If you want a friend get a dog. If you want loyalty get a dog. If you want a chick magnet get a dog. Just get a dog.

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October 17, 2016

10 reasons why you should adopt a dog:

  1. Companionship.
  2. Attracts women when you are walking your dog.
  3. Will make you happy interacting with your dog.
  4. Will give you a new activity to work on.
  5. Will give you a strong reason to invite the woman inside. I had a first date with a woman and the only reason she came inside was to see my dog. We fucked.
  6. Everyone loves dogs. Even most psychopaths. That's why they bring out dogs during finals week to relieve stress.
  7. Will motivate you to go on walks outside and explore your nearby area.
  8. Will give you a reason and something to talk about with women.
  9. Will display that you are responsible.
  10. Dogs are awesome, and having a dog in your life will bring you friendship, happiness, and joy.

Adopting a dog is a responsibility that cannot be taken lightly. These are living creatures. They cost money to take care of. They require attention and care. But if you are up to it, I highly recommend you consider adopting a dog. Especially an older one, uglier one, or neglected one. Those are usually the ones that are best behaved and give the most love.

Friendship, loyalty, attention. Dogs have a lot to offer.

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Title If you want a friend get a dog. If you want loyalty get a dog. If you want a chick magnet get a dog. Just get a dog.
Upvotes 956
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Date 17 October 2016 12:19 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]LidlKwark275 points276 points  (56 children) | Copy

Dogs are indeed awesome and I feel blessed for having grown up with labs and goldens. However I wonder how I could raise a dog while being single and working 40h a week.

[–][deleted] 143 points144 points  (37 children) | Copy

Just adopted a puppy. I was not prepared for the amount of work that is needed, but the experience has been a blast! You just have to adjust your lifestyle to taking care of another being.

I'm two months in, and here are some of the personal benefits that I've found:

  1. Having a dog forces you to make a schedule and stick with it. No more snoozing my alarm because I want to sleep in.
  2. Having a dog forces you to go outside and socialize. Dog parks are perfect for practicing day game.
  3. Having a dog makes you a better man. You have to have frame to properly train a dog.

[–]burzuei120 points121 points  (16 children) | Copy

You just have to adjust your lifestyle to taking care of another being.

its not that simple. Some people cant do it and their dog will have a really shitty life.

[–]bearmanpig445 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy


I have a friend who I used to live with in an apartment for a time and he owned a dog. Except for the occasional trip to the dog park and a 5 minute walk every day to let it shit that dog was in a kennel for 90% of the day. Some people should most definitely not be in charge of animals.

[–]vagbutters32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm in med school, and as much as I'd love a dog, I simply can't afford to have one. My schedule between working out, studying, and working is incredibly tight.

[–]donkey_democrat48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy

Keep a goldfish in a water bottle with you

[–]koolkat18215 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

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[–]burzuei17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

I've seen shit people do to their beloved animals you wouldn't believe. Sometimes they don't even realize that they're doing something wrong.

[–]Mckallidon16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like people who don't realize they're fucking up their kids. They're just that selfish and stupid.

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[–]Valiade25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy

Karma doesn't exist. What does exist is a very social sentient creature that tons of people unknowingly neglect.

Not trying to be a douche, but if you don't have time for a dog, don't get one.

[–]burzuei2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why focus on it?

Because you said some dumb thing about how any other life is better than living in a shelter

[–]InteriorEmotion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A mediocre forever-home is better than being stuck in a shelter.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's hard to adjust your lifestyle, but it's defeatist to assume that your life is unchangeable. I agree that some people cannot own dogs because their life cannot accommodate that. Most people's lives are not set in stone like that. Everyone has the ability to improve their current situation if they choose to.

[–]burzuei36 points37 points  (1 child) | Copy

jesus trp is becoming a life coaching place. All I am saying is that OWNING A DOG REQUIRES LOTS OF YOUR TIME SO BEFORE ADOPTING ONE PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU WILL HAVE IT so your dog wont end up in animal shelter or just be dumped in some forest or some shit. I sometimes work (as a volunteer) with animals like this and I've just heard this story way too often: "oh I thought I'll manage but it turns out I need to drop this puppy at your place guys"

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Come on, man, just adopt a dog. /s

[–]LidlKwark33 points34 points  (14 children) | Copy

I agree with everything you said. But I would not want to leave my dog alone in the house from 8 in the morning till 5 in the afternoon. How does your schedule look like?

[–]FrgElder 19 points19 points [recovered] | Copy

Some solutions to this are:

1) Get two dogs instead of one.

  • The incremental effort and cost increase from one dog to two really isn't that noticeable (unless you're talking large dogs that eat a lot). The dogs will become best friends and keep each other from getting separation anxiety. You'll still have to let them out at lunch or something, 8 hours without a bathroom break is too much.

2) Dog walker

  • Relatively cheap and will get them out of the house for a bit.

3) Doggy daycare

  • Basically they play with a ton of other dogs for a few hours. This is a relatively new fad but it's catching on for a reason, dogs fucking love it.

[–]newpua_bie 17 points17 points [recovered] | Copy

8 hours without a bathroom break is too much.

I'm not sure what's the basis of this. I've lived with dogs for almost 20 years and for at least the last 10 years the dogs were without bathroom breaks for 8 hours at a time, since going home for lunch wasn't a possibility for my parents (and later myself). Dogs can't talk so I don't know how comfortable they were, but there were never any accidents. They go without breaks for 8 hours every night anyways, and mostly sleep during the day, so I don't think there is any physical issues as long as they are trained to do so.

[–]ChrisBenRoy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

My dog will sleep through the night, and as long as I want to sleep in and hold it the entire time. I take him out when I get up, but I never have him wake me up needing to go out. And he's only 3.

[–]gigitygigitygoo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed with all. The day care near me varies in cost but is about $18-30 a day. Discounts are usually given for multiple dogs.

[–]OneInAZillion2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. Having 2 dogs is infinitely better than one due to not only the stress it takes off me to ease their boredom all the time, but also because they always have a play partner to match their energy the way they need it.

Furthermore, a dog having another dog friend 24/7 makes them way happier overall. I've had one dog, and I've had 2, and I'd take 2 every single time, both for my sake and the dogs'.

[–]Apexk910 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

2 dogs can create litter mate syndrome and that's not fun to fix.

