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There's more to SMV than height (looks/race/hair). Learning to build a captive audience.

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March 21, 2017
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I originally typed this up in response to this thread where a short guy laments his shortness: "If you're under 5'6 you are condemned to Beta status by women, forever."

Here's my reply.

Jesus christ stop feeling bad for yourself. Think Danny Devito didn't get laid in his prime? Of course he did. He's ugly, short, and fat.

Listen, being short sucks. We all agree, you lost the genetic lottery. But that doesn't mean you can't be great, it just means you're going to have to be clever. There's more to SMV than height. You're taller than everybody else when you're standing on a stage.

Generally this would be removed, but I remove so many of these I'm keeping this one (and stickying) as a demonstration to others on exactly what it means to choke on the red pill and spit it back up.

It's easy to feel defeated, especially after failing more times than you can count. I get it, I really do. I've been there myself. You can really burn out after a while. Start wondering what the point is.

We all have mental anguish in failure. There were times I thought to myself, "fuck the red pill, what's the point when they're all whores anyway?" And sometimes I still think that (heh). But the reality is that it's a mindset. It's one that comes from weakness and failure. It's sour grapes. And it's not constructive in the least.

Yeah, things can suck. Maybe you're too short. Maybe you're balding. Maybe you're shit with social skills. Maybe you're fat, stupid, ugly and sad....

Take some time off of approaches. Stop thinking about women. Do something energetic. Go rock climbing, hiking, swimming, running. Take a month to do this. Focus on it daily. Come back with a clear head.

You can overcome your obstacles.

One of my closest friends was having trouble with our area which is surprisingly sparse of good looking women, and he had his own challenges he was afraid he couldn't overcome. My advice to him was advice I've given here before:

Create a captive audience.

You're nothing special at a party. You've got a reason to talk to everybody at your party.

You're nothing special at a concert. Everybody watches you when you're on the stage.

You're nothing special at a bar. Everybody talks to you when you're the bar tender.

My friend went on to become a bouncer at a local club. With the captive audience of not only the patrons but the staff (hot young bartenders), he was able to overcome the first hurdle- getting women to talk to you long enough to build rapport. He now knows dozens of women and is better poised to choose his pick than I ever was trolling bars on weekends. (He also kept it flirty with all of them, using game you can learn on our sidebar)

Building rapport is fucking hard. Even harder when the market sucks and there's a 10:1 dude to women ratio everywhere you go. Women simply will not let themselves be subject to you long enough to work your magic.

Build a captive audience.

It's easy for movie stars, the whole world is their captive audience. It's hard to become a movie star. That's true.

But getting a captive audience isn't that hard. I am somewhat proficient at the piano. I looked around for wine bars I could play at. I played at one or two, and during my breaks I'd head up to the bar where undoubtedly other people opened me!

It's not impossible. Find your niche. Whether it's a job, volunteer work, a running club, learning an instrument, or pursuing fame, it's all doable.


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Title There's more to SMV than height (looks/race/hair). Learning to build a captive audience.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 374
Comments 136
Date 21 March 2017 03:49 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/41966
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[–]prodigy2throw229 points230 points  (38 children) | Copy

The only thing worse than a short guy is an insecure short guy.

Some guys have to work harder in life. Either deal with it or hibernate

[–]Trpidation60 points61 points  (22 children) | Copy

Bruno mars is a short motherfucker, but his list of bitches he gets is far from it. Look at that dude. Fucking talented, probably because he's so short. Had to compensate somehow.

Lots of hyper successful men are very short. Just means you need to work harder. Sucks, but that's reality.

[–]sirhudkalra5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Completely agree - I have even spoken about this before ( https://youtu.be/xlsLeG31uv8 ) the the game for us is about fucking STATUS - First and Foremost.

Whether you measure that status in wealth, or social standing, hierarchy at an organisation, or whatever. STATUS IS KING and men should work to maximise theirs all the time and leverage arbitrage to their favour by relocating to an environment where they automatically come out superior (imagine white guy in asian country)

[–]RoboRaptorReindeer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, it's all about how you compare to your environment.

When I was in college I worked a shitty job at a restaurant. The job was easy and I always work hard, so I could run circles around anyone else in the kitchen. I was also underpaid so I didn't give a fuck. I'd go in high all the time, questioned authority regularly, and gave everybody shit when they slacked/complained. I also did landscaping during the summer and was tan/lean af. Pretty much every girl in that place wanted my dick. I ended up stupidly ltring one bitch cuz I was BP then.

Anyways the point of that semi-selfwanking story is that I'm in better shape now, make 8x what I did then, understand women/people better, etc and I don't get half the unopened attention I'd got then because I am at the bottom of the food chain working in the tech field. Time to move my jam sessions to an open mic or something.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (19 children) | Copy

I still cannot figure out if any of what you wrote was meant to be taken seriously or if this is an example of awesome wit! Im hoping its the latter

[–]Trpidation19 points20 points  (18 children) | Copy

I'm actually being very serious about it. It's a fact of life.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (16 children) | Copy

I just dont see how you can assume hes probably talented because hes so short; could easily be born with a great voice and the genes to be a giant, follow a bad nutrition plan and you wont grow. Just look at the north koreans.

[–]Top_Brazzler10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

I know a fat kid who developed a great sense of humor to compensate for being pudgy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Now i wonder if the sense of humor was something that developed on its own after accepting that he was fat or if he deliberately worked day and night to develop a compensating sense of humor that distracted attention from his waste line. Id imagine its the former but most here will say the latter.

[–]Top_Brazzler2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

It's the former because kids don't practice comedy. Everyone wants to be liked (as kids) and when you get treated as a fat guy, the brain somehow hamsters a positive trait into existence so that fat kids can get social validation from their peers.

I'm a Nasa Neuroscientist

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

100%, I've also noticed that these people may often try to "buy" their friends by marketing themselves as the kid with the coolest possessions and buying all the top notch/most recent computers, laptops, phones, etc..

