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The red pill is pro-rape if you take away the last eleven words from this sentence.

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May 10, 2013
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Society has reached a dead end when people who have never committed a crime, who have never been accused by somebody they've met, who have never been convicted nor arrested can be called a rapist, when the very people committing the crimes are ignored.

Hi, I'm red pill school, and I have never raped anybody. Not even spousal rape-- despite the myth which continues to persist that because we disagree with the term, we're actually out there raping our wives.

I've been labeled a rapist by feminists and a large majority of reddit who have heard of me, but haven't taken the time to read much of what I've written, or read what was pasted out of context.

Now, I'm not saying anybody needs to take sides. But let's face it: how much honor does somebody have to mislabel me a rapist when there are real rape victims that really exist. Seems to me, maybe there's more to these redpillers than they're given credit. Since, you know, they're not the ones wildly accusing everybody of rape.

Shame on you.


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Title The red pill is pro-rape if you take away the last eleven words from this sentence.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 67
Comments 34
Date 10 May 2013 08:51 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/4332
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1e3as1/the_red_pill_is_prorape_if_you_take_away_the_last/
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[–]TRP VanguardWhisper51 points52 points  (3 children) | Copy

Don't do this.

Don't go down this road. I can grasp what you're trying to do here, but the very act of addressing such silly accusations gives them traction they don't deserve.

To say "I am not a rapist" implies that it's a question worth talking about.

We do not run about saying "I am not a cannibal", because no one in his right mind is saying that we are. Well, no one in his right mind is saying we are rapists, either. Because to say that we are rapists is sufficient evidence that the speaker is not in his right mind.

And hence is not worth talking to, or about.

[–]otaking4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The thing that needs to be addressed though is how rape is treated, particularly in legal terms, and the severity of the punishment the same for brutal drug-fueled rape beatings and an alcohol fueled night grey area. (With both--life forever on a sex offender list--enjoy never having the job you wanted). I've seen first hand too many times the word and crime rape applied and--abused--in too many situations that do not deserve such classification. (i.e. a woman who had a fiance, hit on me, then slept with another guy after I turned her down--later claiming to be raped; a woman who went out to the bar, drank a lot with a guy, and was later 'raped'). It does a disservice to actual rape victims that have suffered--yet in those scenarios I described, these guys' lives could be destroyed--undeserving on the intense severity of the punishment, on par with the scum of this planet. Not to mention you can't have this discussion without being called a rapist or a rape sympathizer--which should be laughable, but sadly isn't for this discourse

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

and the severity of the punishment the same for brutal drug-fueled rape beatings and an alcohol fueled night grey area.

The drug in question in brutal drug-fuelled raped beatings is usually alcohol.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice, but I'm all set.

I'll be addressing a few PR questions in the near future. You don't have to upvote them.

[–]luxury_banana13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's classic propaganda. Everyone writing pro-male anything is being accused of these kinds of things with no evidence to support it. Why would expect any different from what /r/mensrights, various seduction subs and so on are getting?

[–]Hormander-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's typical women behaviour. There was a video of Louis C.K. explaining it very funnily.

Redpillschool should just ignore these accusations.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

how much honor does somebody have to mislabel me a rapist when there are real rape victims that really exist. Seems to me, maybe there's more to these redpillers than they're given credit. Since, you know, they're not the ones wildly accusing everybody of rape.

This goes straight to the heart of the matter. If rape is as serious as they posit-and it certainly is-then why are they so quick and lax about applying "rapist" to anyone and every thing? Wouldn't the feminist critique of their own actions that be that they're being disingenuous and at the same time trivializing rape?

Since that is the only conclusion we can draw, it's important that the feminist community begin taking rape seriously and to stop trivializing what the victims have been through in their attempts to illegitimately silence and marginalize people they don't like.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The word "rape" has lost it's meaning to feminists. When I heard the term "birth rape" I had to laugh. My sister was raped, for real, and ten years later, hasn't had a healthy relationship with a man, she gave birth to and abandoned her child 2 years after she was born, and has never been faithful to any boyfriend. She still bears the pain, and it has fucked her life up. Hearing the word "rape" used so flippantly to assuage the guilt of a bad sexual choice of the average entitled western womyn makes me see red.