I don't trust anyone else to touch my dog let alone walk or take care of it.

I've seen doggy daycare create pshycological problems in dogs.

Leave your dog at home 8 hours they will be fine if they are a medium to large breed.

[–]rathyAro0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

2 dogs can create litter mate syndrome and that's not fun to fix.

I read that this is an issue for siblings. Even if you feel it isn't you can get at least 1 non-puppy.

[–]Frdl9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree with everything you said. But I would not want to leave my dog alone in the house from 8 in the morning till 5 in the afternoon. How does your schedule look like?

Get a dog walker. Get an actual good dog walker that will take them out for a solid 1 to 2 hours. Dog might love the dog walker more than they love you, but you won't have to worry at all about leaving them alone all day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And they are cheap...well worth it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I work full time and I'm getting an MBA from one of the top universities in the US. Needless to say, I'm busy.

The biggest thing I've done over the past three years to improve my life is to eliminate my commute. I had an hour and a half commute one way when I was living in Chicago, so I made the decision when I moved to my current city that I would always pay more to not have a commute. Everyone should do this for their own sanity. The only thing you cant get more of in this life is time.

I wake up two hours before work to get ready, workout and spend time with the dog. I also take lunch and dinner at home with the dog. I have class Monday and Wednesday evenings, but I make sure to take my dog to the dog park on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

I have given up some things. I don't have time anymore for video games or TV. That wasn't that hard. The hardest thing is being more mindful of my time. I schedule everything and plan in advance. I can be spontaneous when I need to be, but sometimes it's a calculated risk on whether or not my dog will have an accident in the house because I've neglected her too much that day.

[–]burzuei3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can always get some older (like 3-4+ years older) dog and he won't really mind that you're gone from 8 to 5. It's not really that much of a problem when it comes to owning a dog, but before getting one consider these things:

Every single day from monday to friday you will have to walk him before going to work. Weather doesn't matter. Same thing when you come home: one of the first things you will do is you'll be walking your dog. Wanna grab a beer with the boys straight after work? You can't. Plate is waiting for you? You need to drive home first to walk your dog. Every single day for the rest of your dog's life you need to remember that he needs to be walked.

Holidays also suck. Forget about any spontaneous trips and stuff like that - everything needs to be pre-planned so that you can either go somewhere with your four legged buddy or have a place for him to stay (and it's a dog, so giving him for two weeks away to some random people he never met before seems for him like being sent down to Auschwitz).

And remember. This is really big decision in your life. You decide to take a living creature who will love you unconditionally (unless you will really fuck this up) and defend you with its own life if needed. Your dog will be with you for 10+ years. When it gets older you will need to adapt. When it will get sick you will need to adapt. When you will want to change your life in some big way you will always have to make sure your dog will be ok with it (moving out, taking another job, etc.)

If you still want to get one I'd recommend getting a mixed breed (I believe they're called mutts in english?) - I have 30+ years of experience with dogs and mutts seem to be way less problematic than legit dog breeds when it comes to health issues.

[–]BreakerMark785 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I leave both of my dogs in their crates from 8-5 on weekdays, and having the companionship helps them. But before that, I would leave the dog in a crate with a food puzzle, with kibble + a calming treat.

As soon as I get home, take them out to pee/poop then let them run around the yard for awhile.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I use food puzzles and frozen Kongs. Helps a ton for your dogs boredom.

[–]Apexk92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why? Get a large breed dog. When I worked my gsd at the time would just chill for the 9 hours I was gone. They sleep most of that time anyway I mean dogs sleep 18 hours a day.

[–]BreakerMark785 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Working with a dog trainer for my aggressive dog, frame is the most important tool. Dogs look at body language and feel your energy way more than they listen to the actual command.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

My dog is four months old. She doesn't nip or jump on me anymore because that isn't how she gets me to show her affection. I don't pet her unless she has four paws on the floor. It's kind of funny to watch now, but she'll walk up to me a sit down expecting me to pet her. Super cute, and I reward that behavior 100% of the time.

[–]BreakerMark782 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Archer is a little different, I have trained him to not jump, get on the couch or bed, and to not harass me for pets. He has a bunch of territory aggression of the house however, to the point where we can't have people over because if he got out there is no doubt he'd bite someone.

This sort of thing never goes away, but with the trainer we can manage it to some degree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Best of luck with the aggression!

[–]The_Red_Lantern12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Consider getting an older dog. I adopted an older beagle and he was more than happy to sleep the day away while I was at work.

[–]nikdahl6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

It sure makes things more difficult. I can't hit up happy hour after work with my mates because I have to go home and feed my dog. I can't take off on a whim for a weekend, because I have to secure a dog sitter. I have to clean my house much more frequently because there is dog hair (and smell) all over. That tinder slut finally wants to come over? Shit. Well, I guess I will spend the next 30 minutes sweeping and vacuuming instead of manscaping.

Now, if you have a neighbor or someone you trust that can easily to take care of it while you are out, that can make your life much easier.

As it is, I'm not sure the advantages of a dog outweigh the disadvantages for a single male.

[–]InteriorEmotion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some breeds don't shed much.

[–]moviemaker101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I work 8-(6-8) every day but Sunday and love dogs too much to let them be alone for that long

[–]Apexk91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just get a Large Breed Dog by 4 months he should be able to hold it 8 hours. The Dog should be sleeping when you're gone so before you leave give him a good sniffing walk sniffing will tire a dog faster then you running with them which you shouldnt do as its bad for their bones as growth plates close.

Some idiots will tell you they cant hold it that long but they're idiots because dogs supress the need to piss when asleep which is why a puppy can sleep through the night at 11 weeks.

Humans baby their Dogs too much not realizing they are capable of surviving by themselves we're just making life easy for em.

Bare minimum you would need to do to have a dog is.

30 mins a day of training broken up into 5 and 10 min sessions reward is always play layered with food.

30-45 min sniff walk before you leave for work 15 mins play.

then you can go to work come home take the dog out for a piss you train calmness in the house so the dog will chill. I give mine a bone to also let him chew. Real Raw bone. Nature made dogs to eat bones.

Then play with the dog for another 30-45 mins.

You can do Dog Parks I personally dont recommend them. They are great until your Dog gets attacked.

And your Dog will be chill.

If anyone needs Dog training advice PM me.

