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Drake University Expels Male Student Despite Female Admitting She Forced Him Into Sex Act

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Sandman616
April 5, 2017
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Well gents, this is my first post in this sub. Thought I'd share this story which I figured would end up here anyway.

Girl alleged sexual assault on a guy after he couldn't get it up when she tried to fellate him. Declined a forensic exam and was taken at her word. Dude got expelled a month before graduation because of it.

"There is zero physical evidence that there was ever an assault on this woman. All they had was her word"

These girls have no sense of responsibility. Never giver her an opportunity to "blame it on the alcohol", because you only leave yourself open to blame.

I'm sure whiskey dick didn't help his cause either. He couldn't fuck her hard so she used the system which is undoubtedly biased toward women to try and protect her reputation and absolve herself of any guilt for her actions.

And now this kid's life has been derailed for years because of some salty ho, a solipsistic moron with a hurt ego. Truly disgraceful.

Here's a link to Drake's student news article on the matter, which is much more comprehensive and contains links to court documents.


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Title Drake University Expels Male Student Despite Female Admitting She Forced Him Into Sex Act
Author Sandman616
Upvotes 987
Comments 172
Date 05 April 2017 01:44 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/42416
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[–]420KUSHBUSH215 points216 points  (111 children) | Copy

World's fucked. Might as well watch it burn and enjoy the view.

[–]widec133 points134 points  (66 children) | Copy

The pendulum is swinging back my friend. We should take a page from the SJW book and pressure Drake U to make a statement about this. We've already seen success in schools that did not let Milo speak, some of their enrollment rates plummeted.

[–]FatalTypingAccident points points [recovered] | Copy

i find it ironic the same faction foisting female-centric justice is also promoting islamification; what will happen when irresistible force meets immovable object?!

[–]NikoMyshkin75 points76 points  (13 children) | Copy

One theory I heard about this is that feminists hate western men because as a whole we have failed their colossal shit test. Muslims tell feminists to shut the fuck up with their total bullshit and thus they pass the shit test.

Also, let's be honest, it's mostly the unattractive female types that most loudly promote feminism. The exact same types that would benefit from the level playing field of beauty hid behind a veil.

[–]gazzaa225 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women just love to complain. It doesn't mean they want the opposite of what they complain about.

[–]zxDanKwan32 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

This right here.

If a woman is happy and doesn't have anything to complain about... she's not happy.

This is why women will leave the perfect man in the perfect situation saying some bullshit about finding themselves.

Women aren't able to look at things objectively, only in terms of relation to self. Therefore, they can't properly ascertain their own position in life without comparing it to something else.

Usually, women go for comparing themselves to their friends, but on regular occasion they try to do their best impersonation of objective self evaluation, and evaluate themselves based on their ability to get resources from men. Which they do by complaining to see who will rush to fix their problems for them.

Well... if there aren't any problems to have fixed, then women start harping on all the little bullshit- because that's all they have.

If, after long enough, no significant challenges are encountered, then the hamster foolishly starts believing that there must be no forward movement, rather than assuming that her man has all his shit handled.

This is why we have to demonstrate our accomplishments. If we speak about them, they're not real, but if we show them, then the hamster can't ignore that there is forward movement, and the woman is being sheltered from problems by the man. That's where she'll be encouraged to reveal her femininity to you.

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

unless it is a shit test and they want to measure the strength of your backbone

[–]Mckallidon0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Best comment so far this year!

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

It's not mine to take credit for...

[–]Mckallidon0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Yeah most of it was all textbook redpill but the idea of fat ugly bitches benefiting from the veil was novel to me. I had not heard that before. It's one of those things that was like whybdidnt I think of that?

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

because you think like a man

[–]Mckallidon0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Did you just assume my gender?

[–]NikoMyshkin0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

yeah. big whup. wanna fight about it?

:-)

[–]SILENTSAM696 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes and no. Try not to fall into the SJW mistake of lumping so many different people together under one banner for all those who disagree.

Those are often two seperate camps of left wing people. Most people on the left, or right, do not agree with everything considered left, or right, as an idea.

[–]jsalathe35 points36 points  (37 children) | Copy

The women will bow to the males that don't take shit - the Muslims. White men are all cucks.

[–]Mckallidon6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

The perception of the average white man is cucked. Peddled by the media. Fact is we are all spread across a few generations of real men that aren't represented in media. Most white men are not. It is just that no one is telling our story or using our narrative to brainwash people.