But like you said, they exploit their genetic make up (influence of epigenetics and will power) but things will always lead to this nature vs. nurture/environment argument (aka chicken or the egg). A fat persons sense of humor is the perfect example of humility, its humbling. Hence why I like hanging around my fat friends lol

I'm a neuromechanist/engineer are yall hiring over yonder?

[–]Top_Brazzler0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

only if you've spent several summers at space camp! As with all things in life, just apply yourself and get lucky.

[–]LennMacca13 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

As a musician I can tell you that while genetics determine the timbre of your voice, only practice and knowledge make a skillful singer. And no one is born knowing how to play instruments or how to write hit songs. Bruno writes hit after hit, and if you examine his songs, it's because he cracked a formula to do it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy

I get what youre saying but yes, that vast majority of musicians have perfect pitch, something youre born with (i.e., genetic). These people are born capable of playing every instrument because they dont play notes, they play by sound. I have several friends who have never taken any sort of music lessons but have watched them play the piano violin, sax, guitar, flute, the list goes on. Of course there is a formula, but who needs a formula when you can derive them all from your natural ability

[–]LennMacca14 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Perfect pitch is extremely rare, you're thinking of relative pitch. Relative pitch is also something that's developed through experience though (granted some people are more disposed than others), and that's not even getting into the physical technique required to play really well. I think I'm someone who probably fits the bill you're talking about (proficient at six instruments with no lessons), but I've practiced every single day for the last 10 years, since I was in sixth grade. It doesn't feel like work because I'm passionate about it but it's work nonetheless. I'm sorry dude, but no musician I know just picked up an instrument and started playing on the first day, it takes time and dedication. That would be literal savant territory.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

1 in 10,000 isnt too rare when everyone thinks they can sing lol. But yes you are right. And by no means am I saying that you or anyone else with natural talent do not work hard, things may come easily to some but that doesnt mean that everyone then chooses to take the easy road. Most still put in their 10,000 hours. What I mean is that these people have an innate ability that cannot be taught, only harnessed (like many other talents). Everyone can work to become great at something, but relative to their peers with natural talent, talent will always beat practice (assuming these are two individuals with similar training patterns but with different genetics). Not everyone can be great at everything, but they can certainly figure out what they are the best at and exploit it. And yeah those people obviously have some knowledge of instruments, but prior to that they just have this feeling that they already understand what they should do with the instrument. Which is what got them interested in them in the first place.

[–]LennMacca10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I definitely agree there. My original point is just that even though someone like lil' Bruno obviously has natural talent, he might not have chosen to develop it as much had he been 6'1", you know what I mean? So in that sense he could be "talented because he's short." Hope I haven't come across too hostile or blunt, I've just developed an annoyance when people talk about natural musical talent cause it's usually in the context of making excuses or belittling my effort. Obviously that's not what you're doing here, but it still gets the same gut reaction from me haha. You mind sourcing that 1 in 10,000 statistic? I'm curious about it cause it honestly seems too high for total perfect pitch, but maybe I'm wrong.

[–]Top_Brazzler points points [recovered] | Copy

I fit your definition of tuba savant, fwiw. I hated the instrument, quit 2 years after first playing it. Auditioned years later and got into my Univ marching band after they heard me play and me telling them I haven't played in 4 years. (i quit 2 weeks later, lol)

[–]RoboRaptorReindeer1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like they had nobody who would play tuba. And the search continues..

[–]thedaynos15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

i'd say insecure bitch ass tall guys are also worse than a short guy.

[–]Primary__Account points points [recovered] | Copy

Im very short at 5'3 yet i dont care lol. Only thing i want is some damn facial hair but my family isnt hairy.

[–]prodigy2throw6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dudes with lots of facial hair usually go bald sooner. So I guess you can be thankful for that too

[–]Raikkonen7166 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"The world won’t care about your self-esteem." - Bill Gates

[–]TheReformist942 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Im just going to leave this here, for all the male hamstering on this sub. Looks is the most important thing, namely in the face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFnJMPQow7A

FACE>HEIGHT/MUSCLES>GAME

Social Status/Game/Personailty are simply BB traits, increasing your aggregate RMV, NOT SMV.

[–]MisterRoid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem for short guys is that they are victims of selective perception. Many people hold the view that short people are insecure and suffer from complexes related to their short stature, so if they see a short guy acting tough, they will think "How cute! He's trying to overcompensate by acting like a wannabe tough guy!" People wearing glasses suffer from the same phenomeon too.

[–]redpillschool points points [recovered] | Copy

Due to reddit rules you'll have to remove that last sentence.

[–]Returnofthemack30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

pretty much. It's not fair, but there are a lot of things you can do to live a good life. Honestly, unless youre seriously deformed, a midget, or have a 3 inch cock, you can't bitch about too much. I've known guys without legs that managed to have a positive outlook, so I have a pretty low tolerance of beta schlubs that are just too lazy to lose weight and gain muscle. Get over it, start doing something.

[–]TheRedChemist54 points55 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's funny you mention the bouncer example. After contemplation recently I've started the process to become a bouncer on weekend nights.

Why?

Experiences with women over the last 18 months have shown me that my advertising sucks but my product is great. If I get a foot in the door then the chick rapidly becomes almost literally addicted to me, but it's really tough to cross that first hurdle with strangers, my daily life does not routinely encounter many women, and my normal environments for meeting women have me starting on the back foot. Plus I'm often bored weekend nights and club game is not my forte.

Solution: bouncing is an environment with massively increased exposure to women of all types, as a captive audience, start with a natural advantage as an authority figure, plus get paid for it too. Downside, might get stabbed.

[–]epixs22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

don't stop man. I did this exactly in college, started working as a bouncer at some shitty bars/clubs and networked my way into the upscale bars and night clubs. I read about social charisma, emotional intelligence, and everything about interaction and then practiced them in the field (aka when working). I go so good at after 2.5 years. I miss my bouncing days for sure man, best thing I ever did to become socially savvy at a very high lvl

[–]MrB0gus20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

my advertising sucks but my product is great.