[–]InteriorEmotion1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Greyhounds are a good choice. They spend most of their time lounging around anyway. A short walk in the morning and at night will be enough exercise for them. They do get separation anxiety if they're left alone too long, but you can prevent that by adopting 2 of them. Also they have short coats and don't shed much.

[–]ratleaf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless you can have the dog with you to work and get a super old one that doesn't need much mental and physical stimulation then no.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly, I work 50 hrs a week. Leave at 630 am return at 6 pm. No way I'm gonna leave a dog in a pin that long. Too bad I can't bring one to work...

[–]Tough_Luv0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I raise a dog, work two jobs, go to school, cook all my meals, lift every day sometimes twice.

Just don't be lazy and work hard.

[–]LidlKwark0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Good for you bro. I wasn't hinting at being lazy though. But hey, grab any excuse you can find to brag about your alpha lifestyle.

[–]Tough_Luv0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're working a 40hour week. 6 hours sleep a night. 18x7 - 40 = 86 hours. You have 86 hours left to spend. You dog requires 10 a week, leaving you 76.

What did I miss?

Now you're lazy AND butthurt.

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (5 children) | Copy

Not this dog thing again. Get a dog, if you want to be anchored to your apartment.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I don't see this post adding anything new to the last time someone posted this opinion.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It doesn't really apply as much to city dwellers like yourself. That's a bad environment for a dog anyway.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

It applies to everybody. Dogs need a home. If it's your home, then you have to be there to take care of it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Outside the city, you can have a big yard for it to play in while you're gone. Obviously you still shouldn't leave it alone for longer than necessary, but it's still leagues better than leaving it inside or in some goddamn crate all day.

[–]sunsetriser 147 points147 points [recovered] | Copy

I love dogs.
There are benefits.
But: There is a financial cost to ownership.
There is more importantly a cost to your freedom.
Wanna go on vacation for a week? Better find a dog sitter. Good luck. Or bring your dog with you? Sure! Good luck. Having a great night out and want to go sleep w a girl when she invites you to her place? Well, add another 8 hours of your dog being pent up in a cage in your kitchen or just otherwise isolated in some less than ideal scenario.

Don't get a dog unless you're a realist and you'll be compassionate. Speaking of which, ADOPT one that NEEDS a human to RESCUE it. Don't support dog breeders or furthering the overpopulation problem.

[–]jazerac16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

This. I love both of my dogs more than most people. But they are a pain in the ass at times, specifically on the point of vacation and staying out. Wanna take an extended weekend? Gotta find someone to watch the dogs. Going out of the country for 10 days in December, finding someone to watch them is turning into a nightmare.

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[–]jazerac2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting, never heard of it. Thanks for pointing that service out.

[–]Apexk911 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry I stand by dog breeders who uderstand the breed and it's traits and know the science of breeding.

Now buying a dog off kijiji or Craigslist or some backyard breeder is a no no but a good breeder will save you money on training and vets

But if you want a great dog find a great breeder as half the work will be done.

Adopting a dog will have unknown psychological issues potentially and health issues.

[–]mediamole32 points33 points  (6 children) | Copy

Don't forget about poop, hair throughout the house, vet trips and bills.

I nexted my dogs along with my wife in the divorce and never looked back. YMMV.

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 12 points12 points [recovered] | Copy

Honestly man, the way you are desribing pro/cons of dog ownership resembles the female process of dating a man. Highly utilitarian, focused on getting more in return than you "give". A dog loves you for being you, thats why they are awesome. Who cares if it drops hair. I help my dad out each summer with his hunting dog that fills several grocery bags worth of shedded hair, cause she is a delightful creature.

[–]mediamole6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I absolutely look at getting at least as much as I put into it.

I feel the same way about women, cars, contracts ... pretty much everything in life except my kids and charity. Why else would I do things?

[–]Areu4realm85 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

why should he be ''giving'' to a fucking dog if he doesnt want to?

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[–]koolkat182-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Check out some hypoallergenic breeds if fur bothers you

[–]mercnet10 points11 points  (10 children) | Copy

A great alternative is getting a cat if you are not ready for a dog for those exact reasons. They require more work to build a bond but I have yet to meet a girl that doesn't like a cat unless allergic.

You can leave them alone for a week as long as they have plenty of water, feeder, and large size or automatic litter box.

[–]FrgElder 21 points21 points [recovered] | Copy

The only benefits of getting a cat over a dog is like you said, they are more autonomous.

I find the bond they create with humans is never that great, and girls think a guy that lives alone with cats is a weirdo. So be warned.

[–]Nikelu10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Never had a girl telling me that . They think it is super cute and it's a Great excuse to pull them in your house to see it

[–]Areu4realm8-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy


when will you people learn?

[–]Areu4realm8-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

true. my sister once said that men who have pets look needy.

[–]elucubra2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Cats and french bulldogs? Yeah. Needy betas.

Now if you walk a Newfie or a Tamaskan...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Got an Irish Wolfhound recently. Wonderful dogs.

[–]RenaissanceMan790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Would love to get a Northern Inuit but so much money!

[–]oliver512930 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


These guys are surprisingly lazy. They do their excercise in bursts.

[–]elucubra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They are great, but can be skitterish with strangers, not great as a wingman.

[–]putinbusch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why the fuck do you yanks put the dog in a cage? If you did that here the RSPCA would take it off you.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dog is responsibility though. If you decide to get a dog for the perks of the dog and can't deliver on the needs of a dog, don't get a dog.

[–]neopet22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

I got an awesome dog 5 years ago when I was in my early twenties. He's been a great addition to my life, and I agree with the points made by OP, but I can't stress enough the huge jump responsibility when you get a puppy.

The dog has to be your new passion for about a year if you want it to be well behaved. You will miss out on employment opportunities and fun trips because of the dog. You will get frustrated with the dog, and you will likely resent it at times. But if you have the discipline to handle the it, it's incredibly rewarding to be a dog owner.

[–]Stuck_in_a_coil6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got my dog when he was 8 days old (his mother was hit by a car). He just turned 5 years old last week. Its been work, but rescuing him was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Rewarding is a good word for our relationship.

[–]Areu4realm84 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

missing out on employement and trips looks a very bad idea to me. considering a dog more rewarding than these looks wrong to me, like you are being controlled by your emotions.

[–]neopet1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely, I got lucky because my mother is retired and loves having him around when I need to take off.