The average white dude is not as soft as the average hood rat. We forget that we spend so much time dissing MGTOW, SJWs, and TBP that we forget that it isn't the entire world out there. Maybe it's to feed our egos so we feel more special about ourselves in our clubhouse and life choices. Anyways. It used to be that all that was in the media and entertainment was our stories. Now we all know that they're just peddling BS narratives to push agendas.

Every tv show is some fat bald bitchehipped moron and a hot career mom that keeps it all going on spite of itself. Or a couple of sluts that plow through a bunch of chumps who get pump and dumped by real men but hampster it as them finding themselves or him being not ready for the awesome experience of betadom to some post wall cum dumpster. We talk about a gynocentric perspective, but that is part of building a fifth collumn. One piece of a bigger agenda. All of this is part of all the media that demoralizes us. The media that tells everyone e it's okay to be hedonistic animals and that white men are shit.

The cucked are far overrepresented. If this was false Hillary would be POTUS. The average white man wants Mohamed heads on pikes and 4 kids. It's just that the image of some effeminate hipster cuck is beaten into the public mind to demoralize the population.

It doesn't just fuck with our heads. It makes women deeply insecure and open too other stupid ideas the tv peddles. It makes people more compliant to the demands of a corrupt and declining nation.

Let it stay that way. Let all the degenerate parasites wonder how we took shit back out of nowhere so quickly. The paddlers believe their own lies now. Let all the degenerates and barbarians underestimate us.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's profitable to the media for it to sell feminism and anti-masculinity. It's the same reason why "women's products" in the store typically charge more for essentially the same thing - because women spend money like children.

[–]Mckallidon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what they sell for money. They really rip them off on selling them security in exchange for power. Women honestly think they'll be fulfilled later in life popping out kids from different men with Uncle Sam paying the bills, or even worst paying their own bills. Even career wealthy women secretly don't want that shit and wish they went the other direction, if they're even that in touch. It was more about destroying the family and dividing us as a people, making money is a bonus.

[–]AmeriStasi27 points28 points  (30 children) | Copy

I think at this point it's first to market. If you wait, other men will come and the women will submit to them. Might as well make them submit to you now, and reap the benefits. And yah, western men are cucked. Slavic men don't give a fuck about your political correctness. I remember I went to Iceland and had the tour guide complain about how racist the Slavic tourists were. Men who don't value their own kind over others betray their own fathers.

[–]RoxoViejo27 points28 points  (2 children) | Copy

Iceland is a feminist shithole, men are so brainwashed over there that they'll find pretty much any man that owns his masculinity offensive.

[–]1grubek10 points11 points  (26 children) | Copy

Nationalism is the consolation of the weak. I value people for what they give to me, not for stupid ego stroking ideologies. If those who give me value are from other nation so be it. Not going to give you a pass for sharing a stupid flag.

[–]Captain_Braddles13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, go and tell Donald Trump that his American nationalism is him consoling himself for being weak.

[–]1grubek10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Donald Trump exposes mild american nationalism because it fits his discourse. If you think he would buy american first just because for one of his business you are a fool.

[–]TheDeadlyZebra2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you meant *espouses

[–]Mckallidon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you think you're so smart you know either way how anyone you've never met ticks, then you're the fool.

[–]Velebit2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

sexuality and sex relations are about reproduction, reproduction is about genes and so is nationalism

individualism is an illusion

[–]1grubek2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

No, we humans are instinctively tribalistic, not nationalistic. Nationalism is a manipulative movement to tie our tribalistic instincts to the idea of a nation.

I like having a group of people I trust and with who I share, even if loosely, common cultural traits, my "tribe". I will defend that group from others. But no politician gets to treat me like a moron by thinking he can define who my tribe is. I decide who I trust and who I don't, and sharing a flag is a very stupid reason that only absolute morons will accept.

Also, political individualism does not mean going alone or not forming groups. Political individualism is a series of values which govern how people relate to each other and behave in a group. If you are going alone by yourself then you do not need political individualism. People often confuse the meaning of political individualism, with the common language use of individualism.

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

we humans are instinctively tribalistic, not nationalistic. Nationalism is a manipulative movement to tie our tribalistic instincts to the idea of a nation.

Precisely.

Also football. They use football to tickle the tribal instincts of the most base of men.

Interestingly, there is not something analogous to football teams for women. It seems that women already have their own perceived tribe, (apart from nationalism), i.e. the world-wide Sisterhood. That actually makes much more sense as a "tribe", than nationalism, since it does indeed care for the interests of its "members".

[–]Velebit-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tribe and nation usually overlap to a large part. It os about sharing genes. And political vs nonpolitical individualism wtf are u talking bout. You are comparing marcissism with individualism.