This is a GREAT point that isn't discussed much. You could be a rich, great looking, jacked, interesting, funny, intelligent guy and if you spend all your time at work, and don't go out on weekends you will never get laid. And if you cram into a packed club on a Friday night full of high-status guys you will start getting laid slightly more.

But if you become the coach of a local intermural basketball league, or bartender at a local hot spot, or teacher at an improv. class, hell even the alpha male at a local dungeon and dragons league (granted there are females who actually go), you're numbers will go through the roof.

Put yourself in a position that advertises your high status and authority.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

If your advertising sucks but your product is great then get a puppy; girls love dogs so it will increase the value of your "'product" (dog gives you bonus points) while also providing a slight distraction which is good for you because instead of realizing you have no game, she will associate her positive experience with your dog as a form of good "advertising"

[–]TheRedChemist5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like your thinking but that's a strategy that's only really useful in one situation - when out walking the dog and doing it somewhere that your preferred kind of women will be hanging out. Perhaps a slight reflection bonus in situations where you can mention your dog in conversations, and dogs are a proven bonus point for Tinder, but that's it. No use talking about the obvious fact that a dog is a huge commitment too, personally it's not for me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh I agree, yet so is getting a job; being a bouncer does not impress women, any impression is simply a facade; its a way for them to remove your inherent authority as someone within a position of power. At which point I ask, who is trying to play who here and what field do you guys think youre playing on?

Secondly, your thought process is a bit cloudy on the dog analysis. "only really useful in one situation - when out walking the dog and doing it somewhere that your preferred kind of women will be hanging out" - having to walk the dog increases your chances of running into someone new each and every day; allows you to gain recognizability in the areas you do travel, increasing your chances of future success with those who believe you "look familiar", provides an added incentive to head back to your place (either because the girl wants to meet your dog, or for the simple reason that you "need to run home quick to let your dog out". The key to the game is to never actually have a strategy, but to be strategic instead. Creativity and improvesational skills are necessary if you really want to be successful/be able to pull any girl you want.

[–]GenghisKhanSpermShot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bouncing did help girls come up to me and I met a lot more women. Like you said I got tired of the drama and dealing with drunk dumb-asses though. Seeing other bouncers throw guys on their head, having guys try and throw bottles at you etc, it got old quick for me at least. Some guys are really into that shit, so have at it, just wanted to give you a heads up it's not all glamorous, plus the pay usually sucks ass, but it does help with meeting women.

[–]Snazzy_Serval0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How do you get hired as a bouncer when you're 5'4?

[–]Wolffy9337 points38 points  (9 children) | Copy

Pretty sure I am the shortest guy that reads this sub.

4'11" (of course I round up to 5'2" because it rolls off the tongue better!)

This post is one of the best, for me at least, I've read here so far.

I continue to realize that TRP, this entire way of thinking and viewing life, is not as simple as Swallow The Pill and BOOM, you've made it. The swallowing is perhaps the easy part. Living, Acting, taking Action, CONSISTENT action, on what you have just ingested is the hard part that I continue to struggle with.

I often think people in general do not know how to ... relate is not the word but for lack of a better word... relate to the struggles (which often come out as Whining) that short guys will inevitably come to and as such, conclusions they draw after coming to this forum. I very much understand why many short guys complain. I understand it, but still, as TRP and Life teaches, It Is Not An Excuse. It is especially not an Excuse ANYONE wants to hear or Cares to hear (with the exception of Maybe your mom), not when there are men who are short, perhaps SHORTER than you, paving their own path and giving a damn about the hand the genetic overlords dealt them. (Thanks mom, thanks dad) Might have to work a bit / lot harder but... It is what men do. Either find a way or help someone else find theirs.

Absolutely hate the saying "Well it could be worse..." As much as I hate when people compare pain / struggle... ... ... 2 Numbers - 4'11"

Unedited. No exaggeration. No sugar coating. No rounding up to create funnier stories. No combat boots. No "On a good day I'm actually 5'2" and on a REALLY good day I'm 6'5." None of that.

5'6" is FUCKING TALL to me. Not much I Wouldn't do to be That Short. I'd love to be that height.

6'2" is Godlike to me. You can do Absolutely no wrong with that much of a blessed opening hand. I do not think I would know what to do with all that power.

Besides the point though.

I remember a while ago having a conversation with my dad about this and he essentially echo'd the same thing you said in your closing line;

Find your niche and get damn good at it. Do this while practicing the other areas of TRP - Lifting, etc and etc.

Being short is a disadvantage. Yes it certainly is. I cannot with any confidence look anyone in the eye and say it Isn't. However, the attitude one approaches this with is what makes all the difference.

Another poster said that the only thing worse than a short guy is an insecure short guy. Do believe this is why I get Very irrationally angry at "Short" Guys being insecure about being short. If fellow brothers get annoyed at such behavior, I can only imagine how much of a turn-off it is to women.

That being said, I am still new to all of this, despite starting down the journey months ago. I do not feel I am adequately experienced to comment on many things on TRP. However, threads about shortness I always feel a need to chime in to give my other fellow "Shorties" a pat on the back and to not give up.

Even if I am an entire foot shorter than most of them ;)

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being short is a disadvantage. Yes it certainly is. I cannot with any confidence look anyone in the eye and say it Isn't. However, the attitude one approaches this with is what makes all the difference.

The day you will see your height as a difference that sets you apart from the crowd, it won't be a disadvantage. It is a disadvantage in your mind because society tells that and because women follow the crowd. You are better than that.

[–]Project_Thor points points [recovered] | Copy

Find a tall player, become his friend. Us tall guys need more loyal friends like you. Make sure to keep kicking his ass.

[–]Wolffy930 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Eh... I am loyal.

Disgustingly loyal to my fellow bros.

[–]Project_Thor points points [recovered] | Copy

As long as they deserve it. That's what us taller guys crave.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're comming off as condescending talking about him providing feels for tall people...

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[–]Sirkisskindofman2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't get emotional bruh. He's just envious of your ability to bring others so easily into your frame. Keep up the good work Sasquatch. /s

[–]Wolffy930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll take your word for it.

