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Today I asked a woman to stop looking at me and was accused of sexual harassment

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by ShrimShrim on /r/TheRedPill
29 September 2017 08:26 PM UTC
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So I'm in the library studying for one of the hardest classes I've ever taken in my life, and I can just feel these eyes on me. I turn around and there is a girl fixated on me, waiting for me to say something. I ignore her for about 20 minuets but can't take it anymore.

Me: Not to be rude, but I can't focus right now because I can feel you starring at me.

Her: (visibly shocked) Excuse me?

Me: I'm trying to focus on this work right now and I can't because I can see you're watching me.

Her: That sounds like a personal problem.

Me: Well, its not. I'm just asking you to divert your attention.

Her: I'm not hitting on you, I'm just watching you.

Me: I didn't say you were hitting on me. I asked you to stop.

Her: Are you nervous?

Me: Wut?

Her: Does my starring at you make you nervous?

Me: No. You don't make me nervous. You're being creepy and I'm asking you to leave me to my work.

She is quiet for about ten more minutes, scheming a way to turn this into something she can use.

She gets up from her study table and walks over to mine.

Her: I'll just have you know, that accusing me of being creepy is actually creepy. You didn't need to make this sexual. I'm not interested in you, and you don't seem to realize that. I don't tolerate sexual harassment.

And then she walks away



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Title Today I asked a woman to stop looking at me and was accused of sexual harassment
Author ShrimShrim
Upvotes 752
Date 29 September 2017 08:26 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/46255
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522 upvotesMattyAnon2 years ago

It's tempting to say "you should have recorded it", but sadly noone would care and nothing would happen as a result.

It would be spun into you being the problem anyway. "So you walked over to this girl, unsolicited, and then asked her to change her behaviour?"

For future reference OP, your approach was too reasonable, which women interpret as weakness. You might try instead "Stop staring at me" rather than declaring yourself "not rude" to start with. And don't give reasons why ("I can't work because"). Avoid logic, avoid calls for reasonable behaviour, instead tell her what to do or what not to do.

1 upvotesShrimShrim [OP]2 years ago

Definitely said too much. I'm incredibly stressed out and staying stoic takes practice I don't have.

106 upvotesshaggyctes882 years ago

developing stoic values and Laconic responses is hard as fuck anyway dude, keep working on it, we all need it

38 upvotesTheYekke2 years ago

Looking up, deadpan, lock eyes then radiate I HATE YOU

Worked for me in India, where thousands of locals of all sexes and ages will stare at you from 2 feet away.

1 upvotestomy292 years ago

Sounds like a sweet way to get your ass kicked in a foreign country.

20 upvotesblaqsaqattaq2 years ago

India is the last place I'd expect locals to be able to kick my ass

13 upvotesPillDragon2 years ago

Yup thats India. But the mob mentality is crazy here. Can go from worship to outright group assault in a blink.

1 upvoteskkultimate2 years ago

Then you are either in the posh areas or havent actually seen our lynch mobs .

2 upvotessanskritam2 years ago

It's something we learn growing up👍

12 upvotesfromthecrypt82 years ago

So could you examplify how would be the best way to handle this from a stoic perspective?

Perhaps rewrite the convo to how it ideally would be handled?

Although I think you handled it well, her spinning at the end shows if anything that she indeed was interested in you, but got wounded when you shot her down. This is the kind of girl that would yell rape after regrettable sex

10 upvotesRian_Stone2 years ago

and stop DEERing

15 upvotesGlennus6262 years ago

So, it WAS a personal problem.

-10 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Lift, eat right, sleep right. Once those are in sync for a week or two, self control becomes a decision. I'm stoic af, calm and collected 99% of the time but when those three things get out of sync, so does my self control. One does not decide or 'try' to be more stoic or to have more discipline, they take action to ensure they WILL have them.

32 upvoteshtbf2 years ago

At that point, it's easier to just go, grab her number and tell her you'll car her when you're free. Pretty sure she'd stop staring at you then.

9 upvotesHltchens2 years ago

Then enter her number into a bunch of free cruise giveaway calling lines.