[–]Mckallidon2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

Nationalism is an expression of unity and strength. Only weak cucks don't respect their nation.

[–]brad_from_pemberton points points [recovered] | Copy

Nationalism is still group identity politics. Be proud of your nation, but only if you have a nation of individuals. Not a nation of demographic identities.

You're no better than SJW if you accept the dogma at face value.

[–]Mckallidon1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

No it's not. Toxic nationalism is. You project HAM and know nothing. What are you like 20? Lol.

Nationalism per se isn't predicated on any nation or group or individual. Pull your head out of our ass. American Nationalism is exactly about pride in a nation of individuals. That's why the left hates it. Get over yourself chump.

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[–]AmeriStasi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Toxic nationalism. Like toxic masculinity. Right?

/s

[–]AmeriStasi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why is individualism the only form of nationalism that is acceptable. Because it fits the American narrative? Poland is almost entirely ethnic Polish. Their pride is in their ancestors accomplishments. Not the accomplishments of foreigners with whom they share territory. Multiculturalism is marching young men to failure. Sweden first, others will follow.

[–]CommonSenseCitizen3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nationalism is the consolation of the weak

This doesn't make any sense. You seem deeply confused. Are you under 20 years old by chance?

[–]AmeriStasi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even if it's true, the unification causes an increase in power. So if the argument is that one is too weak, then you should advance strategies that increase your power. There's a contradiction in his point.

[–]AmeriStasi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So... If I understood your logic, weak people group together in gangs, and that gives them strength. Thus no longer making them weak. Sounds advantageous. And this is bad because?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lmao. Plenty of other guys (of all different races) don't take shit. I guess perspective really does matter. I can make broad generalizations based on race too, but they call that "racism," when a white guy says it.

take it easy, a salaam alaikum, whatever it is where you are.

[–]thetotalpackage74 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great question...feminists have convinced themselves that white men are the pinnacle of evil, so they readily embrace Islamic in its nascent, mostly benevolent form as it get's its foothold on the west. Since Islam and the west are incompatible - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Feminists worldview is so solipsistic, they believe the whole "Islam is just mis-understood" garbage the mainstream press puts out. They're in for a rude fucking awakening.

[–]2comment7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Modern feminism is a collective rampage by women seeking out that force which will slap it down. So Islam is its perfect marriage.

[–]regulator6190 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

If you are going to quote The Dark Knight do it right. This is what happens when and UNSTOPPABLE FORCE MEETS AN IMMOVABLE OBJECT.

[–]RPBulletDodger2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That particular quote has been around long before The Dark Knight my dude.

[–]regulator6190 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Possibly but regardless, it was still misquoted.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

No - sue them under Title IX for sexual discrimination.

There are legal teams that are doing this with some degree of success.

The biggest fight though is that instinctively everyone (men and women alike) believes "protect the honest wimmins from big bad men". It's a universal instinct and one followed by the courts.

Colleges are increasingly run by women and betas for the benefit of women. Men are losing out in higher education, which seems to be the intention.

[–]Luckyluke238 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

oh man... if i was that student. the amount of sueing i would be doing. would be to dam high. I would go after everyone. the women, the school, the person that made the decision at the school. the district board. EVERYONE.

I'd be so rich by the end of it i wouldn't need to go to school. I could just buy all the learning i needed

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm sure his lawyer is suing everyone he can possibly sue.

[–]Hwell150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yesterday I was watching the TV show "Cash Cab" and one of the questions contained a reference to MRAs that was pretty unbiased. It is great that the message is seeping into mainstream media

[–]Jake_le_Dog9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

It'd do better for you if you at least tried to change the way you live in the world. You should finally step past your anger phase and begin actually doing something. Begin doing challenging activities while you're still angry, don't spend all/every day on reddit. You really need to expand your comfort zone. Otherwise more despair awaits you.

After you helped yourself, you can help other people who are like you right now.

[–]420KUSHBUSH0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not angry, I was half joking. I'll still do everything I can to achieve a life I find happiness in.

[–]Jake_le_Dog8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think you still are.

It's not this comment that had me write to you. I've seen your comments a lot before, so I checked your post history to see how much you've actually been reading and understanding what you're reading. You have been visiting the sub for a long time. I am not one to tell you to hurry, but I see there's something missing from your arsenal. Maybe you haven't begun lifting yet, maybe you haven't read the sidebar yet, maybe there's something else missing.