[–]yomo8614 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Maybe I am just totally fixed in regard to that matter but I simply don't know why people cannot get that some factors, or genetic markers are detrimental - even to the point of un-dateable.

Sure, shortness to a certain degree will not make matters worse, to an extended degree it will not impair your dating ability. But come on. Using Danny DeVito - the anomaly in mating success - to proof the concept of the assumption that all men can fuck if they put the work in, is futile.

When were are talking women, we blatantly say the truth. Super obese women are a no-go. For most, one-legged women are a no-go etc. we consider them 1s or 2s. No matter how big their heart of gold is or how feminine they are. We are not likely to be neither their AF nor, god forbid, BB.

Now, when some 5'3-ish poor fucker wants to be pampered we repeat the same shit the pick-up artists make money on. Height doesn't matter homey, you just need game/improvements under your belt. Well, newsflash. To offset a significant below average you need a lot of strength in other areas, not just being able to captivate an audience. You just become the dancing monkey. And DeVito could dance so well, he made an awful lot of money so his SMV rose above Chads in terms of wealth.

Some men (and women) just have it way harder than the rest. Sure a lot of it is whining but while race trolls can just move to a more liberal area, dress better than the rest, put muscle on growing beyond the age of 19 is quite unlikely. Same holds true for men with disfigurements from war or accidents.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

More people fail than succeed. That is the way of life. Your choice is whether or not you make the choice to succeed or blame somebody for failure.

[–]DF-RP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There might truly be some people that are unfuckable outside of nastiest prostitutes. But those guys are a tiny ass anomaly in the number of guys around. The top post is spot on. Deal with the cards you've been dealt and work on yourself, get that edge in some other area. If you are short but still taller than significant fraction of the girls around like your 5'3" example, that's definitely not an excuse to fucking give up. Sure you are playing on hard mode, but it's more than doable.

I'm 5'5" rounded up - and that's less than average height for women in my home country. I used to be an introverted nerd with fucked up teeth who was fat and dressed like a slob. No wonder I was a kissless virgin all the way 24 years of age.

Since then, I've changed lot. First forced myself to start to go out. Lost the fat, started dressing well, paid attention to personal grooming. Entered new social groups and hung on to them. Started gym. Got good mid-term jobs while doing double masters at top of the line schools. Learned a foreign language really good and hung out in activities related to that country.

After I decided I wanted to get rid of the v-card, it took me 1 month of going out every night to pull the first girl while leveraging my advantages. Few months more for the 2nd. Then 6 in a year. Then 14 in a 6 week period on holiday. Now I can pull a new college girl every week if I just have the energy to go out consistently.

Can I get anyone I want? Of course not. Do I still get rejected a lot? Definitely. But if you had told me when I was 24 that I'd be going into 3 digits of girls before I turn 30, I'd have laughed in your face.

If you just bitch and give up before trying, of course you won't ever make it. Of course not everyone can get the results I've had. You might be even shorter. You might be stupider. You might have worse face. But unless you are an absolute anomaly, 1 in a million case, you can improve enough to get tail.

[–]magikmausi72 points73 points  (4 children) | Copy

5'6" married to a 5'8" chick. My FIL is 6'2", MIL is 5'9", her sister is 5'10", her brother is 6'5"

I absolutely HATE short guys who feel sorry for themselves. So you didn't get the height gene (in my case, it's worse cause my brother is 5'11" AND handsome as fuck). Boo fucking hoo. Who fucking cares. There are about a billion other things that could have gone wrong with you. And the only thing that went "wrong" is your height

Are you seriously feeling sorry for yourself because you don't occupy enough vertical space? Like 2-3 extra inches of it?

These sub is also turning into some sort of idiotic ALPHA MEN circlejerk.

Jeez man, sure Jason Mamoa has a big advantage over you, but women don't EXCLUSIVELY fuck 6'4" muscular chads. They fuck cute guys too. They fuck nerdy weirdos too.

Make your shit work for you.

I'm 5'6" so I KNOW I can't be some huge jacked dude. So I don't play that up. Instead, I play up my youthfulness and mischieviousness. I tease them. I play around with them. I have fun with them. And they respond - even in socially guarded settings - because hey, this 5'6" guy isn't going to be a big threat, right?

Use what you have. And stop feeling sorry for yourself

And if you can, become a performer. Some of the biggest musicians in the world are shorties. Do you think Prince had trouble getting pussy because he was 5'2"?

[–]pilljourney15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm 5'4" and I agree. I understand very well why short guys feel the way they do because I've had the life experience of a short man, but it bothers me when I see it. There's no shortage of men that respect me and women that want to fuck me and almost all of them are taller than me.

If you're a man, women will pick up on it and they'll be interested. If you don't love yourself nobody has any reason to give a shit about you. Do you know what women really love? Men. We come in many different shapes and sizes. But if you exude masculinity they'll like it, period. Obviously a dude taller than me of equal value otherwise will be more valued on a surface level by most every woman but that doesn't matter at all. The same could be said for a man with more money or a bigger social circle. Stop comparing yourself to other people.