3 upvotesBear-With-Bit2 years ago

instead tell her what to do

If OP did that, she might have splooshed and skidded off her chair.

1 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

your approach was too reasonable

tfw being reasonable = being weak

1 upvotesaanarchist2 years ago

i've been noticing more and more that being civil and reasonable with many women simply doesn't work. just yesterday i had a girl blow me off pretty much because i didn't immediately start slapping her around after she showed some interest. your average woman is so imbalanced that if you aren't full on dark triad psychopath she'll try to put you squarely in the beta category. even amused mastery doesn't matter you have to chad her or gtfo.

1 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

that is fucked up. seriously.

1 upvotesaanarchist2 years ago

ultimately it's the fault of beta males for making it possible for them to behave this way without consequence. she's going to find some idiot to pay her way, give her a steady stream of validation and resources in exchange for letting him lap up some thugs cum from her pussy every now and then.

0 upvotessyf3r2 years ago

/u/mattyanon thanks for this bit of advice. it's applicable to my current situation. I've been lifting and have caught the attention of 4 girls. anyway I set up logistics to meet with each of them. and I try to apply what I learned here in text messages. of course it feels a little unnatural for me. but what you said is like a eureka moment for me. this is the mindset needed to go from faking it to embodying it.

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210 upvotesTryhardPantiesON2 years ago

Her: I'll just have you know, that accusing me of being creepy is actually creepy. You didn't need to make this sexual. I'm not interested in you, and you don't seem to realize that. I don't tolerate sexual harassment.

Funniest shit i have read today.

141 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Masterful reframing... We should actually learn from this.

132 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Yeah but it took her 10 minutes.

252 upvotesmenial_optimist2 years ago

Her hamster had to be rebooted in safe mode

12 upvoteszayelion2 years ago

I have to agree with all the above.

33 upvotesWolfofAnarchy2 years ago

Fucking lmao, how do you come up with this stuff.

4 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

hah. One of the better lines I've read here in a while.

1 upvotesBear-With-Bit2 years ago

I bet you fuck in hamster mode.

8 upvotesMuhTriggersGuise2 years ago

"Masterful"? I think I first heard this from Pee-Wee Herman. "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?"

5 upvotesa_aniq2 years ago

1st step: Throw logic out of the window

3 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

She admitted she was staring at him. At that point she lost all ground. OP did make a mistake though, you don't actually bring this to someones attention. Even women don't do this when some cuck is undressing them with their eyes.

In this world you will be stuck with many uglies eyeing you if you have good SMV. Perhaps even some gay men if you have a bad day. The only thing you can do is to simply walk away from their environment. The moment they keep following you you can accuse them of stalking.

But until that moment, simply looking at your direction isn't a crime and you can't raise that argument.

313 upvotesStarcruiser282 years ago

she had the hots for you and you shot her down, pre-emptive strike, she couldn't handle the rejection, typical female, especially if she was somewhat good looking, she couldn't understand the rejection.

44 upvotesdr_warlock2 years ago

Lol, he called her 'creepy'. Women believe that word is for men exclusively. He gave her an unattractive male shaming term, ruining her perceived image to the max. As soon as I read that I chuckled because I knew it would piss her off.

14 upvotesDetectiveDing-Daaahh2 years ago

That's why I avoid female-gendered nsults if it ever comes down to it. "Then stop acting like an asshole/dickhead/prick!" always seems to scramble their thought process for at least a couple of seconds. Plus the usual "Bitch, cunt, etc." screams incel.

3 upvotesdr_warlock2 years ago

Never thought of that. Gonna try it out. I smirk with anticipation.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Great point. That's some good advice right there.

106 upvoteskireol2 years ago

This.

With a helping of "I'm not responsible for my own actions, so I need to create why this is his fault."

35 upvotessh0ckley2 years ago

"I'm not responsible for my own actions, so I need to create why this is his fault."

The next time someone asks what does AWALT mean? THIS.

15 upvotestrees_away2 years ago

It’s hard not to get frustrated by this, but at the same time AWALT so it’s like getting frustrated at the ocean for knocking down your sand castle: You knew the waves were coming yet you built it there anyways.