Only you can know. But you have to begin doing those missing activities, because until then, many things you read here will look like hate material, and you too will think that way (it's a sort of confirmation bias). But once you understand the true depth of trp, life becomes so simple, you know what you have to do, you also know how rewarding it is when you act accordingly. You understand women, and men, and that everyone is just a human, just like you.

[–]420KUSHBUSH2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm starting to work out even more so and I don't think the things on here are hate material, just eye opening. I am acting over doing nothing but I see what you mean. Thanks.

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[–]OmegaMan213 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Think of your future earning potential. If that means avoiding college women then so be it.

Better to suffer a few years of celibacy than to have your life ruined forever.

[–]xx69bootyhunter69xx31 points32 points  (8 children) | Copy

This.

When approaching chicks I'd sure as hell be lying if I have no fear of rejection. But the bigger fear is of getting involved in a false accusation. Stories like these pretty much make it clear that when you're talking to a chick you're at her mercy. If she decides that she wants revenge on the male population for god knows whatever reason, or she's a mentally ill person aka a feminist, all she gotta do is call 911 and it's done and boom you're probably ending up in prison.

If it's America you get raped by in-mates. If it's my country India you get beaten the shit out of by the cops.

[–]patrickdaitya9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, you can't even be technically raped as a man in India under our judicial system: it doesn't even acknowledge it

[–]andhakanoon5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

you get beaten the shit out of by the cops AND THEN get raped by inmates.

FTFY. Just because it's never been reported doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[–]RoxoViejo1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

How is the situation in India? In the west we're made to believe that rape in India is rampant and that it's almost impossible to be convicted of rape as a man. Is that true, or is it more feminist propaganda?

[–]xx69bootyhunter69xx6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#India

Check it out for yourself. 2 per 100,000 per year. Compared to America, which has it at about 26 per 100,000 per year. It shouldn't really be surprising.

  • In the US women wear dress less modestly. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it's directly correlated with the rape statistic. It shouldn't really be surprising. Perhaps if you put Indian men with women who dress like American women, you might see a different rape statistic from Indian men, closer to the American ones.

  • Directly related to the above point, Indian women aren't nearly as attractive as American ones; come on, let's face it. There shouldn't be any doubt about that. Call it the lack of proper nutrition or health facilities, or that of genetics, women here hardly grow up to look attractive by any measure. And as fucked up as it might sound, attractive women are more likely to get raped.

  • America also has a single motherhood problem and the only upbringing single mothers mostly end up doing are those of criminals. That problem more or less is non existent in India.

  • As the Wikipedia page says, marital rape is not considered rape in India. It is up to you to decide for your own opinion whether or not it is rape. Should you decide it is, of course, I'll give you that may be it's 10 out of 100,000 per year. But I'm pulling that stat out my ass.

  • Lastly, of course, there may not be a 100% report rate going on. But even then, you really can't expect it go above American rate statistic, and certainly not above the Swedish one, supposedly the most feminist state in the world.

Whenever you hear rape statistics about India you'll always hear something like "x number of women were raped during one day/one week/one year". Notice how they'll never mention it alongside the fact that India houses one sixth of the world's population and if Indian men are like the rest of the male population, you SHOULD be expecting about one-sixth of all rape statistics of the world to be coming from this country. They never ever divide the rape statistic by the population. Blinding one very important truth about the statistic.

[–]aiguo8880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I wouldn't really trust statistics from a 4th world country where most people don't even have a toilet.

India is fairly conservative though and not apefrica tier violent.

[–]MagicGainbow2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's almost impossible to be convicted of rape as a man.

Bullshit, not to mention the fact that an angry mob might bust you out of prison and lynch you before you've even had a trial.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't you read the article? you don't have to have sex to get expelled.

[–]godfatherchimp8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

MGTOW is no guarantee you won't get hit with a false rape accusation. If a woman wants to falsely accuse you of it, she will. She can ruin your life even if you've never met her before.

[–]420KUSHBUSH3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Didn't mean celibacy. Meant with issues like these running rampant it's going to be hard to bring the world back to goodness.

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[–]Taguroizumo2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Are you there to get a degree or get laid? ( serious question)

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[–]Taguroizumo1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Good man. My advice is stick to your books and avoid any hook-up scenario that could lead to false rape claims.

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[–]Taguroizumo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Young women are always in their prime, when you hit your late 20's early 30's then you will understand the meaning of prime.

[–]yomo861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Listen to this man. You will pass for 24/25 for almost 10 years onwards if you live healthy and do not excessivly drink or binge fast food so fucking prime women is not a big deal especially if you made it to some degree.

