A male birth control trial was cancelled for being unsafe to men. Feminists beta-shame and find a way to make it all about themselves.

NeckbeardVirgin69 · 2016-11-02T21:39:13+00:00

I have to say, I noticed this myself. I don't really like when people try too hard to come up with women-bashing shit, but this is legitimate.

About 95% of the articles were attempts to equate male birth control to female birth control, and that's apples to oranges. They have nowhere close to the same method of action.

The study was stopped because the symptoms encountered by the men were deemed too serious from a medical standpoint. A large majority of the men participating in the study said they would take the birth control, as it was, if it were prescribed.

gekkozorz · 2016-11-02T21:01:15+00:00

After doing some research, I commented on one of those posts, apparently one guy killed himself during the trial and several men were sterile for far longer than they were supposed to be after the trial was stopped.

I got called a cunt and a rapist etc.

edit: thought I'd post some context

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T01:16:44+00:00

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dammit_redskins · 2016-11-02T19:33:41+00:00

Olive Clover in Heat Street with a very underrated comment:

They should focus on the 1 guy who became infertile and create a new painless chemical vasectomy option!

I completely agree and since I don't want kids, I would definitely do this.

eslong · 2016-11-02T19:19:14+00:00

You know that dropping the facts will do no good brother. If the white knights dont defeat you, the hamster awaits.

___what___ · 2016-11-03T01:29:00+00:00

Feminists are SO LOUD about "it's my body, my choice!" But when men decide and choose not to be suicidal and infertile (actually, scratch that, WHO chooses for men not to be suicidal and infertile) that's not so much their tune anymore. Because, like, men are babies lol amirite!?

I point this shit out on Twitter all the time, and as a woman, I get told I must hate myself and have so much internalized misogyny.

tuxidomasx · 2016-11-02T21:52:08+00:00

still waiting for that vasalgel

Sumuran · 2016-11-02T22:51:31+00:00

Seeing both men and women on Facebook bash these men is insane. The few men (and women) who try to defend them are torn down without mercy. That's the whole point of studies is to find out what works and what doesn't. This didn't work, like 1000s of other drugs that companies test, but this one is getting all the heat because it's male birth control. My favorite headlines are one that has to work the term "cis" into them. They know who their audience is.

Rabadon123 · 2016-11-02T23:26:36+00:00

I see a lot of women on facebook saying "well women have been getting these symptoms for years and they never stoped the trials!"

This is more proof that women care more about the ability to use their pussy to control men than they actually care about sexual enjoyment. Men found the trials unbearable because men want sex to satisfy their sexual urges.

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T02:24:00+00:00

So many land whales in my feed are spouting off "MEN CAN'T DEAL WITH WHAT WOMEN DEAL WITH!"

Meanwhile, the study said something like 75% of men in the BC trials didn't have any adverse side effects.. Or could simply just deal with it. I didn't read much of it to be honest.

It's so entertaining how they demonize men for saying something like "you throw like a girl" and then essentially making the same exact "micro aggressions" that were made toward them.

These fat feminist idiots are filled with self-loathing because it's really themselves that they hate and it's clear as day that's what they're projecting.

"BODY POSITIVITY!" ("I am fat and I hate myself for it, so someone please tell me I'm pretty!")

"SO SICK OF CIS GENDERED GUYS TELLING ME HOW TO LIVE!" ("I wish I was pretty enough to have a GOOD LOOKING straight guy be my rock and give me some leadership... But I'm fat and my only orbiters are beta losers who are afraid to put me in my place")

-uftw- · 2016-11-03T02:34:32+00:00

Keep in mind that a huge difference in men and women is that they're fertile one time every month, while we produce sperm 100% of the time so the amount of hormone altering stuff that goes into a male birth control pill is way higher dose. That is also why it's way harder to make that pill than it was for women.

But of course the media is never going to acknowledge that, it's easier to say men are bitches.

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2016-11-03T00:02:10+00:00

Guys? Guys. The male birth control in question isn't anything exotic. It's just testosterone.

Yep. Testosterone injections temporarily (usually) cause almost complete infertility.

I take it twice a week. I experience very little in the way of adverse side effects. A little acne, and it'll cause erection problems if I don't remember to take my AI (aromatase inhibitor) with it.