[–]itsmehobnob9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

These are lazy people that think they are making a difference fighting the good fight. They are the same people that think clicking 'like' on a website helps capture a warlord.

[–]MSoftHarem[M] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hi my name is SoftHarem and I have been labelled a rapist.

[–]Wally_B5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

hi, SoftHarem

[–]Gobbledig00k3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

We're all here for you, now, take this non-gender specific speech pillow and tell us how you got here.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

EXCUSE ME?

You're "handing" him a "pillow?"

Sounds to me like "pillow" is a euphemism for PENIS.

Your comment is literally rape.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi my name is Son-of-Man and I have been labelled a rapist.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know man. The whole "feeling-as-crime" industry is taking over the world and whenever a woman says to me "my ex abused me", I give them a smirk and next them.

[–]Gentle-Mang7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

I haven't been called a rapist yet, but I have been accused of 'trivializing her rape' because I dared to think that rape was a heinous violent crime, rather than thinking of it as an umbrella term for any kind of sexual act that a woman might feel bad about at any point for any reason.

Having such a lax definition of rape probably makes me a 'rape apologist' to these people.

[–]brosephbroebbels13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

You implied that it wasn't a big deal that a man had sex with a woman who he thought was asleep without her consent.

That is 'trivializing her rape.'

The fact that there are violent rapes doesn't mean less violent rapes should be brushed off.

[–]Gentle-Mang1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The incident she described where she had sex with a guy, felt bad about it, said she didn't want to do it again... but still thought it'd be a good idea to go spend time with him and sleep in his bed. This shit is so ambiguous and questionable that even she wasn't sure if she'd been 'raped' or not, so much so that she felt it necessary to create a thread and ask Reddit, upon which everyone jumped on the bandwagon and said "Yes of course it's rape, you're a helpless victim! Here's a pity party for you!"

That is trivializing ALL rape.

That is making it hard for real victims to be taken seriously

That is creating a culture in which we do question and blame the victims of rape, because the term is now so ambiguous.

Do you really think that a rapist does what he does because he can't get laid any other way? You think a rapist holds a knife to a girl's throat and humiliates her and beats her up because he's having no luck on OKCupid? A rapist rapes for the same reason that a kleptomaniac steals, they do it because they like the crime itself, not because they particularly need the thing that they take. Violent rape deserves to be called rape, the act and the people who perpetrate it deserve the stigma that the word rape carries.

There's not much you can do to protect yourself against being the victim of a violent crime, because the motive is violence, not sex. That's why you see girls holding up signs saying 'this is what I was wearing tell me I asked for it'. Meanwhile you've got girls who are dressed like sluts inviting sexual attention from men, refusing to take responsibility for their own shitty decisions, and crying rape because someone pinches their asses. Or they wake up in bed with some guy after a night of heavy drinking, feel bad about it, and decide to cry rape instead of taking responsibility for their shitty drunken decisions.

People try to dilute the meaning of the world rape, or move the goalposts on what rape is, or they try to muddy the water with very esoteric discussions about what is and is not 'consent', or when someone can give consent, or what revokes consent, or what implied consent is. The feminist blogosphere is full of this bullshit... But none of them seem interested in reducing the stigma that the word rape carries to match their new definitions.

The point is that real violent rape is a crime of violence, it's not even in the same ballpark, it's not in the same league, it isn't even the same sport as what that woman described. What she described was an ambiguous and questionable scenario, and that's when we heard her side of the story. She's perfectly entitled to regret what happened, she's also free to accept responsibility for putting herself into that position instead of expecting some guy that she's already slept with to just take her word as law and not assume implied consent or make any moves at all. But no, Reddit thinks that instead you have to have explicit consent from a woman to touch her or do anything, because women are heavenly creatures and sex is a gift from heaven.