Get a quick fix with some strange at college but never fuck the campus sluts. The odds are against you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

You should make every woman sign a consent form before each sexual encounter. And if she agrees, record each event too.

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[–]ArkAngelEV0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Don't bother entertaining dumb ass idea; a girl can retroactively retract consent - didn't you know?

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[–]ArkAngelEV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome to the desert of the real

[–]19yoManChild5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

Is he in despair or is he just a realist? It's egoistic to believe we can change the world, (as we would have to change a lot of opinions because a lot people believe the world is changing for the better in regards to Western social justice) but is realistic to live in the world and enjoy life as much as we can without hurting anyone.

[–]Sandman616[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Self-improvement and mentoring fall well with the realm of realism. You don't need to change the world, nor can you, but you have the power to influence your environment.

[–]alexclarkbarry1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

but you still can change the world for the better

[–]420KUSHBUSH2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

I was half joking. Still going to make the most of my life, just will try to avoid things like these.

[–]Sandman616[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

True happiness can be attained with the realization that you don't NEED a woman to be happy.

[–]1grubek1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't you?

Maybe you do not need A woman in particular, but don't you need women to be happy, to fulfill your biological imperative as a man? Would you be happy by being a celibate monk? I would not.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm just glad I got my degree in the early 00's before colleges went completely SJW. Oh, it was there. Don't get me wrong. But holy shit, nothing like today.

[–]everyone_wins1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We have the chance to turn this around. A defeatist attitude will not result in victory. As men, the fate of society is entrusted to our hands. Deus vult!

[–]LOST_TALE1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

keep calm and profit

Evade taxes to avoid feeding the vampires who enable this.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How is this not a cop out? Never understood the "enjoy the decline" choice.

[–]n0oo770 points71 points  (4 children) | Copy

I saw this post coming here on a rocket. The worst thing is the Dude AND his father got AWALTed, The dad was on the board of Drake, and he got voted off because he protested his son's expulsion.

[–]another_lease points points [recovered] | Copy

I don't respect the dad's explanation though -- the "depression" card. It's how the rich protect themselves.

[–]Sandman616[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh, the kid's beta as fuck for sure. But the article perfectly encapsulates things we need to be wary of when making our way in the world.

Maybe this would be better flaired as a BP example, now that I think about it.

[–]underdestruction2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

His defense makes sense from a legal point of view though. He's building a case that the son was never given a chance to defend himself properly which is an easier case to make.

[–]LordThunderbolt22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

He should just charge the girl with rape

[–]trevortackyl28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

We all know that the justice system doesn't work that way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls can't rape guys, right?!

[–]Charrington8417 points18 points  (7 children) | Copy

Can anyone give me a clear, succinct answer as to why, if this there was an alleged crime- sexual assault- the law enforcement system was not used? That's what I don't get about all these cases, why do school administrators handle crimes when they are not capable of handling them in the first place? By their very nature these cases should be sent to the justice system.

If a kid brings a gun to school with a plan to murder students, do these administrators handle that case too, or do they give it to police?

Do you see what I'm asking? How can they (administration) possibly think they are equipped to deliver justice? Unfortunately I think I already know the answer to that last question...

[–]7thAnvil11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

The "why" is because there would be no case as far as the criminal justice system is concerned (due to lack of evidence). But the males still need to be punished per the leftist logic perpetuated by the Feminine Imperative. If you want to know how these banana republic-like university tribunals came to be, Google: Title 9, Obama's Secretary of Education, letter to universities on sexual assault, and preponderance of the evidence.

[–]Charrington842 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well that's exactly my point, if it truly was a sexual assault, a rape, that is an extremely serious crime that needs to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Obviously, I understand your point from a red pill perspective, but I'm trying to view this from an average joe's point of view, or even that of women in college; if that college male did really commit a sexual assault, wouldn't they want him to be criminally prosecuted, and not just kicked out?

Maybe my problem here is that I'm just being too logical.

Edit: I've read paraphrased versions but I'll google that and do more research, thanks.

[–]KnockKnockKGB4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Huh, you're absolutely right. The article makes no allusion to any official investigation- even if the accusation here is a felony.

[–]Charrington841 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah exactly, we're not talking about cheating on a test here, or plagiarising a paper; sexual assault/rape is a serious criminal act and should be investigated as such, by authorities who are trained to do so.

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[–]cashmoney_x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine you're the school and you get hundreds of cases a year involving the police and girls crying rape. How does that look/pan out over the course of several years?

Exactly. It's about their own ass in the end.