I had to block an ex last night for this very thing. It’s just sad.

6 upvotesMars_Darinder2 years ago

Damn bro, that is a legit observation. So true.

5 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

2 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

When women feel or fear a rejection coming, their first instinct is to reject you themselves.

8 upvotesmaplemaximus2 years ago

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8 upvotesmaplemaximus2 years ago

He's not obligated to make her feel comfortable. She's staring mate, that's not how you handle approach.

Someone with no comprehension of proper game would find OP's reaction upsetting because their "game" is just staring.

2 upvotesCQC32 years ago

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2 upvotesCQC32 years ago

I agree it was overkill and its really not a big deal to ignore someone, he took a risky action.

I greatly feel like if I wanted her to stop I should just do something retarded as fuck that would surely make her think less of me or at least dry the attraction up. So I'd just probably look at her and make a retarded face squinting my eyes and making beaver teeth kinda like that racist chinese stereotype of a character in old cartoons.

But fuck me it'd make her more interested knowing how shit works backwards. Anything you do to make a girl like you less ends up making her more attracted.

3 upvotesSick_dick_4evr2 years ago

A more direct approach of confronting the issue head on is completely reasonable. If the gender roles were reversed in this exact situation, I think you wouldn't have an issue with a girl handling it the way OP did. I see your Seduction 101, and raise you Upbringing 101, "It's not polite to stare" is what I believe most parents teach their children. If you're going to put yourself out there like that, be prepared to get rejected. My 2 cents anyway.

12 upvotesToTheMewn2 years ago

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12 upvotesToTheMewn2 years ago

Turn your head over to her at a very slow but constant rate, lock eyes for 3 seconds, and then turn your body in your swiveling office chair at the same rate you did with your head, but don't break eye contact, and try to keep your head as still as possible for maximum effect. Then you say, "Hi there!"

147 upvotesAuvergnat2 years ago

Nobody takes sexual rejection well, but women absolutely hate it.

This is because evolutionary their entire value to the species is their value as a sexual mate. Where men's SMV is due in part to what they do, which can be used to compensate for a lack of sexual attractiveness, women cannot afford to be seen as sexually unattractive. Their entire status depends on it.

That's why everything women do is about affirming their sexual attractiveness to men. And that is why they absolutely hate sexual rejection.

That's why the hamster in OP's example went into overdrive to reframe the situation as "him hitting on her".

And that's why you want to be extremely careful when you reject a woman, since doing so is such a massive issue for her. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" is an expression dating from the 17th century. This is a timeless truth. Be careful how you frame your rejections.

16 upvotesRob_Dead2 years ago

A missquote but true nonetheless.

"Heaven hath no anger like love to hatred turned, nor hell a fury like a woman scorned".

15 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Women don't take any kind of rejection well but I wonder if it does all boil down to sexual rejection. Women are known to suffer more from impostor syndrome and it's little wonder why. So many women in higher positions are not actually good, they just got men to do their work for them. They survive on giggling their way through every situation. But they kind of know this. So every rejection they get they think it's because they're not attractive enough.

7 upvotesthrowaway894290932 years ago

100% fact here. Worked with a girl on a project at college thinking 'her resume looks great, this should go smoothly' NOPE. She was always trying to flirt or make excuses so that I'd never notice that she did nothing..I ended up doing all of it and getting her kicked off but she still got her 3 internships at the biggest companies in our field...wtf?

0 upvotesyxngdrilla192 years ago

I completely agree with this. 2 years ago, when I was new to a school, an incredibly fat girl said that she liked me. I rejected her brutally lol (maybe because I was offended that she even thought she could have a chance with me.) Then she started crying and all her friends started hating on me. "Why'd you make her cry!" It made me look like a a massive dick but oh well. If she had rejected me theres no way I'd have fucking cried. You just move on as attraction in non negotiable. I don't regret what I said. Honesty is the best policy.

EDIT: Before I was a really direct and blunt person. I didn't understand that what I said could have been devestating. I've learnt to be more sensitive to people's feelings and not be so abrasive.