[–]ShakaLeonidas17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Height is status personified. Its an Alpha quality. Non- disputable. Doesn't mean it's raining pussy but it is an advantage same as money, muscles and social status. Yes the 6'3 slightly above average guy will prolly fuck the same chicks as the high status 5'9 guy without almost the additional qualities. It is what it is. THE BURDEN OF PERFORMANCE IS ALWAYS ON YOU. "Dont wish it was easier, make yourself better" OP has a point if your shorter you actively have to compensate. End of the day your still fucking though. That's all that matters. Pussy is a game of endurance and numbers. 99%of women ain't fucking Jason Mamoa. 99% of guys ain't fucking Kate Upton. Dont get discouraged plow what you can and enjoy it. Shoot your shot, improve yourself and shoot your shot agian. Youll hone in on your target range eventually. Yeah it's work but either your going to do it or your not. Women don't really care if you give up and you were never with fucking. THATS REALITY. Betas might fuck last,least and of the most subpar enthusiastic partners but they still fuck. You keep drilling and you get better. Fuck depriving females validation ,its 2017 and that aint happening in the next 2 lifetimes for it to be pertinent. Withdrawing economically is effective, but a land shake can find a cock to ride. Sometimes you gotta start from the bottom up. That's where confidence is built. Crawling out the pussy gutter will give a 5'5 guy the heart of a lion. Charisma is an undervalued SMV trait. It can be innate or it can be instilled. Dont give up. Its short guys banging hotties all the time, they are just cunning. Its less in your face then Physically Alpha guys. Rember it's called DUAL Strategy. For every jacked, tatted giant, theres a story of how little timmy beta bucks , flashed money car and a ring and swiped his bitch. Learn your strengths and weaknesses. Allen Iverson played basketball diferently than Shaq, but they still dominated on the court.

[–]Cardonish6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll repost my response to that post here as well:

This is not a troll. I'm ____ and this being TRP, we shouldn't give ______ men like me a false sense of hope. Here is the bitter harsh truth, _______ is the most attractive trait a man can possess. ______ screams strength and confidence, which I bet you all agree, are real panty wetters. It is far more important than being , or having a __ or a good __. And if you're _, like me, no amount of lifting or game can make you Alpha. I think we all know that Alpha Males are the __ and __people in prehistoric society. Being __ gives you automatic _____ and _______ because . _ men have a much larger potential __. If you're _, congratulations, nature has gifted you default Alpha Male status. Getting women will be much easier and even other men will respect you more. But if you're _, you're out of luck, you are a default Beta. Getting women is hell of a lot harder and other men have much less respect for you. Life is in hard mode if you're a man. Most politicians, businessmen and celebrities are __ than average. Being _____ on average means that you have more sexual partners, financial success and just general, overall happiness and satisfaction with life.. I'm still a kissless virgin who's ranting and whinging about his on a PUA forum. A majority of women I've asked out have outright told to my face that they would never date someone as __ as me. Some even told me that if I was __. Admittedly, I might not be that confident or witty as well because I'm still getting over my primary school bullying. Guess why those kids bullied me? - you guessed it, because I ___ and its fun to see me cry. You'll never get over early scars like that, especially if its still affecting your adulthood. Luckily, I was born in the age of VR porn to satisfy my sexual urges. I can rely on my pets, buddies and relatives to fulfill my needs of love and belonging. I will continue to lift, make music, pursue several other hobbies and my career dreams to boost my self-esteem. Who needs women, am I right? sigh

[–]_MysticFox points points [recovered] | Copy

"…what's the point when they're all whores anyway?"

How did you get over this? I'm fucked, I think that all of them are fucking evil. Even if they're "not aware of it", they're still fucking you over.

She's talking to you in class? Probably wants homework or notes. She wants to walk with you? Probably wants social proof and not look like a loser alone. Can't see them beyond a Machiavellian lens. Would rather rub one out.

[–]NotMyBestEffort2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You want something too. Be honest enough to each other to admit this obvious fact. Just go for what you want - she wants what an alpha man wants too.

[–]czatara0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"One can either love women or understand them, not both." - Sandman

[–]1OneRedYear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"One can either love women or understand them, not both." - Sandman

Either way, one can still fuck them. - OneRedYear

[–]reecewagner45 points46 points  (8 children) | Copy

What is this sub turning into? I still come here for great advice on working out my own inadequacies, but lately its a cesspool of frustrated dudes bitching about irrelevant shit. I can't even properly word how disappointing that irony is.

Edit: Christ, to be clear, I'm not knocking this sub or those who moderate it. I'm knocking the wilted foreskins who insist on venting their hapless garbage on what should otherwise be a constructive and progressive sub.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

Frustrated chumps have always been here. We've always done our best to remove it (or make examples out of it like today).

Don't forget to use your Report button on low quality content.

[–]reecewagner6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I still feel like a frustrated chump some days, but at least I'm not deluded about it. The thesis statement of this sub, to me, is realizing that you're the only one who can change your life, and how best to go about it. If you're not interested in putting in effort to change your life, why even come here?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

What is this sub? I come here for free value, and people who arent as far along as me using it for their own value/venting?

The irony is you think youre worth anything. 100%of this sub gives two shits about you or your opinion.

The reason the manlet is more valuable than you? He created content, built discussion, however youre both whining children

Seriously, fucking value leeches. Contribute nothing and expect everything.

[–]reecewagner11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm not claiming to be worth anything. It's the internet, of course I come here for free value. You'd seriously prefer I clog down this sub with self-involved pedantic shit like bitching about my height? That's neither creating content nor building discussion, that's being a defeatist knob who refuses to take control of his own life.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

I have two pet peeves, and It's largely shared by the other EC's

  • Whining posts
  • Posting whining about TRP's quality decline, with 0 contributions

Both are equally shit. If one has been paying attention, there are to ways to go about a decline in quailty: Post the content that you want the sub to aspire to, or leave.

Nagging is womans tricks, and useless here.

And don't give any crap about 'I'm not good enough'. I remember a post here, some 14 year old kid, he started lifting, approaching, and getting the fundamentals down. I even shit all over him, and he swatting away my shit test like it was nothing.

Kid had barely been lifting a month, but that fucking post was stickied to the front page for a good week. The perfect example of a teenager taking his masculinity back.

TLDR; nagging is for women.

[–]reecewagner6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Posting whining about TRP's quality decline, with 0 contributions Both are equally shit. If one has been paying attention, there are to ways to go about a decline in quailty: Post the content that you want the sub to aspire to, or leave.

I guess this is a fair statement.

[–]fuu999 points points [recovered] | Copy

I am asian, 99% of women crap on me when they see my face. I got atomic shit tested when I approach women. In my childhood, men formed groups to bully me to be sure to break my self confidence and because they wouldn't dare to do that alone.