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[–]1Sir_Distic19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

They all manipulate. All of them. And they all know they are doing it. I used to refuse to believe that was true. But I see it every day. 20 year old girls who seems sweet will manipulate guys into picking up heavy items for them. 'look at the heavy box, look around the room, look right at some guy. No smiling.' boom every beta in the room rushes over to help her pick up the heavy box.

[–]1nonthaki8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

And they all know they are doing it.

I used to think most of their manipulation is subconscious without them realizing it, arising due to their shitty biology, evolutionary imperative. Now, i am starting to agree that they all know each and every game they are playing ... and thats what depresses me the most . If it was subconscious, I could have lived with that cause I would have considered that women's nature.. their biology. But atleast some of it is planned and purposeful. I have seen that even my own mother calculates every move she does precisely, and often manipulates me and others to achieve her own means and ends . The funny things is my father too is like that, and I am too but somehow I am always exhibhiting the same personality (arrogant, proud, selfish whatever) . .. so its not that evil .. compared to women who are like chameleons who will change their personality every time ... according to the situation and surrounding, they are in to reach their own goals .

[–]1Sir_Distic3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely! I was like you. I used to believe it was "their nature" and done unconsciously. Nope. They know damn well what they're doing. And experience has taught them it works.

[–]1grubek61 points62 points  (13 children) | Copy

Women are driven by their natural instincts to reproduce, just like us. The difference is their reproductive behaviour consist on finding the best mate, unlike ours that consists on spreading the seed as much as possible. And to find the best mate they test mercilessly, even to the point of destroying someone's life. Even societies. But that's good. That's their role and mission, and that is how the weakness is weed out and the species survives.

The problem is our society has become extremely weak and decadent, probably because of the insane abundance and security we have manage to get, and women are going crazy testing and abusing the weak.

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You both made the same point just from different angles. Yes, her instincts are designed to find her the best possible mate. That's exactly what her insecurity and ego are designed to do regardless of what fantasies she may have about her own motives.

A true statement for anyone is that our emotions are incentives and disincentives to guide our behavior into securing a future for our genes; from within the context of the time and place in which these genes were forged. Since the modern world does not match the natural world it will be those of us who are self aware enough to control and direct their emotions and behaviors and intentionally decide to procreate that continue to breed progeny... That and idiots and zealots, but hey you can knock them for being low intelligence and useless but as long as there are no true cataclysmic challenges to overcome, the best are simply not needed anymore. In our world genetic success is counter what we're told is "true" success.

Example of a real genetic success(in our world under current conditions): Eats low quality readily available feed, consumes cheap products to pacify, grinds squishy parts with hard parts until many children are born, use social welfare, repeat.

Example of a genetic failure: successful man, extremely handsome, high intelligence sharpened to a fine edge, fit body, tons of women interested, always uses protection, may marry some day, doesn't want kids, has lots of money, independently successful, inventive,

Unless society changes and more people become aware our global IQ and standard of living will fall until the whole world is hell on Earth. Welcome to Idiocracy, but with a lot more starvation, rape, and turture.

[–]1grubek5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Going offtopic here, but you are assuming high IQ is the end all of human evolution (or almost). I am not saying it isn't necessarily, just pointing out its an unproven and (likely) self serving idea.

If low IQ people are out breeding high IQ people (which again is unproven) there might be a good reason for it and it is not necessarily the result of the world going wrong. When the reality contradicts ones ideas, it is the healthy option to assume the ideas are wrong.

[–]thetotalpackage77 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Low IQ people can only outbreed high IQ people in modern society because they use/need high IQ resources (food supply management/modern medicine/technology) to have their offspring survive. In centuries past, most of their children would have died. Case in point, the continent of Africa, which cannot even feed itself, has few major industries and is full of banana republics, was 5% of the worlds population in 1900. It is 40% now. Nature is cruel, but high IQ people are mostly benevolent and have helped low IQ people survive in modern times.

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Example of a real genetic success(in our world under current conditions): Eats low quality readily available feed, consumes cheap products to pacify, grinds squishy parts with hard parts until many children are born, use social welfare, repeat.

I never said anything is wrong with this. There's also nothing wrong with chimpanzees, and nothing wrong with bacteria. They're all just different forms of life. I personally prefer intelligent, creative, self controlled people who focus on things larger than themselves. I'd like to see humanity outgrow earth and travel the universe. That's just my take and what I personally value. Some people say that intelligence makes them 'superior' to others who are less intelligent, but if the purpose of each life form is to propagate itself, then only those who BREED are successful, and those who breed at the highest rate are indeed superior at propagating their genes to others who do not breed, regardless of how successful they were in a previous environment or how complex and beautiful they may be.