6 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

I've rejected fat girls before too. You want to reject them in such a way that it does not affect your repuitation. Either do it very nicely and say that you are really busy with school, but in other circumstances you'd totally be down (I've literally said, 'its not you, its me') or you start acting beta as fuck and undecisive so she rejects you. win-win

1 upvotesyxngdrilla192 years ago

Note taken bro. I need to be less direct sometimes.

2 upvotesyxngdrilla192 years ago

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2 upvotesyxngdrilla192 years ago

As I said this was 2 years ago. I've become more emotionally intelligent human and looking back it wasn't the best course of action. I'm young and I still have a lot to learn.

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33 upvotesLateralanouncer2 years ago

She stoped for ten minutes and thought about how she was the victim. Now her friends can help her through the hardship.

24 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

Ten years from now she'll tell it as the time she was "almost raped."

7 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

Duuudddee, you don't know how true that statement is.

There's shit flying around my uni right now, because some stupid bitch claimed she was 'sexually assaulted' (no details of course) by the guy running for vice-president in student council. I highly doubt he sexually assualted her, as it is a decently attractive dude (not a chad, but he dresses well and has good grooming) who probably doesn't lack in female attention.

To me it seemed like she was:

  1. looking for attention/sympathy
  2. deluded herself into believing she was 'sexually assualted' (that term can mean anything you want it to mean)
  3. maybe they met up and the dude was uncalibrated/didn't hear her say stop in the heat of the moment.

Now there's white knights 'investigating' the matter and various other cunts offering her sympathy, saying that they are 'survivors of sexual assualt' and 'have been raped multiple times' (highly doubtful, because these be rich bitches who live in rich areas and who hates her ex).

21 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Eye rape, coming soon to a college near you (but you can only commit it if you are a man)

2 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

The only time a woman ever accused me of looking at her (and in that instance I wasn't even looking) was this time in public transport. I life in the suburbs of my city and it's filled with mussies. This one unattractive Spongebob body shaped hijabu girls suddenly and very angrily asked me why I was looking at her.

I wasn't even aware of her existence. When I told her this she took offense to me not looking instead of me looking. Even oppressed Islam girls are batshit I guess. Hot girls generally never do this, probably out of fear because they hate it.

Still I think it's something women handle pretty well compared to what OP did.

82 upvotesslumdog-millionaire2 years ago

what a fucking bitch, I feel like you said too much though dude, If you weren't interested I would've just said hey can you stop staring at me please? thanks. no need to explain shit to her

I had a girl eye fuck me like this once when I walked into a lab at the start of a semester in college, I flirted and got her number later and called her and she replied to my advance by saying please stop.

If you don't want to get hit on don't fucking stare at people cunt

36 upvotesii_misfit_o2 years ago

Especially don't give them your fucking number lol

20 upvotesfromthecrypt82 years ago

She probably just wanted the attention without offering her vag. There're plenty of attentionwhores out there unfortunately.

1 upvoteswrong_assumption2 years ago

What if OP looks like a clown/is a midget?

3 upvotesOneInAZillion2 years ago

no need to explain shit to her

This is true as a generality, but once he asks her to stop staring at her, she'll inevitably escalate the situation into an actual conversation/argument. And now he's boxed himself into somewhat of a confrontation in public with a woman which is never good for a man since men are always the aggressors and I hope that poor young lady isn't too shaken up by how that rapist assaulted her!

LPT: Don't get into a confrontation with a woman in public. Everyone will always be on her side and you'll just look like the asshole, regardless of the context.

2 upvotesDragon_Garoo2 years ago

This is a thing; I was thinking about it during the OP. Some women enjoy rejecting men so much, that they elicit attraction and approach, just to shoot them down. I'm sure there's a pscyhological term for it. I've seen my ex do it, then fuck the guys later. It's like, you add them to your plan b roster, but boost your ego in the here and now. And guys being guys, will likely fuck anyways. lol.

1 upvotesI_Need_More_Space_2 years ago

Holy fuck! I never could imagine such behavior. Wow. I'm genuinely surprised.