Why should you set self limiting beliefs because other people are crap ? Why should you be afraid of approaching women when they treat you like shit ? Fuck them. Live your life. It's not about sex or sexual market value. It is about you and your value in your frame of reference.

And if you want an example of a small powerful man : Poutine

[–]Marcus11387 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good shit, thanks for posting. As a 5'6" guy, this is definitely applicable.

Leaders are attractive. Full stop. Doesn't matter if you're a leader of something seemingly silly, it still works. I ran a photography club at school - pretty nerdy, yeah? And yet that did wonders for my SMV, with girls always talking to me. I was still pretty BP back then and didn't capitalize on it, but it goes to show that you don't need to be a movie star to leverage your status.

[–]Bear-With-Bit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Throw a happy hour at a downtown bar. Get your friends together, tell them to invite their friends, so on. Do this every month or so. (I prefer every two months.) You'll have a nice "audience" after a few of these; you're the host, after all. I always make sure to get phone numbers or connect via facebook. I've been doing this for years, easiest way to meet HB7s-8s.

[–]1-drukpa-kunley-4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

The ugliest man in Uganda agrees with u/redpillschool

Ugliest man in Uganda fathers baby girl

The man has money and frame.
I told her that I didn’t choose to look the way I do and that if she feels I am a burden, she is free to live me

[–]desno0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Whenever someone complains about their looks/insecurities. This link should be shared with a reply "So what's your excuse again?"

[–]herefornow95 points points [recovered] | Copy

"women in my country aren't so desperate, they can get jobs and support themselves"?

[–]rafanadal144 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reality is a bitch. Some people get lucky with the genetic pool, others don't. People can start out with disadvantages in the SMV market. This is why OP is absolutely right though. While I'm 6'3 and white, you can bet that if I'm at some concert, the performer has a much better chance of scoring than I do at his own venue. There are things you can't change. However, if you let that get in your head, you won't be able to improve things you CAN change.

[–]psychonauticusURSUS4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy

Napolean Bonaparte was 5'6, became Emperor of France within a few short years after becoming a French General. In a few years more he conquered most of Europe and ressurected the Roman Empire.

Morale of the story - stop looking for reasons to blame for your failures and lack of value other than yourself.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Napoleon was an incredible leader and a fearless badass. After Napoleon escaped from exile and landed back in France, the king sent a whole regiment (several thousand men IIRC) to intercept him.

Then:

Napoleon approached the regiment alone, dismounted his horse and, when he was within gunshot range, shouted to the soldiers, "Here I am. Kill your Emperor, if you wish." The soldiers quickly responded with, "Vive L'Empereur!"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bad example tbh because didn't he get cucked, even while being ruler of the world? And wasn't it just because he was too busy conquering Europe and wasn't spending enough time with his wife? Women...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was before he became red pill aware and divorced Josephine because she couldn't bear him children.

[–]ShakaLeonidas1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Napoleon was slightly below average height of his time. Reportedly a incel and quite the misogynist(not the womanizing kind either). He's not the best example. He did maximize his ability to acquire power though. Of course pussy will slip on your dick here or there but he was not a pun slayer in sore of his social status.

[–]psychonauticusURSUS12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

He is a great example. He wasn't a slayer because that's not what interested him. He was Emperor of nearly all of Europe. He could have had any woman he wanted. That just wasn't what he was about.

[–]wewmon5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Napoleon wasn't an incel. He had numerous relationships his whole life. Even while married to Josephine.

Even during his fall from grace at St. Helena, he still was able to have a relationship with his own young caretaker.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nature is a bitch, being short is a very significant disadvantage. But.... Tom Cruise is kinda short, Demetrious Johnson is very short, Verne Troyer is ultra short. They all found a way. That is what men do, they find a way to succeed against the odds. Do something with your life, be a better cook than other people, make a shit load of money and go get a foreign girl from a poor country. Learn to fight, there is a reason MMA and boxing have flyweight divisions. Be a jockey or take up acting. Open up a bar or become a DJ. There are so many ways to increase your looks and status as a man.

I am not going to tell very short guys that it is not a disadvantage, it is. Even with that disadvantage you can come out on top. One of the most beautiful women I have ever seen is married to a very short guy that I know. This guy has status and confidence. He studied and worked hard and became a leader in his field. It is a good thing that RPS has opened this debate. There are many different brands of alpha, GLO has touched on this before. TRP includes the commandments of Poon. You need to concentrate on your mission (which always leads to improved status). Whining about being short in the game of life is pointless. Work on your status instead of moaning about your disadvantages.

[–]mhardhey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what did he study hard and become?

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[–]abbafishhead1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is going to sound like BS, but, if you're short, start a PE routine and get a big dick. I've never met a short guy with a big dick who had confidence issues.

[–]Snazzy_Serval1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hah, it's so unusual to hear people talk about PE these days.

It's hard to stay dedicated, especially when you aren't using it.

[–]TheReformist941 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im just going to leave this here, for all the male hamstering on this sub. Looks is the most important thing, namely in the face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFnJMPQow7A

FACE>HEIGHT/MUSCLES>GAME

Social Status/Game/Personailty are simply BB traits, increasing your aggregate RMV, NOT SMV.

[–]RIPelliott6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yeah I don't even listen to most of this website anymore when it comes to height. I used to think I was 5'6 but now I am more convinced I actually tower over everyone at 5'7 instead, at 25 years old, and my N count is at something around 60. And the past year solely 9/10's and above. No joke, I went on a date on Saturday with a 5-6/10 college hookup and I couldn't even go home with her for the easy sex, my standards aren't there anymore. And it's more than just being able to fuck bitches. I walk with confidence and even a bit of arrogance, and almost nobody looks back or says shit, man or woman. Dudes 6 foot 5 at the bar immediately pretending they never saw my glare when I see them checking out a girl I'm with. Now in fairness I'm Arab and definitely look like the type that carries a knife around on me (which, also in fairness, is correct). However, I always say that every girl gives you one free genetic failure - those of us who are short already have ours chosen for us. Doesn't mean you can't still kill it. If you are short and having no success with ladies there is something else not working. I shouldn't have to mention that I'm fit, interesting (musician, soccer player, speak 3 languages) and socially adept despite being pretty introverted. Also, FWIW, since this confidence spike, I have asked women how tall they think I am and most of them say 5'9. Keep in mind growing up one of the two major male sex symbols, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise, was 5'7.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dudes 6 foot 5 at the bar immediately pretending they never saw my glare when I see them checking out a girl I'm with.