...And that's it. This is a medication that's widely available. You can do this yourself. The health risks are minor, manageable, and very well documented.

Go forth and (not) multiply, brethren.

Vioret · 2016-11-03T05:38:07+00:00

Comment by Christopher312

It's another misleading/false media narrative perpetrated by progressive journalists with no integrity. A summary of the situation, not all of which is outlined in this article:

Outlets like Fusion and Vice are pushing a narrative that a male birth control study was cancelled because whiny men can't take the symptoms that women already have with female birth control.

They focused on minor symptoms like cramps, ignoring the fact that of the 320 participants, one was completely infertile four years later, 8 (2.5%) had low sperm counts one year later, one committed suicide, and several experienced severe depression. Some of this could be unrelated, but it's still relevant information.

They make it sound like way more men quit than actually did. Only 20 men (6.3%) quit the study. I'm not a scientist, but I can't believe this isn't normal among drug studies. Additionally, the test was cancelled by an outside board, not the people in the study. Only 1.1% of the people in the study reported a negative experience and only 1.5% said they wouldn't use it again.

It sounds like canceling the study will ruin birth control for everyone. In reality, one of the reasons the study was cancelled was because the board that made the decision decided enough data had already been collected for the study, so not much was lost by cancellation. Erring on the side of caution is standard for modern drug tests.

Side note, do feminists actually think they want male birth control? I don't think they've thought it through, because if they did they would realize male birth control shifts a lot of control away from women and to men.

the_calibre_cat · 2016-11-02T22:39:58+00:00

Oh, it's infuriating. 20 (out of 320) men backed out, and 75% of the men reported that they would take the contraceptives in the future. So, you know, a clear majority of the men didn't back out (yet are being judged based on the actions of the 6% who did), and a clear majority are good obedient feminists (or, less likely, red pilled men looking to defend themselves - but that narrative never gets public airtime) who would take the damn thing.

It's frustrating, but whatever. I've long since conceded that the Right was asleep at the wheel and the left's internet virtue-signaling echo chamber is what it is. It's wrong and ineffectual, but angry conservatives whom they already hate aren't going to teach them shit, but failure will.

The echo chamber merely deludes. Reality is inescapable.

victor_knight · 2016-11-03T01:47:05+00:00

Man on the moon? Piece of cake (1969). Scanning tunneling microscope to observe atoms? No problem (1981). Intercontinental ballistic missiles? Yawn (1958). Male birth control? Holy fuck we have no fucking idea what or how the fuck to make this crazy shit safe!!!

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T03:37:03+00:00

Bitches gonna bitch.

It's funny. I used to be super Beta from the age of 5-23. But now I don't even consider women more than cum dumpsters for producing kids and I have never been happier.

Of course I don't tell them this. Saying it to them will cause them to say words that I have no intention of listening to. But actually treating them like this has actually yielded very good results.

I wish society would catch on.

Edit: Looking at a google search is disguising. This is another example of how the media is bias as fuck and not to be trusted.

Men Abandon Groundbreaking Study on Male Birth Control

Men Abandoned Male Birth Control

Men Pull Out Of Male Birth Control Trial After Experiencing

And so on. I only found one that actually cited that it was the WHO and only 6% of men backed out.

Blanket shaming men is fun I guess.

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T04:20:47+00:00

http://press.endocrine.org/doi/pdf/10.1210/jc.2016-2141. Just in case you wanna see the original article

brunudumal · 2016-11-02T23:16:45+00:00

There is a doctor in Brazil that claimed to have invented the birth control pills for Men but feminists were against it and killed the development

https://youtu.be/LibyBjUnj2Y

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsimar_M._Coutinho

yomo86 · 2016-11-03T03:34:14+00:00

Taking BC from women is like taking the only power tool from an absolute monarch.

Condoms can burst or "leak", pills fail and whatnot. But a vasectomy or a functioning male pill is 99,9 % a safe bet and WILL result in a man, beta, gamma, harlequin or not, fighting paternity. micdrop

Moonshineraider · 2016-11-02T21:19:00+00:00

These feminist will never allow anything progressive to come to pass. By making a female issue out of a question of medicine for males, they show the flagrancy of their narcissism and how little they care about the health of men.