Those first couple years though I had a serious LTR and was living the blue pill dream so trips and work opportunities weren't an option anyways.

[–]Nikelu99 points100 points  (5 children) | Copy

No Fuck your suggestions . Dogs need extremely high maintenance and a lot of your time. I love pets and I have a cat myself but I would never suggest it to anyone . You want restrictions in your life? Then go for it. Wanna go on a trip ? Pay dog hotels that cost half your monthly income . Wanna over sleep ? Well your dog is gonna shit in your apartment then. Pets are not designed for the utopian male that TRP idealises. Not saying everyone who has a dog is beta. But you probably aren't millionaires yet and you haven't made it yet (neither did I but I'm 20) so you need all your attention focussed on yourself. Give some money to stray dog organizations if you love dogs . Could write more but I'm sick . But you have to consider many things before buying smth

[–]Iappreci8thegr8r8m89 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Another option would be to foster dogs. It's temporary and still allows you some freedom. Plus when you are walking your most recent "leased" dog it gives an extra conversational piece that makes you look REALLY good.

[–]Nikelu7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's not a bad idea for people who would like to try out how living with a dog would be. Our orgs here even offer the dogs nutrition if you foster it and you can have it until someone that wants it is found.

[–]Apexk915 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I could sleep for 12 hours and my dog would do the same. You see dogs metabolism slows during sleep and if you train a dog well they are super chill.

This is for large breed dogs as I only own German shepherds.

When I had the flu I would sleep all day and took him out like 3 times for a few minutes and he was fine.

He knew I wasn't well so he was chill.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Obviously you shouldn't get a dog if you live in some shitty apartment.

[–]ntvirtue9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dogs are awesome!

Getting a dog to show women that you are responsible and ready to be taken advantage of in marriage is not the best motivation.

[–]InChargeMan10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you want to have this creature that needs to go to the vet, eat food, shit in your house, sent to a kennel when you travel, making sure you are back at your house to let it out every evening, and eventually dies. Yep, get a dog.

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy

One of the sad downsides of TRP is that it attracts emotionally immature, closed-off guys. Learning to deal with death and the loss of loved ones makes you a better person.

[–]InChargeMan4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sure does. So does being able to have the freedom to do things without hurrying home to let your dog piss.

The good news is that many of the people in your life will die, so you've got that going for you. The +1 probably won't make a difference.

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

So dogs aren't for you. Great. It takes all kinds to make a world. No need to shit all over the concept just because you don't like it. I, for instance, am not one for being a snarky little bitch on the internet, but you don't see me whingeing about how horrible it is and how I'm so totally above that kind of thing. I simply ignore it as one of those little annoyances that constitute the price of life in a civilized society.

[–]InChargeMan7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, FYI I have a dog. I like him, but won't replace him when he is gone. I learned my lesson. The great thing about humans is that we can use written language to impart knowledge, instead of having to learn everything first hand.

I post to help those who might not be considering all points.

[–]svensin10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

picking up shit every day literally

Stinky gross dog hair covers your entire house

Barking, running into shit, being a general jackass

Can't go on vacations without having your dog looked after

Have to spend tons of money on procedures, food, equipment

Some people don't like dogs

I Disagree entirely

[–]Endorsed ContributorObio14 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Agreed. IMHO dogs are kind of like boats. I love it when friends have them. Having one of your own is a pain in the ass.

[–]svensin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And I'd Still rather have a boat, at least it won't die

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

As soon as I get a house with a yard and have extra money for dog sitters on the regular, I might consider it. Until then I'm going to be a big fan of Snoopy, who acts like a cat.

Yeah, I'm not gonna have some mutt prone to barking/annoying my neighbors, smelling up my place, needing walks all the time, and me picking up its shit all the damn time. No. A dog is like a permanent 2 year-old.

It might behoove you to become interested in dogs, though. Excellent plausible deniability when you see a hot chick walking her dog. Game her by giving her dog attention.

[–]vorverk8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Please dont get a dog for this reasons. They are living beings that are completely dependent on you. Getting a dog to get chicks is as low as TRP can go. Please don't go there.

[–]B_Rawb8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I definitely agree with your post, but dogs are a bit of a time sink. Especially when you're eating clean and being fit. I currently have two cats which take exponentially less effort to maintain than a dog from what I've been reading.

Although dogs are great, they're not for everyone. I don't have enough emotional currency to handle something that needs my attention all the time. My cats only fiend for my attention for about an hour so, the other times they are there when I'm interested in giving them attention.

It seems a lot of dog people women and men alike want something dependent on them rather than a companion.

[–]Areu4realm87 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

No thanks. You have to wash them, take care of them, feed them, take them for a walk, take them to the vet etc Im alredy too busy trying to improve my life, i would rather use my free time relaxing.

[–]1mojo_juju6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dog =

REDUCES freedom

INCREASES obligations

I like dogs a ton. I just don't want to possess anything I must take care of, or which I cannot easily travel with. i.e. if i want to get on a jet for 3 month backpacking trip in Europe tomorrow, I can't do that if I have a dog.

[–]chris_sydney18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

But no chuauas. Nobody likes those rats.

[–]joshsoowong1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Had 3. They were really mean.

[–]bigcitytruth14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

A dog is like having a kid. Say goodbye to spontaneity.

Be a man. Learn to embrace occasional solitude.

[–]GalacticSuperDrone4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I let my last LTR keep our dogs when I bailed, heres why:

Want to spend the night out? Can't, gotta feed and let the dogs out.

Want to go out of town? Gotta find someone willing to watch the dogs or pay a shit ton of money to put them up in a doggy motel.

Work 40+ hours a week? Enjoy your dog shitting/pissing in your house or tearing things up constantly.

Not to mention vet bills, and the hours and hours you'll spend training them.

[–]DillonDockery3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get a dog if you want a dog, but don't get a dog because you hope it will attract women. You have that as the no. 2 reason on this post. Don't let strange women you have never met dictate what you do with your life. You don't need a dog to attract women.

[–]MeatCurtainRod4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dogs make better friends/companions than girls anyways. In fact, any dude who thinks a girl can be their best friend is an utter fuckup of a boy.

[–]MemeRiffler10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'll adopt one when I'll be able to offer him/her a good life. That means a house with a garden, not an appartment. Dogs really are the best friends everyone needs

[–]Areu4realm8-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

dogs are not your friends, they just act like that becuse their survival depends on it.