They see your Napoleon Complex.

[–]RIPelliott1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not true, but whatever you want to believe big guy

[–]ReallyUnskilled points points [recovered] | Copy

Ah yes of course, a short dude just can't be confident just for the sake of it. Are you confident? Short man Syndrome. Ripped? obviously compensating. This line of thinking basically applies to everyting.

[–]RIPelliott1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Probably bothers him a shorter guy gets laid and he can't even get a date. No skin off our bones, bro

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pre-selection and social proof are everything.

[–]Need2LickMuff3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have a friend who is 5'. In Highschool, the only reason he got laid whenever he did (which wasn't a lot) was because he dealt and has a reputation of having a big dick. Even then, the girls would choose his taller friends over him.

Bottom line is short guys will never be a Chad like someone 5' 10" and up will be. Ever. It doesn't mean they can't get laid, it just means they need to adjust their expectations. There is a fine line between being 5' 8" 'kinda short', and 5' 6" and below 'short'. Unless you become some notorious and wealthy dude, like a black triad Dan Blizerian, you're better off mentally masturbating ways to direct your energy into things other than getting pussy.

[–]Alpacash3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

TRP should stop being obsessed with height thb.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're taller than everybody else when you're standing on a stage.

Can confirm, I'm just your average 5'10" guy that gets to tower over my crowd when I'm performing on stage in clubs and warehouses.

You're nothing special at a concert. Everybody watches you when you're on the stage.

Great advice. If you're not experiencing the social status you want - then do something about it. That's what I did, and devoted a couple years of my life into DJing and music production. Now I fly all over the world performing in clubs and warehouses as the center of attention. The only thing stopping you from success is yourself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I DJ just locally and it's a gold mine

[–]Buchloe1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's like fat bitches who have to develop personalities to compete with hot girls. If you're tall and sexy af, it takes minimal effort to game. If you're super sexy, girls will fuck you even if you're dumb as rocks. If you're short, ugly etc, it's just a hurdle to overcome in other ways. You have to BECOME someone instead of being given it.

There's wheelchair ridden, burn victim lobster men who found passion and happiness in life. Compared to that, none of us have much to complain about.

Make a gratitude list. Focus on what you have that you're grateful for, be proud of your good qualities, and add to the list.

[–]RetiredTimeHo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to BECOME someone instead of being given it

That's right. Make no mistake good looking guys have it easier, but guys who didn't hit the genetic lottery have to shut up and succeed if they want to get women on the same level.

Life isn't fair. Now get to work.

[–]AB1186-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

To anyone that says women won't bother with short guys has never heard of Bruno Mars.

[–]Fitness---thing11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

TBF Bruno Mars is a boss at several instruments, and sings. He's also rich.

[–]middobbo points points [recovered] | Copy

A bit pedantic I'll agree but I can't resist.

'You're taller than everybody else when you're standing on a stage.'

Standing on a stage does not make you taller. If you are 5'6 at sea level you are 5'6 at the peak of Mt Everest.

That being said I know what you mean. Maybe you should've said 'If you're standing on a stage you'll be looking down on everyone else.'

[–]prodigy2throw1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

OP wasn't trying to say you physically get taller. Not sure what point you're trying to make except for you're an insecure midget.

[–]middobbo points points [recovered] | Copy

I admitted it was pedantic. And stated I understood his point. What's with the white knighting? Looking for love from daddy?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Obviously you know what it means.

[–]middobbo points points [recovered] | Copy

I don't know, I thought I did?

Were you not trying to say when you're on a stage your higher (As the stage is elevated) than everyone else (who is at floor level). Thus making your shortness a non-issue.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, it means that tallness as a factor on your SMV is non-issue when you've got a captive audience or when you improve your SMV by other means.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe you're too short. Maybe you're balding. Maybe you're shit with social skills. Maybe you're fat, stupid, ugly and sad....

To the tune of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteKoSZt9lM

[–]Shakydrummer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's true. I may be 5'7 but my little quirk is that I get on a decent size drum kit and I outshine the fuck out of a lot of players just cause I practice like nuts and really make it my thing. I had girls taller than me asking me if I wanted to dance and what not. Good post, OP is right.

[–]VinsTheSpaceDriver0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My current LTR is 5'7. I m 5'6, SMV is way broader than height. You can't let your height stop you from approaching girl.

[–]Xkirbyx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for sharing this, I was really in a place mentality that I was questioning my daily grind. It was comfort(blue pill) trying to slip back into my regiment.

[–]do_it_or_leave0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This post is gold not for the height part, but for the tool not properly explored, finding your audience.

As someone whose audience were a bunch of gaming friends, you really got me thinking who could be my audience today, and what could i do to become 'audience-able' as I have no fun talent. Maybe I could volunteer with my engineering skills, but I don't know how it would turn up to be.

thanks man, great post, you got me thinking! Edit: This should be on the sidebar.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can't speak for adulthood, but in my high school the guy smashing the hottest girls is only 5'5". Keep in mind he is muscular (what you'd call a Manlet) and good looking. It's true that if he were taller he might do better, but if he were taller he wouldn't be nearly as muscular as he is now (teenager problems.).