We will always have to look out for ourselves and developing safe birth control for men is the best thing for us. The good old "snip" has been an option for a long time, but has mostly been restricted from younger men, especially if they have no kids. This hormonal treatment has proven to be too risky, and the cost these men suffered was not in vain. I've read about other products currently undergoing human trials that look much more promising, and if safe options can be brought to market for males as young as teenagers it will provide a massive wall of defense against the degradation of men at large.

SpacePotatoBear · 2016-11-03T00:25:00+00:00

correction, it isn't cancelled, the reserachers are compiling their data.

but yes several men did experience issues and withdrew from the trial.

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T10:09:35+00:00

There are over ten types of Female Birth Control medicines. Males don't even have one. The closest medical analogy to this drug is the Depo Provera which has a 1% failure rate as compared to this drug which has a 4% failure rate. The side effects of Depo Provera do not include any mood disorders and if someone does show side effects, she has over 10 different options. This study was cancelled because the incidence of side effects reported that 60% of the side effects were caused by the drug and 40% were unrelated.

feminists show their usual idiocy and their lack of an education. All the more reason why you shouldn't allow feminists in policy making, it will fuck everything up for everyone.

razormachine · 2016-11-03T19:41:29+00:00

If you still get shocked by news such as this you haven't truly understood the Red Pill.

"Woman say that man should..."

Who gives a fuck what woman say? Woman doesn't put food on my table, she doesn't pay my bills.

Only thing that I get from woman is pussy, and I do not get that pussy for being what woman tell me what they wan't me to be.

JohnnySkidmarx · 2016-11-03T03:53:36+00:00

Fuck the bitches. Feminazis are worthless cunts that are miserable people.

-Kato · 2016-11-03T08:20:45+00:00

Anyone else remember when male contraception came out as a possibility and feminists went off on one? Saying it was sexist for taking a woman's right to childbirth or some shit. Their nonsense is never ending it seems.

zephyrprime · 2016-11-03T14:48:15+00:00

Yeah I saw this issue pop up and I thought, "what the fuck? All this male shaming is bullshit". They pulled the plug on the study because it was unsafe. The level of side effects was too high for a non-lifesaving drug. One of the dudes in the study became infertile and 7 didn't recover their sperm levels for a year.

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2016-11-03T17:13:41+00:00

Currently I'm on Test Cyp. I can't speak wth authority as to how long the BC effect would last, because I stay on it.

SillyAmerican · 2016-11-03T20:11:40+00:00

First off this is a product for men...so why would they even have an opinion? Oh because they have dealt with side effects for all these years? Not our fault every girl that likes cum inside her begs her Dr for a prescription despite the side effects. Want a pill without side effects? stop buying the version that is out.

The__Tren__Train · 2016-11-02T23:18:45+00:00

I was wondering when I would see this topic here lol

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T03:40:57+00:00

Lol 😁 i got a vasectomy i know some want children but i sure as hell dont

anon1moos · 2016-11-03T03:55:55+00:00

on a different part of a certain site, people who know a lot about hormones break down why this was a stupid experiment, and why these side effects in men are indicative of serious problems (like potential permanent infertility) rather than just an inconvenience.

McAkkeezz · 2016-11-03T07:00:41+00:00

Male birth control is a fucking joke, use a condom, cheap and effective. Protects you from unwanted babies and STD's. No need for pills or other chemicals.

MyReddit6 · 2016-11-03T07:08:04+00:00

its more like "bitch, why don't you science up and make a better product."

RichieFinn · 2016-11-03T09:45:03+00:00

a girl on my feed, jokingly, but ironically commented "HAHAAHA WHAT WOMEN" on the link

coffeeandscripts · 2016-11-03T10:27:32+00:00

Only 1.3% of men were dissatisfied with the drug. 4 of the men also got their partners pregnant. If I crunch the numbers, that's about 1.3% of men got their partners pregnant.

Men are literally willing to do anything that doesn't leave them with a baby to take care of.