[–]TheUiopas 16 points16 points [recovered] | Copy


I wouldn't call it companionship if the animal can't even understand what you're saying. Responding to commands is not the same as a conversation.

A new activity to work on

As if I needed one! I already have too little time to do everything I'd like.

It costs money to mantain a dog in health, plus they dirt up your house with their paws, plus they might occasionally piss/shit on your floor.

Oh, actually you didn't mention it. My bad.

No thanks, I'd rather not have a dog.

[–]Askada3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't call it companionship if the animal can't even understand what you're saying

Well, while I agree with you on the mantainance cost in time and money, I don't really agree on this one.

It's not a fucking rabbit or turtle we are talking about here.

Dogs will read the shit out of you and will love you more than any woman ever will. They are called best companion for a good reason.

[–]Apexk91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dogs wondering understand what you're saying but they will know what you're feeling by reading your body language.

A dog will know when you're sick.

[–]NeckbeardVirgin691 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I have a dog (not by my own choice) and I hate having a dog. It's well-behaved and everything. I just don't see the point of its existence.

[–]1DnicF0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm with you on this. Animals in my personal opinion are meant to be in the wild. I don't need a canine with Stockholm-syndrome to love myself. Frankie Boyle says it best here.

[–]Apexk90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You never had a real dog eh?

[–]elucubra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dogs have been Man's (man, not human, not woman) companion for millenia. They are invaluable in hunting, defense, herding, trailing, war, and many other endeavours. They also love their humans, and in a normal order of things are corresponded, each knowing it's place.

Dogs don't have any Stockholm-syndrome, and who ever thought that up is an ignorant idiot, full of gas. Dogs and men are simbyotic, and have been for aeons, in all cultures. Only recently has the travesty dog-races trend started, as most dog races, even poodles, are of working dog origin.

[–]SunnyHillside2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you aren't ready to commit. Look into fostering. Chicks will swoon.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

plus you get that chedda from the state

[–]hidden_but_true0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is there such a thing as fostering dogs? Or do you mean kids?

[–]SunnyHillside0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There's such a thing. I've been doing it for almost 7 years. Gives me the flexibility to have a dog and travel. It's not for everyone but I love it!

[–]1RXRob5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

So I want a dog, but I'm not home enough to give it a fair life with full time work, wrestling, and scouting.

My nearby friend is in a similar position. So we're now exploring the possibility of dog sharing. Getting a dog that we have joint responsibility to and splitting vets bills.

Has anybody here tried a similar setup?

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 5 points5 points [recovered] | Copy

Why not get a cat? Only cats that have been poorly socialized as kittens are aloof jerks. There are plenty of cats out there who are interested and involved in you, but, being cats, require less maintenance than a dog (though it's still best to play with them every day for 20 minutes or so).

Going away for a day or two? Put out a few more litter boxes and a big bowl of dry kibble and a water fountain, they'll be fine.

And I'm not ragging on dogs, either. Dogs are great if you know what you're getting into and are willing to deal with it.

[–]1RXRob2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I've grown up with cats and dogs so they're both options.

I guess a cat would be more practical

[–]burzuei3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've seen arrangements like this work. But you and your buddy must be really close and on the same page to pull this off.

[–]Apexk96 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy


Eventually one of you will no longer want to share then what?

Plus that's confusing for a dog and the bond will be off kilter

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Crazy cat lady = emotionally dependant dog guy.

Men, be men. Don't invest emotionally in an animal. That's what children and women (and millennials) do.

[–]Areu4realm84 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

this. this thread is pure cringe. these men learned only how to act with women, they didnt learn the psychology behind the redpill. never invest happiness in anything outside of you.

[–]hidden_but_true2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The main point is: dog>girlfriend

Dogs are much better, in every way: maintenance, love and affection, loyalty.

Now, maybe nothing>dog. Different question.

[–]torodinson-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man with dog =/= emotionally dependent dog guy. Can be great for learning frame, and non verbally conveying confidence. Also can't be alpha without a pack.

[–]TheStumblingWolf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree - dogs are awesome. I choose not to get a dog until I go on pension though. They're social creatures and I'd feel bad for having a dog stay home alone for half a day while I'm at work.

[–]weirdfish422 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Love dogs, no way I could have one. Work hours, random 3 day weekends out of town, etc. The cat, on the other hand, provides many, though not all, the same benefits without the hassle.

[–]Garconanokin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Solid post, there are a lot of great reasons to get a dog but the drawbacks always make it a hard no for me. What what I love? A dog share: I could split the expense and burden of the dog with other guys, and have all of the benefits that come with it: walking him in areas where attractive girls hang out, etc.

Obviously this is crazy, but does this resonate with anybody else? Who wants in on DogShare?

[–]knifpearty2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would love to have a dog but can’t see myself picking up dog shit. :\

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What if you don't like dogs?

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What about the fact that I don't like dogs, and don't want to own one?

I mean, it's a little strong to say I "don't like" dogs... I just don't like having dogs in or around my house.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dogs are needy and annoying. How dumb do you have to be to believe that everyone just loves dogs? I don't want something to love me, or help me attract women. When I'm home I want to be left the fuck alone.

[–]brettfromtibet0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

NOT everyone love dogs! But the knckleheads who fall in love with them only notice the people who coo "Ohhhhhh.. what a cute dog!" and they begin to think they are doing the world a favor by bringing the damn dog everywhere.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Typical dog person wrapped up in their own world.

[–]kailibur4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

My dog just got terminal cancer and is expected to pass sometime this week. What you didn't include is just how hard it fucking hits you when you realize they'll be gone forever soon. Still, always get a dog.

[–]RenaissanceMan790 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My dog of 12 years (he was 14) passed a couple months ago, and I agree. I still miss him, but I'm now getting to the point were I do enjoy the lack of responsibility. I'm taking a planned break from having a dog since I have little free time right now and live in a small apartment. But as soon as I move to a bigger place I will be getting another dog. As I've told many friends when the complain about women, "If you want unconditional love, get a dog."

[–]kailibur0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm losing my childhood pet, so I don't know really what life is without him. It'll be a strange few months. I can't get one till I'm out of college. Not fair to me or the dog with all my other time commitments.

[–]cantFindValidNam1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attracts women when you are walking your dog.