39 upvotesMizterUltimaman2 years ago

That's how crazy girls flirt. Next time, either give a soft reject, or make a move on her.

22 upvotesTall_Irish_Guy2 years ago

Shouldn't have said anything drama queen.

24 upvotesAlphaGrad2 years ago

Dumb, dumb, dumb approach to solve this. Women never respond to overt communication unless you're famous and/or visibly rich.

2 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

Even then, have you ever met a girl who talked real talk, like ever? They can't resist using power talk because shit testing is at the core of their interaction with men. And even other women.

1 upvotesAlphaGrad2 years ago

Even then, have you ever met a girl who talked real talk, like ever?

Yeah, when there's some serious danger, or an emergency situation, every female sets aside the bullshit and accepts her inferiority...even verbalizing it.

2 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

Good point. The funny part is most guys think they are using real talk all the time.

8 upvoteschambertlo2 years ago

I bet she was fat, wasn’t she?

7 upvotesWorldsOkayistGuy2 years ago

women hate the word creepy

59 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Next time find another place to be in the library or do a better job of focusing on your work.

Women are no physical threat to you, if she was staring its easy to ignore. No need to confront her which will get Law Enforcement involved. A dude staring at you that's a legit threat.

37 upvotesrooolng2 years ago

No, it's best to start throwing the double standard in their faces. Not calling out this shit is how we got here in the first place.

26 upvoteslord-denning2 years ago

Incorrect. The failure of our fathers / role models to teach us how to deal with women is what got us here in the first place. We must relearn this, not treat women like men.

4 upvotesWorldsOkayistGuy2 years ago

they think they want to be treated like men, sometimes it's good to remind them why they shouldn't

13 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

If I need directions to a restaurant. I don't ask my father. If I want to look up the invoice price of a car I don't ask my father. If I need to find a coupon code for something I'm going to buy. Like an airline ticket, I don't ask my father.

The only thing fathers need to teach their sons is HOW to find the information that is already out there. Give a man a fish and he eats one fish. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.

8 upvotesThrowawayhelper4202 years ago

So basically the only job of a father, by your statements, is to say, “here son, have a smartphone.”?

1 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

And yet I simultaneously believe that being raised by a single mother is even worse. Because as an impressionable child you'll most likely be told information which is patently, provably incorrect, and it might take a long time to undo. I had a dad (divorced parents) but I was told that all these awful things that my dad did that made me hate him and reject many of the masculine things that defined him. Such as dedication to a task and hard work.

All the information in the world is worthless if you don't have the primer with which to understand the words written. And men are best capable of giving other men that primer on how to understand the information which is already out there (if a man chooses to acknowledge it).

Think about people who post on blue pill forums. They have the same access to information that could benefit their own lives and the lives of men around them, but they reject the information.

I knew athletic kids were more popular as a child, but I wasn't able to objectively make the determination that "I" would be happier and more popular if I was athletic and worked out... until much later in life. Even when I was in the Air Force, I only "tolerated" PT because it was just a "required" aspect of life. Well that's a father's role, to make certain things required by the child so they are set up for success until they've gathered enough information to continue their own success.

2 upvoteslord-denning2 years ago

I do not mind the distinction you are making. All I am saying is that we need this to come from our fathers or other masculine role models and on that you and I agree.

0 upvotesantariusz2 years ago

That I can definitely agree on.

Hell, I actually told my father about this forum, because even though he's stuck in the blue pill mindset, he has some natural alpha tendencies. So If he wanted to learn, he could.

It should have been the other way around.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Calling them out for this double standard will change nothing. Women will always be protected, just the way humans are wired. Confronting her for "mad dogging" or for perceived double standards you will be treated as the threat. Just is and will not change, even cops have daughters.

Unless she is armed or martial arts (MMA) expert she is no threat to you. If she is staring you down a simple confident "was up" all you need to say. The gauge her reaction, then go back to what you are doing.