There have been times when I've had a girl in my bed and I've woken her up and we've had sex. One time I thought the girl was awake because she was moaning in response to my touch, we started having nice gentle morning sex. We came, and later she told me later that she didn't remember when I had started, and that it kind of blended into her dream. I didn't have explicit signed and notarized consent for that act! Am I now a rapist? I don't even know anymore. Thankfully she didn't think so, but maybe if she'd made a thread about it on Reddit she'd have known just how much of a victim she was.

[–]thecajunone-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That thread. I too questioned whether she was actually raped and promptly received several death threats and multiple accusations that I supported rape. I couldn't believe the unadulterated blind rage-stupor people flew into, I mean the things I was receiving in my inbox...you would have thought I raped her.

I have to say this. In my opinion there should be no question in your mind whether you've been raped or not. You don't fucking ask reddit, have I been raped? No. You fucking know beyond a shadow of a doubt if you have been raped or not. That shouldn't be a question in your head, if you've been raped, you fucking know it. If you are questioning it yourself then it's questionable. That's just my thoughts on it anyways.

[–]luxury_banana2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have a strict definition, actually. They have a sort of nebulous definition precisely because they want to falsely equivocate all sorts of things as something as bad as that strict definition i.e. they want to use the word rape as a clearinghouse for any kind of sexual encounter that was not to the woman's complete satisfaction and turn around and have that accusation of rape amounting to "he didn't call me back" or "I got caught cheating on my husband and need a convenient alibi" to carry the same weight and legal clout as "he put a gun to my head and told me he'd blow my brains out if I didn't do what he told me to."

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi my name is n0c0ntr0l and I have been labelled a rapist.

[–]baconOclock1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm sorry dude, I know what happened but what you're doing is wrong and counterproductive.

The problem is you're now reactionary, on the defensive and buying into their frame.

Who gives a shit? You're a man, you control the frame.

If someone accuses you of false things, just laugh and treat them like irritated children.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your concern is touching, but misplaced.

[–]Deldar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whale, whale whale let's not turn this rape into murder.

[–]lifewrecker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly, fuck the fucking fuckers who label you. They're too far gone for help.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi my name is --- and I have been labelled a rapist.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I often think they don't know what rape is. Throwing this ridiculous accusation around is extremely insulting for real rape victims.

I've been called misogynist and pro-rape. Both are ridiculous, both are not true. I would never physically overpower a woman and fuck her against her will. Ever. Guess if you don't bow down to female imperator you are a woman hater. Go make a post and say that 30 year old women will make great wives after riding carousel for 15 years, no pre nup, on the female dominated subs, and they will mod you right away ;). Fuck men, right? We all can afford divorce and we do live to make you all happy, our precious flowers.

Can't say I give a shit. They are retards and would never say it to your face. You are a mod and a face of this sub so you probably have to make a stance. As for the rest of us, it's best to not acknowledge these tards.

[–]RedSunBlue-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think rape is rich with comedy gold.

[–]iamme2 -1 points-1 points [recovered] | Copy

Excuse me redpillschool but rape can't really be eradicated as sexual assault is not common but it's still not uncommon either, not to mention it might be really scary confronting an actual criminal. In a way there's nothing to be done about this criminal activity that hasn't already been done. Maybe a woman could watch her surroundings and who she's around to reduce the risk but that's a little too much work and too little entitlement for a princess. Maybe there should be a lot more support for victims of rape? Oh wait we already took care of that.

What is there really to do?

The point is as an overly sensitive, paranoid male feminist how will I express the manufactured outrage built up inside of me from my refusal of accepting the harsh realities of this world except to go around and point the finger at any man I feel comfortable confronting about being a little too sexually forward and open for my taste like yourself? You seem to claim you enjoy engaging in intercourse and I frankly feel very safe on the intewebs to call you out on it. It would be a little scary calling out those mean looking guys in the club who aren't shy.

/s

[–]PinkfloydPurplefloyd-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

...I was just about to call Poe's law on this one.

[–]p3ndulum-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi, my name is p3ndulum, and I was born a rapist.

[–]AlwaysLateToThreads-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi, I'm AlwaysLateToThreads, and I'm Schrodinger's rapist.

[–][deleted] -2 points-2 points | Copy

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[–]AlwaysLateToThreads-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like this term.



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