I ve picked up so many chicks this summer walking my sis's cute yorkie. Chicks would go crazy about him and I'd approach with something like "can I give it to you as a gift?" Then follow up with "but you have to take me with him" they usually laugh or smile and I end up with a number.

[–]Hunter2isit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm, had a pic of me with my dogs on my tinder profile (others were professionally shot non-headshots) was messaged ~4x a day.

Also when divorce was getting shitty, my dogs were there. Until she took them

[–]whats_the_deal221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Went to the park with my pup yesterday. The number of wealthy milfs who smiled at me while they walked behind their husbands was staggering.

[–]Rumzdizzle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I saw a guy walking a dog with wheels for its back legs due to some neuro disorder... man oh man did that get the attention of every person that he walked by. Almost too much attention from the ladies.

[–]woefulwank1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sure, make sure you have plenty of money beforehand however.

[–]Andrian-TQM1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dogs aren't loyal by nature. You can only train them to be loyal. If you train your dog to be nice to everyone it will stay loyal to the person who provides food and shelter. That's not a bad thing, but don't confuse loyalty with neediness.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don't know much about dog behavior. Dogs are pack animals by nature and show loyalty to the pack and the pack leader.

[–]ScruffyPete1011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As soon as I sort my life out enough for the responsibility I am getting a dog.

[–]brettfromtibet1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dogs are for betas, chicks & narcissists who can't relate to people. Better to spend all that time and energy on real human friendships and relationships - far more fulfilling.

[–]RenaissanceMan79-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

humans will let you down, a well trained dog will not

[–]supremelummox1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

DOG, the new product that solves it all!

[–]thedaynos1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love dogs but I love vacations more than dogs.

[–]bob19816661 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Everything in this post is accurate, in my experience. I would just add the caveat that you need to really be committed if you want a puppy, The first few months are intense. Since we are talking single guys here and ways to enrich out lives, I would think about getting an older dog first. So many good dog bros need a home and are already house ready.

[–]Limekill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


Good idea.

Puppys bite furniture too.

[–]Native_of_Tatooine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. Am sociopath. Love dog.

[–]Momo_dollar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I actually read this thinking it was going to be satire or an analogy. Not saying there's anything wrong with dogs or owning one, but fuck me

[–]90blacktsiawd0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy

If you've decided to adopt a dog go to your local kill shelter and attempt to find one there first. Not only do you get an awesome new friend but you also save the life of a dog that would more than likely get put down.

[–]Apexk9-4 points-3 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'd never recommend a shelter dog too much unknowns

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah, right, whatever. I'm more familiar with cats, but if you think breeders or pet shops or ANY source for animals offers fewer unknowns than a shelter, you're a gullible rube.

Probably the best source for an animal as far as reducing unknowns is a rescue organization. They usually pull from shelters, so you're indirectly getting animals out of the shelter that way anyhow.

[–]Apexk93 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

No a reputable breeder would give you more insight.

A reputable breeder can tell you exactly what traits they were going for.

As breeding is taking a dog's who have opposite strength and weaknesses to ballance or take dogs with similar traits to increase.

If I want an attack dog. I breed the 2 highest drive highest aggression highest focus highest biddability dogs and bam I have a working dog.

I want a pet tod I breed a dog whose confident calm receptive of strangers ta da perfect companion dog. (If it'd a German Shepherd I may breed a dog who has low herding instincts to stop ankle biting...etc)

As a breeder I would also test their confidence or drive so I can tell you what to expect.

If you want a calm chill house dog I won't give you the high drive pup from the litter you won't be able to handle It.

It's a science.

It's a shame so many people don't understand what good breeding is because there are so many backyard breeders who want a quick buck.

[–]90blacktsiawd0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Then youre a fool. If you think going to your average breeder or pet store will allow you to know so much about the pup you adopt then you need to look into things more. So many of those places lie their asses off about the quality of puppy and it's parents to make things look good.

I had months to get to know my shelter dog before I was able to finally bring her home. That's plenty of time to learn what kind of dog you're adopting. Not to mention that plenty of those dogs adopted from pet stores or breeders end up in shelters anyways.

[–]Apexk91 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol I get my dogs from competitive breeders. And I know dogs so I can tell when a breeder is garbage. I'm talking good breeders that have a deep understanding of their breed.

So all I have to do is go and see their dogs compete.

You know in Germany you can't breed a German Shepherd unless they are titled? Good luck getting an ipo 1 on a dog if you're a garbage breeder with garbage dogs. So yeah if your dog's parents weren't titled (which is tuff) and the female was bred anytime before age 2. I would already disqualify you as a breeder.

Also pet stores are a no no no same with average breeders. Find the best breeders of the breed you like.

More suitable temperaments for your needs better health. So many benefits. I'd only adopt if you can't raise a puppy.

You see a shelter dog. You don't know if they have a solid temperament. You don't know the foundation of the dog. (Dogs revert to foundation in times of stress or pressure) you don't know triggers.

Let me tell you a story. A women adopted a dog great dog no problems until one day she lite a candle dog freaked out. Why? Because his previous owner set him on fire and now fire triggers him hard.

Or how about the dog that was abused by a boy wearing a red sweater. Then when a kid with a red sweater runs at the dog well it doesn't end well.

Both are anecdotal personal experiences (first one found out about fire after the sweater one was after trying to find the trigger) but would you ever figure those triggers out by seeing the dog for months in a shelter?

[–]90blacktsiawd0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There are plenty of pure bred, great dogs that end up in the pound because the shit head that adopted them either didn't realize the work required or didn't make sure they didn't get out of the yard off lease. Shelter dog does not mean guaranteed problems. And 3+ months is more time than you'd get learning about any purebred puppy you adopt. Just because the parents are one way doesn't mean the puppies will be too. It's just a guideline for what the may be like.

[–]Apexk9-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually genetics say other wise.

A dog with a solid temperament and high confidence will be calmer and more forgiving of mistakes a person can do.

And it's not about pure breed it's a out how they were bred. Any idiot can take two dogs of the same breed and breed them.

A real breeder breeds traits to balance out a dog's strengths and weaknesses to create something stable.

A dog whose fearful is more likely to be reactive vs a confident dog...etc

[–]Vasallo7G1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

those fuckers need to run DAILY, also just like a girl if they do not see you as their leader you are their bitch

[–]ObnoxiousLittleCunt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's also a great meal.