[–]RedsideoftheMoon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Holy smokes Batman! Your post just helped me to articulate a feeling I was having

I always noticed I would get laid so much easier when I met women at a party where I had social status, or when I was networking (like at volunteer group, mixer, yoga, etc). I wanted to make a post about growing your social circle and networking because rapport building is so much easier that way but you just basically articulated it right there: it's captive audience

[–]shitlordvaldemort0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Height isn't everything. In fact, it means jack shit if you don't have game. I'm NFL linebacker size, 6'5", 250, gray eyed, nordic poster child. Prior to improving my game and overall self confidence it really didn't do shit for me. Now that I'm older, and have the confidence to not give a fuck, the height and size definitely helps, but people seem to think that being a big ass guy is just a free pass to pussy. It's not. In fact, before I got better at this shit, my running buddy was a 5'7", slobby looking guy who had a way with words and he would routinely beat me out going for the same girls. So I adapted, learned to approach better, and learned what not to do (which is as important if more important than learning what to do). People expect you to act like the alpha male king at my size and if you act in anyway in-congruent with that notion you get blown out even harder than a short guy who shows a bit of insecurity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your nothing special at the bar, everyone talks to the bartender.

Can confirm from my days working at a nyc bar. I was a young 20 year old getting pussy from hb8/9 23+ yearevery weekend. It was great.

[–]AskYouEverything0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One of my best friends is 5'6 even. It definitely affects his personality, he loves to drive the biggest truck and own the biggest saw. He's not particularly attractive either, but had a vibrant and very large personality. He's literally known in my county as the dude who fucks all the chicks. He's 19 legend has it his N-count is three figures

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Short dudes, look up Bobby Lee and go to his channel Tiger Belly. He's 5'3, mid 40s, has cool friends, successful career and a hot girlfriend as well as a history of hot girlfriends.

His frame is insane.

[–]TALzFGxawb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

my old roomie: 5'5", could only hold onto his 6'0 gf for 7 years, and only gets new pussy once a week now. poor guy

other old roomie: 5'7", 5'8" in boots, n count ~100. cries himself to sleep about it

sylvester stallone: short as fuck. bet he never fucked a girl in his life. (internet lists him as 5'10". i met him (shook his hand) when i was a teenager, and that's total bullshit. more like 5'5")

[–]Nyghtshroude0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I agree so much. This is why I partly became a musician. I'll tell you all some about me:

I'm about five ft nine and weigh around 149 right now. My face is average on a good day. I have a disability that makes my muscles weaker than normal and it also affects me in a similar way that Asperger's would. I'm a bit introverted. But I've learned to channel my passion and even frustration with life into my music. I am an aspiring bass player and electronic musician, using programs like FL Studio.

With a captive audience, I'm not 5'9. I'm fucking 20 ft tall on that stage.

[–]jamaicanmecrzy points points [recovered] | Copy

What if you suck a lot and can't find your niche

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes it's hard to find your niche. And sometimes you have to create a new niche, or improve yourself to fit one that exists.

That's why many here recommend lifting. It's the easiest one to improve on. Even getting a job at a bar should be pretty simple.

[–]Snazzy_Serval0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OK, so how do you find a niche that attracts women?

Me, I'm 35, white, 5'5, introverted and bit socially awkward. I work in IT. I have no attractive baseline skills. Needless to say women have been a bit out of my reach.

My hobbies are playing video games, watching anime, computer stuff and salsa/swing dancing. The only reason I got into dancing was to meet women which honestly hasn't worked. I'm a very slow learner when it comes to dancing and I'll probably never get beyond decent at it.

Over the years I tried to learn to skateboard, surf, play guitar unfortunately I never got good at any of them.

Right now the only thing I have left in trying to attract women is working out. Just the hope that a better body would improve my odds. Unfortunately the guy in the linked thread claimed to have a great body and that didn't help him much.

[–]Honduran0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know most people hate him but, take Bono from U2, guy is SHORT. But have you seen him command a stage? Guy seems to be 10 ft tall up there.

[–]SW98760 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is being short a disadvantage? Yes. Is it a death sentence? Absolutely not. Grow the fuck up. Status, game, and attitude are far more important

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll break your shins every 6 months for $1000

you'll grow at least an inch I promise or your money back

[–]Zeetch-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Using short celebs is a bad argument. Loads of cash is the ultimate way to get laid, women will sleep with a quad amputee burn victim for enough cash

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Using short celebs is a bad argument. Loads of cash is the ultimate way to get laid, women will sleep with a quad amputee burn victim for enough cash

So what you mean is using short celebs is a great argument?

[–]czech_man-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

Yes, being short sucks. I'm also balding.

I've gotten so much shit through my life for being short, and then because of my balding. Especially from one of my classmates. He was barely an inch taller, and yeah, he has hair.

I hate being short and balding. Too bad. I will always have it harder then taller/better looking people.

I'm going to work on myself. I turned twenty today. I'm beginning medication against losing hair in three days. I work out every day. I already have a better physique than 9 out of 10 people. I eat healthy. I'm a decent drummer. I read. I'm trilingual. I'm beginning a jiu jitsu gym membership tommorow. The neyt time my classmate tries to give me shit, I'm going to calmly warn him that I can kill him with my bare hands and to decide what he's going to say based on that.

[–]OPWills0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Looked through you're history. You're 5'8", or claim to be. That's not that short.

[–]bolupua0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

5'8 plus blading is very bad news.

Source: I'm 5'8 plus balding. Girls tell me I'm short, very often.

[–]LennMacca10 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I have a few remarks in response to this comment: 1) Are you sure you're a full 5'8"? That's about my height and I get very few remarks on it. 2) Man you picked the right instrument as far as girls go. I've played guitar since I was 11 (so coming up on 10 years now), and I don't get nearly as much attention as a good drummer haha. 3) I recommend not saying that to your friend. It's honestly kind of a weird thing to say to someone and he's probably just gonna spread it around to everyone and it'll be one more joke to make.

[–]czech_man0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I actually have a very dark personality. I realize that about myself. Not trying to brag.

And he is not my friend.

I know I'm not that short, but I always got shit for it. People need to give you shit to feel good about themselves. Sometimes you have to put them in their place. Holding frame or not, enough is enough

[–]LennMacca10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Alright man, ultimately it's your decision obviously. Just felt the need to say something, maybe I'm a little nosy. Hope all goes well brother!

[–]czech_man0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're definitely not. Thanks for your input. Have a good one!



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