If she is verbally or physically assaulting you block the strikes and try to leave. Your choice on calling the police. Do not strike back unless she is armed or really knows what she's doing in a fight or you tried to leave and got cornered. Remember regardless of the circumstances you will be arrested, expelled from school, possibly face jail time and this will cost a lot of money. Do not talk to the police with out an attorney, get an attorney, hire an investigator to conduct your own investigation for witnesses, CCTV footage etc... You may escape jail but you will lose your job or be expelled from school and be out tens of thousands of dollars.

If she assaulted you first PRESS charges. MAD Mutually Assured Destruction. You will still have to deal with the above but you can ruin her career prospects as well and make it cost her a shit ton of money. If the police do nothing sue them.

17 upvotesRollo_Mayhem32 years ago

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17 upvotesRollo_Mayhem32 years ago

This is the problem, you made it seem like she was distracting you fine, but you opened the Pandora box because ypu wanted to practice.. don't play around in serious situations like studying for a serious exam. Your best move was to literally just get up and move away or playfully engage her...you decided to set limits with her...she turned the tables. Move on.

3 upvotesYam8842 years ago

I doubt this even happened to OP. Probably just a fantasy situation in his head that he wanted to reenact for us.

1 upvotesNibblyPig2 years ago

Lol if you see what op looks like it is believable

1 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

you know what op looks like?

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

My friends always say "science" before doing something "stupid" just to see what you can get away with.

Keep living life. Experiment.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

You don't play with explosives (they are a lot of fun though).

Crazy chicks are like old dynamite.

6 upvotesSir_Distic2 years ago

You lost frame. Simple as that.

Your best option. Turn around and smile at her. Turn back around and do your work. Forget about her. Simple as that.

You wanted to feel morally superior to her. Instead she's going to tell other women what a creepy jerk you are. Always protect your reputation.

After you're done you could have went up to her and asked for her number. Or simply walked away. But you had to make an issue out of nothing.

7 upvotesMatacks6072 years ago

Did that female make you upset? Haha

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10 upvoteszayelion2 years ago

I dont feel like you handled that correctly at multiple points...

4 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

Her: That sounds like a personal problem.

It does sound like a personal problem.

Why do you care if a woman is looking at you? Get her number and get back to work.

26 upvotesFistlegs2 years ago

Why the fuck do you give a shit if a girl is staring at you? Are you scared of people you meet at the library? Jesus christ...

7 upvoteswrong_assumption2 years ago

Agreed. OP was being a snowflake.

3 upvotesalbus_scirocco2 years ago

"I'm studying me, ogle me later."

4 upvotesCryxtalix2 years ago

I am not even going to refer to TRP, but why would you ever say that to begin with? I mean it's a public library, not your own personal library. It's rather expected to have weirdos around, since it's a public space.

For TRP standpoint it definitely makes sense. But it doesn't make sense outside of that. I doubt you have the right to go to a public space and demand people not to look at you. AFAIK lots of people at libraries have people watching hobbies.

22 upvotesZenitco2 years ago

OMG STOP STARING AT ME

jesus shut the fuck up kid

60 upvotesResangel2 years ago

A woman staring at you ? you couldn't concentrate cuz a girl was staring fantasizing about you ? This is what this sub has come to ?

I thought i was on two X chromosomes for a second.

Op's pathetic.

3 upvotes5t3fan02 years ago

harsh words but i agree, op shouldnt gave so many fucks about people staring at him... unless they look like thieves or intoxicated troublemakers.

Her: That sounds like a personal problem.

words of truth right out of the hamster mouth

26 upvotesResangel2 years ago

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26 upvotesResangel2 years ago

this is insignificant. Thoroughly insignificant. What message can be learned from this ? I have pussy on a pedestal ? You see any worshiping going on in my comment ? You literally just complained cuz someone in a library stared at you and something stupid. two little eyes from some nobody stopped you from advancing your career for a couple of minutes ? Pathetic And the fact that you thought this was so damn important that you posted it on a sexual strategy Sub. Cmon man Even you must see the meaninglessness of this post. Is this just a complaint sub now ? geez Man up Shrimshrim

25 upvotesthrewewawaway2 years ago

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25 upvotesthrewewawaway2 years ago

See, I don't care that a girl is staring/fantasizing about me.