If you're hungry, get a dog.

[–]NiceTryDisaster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cant believe this peice of shit post has 300+ upvotes. Get a dog only if you want to get anchored to your house, spend a shitload of money, make life miserable for the animal and then get hit with misery yourself every time he falls ill or get hit with epic level of sadness, like you've never experienced before, when he dies after 10 years or so.

Was owner of two cats. Loved them both more than I love my family members. One died earlier this year. Second one is doing well but sadly its a burden too. Anyone reading this, DO NOT GET A PET unless you're filthy rich.

[–]gmcclintock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dogs are awesome, if you have time to properly care for them. Fun story, when I was a kid I had a dog growing up. My dad took a job in europe for a year and we had to leave the dog in the United states, in a kennel. The dog died while we were gone because of loneliness. If you cant properly care for it, dont buy one. Numbers 2, 5, and 8 are irrelevant in your list, if your considering getting a pet to attract the opposite sex, or use them as an ice breaker, dont. Remember, a dog is a living, breathing, thing that you are responsible for. If you cant figure out how to have a conversation with a woman without using a prop to break the ice, remember that prop will eat the walls in your house, and shit on your life the instant you dont have enough time to properly care for it. If the only reason you want to get a dog is to get some trim, save your money and take a trip to Thailand.

[–]Apexk90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't adobe buy a puppy it'll teach you to hold frame and be responsible.

Dogs are men's best friend.

[–]Disaster5323850 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I want to get a dog, but I work full time and don't want to leave it home alone all day.

[–]Iappreci8thegr8r8m80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Another option would be to Foster a dog or two. Kind of like leasing a dog and gives an additional talking point when you get stopped by a girl to talk and pet it. When the dog gets adopted you can take your time and travel or whatever then take on another when you feel like it.

Downside is you don't know what kind of problems you are inheriting with each foster dog and you may have some terrible dogs.

[–]orezavi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

German Shepard or Doberman.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I travel too much. I can't own a dog :(

[–]babybelly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're hungry get a hotdog

[–]TedTheAtheist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or a Bengal. They are larger cats which act like dogs.

[–]joshsoowong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Especially an older one, uglier one, or neglected one. Those are usually the ones that are best behaved and give the most love.

Really? How does this oppose adoption a puppy? I always thought it is best to adopt a puppy and that it will be easier to train and actually grow up with. Are older, ugly, and neglected dogs really good to adopt?

[–]Tmnsquirtle470 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a cat person, but the life benefits of having a dog really appeal to me honestly. I'm the kind of person that absolutely hates exercise, so I have to build it into my schedule. Dog fixes that. Also, I'd generally stay inside on my free days. Dog fixes that too. However, I really can't stand the all the slobber and washing involved. Any advice as far as that goes? Are there "cleaner" breeds?

[–]gr33nade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can add networking there, if you live in a good area you can make friends with successful people while walking your dog, I did.

[–]teeelo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

BOYS hit the SPCA or pound!

Mutts aren't inbred like the expensive dogs!

See here for more: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aCv10_WvGxo

[–]yendorion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The expensive dogs are the one's not inbred, those sold as expensive dogs usually tend to be unfortunately. Just spent an arm & a leg on my second because of her pedigree/bloodline quality.

P.S . OP is absolutely right but they require absolute dedication if not, you're a shithead for getting one.

[–]Moonshineraider0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hear! Hear! I've grown quite sympathetic to the phrase, "The more I deal with people, the more I like my dog."

[–]Temprament0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Or up your meta-game and walk your cat!

[–]alclarkey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don't walk cats. They walk you.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

love dogs but I ain't got time for that shit. besides the fact that it gets over 100 degrees for 6 months out of the year here, I can come up with a ton of other reasons why it's not worth your time and will be miserable for your dog as well.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't have time for a dog. I work at least 50 hours per week, workout, have a girlfriend, and some friends. Plus there are some other things I'd rather do with what little free time I have. Like watch netflix, read comics, play video games.

Though dogs are fucking awesome. I love them. Just not enough to adopt one and do just by it.

[–]disposable_me_00010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

sigh I wish I didn't live in a tiny apartment and work 10 hours a day. Seems cruel to keep a social animal isloated that long everyday. There should be some sort of dog sharing app where you can share a dog among friends.

[–]1Original_Dankster0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Big time investment. Despite the advantages, I can't afford the time to properly attend to a dog.

[–]Azuresk-BINGE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Unless youre some idiot who doesnt have the dedication to take care of one. And no, thay doesnt mean putting food in the bowl and letting it out every night. Be ready to properly take care of it. If youre not going to, for gods sake, save that poor amazing animal some dispair and dont get a dog

[–]DongleNocker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

After Bill Clinton's impeachment he got Buddy (RIP), probably for many of these reasons listed here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This post makes me miss my dog..

Rip dottie

[–]fadiusmadius0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

According to one study, a good looking man doing street approaches with a dog tripled his success rate from 9% without a dog to 28%. Success being: girl gives phone number.

Discussion: The dependent variable in this experiment was the number of participants who agreed to thecourtship request. The results showed that 28.3% (34/120) of the women approached com-plied with the request when the confederate was with the dog, compared with 9.2% (11/120)of women when the confederate was not with the dog. This difference is significant (²(1)=14.47, n= 240, p< 0.001; r= 0.25)