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[–]aiguo8880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Except in China, which is why China will take over in the future, although it has it's own set of huge problems, girls are extremely money and status concious and the family always demands kids.

While there are leftover career women, these aren't the norm and probably never will be as the family always pushes for marriage and kids.

Big cities in China are meat grinders as well but high IQ will prevail there while Europe already seems super low IQ for the most just a generation after the "liberation" of women in the 60s. The only people breeding in western Europe are local and muslim welfare receivers. Maybe 1 in 100 high IQ betas reproduces as most don't fit into the rigid social structure anyway that discourages independent thinking / behavior.

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[–]ArkAngelEV-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

don't blame fire for being hot

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[–]ArkAngelEV0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

holy shit blue pill faggot. Way to take that analogy out of context

[–]Sandman616[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

The ones that drink generally aren't good people. Find one who doesn't use alcohol as their plausible deniability and you greatly reduce your risk of backlash.

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[–]skoobled8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would try to console yourself with the fact that women are just like men in the regard that they will try whatever they think they can get away with. The problem is the system has let itself be absorbed with "women are wonderful"

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once i started viewing women as children, the world got a lot easier to understand for me

just view a woman of any age as a ~10 year old, and suddenly everything will make sense and you will know how to deal with them

[–]joseph1773 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is a real darkness in them;

Women are beta meat grinders (despise them), it's just their nature to keep men on their toes and further our species evolution. If fat ED prone betas had inclination for evolutionary selection, our species would be chumps.

Don't blame the player, blame the game.

[–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

It is easy to fall into this line of thinking, reading this sub daily.

But consider the shitty stuff other men do. Consider the shitty stuff you do.

None of us are saints. But engaging the adversary in ignorance is a road to misery, which is why this sub is helpful.

[–]lipidsly7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

It is easy to fall into this line of thinking, reading this sub daily.

Of course it is, when this shit happens more and more often.

"I don't like thing"

Thing happens at an increasing rate as people enable thing to keep happening

"Wow this really sucks, maybe it's an innate problem with thing"

you: "Woah woah woah, lets not be hasty"

[–]Cushions1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Increasing rate?

Innate problem?

Of course it's all you'll see on this sub. You don't get a full picture.

[–]lipidsly9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

What exactly is the "full picture"?

The divorce rate?

The increasing number of laws that assrape men financially?

The skyrocketing rate of male suicide after divorce?

The ability to convict a man of rape because you had a dream that he did?

[–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No, you're just bad at reading comprehension.

Either that, or you understood perfectly what I said and think that an attitude of hating everybody, include ourselves, is a reasonable mindset to have.

[–]lipidsly2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does recognizing a wolf will attack me with less provocation than a dog mean that i hate wolves?

And at what point does an "rare" exception become a common exception and when does that become the rule for you?

[–]1nzgs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't trust any man who claims to "like" women. They are children without the excuse of innocence.

[–]ronaldraygun9131 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Read the book of Proverbs. You'll feel sick when you next see a woman

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They are more like dangerous temptations that should be kept at arms length.

Yeah - so were bears and tigers. Our ancestors killed them with a wood stick so you'd be here. There is a weight and debt to the fact that you & I exist since we did not emerge into this world from another dude making a Reddit post.

[–]Zack97640 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I would say the only category of women this is not true is more traditional women.

[–]reecewagner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just look at the way the Bible and other ancient texts describe women

I'm not sure that's the route you want to go when searching for modern validity.

[–]spinalmemes-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ehh dont think like that. There is good in women, theyve just lost touch with themselves due to all the manipulation and propaganda in modern day society.

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All. Remember these words: buddy system and know your limits. If he's drunk, you stay sober, switch off. If your buddy is drunk pull him away especially if SHE is drunk as well. That's a Title IX/rape case waiting to happen.

The world don't give a fuck about you, you are male, there are a 100 more like you. If you have ADHD and suffer anxiety many will see getting rid of you as a good thing because they see you as weak, creepy and a waste of resources. Its not right or fair, it just is.

My son has ADHD and its is costing me a mint in meds & therapy to handle ADHD, social skills deficiencies, vision coding issues, anxiety that etc... that often goes with it. He'll never be a Chad, I'm spending that money so he can survive in this harsh world when I'm gone. I will teach him to watch his six and to never marry as he gets older.

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Read the articles. There are 3 sides to every story: his, hers, the truth. Not enough information to decide either way as to what really happen.