[deleted] · 2016-11-03T14:35:01+00:00

Why are you giving that comedian attention? It's like free advertisement. Ignore the troll

Moneyley · 2016-11-03T15:00:04+00:00

termed TRIVIAL side-effects like acne, mood swings, changes in libido and weight gain.

Fusion is a left leaning media outlet btw. HAHAHA only our essence as a man is impacted as we lose our libido. This is just trivial effect though

nonthaki · 2016-11-03T16:47:16+00:00

My request to all of You is to not cut slack on any of these women : RP Women , feminists , libtards, everyone . They are all equally cunning and guilty .

RoyG28 · 2016-11-03T18:41:08+00:00

Taking hormones to temporarily change your sperm count can't be a good idea.It contained estrogen,so some of the side effects were erection problems and moodiness.

It's really bad idea,although quite effective for birth control.

Blacklabellogics · 2016-11-03T19:34:13+00:00

Never listen to women about birth control, if men got the pill in 1960 there wouldn't have been an "accidental pregnancy" for 56 years.

Tacotuesdayftw · 2016-11-04T07:54:28+00:00

Most of the comments were about women bearing the responsibility of contraception, yet I've spent hundreds on condoms by now, and a lot of girls refuse to get in bed with me without them, and it's always 100% my responsibility to produce the condom.

I've never been with a girl who had a condom with her. I've never been with a girl who has ever bought a pack.

Also, don't most woman take birth control because they want less severe/often periods? And most guys would be happy to have their own contraception that isn't condoms because every guy in here agrees that condoms suck.

But if we do get a good contraception like this, then condoms would probably go extinct or become rare, and with that, STDs would likely skyrocket.

But for real? These guys are taking part in the testing process of a drug. If any man or woman tested any drug and the side effects became too great, again, on a non FDA approved drug, you would likely drop out of the testing. Women take birth control because they don't have to sign a waver that says, "I WILL NOT SUE YOU IF I EXPERIENCE SIDE EFFECTS." They are legally protected and with that protection comes a relative amount of security and faith that you will be OK if you take that drug. That security is not apparent when testing an experimental drug.

My last point is just this - These men didn't have to test anything. They could have said, "Fuck it, let it be women's problem." Instead, they took part in the test, signed the waivers, and helped this company test a drug that could alleviate the stress of birth control for a large portion of women, so why berate them? These types of women are so often difficult to take seriously.

EmDeeEx · 2016-11-04T09:24:21+00:00

I wouldn't even engage those beasts. Arguing over something like personal choice is kinda inefficient, and well, just pissed everyone off

[deleted] · 2016-11-07T13:08:40+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJL7I9_UzL0

NO_LAH_WHERE_GOT · 2016-11-03T01:04:20+00:00

How did OP get endorsed?

here's a "comedian" calling men "little bitches" for backing out

Shocking.

If you've been on Facebook at all over the past day, I'm sure you've seen details of this already.

Find better friends.

I'm annoyed with all these fucking cunts and their anti-man yammerings.

Get over it.

If you need to drop any red pills to shut them the fuck up,

Then you should reflect on your 'needs'.

ChadUnderRock · 2016-11-02T23:01:23+00:00

Coming from someone with a vasectomy: Stop being a bitch and get a vasectomy. I had it done in my early 20s.

This thread reeks of the same "muh feels" bullshit you find every day on 2x. You were born a man, and therefore have to take on all responsibility when it comes to social and reproductive issues. I'm amazed this is such a recurring topic here.

nantucketghost · 2016-11-03T12:57:26+00:00

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Sumuran · 2016-11-02T20:46:00+00:00

The only argument I care about is that its HER BODY, her responsibility. Women have more to lose than men when it comes to pregnancy. Sure, you can get raped for alimony, but her chances of scoring Chad millionaire have gone to 0.

The only reason why men are even considering this, is out of fear of "Im totally on the pill" and then "it doesnt work 99% of the time".

Title	A male birth control trial was cancelled for being unsafe to men. Feminists beta-shame and find a way to make it all about themselves.
Author	gekkozorz
Upvotes	1168
Comments	193
Date	02 November 2016 07:02 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/39505
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A male birth control trial was cancelled for being unsafe to men. Feminists beta-shame and find a way to make it all about themselves.

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