Participants:The participants were 240 young women (ranging in age from approximately 18–25 years) chosen at random while walking alone in a pedestrian zone in the same city wherethe two first experiments were conducted. In this experiment, a 20-year-old, male confederate was used. He was selected by a groupof three women, on the basis of a high physical attractiveness score, from a group of three malevolunteers. An attractive man was used because pre-test evaluation showed that it was gen-erally difficult to obtain phone numbers from young women in the street. This avoided creat-ing conditions where the ceiling effect of compliance was low. The confederate wore the samestyle of clothing as in experiments 1 and 3.The same dog that was used in the previous studies was used.Procedure: The experiment was carried out on sunny days in July 2007. In this experiment,the participants were selected following a random assignment in which the confederate wasinstructed to approach the first young woman in the relevant age group (18 to 25 years) whowas walking alone in the pedestrian zone where the experiment was being carried out. As inthe previous experiments, when soliciting the young women the confederate kept his dog ona lead in the experimental condition, whereas he was not accompanied by his dog in the no-dog control condition. The same verbal solicitation was made by the confederate in both thecontrol and the experimental conditions: “Hello. My name’s Antoine. I just want to say that I think you’re really pretty. I haveto go to work this afternoon, but I was wondering if you would give me yourphone number. I’ll phone you later and we can have a drink together someplace.” The confederate, who owned a dog, but not the dog used in this experiment, was trainedbefore beginning the experiment. He was instructed to approach 10 participants, accompa-nied or not by the dog, and his conversation was recorded by a digital recorder (Roland EdirolR1), as in experiment 1. Five judges (2 males, 22 years old and 3 females, 20–22 years old)listened to the recordings and were instructed to evaluate if the confederate was accompa-nied by a dog or not when soliciting the pedestrian. It was found that the discriminatory ca-pabilities of the judges were not statistically different to what would be expected by chance. In the experimental situation, after making his request, the confederate was instructed towait 10 seconds and to gaze and smile at the participant. If the participant accepted the con-federate’s solicitation, the confederate debriefed her about the study.

[–]thetenman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wrote a guide for dog park game a couple years ago in the old trpgame subreddit. Having a dog is great to meet chicks, I would highly recommend it.

[–]greatslyfer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

ITT people who overblow the downsides of having a dog.

You feed em twice a day, near the time you have your meals so you're not really using additional time.
And you walk the dog for half to a full hour onceor twice a day according to your needs/schedule.

Bam that's it.

[–]TheFirsh0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I shall add that they do shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd love to but it will die before me.

[–]Lsegundo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

...had a first date with a woman and the only reason she came inside was to see my dog. We fucked.

minor clarification: The dog was the plausible excuse she used to prevent herself from being a slut that was coming inside to fuck. She already knew you would end up in bed unless you did something dumb when you got inside.

[–]nimblenightnavigator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Look, no bullshit. I want a dog so fucking bad. But I'm about to head into my graduate program and followed by (hopefully) Med school. Is it possible to get a dog. I did think something along the lines of any life outside of a shelter is better than that hell hole but I don't want to be cruel to an animal. Any of you with taxing, busy, high profile hectic lives (Doctors, lawyers, bankers, entrepreneurs, etc.) have dogs? How do you manage? There is nothing I want more than to have true companionship and loyalty. (I would love a German Shepherd but know its difficult to leave them alone for 8-10 hours a day.) Any and all advice would be much appreciated.

[–]1earlpfeiffer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have been surprised in the last few years how many girls I have met that don't seem that into dogs. It used to be a given but now I hear a lot about allergies or, and since my dogs are plus 200 lbs., how frightened they are of them. I can work with that. But the whole allergy thing is a red flag to me of high maintenance, snowflake likelihood.

[–]deepthinker3140 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

1 reason not to get a dog: Allergies

[–]1Soarinc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What's the best dog capable of handling boredom? (I kinda feel sad if i have to leave a dog indoors alone for 10 hours daily -- I want the most DGAF dog possible)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pets cost money and time. If you don't have a lot of money, and you want to focus on making as much money as possible, you are better off not getting pets, but maybe get plants to bring more life into your house. I'm happy with my pets, but they're guinea pigs and I take care of them the correct way based on studies, which is a lot of work, and guinea pig owners are called "cavy slaves" online for good reason; but these count as exotic animals, and this is good experience for me to know what its like to do lots of research and put in more work than with a cat or dog, because someday if I have the money and the property I want to get a couple badgers. If that day comes I will have to be prepared to mitigate and correct indoor and outdoor property damage from the organic branch of my security system. =P

[–]Cas82280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can definitely confirm, I would however make sure you find an intelligent breed (they are more work) but the camaraderie you will get out them is huuuuuuge.

She literally speaks English I swear to god. Have gotten laid at leasat 20-30 times walking her down the beach in Santa Monica and she truly is my best friend.

When I am watching football or working emails on my couch, my little (not so little) furry 75 lb best friend curls up next to me and puts her head on my lap. She is amazing, I would never let her go and kill anyone whom tried to harm her.

She is amazing, if you are lonely, get a dog, totally agree with OP.

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She is an American Akita

[–]theGuyRightNextToYou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

please don't get a dog to fill the void in your life

[–]NeoreactionSafe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy


Men love women, women love children, children love puppies


Successful dog ownership where you establish a tight bond to the dog and train it well becomes the pattern of your ability to relate well with women.


  • Your dogs should be well trained and happy as you love them.

  • Your women should be well trained and happy as you love them.


Dogs take effort, women take effort.


[–]Consilio_et_Animis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

...and puppies love everyone.

Moral of the story: Get a Dog.

[–]Tongsuyuk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

okay then dog guy. I would rather not take care of a dog. Is this still the red pill or doggie day care discussion. Your dog sucks.

[–]MustNotFfff0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You forgot #11: A dog is a prop. Women will approach you/your dog if they fancy one of you.

Wish I had a dog. But I don't think I would want the responsibility.

[–]Neuro_Skeptic-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't inflict TRP on a dog. Become a normal person then get a dog.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Bitches will be bitches, as I pound in my chevy, its getting, its getting kinda heavy" -snoopdogg

[–]veritableill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post. I've only owned a bichon frise when I was growing up, and want to change it up to a medium sized dog. From what I've read a spitze breed seems optimal, I want like a pure bred amazing dog but don't have a lot of cash to spend. Whats a good breed with good cost:benefit ratio?

[–]drkush-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even better advice get a Dalmation, I had an ex-girlfriend who owned one and we would take it to the park. Seems like every little girl in the park wanted to come pet it because of the movies, and the little girls all had their moms with them. If I hadn't had my girlfriend I could have easily gotten some hot mom numbers.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well you just sold me on not getting a

Edit: got Downvoted because apparently single mommies are now a highly sought after commodity.

[–]casemodsalt-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

What op said is true.

I walk my dog at the park and usually don't get too much attention but the last time I went, a cute girl was with her dog and initiated conversation with me. She was super flirty..I think.

Just don't expect to have pussy thrown at you the second you put the leash on, lol.

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Agree 100%. Dogs are a wonderful gift to mankind. As such, they should be treated with respect and care. Pet ownership is a great lesson in responsibility; if you can't take care of a dog, don't even think about trying to care and provide for a human woman.

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