Title IX courts are Kangaroo courts, they do not care about the truth. They are there to protect the university from lawsuits and loss of federal money. Men are expendable, those men with disabilities are doubly so. You will get screwed.

Self Protection: 1) Party away from school. Don't shit where you eat. 2) Watch your six. Use the Buddy system. Wing men stay sober, do your friends a solid and cock block him if he's drunk. My platoon protected me from my own stupidity more than a few times. It saved my ass from all manor of trouble. 3) Know your limits. This kid got hammered booze and meds enough to black out. that's stupid. 4) Don't shit where you eat. Sorry local college chicks are off limits unless you a chad god thundercock. Chicks from another school go for it. Cuts down on the title ix kangaroo court opportunities.

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[–]Sandman616[S] 31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

"The world does not give a fuck about you. You are not special."

One of the most valuable lessons a person can learn.

[–]Ganaria_Gente0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The problem is that only males are hearing it. We need to teach it to females as well. Desperately.

[–]Sandman616[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's what we're learning to do here. Then the beta white-knights tell them how wonderful and amazing they are and the females are inclined to believe whatever affords them the least responsibility.

[–]aiguo8880 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

you can't just walk out of the fucking job

I did, in my early 20s already. If you think outside of the blue pill framework and can deal with living in 3rd world countries or remote places in first world countries, life is cheap and making a living as a self employed person is very feasible.

If you live in NYC or LA where you need 100k minimum just live somewhat middle class it's a whole different ballgame though, but realistically these places offer very little to MGTOW type guys who just want to check out of society.

[–]1Original_Dankster5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're going to do ONS, this sort of shit convinces me to use a fake name, burner phone and do it at either her place or a 3rd location (like AirBnB apartment or something).

If she willingly fucks you but then changes her mind, at least she can't accuse a guy she can't locate or identify. Probably would help with the OPSEC if you've got an LTR to keep your activity on the down-low.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Giving women equal rights and non consequences for their fuck ups was dumb fucking Rome and Greece taught us that already

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are super cucks. They had a fit over pro trump chalk on sidewalks and also declared themselves a sanctuary campus.

[–]Blunter-S-Thompson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lord Acton would like to have a few words with you....

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.

[–]2johnnight9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you give people power, somebody (let's say 1 per 1000) will abuse it.

TRP makes the error of generalization, in some cases. You can't generalize from an outlier to the general population. What you can do is talk about the risk.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

False. Most people will abuse given power. See the Stanford experiment.

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[–]2johnnight-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

If that was the case IRL, you would have thousands of cases of false rape accusations on universities and the problem would be obvious to everybody. We wouldn't have to discuss it.

Instead we have a handful of cases and they are infamous, precisely because they are rare and therefore stick out. Otherwise we would be talking in terms of statistics, not names of people.

p.s. We talk about divorce in statistics, which shows that in those cases the power (to divorce) is (ab)used massively.

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p.s. We talk about divorce in statistics, which shows that in those cases the power (to divorce) is (ab)used massively

That's sort of the point of the person you're replying to/arguing against.

[–]Mckallidon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would sue so HAM. This stinks like payday.

[–]brinkleybuzz1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

So a woman who drinks and has sex isn't responsible for her actions but if she drinks, drives and kills someone in an accident, she will likely be charged with a serious crime. How does that make sense?

[–]failingtheturingtest2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let's be honest. That poor woman is definitely going to tell a story about how she HAD to drink drive to escape a man who was trying to rape her.

[–]Sandman616[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hasn't that happened before?

[–]siege3423 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

How's that equality treating you?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What is that supposed to mean?

[–]siege3421 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meant she forced the sex and still gets to play the victim.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, thanks for the explanation.

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Fuck that guy. He paid money to go to a sexist college. It is like going to a rock concert and complaining that your ears are ringing. Any male who attends feminist schools deserves anything he gets. Same with marriage.

Edit - here is their board. Just think on this. Do some googling folks. It is not that hard.

[–]gabilromariz-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

If this happened in my school I would advise the guy to "cry rape". he was too drunk, unable to consent and was assaulted. I would then go after the school, suing for damages. Supposedly, any two bit lawyer could help contest the explusion if there is no actual conviction.

On the other hand, it makes me want to tell my sister to cry assault on every asshole I dislike at our uni

[–]rigbed0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Have your sister become a lesbian and do the same thing

[–]gabilromariz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know that many girls at uni (engineering)

[–]neetpepe-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

All rape allegations are false. So called rape is no different than blood libel.



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