Around 6 years ago, I started to listen to several podcasts of a man, who spoke about the nature of women and how to attract them. What opportunities to take, and what mistakes to avoid. His voice was nice, soft, calm, peaceful, respectful and inspiring. I agreed with anything he talked about, it made sense the more I listened to it.

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I remember several examples. My favorite example is letting the running away puppy just run away. The example took a puppy that started to run away once you took of its leash, and if you wanted to get it, initially you thought you would have to chase it and catch it. The puppy was faster, more agile, and you would just not catch it at all, and it will think it's a fun little game. The owners is freaking out, the puppy is having all the fun fucking with you. Then there is the alternative, where the owner keeps calm, assesses what the puppy is really doing, and decides to become the one to be chased if the puppy really desires him. So he hides behind a tree, but uses a mirror to keep track of what the puppy is doing. The puppy starts to freak out, starts looking for the trail of the owner and keeps looking for several minutes. The puppy was extremely happy that it found its owner again! The next time, the puppy did run around loose, but it clearly looked back to make sure that his owner was still there and it never ran away as it did before. Lesson: Don't chase that what runs away from you. Hide, and it proves whether its worth your time by watching whether it starts coming towards you or keeps drifting away.

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Other examples are how to keep women feel comfortable around you. Don't raise the pressure, don't push, even take steps back. Consider that a step forward might be another shit test. Girl invites boy over for a sleepover, but the guy notices it seems she changed her mind but doesn't say it. He takes the initiative by saying that he has to cancel unfortunately, and suggest they make plans a next time. It went roughly like this, the girl was relieved, asked him again next time with clearly more interest and they enjoyed the night. Lesson: Know when to take steps back, don't pressure her. Make her believe that everything that happens is her choice and she is completely in control.

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Boy meets girl in bar, they hit it off, everything goes right. He followed the advice of this man and just told silly stories when this girl asked what he does for a living. "Oh ,you know these little buttons in cars, with this little graphic on them? I'm design these icons!". Or replies "A red one" when she asks about what car he drives. Obvious ridiculousness and mystery is what attracted her. Then she wanted to kiss him, he lost his frame, nothing happened and it killed her attraction towards him. Lesson: Women don't care about facts, they just want you to entertain them. Girls just want to have fun! Women are an echo chamber of your frame and emotions. If you're a wreck, so is the foundation of her attraction towards you.

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There have been some other things he spoke about, which is already related to the examples above, such as being entertaining, keeping the mystery in the relationship (Where did he go? What is he doing?), being the one who is not needy, who knows when it's enough. A small example is him telling on vacation with his one night stand that he had to go and he had a nice time and the girl was begging him to stay in bed. Another example is where he scored a solid 9, their relationship was great, he did everything right with regards to frame, making her believe that she is fully in control (and therefore, you are the one being in control), and so on, the works. Until the moment where he thought after 6 months that they are very comfortable together and can get through anything, and decides to show her his diary entries of when they met. She read how she was put on a pedastal, how he couldn't believe that he met such a hot chick who is so amazing and was wishing for months before to date her and so on, the typical blue pill barf. The relationship died that day.

Then I came here for the first time while still being under the influence of the bluepill, I was disgusted of what I read and saw. I started to read around the toxic women hating comments and users, and started focussing on the endorsed users and those with points, which made more sense to me, I could just understand them better. They were better in control, they knew the truth but didn't treat anyone or anything like total garbage. There might not always be agreement, but there is always understanding.

And that's when I realized, that 6 years ago, I was learning about redpill from this man and I didn't even realize it. You could play this to anyone you meet and they would love it and agree with anything he says. Show them this subreddit and they would burn you. The presenation of the red pill is totally different, coming from one guy who knows exactly how to convey the idea versus a subreddit with a bunch of really good users similar to this man, yet is overwhelmingly littered with a bunch of betas that choke on the red pill and full of hate towards women which gives the entire community a bad name.