I couldn't concentrate because a human was starring at me.

Can't speak for the guy you replied to, but doesn't seem like he's focused on her being a female as much as he is pointing out the fact that you clearly cared enough for it to break your attention.

I turn around and there is a girl fixated on me, waiting for me to say something.

The bitch can get out of my face

trying to get my attention

This is what I'm referring to. She wasn't in your face, she was quiet and behind you. When I worked in the library, if a male or female did that, it probably wouldn't have even gotten my attention, regardless of whether that was their intention.

What I don't understand is why it bothered you so much.

22 upvotesResangel2 years ago

Wow that's actually pretty laughable.

Man, woman, dog, cat.You were in a library and somebody, something was staring at you.

Ignore them and focus on your work.

Was that not obvious ?

Remind me, why is this post on RP ?

8 upvotesDigitallyDisrupt2 years ago

Both of you are right.

However, on the subject of being stared at, my dog stares at me when I'm working and it's distracting.

1 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

Or you can approach her now, get her number and then message her when you have spare time. She has interest and its easier to get interested girls then doing mass approaches.

3 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Get the fuck out of here with your concern trolling.

6 upvotesVerlier2 years ago

You just let them watch, work on your focus and be stoic. Not only for girls, in any case, ignoring everybody to be focused on your task is a fine skill to master.

3 upvotesheyimjason2 years ago

...why didn't you just ignore her or move? If someone asked me to stop staring at them, I'd tell them to go to hell.

5 upvotespaulkersey19992 years ago

you're lucky she wasn't black or you would have been accused of racism.

21 upvotesStrikePrice2 years ago

I can't believe you you fucking pussy. "She's staring and it makes me uncomfortable." Shut the fuck up and do your fucking work. People like you make me sick.

14 upvotesStrikePrice2 years ago

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14 upvotesStrikePrice2 years ago

It's that important and you let her in your head?? We go from sad to pathetic! You should learn to concentrate no matter what's happening around you. Thinking and acting correctly under pressure (if you can call that pressure) is an important life skill. I recommend ...

Josh Waitzkin The Art of Learning: An Inner Journey to Optimal Performance

But you're much too self-righteous to take any good advice. Best of luck to you.

4 upvotesyes_we_can_t2 years ago

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4 upvotesyes_we_can_t2 years ago

There's being a zen master as one extreme and on the opposite side of the spectrum there's someone who is so sensitive they're distracted by a person sitting behind them, staring in silence.

2 upvotesHtowngetdown2 years ago

Put some headphones in next time

4 upvotesThy_Nomad2 years ago

The problem is some people respond to people staring intently at them. Many can brush it off, but some other people, especially if they are stressed out or tired, can react violently or find that many things can stress them out even more. The important thing to note is that people react differently.

2 upvotesmax_peenor2 years ago

how quickly you notice the walls

So you lied. She did make you nervous.

2 upvotesFuture_Alpha2 years ago

grad school is pretty soft.

20 upvotesex_addict_bro2 years ago

Great form bro, but it looks like you do not get it at all, and I mean, AT ALL.

21 upvotesdingman582 years ago

Thanks for helping us understand bro

8 upvotesSOwED2 years ago

Like trying to teach someone to drive with a totalled car. Nothing to salvage here.

4 upvotesHviterev2 years ago

Who cares? This is how she handles rejection. She's trying to flip the script because she's been hurt. Let her cather to her feels however she sees fit

4 upvotesZanford2 years ago

Great example of projection. (Assuming your transcript-from-memory is accurate), you simply said 'watching me', she was the one to brought up 'hitting on you', and 'making this sexual', which of course is what she was doing by saying that.

Girls will try to turn it around if they get called out on something like this. Sort of like if you reject them after a date, they will act like they rejected you.

3 upvotesDragon_Garoo2 years ago

So much this. Nexted a girl that had lied to me in a way that was so obvious, so onerous, that it wasn't just hamster shit, it was full on "I'm gonna see how much of an idiot you'll be if you believe me" type of lie. Long story short, she started a rant over text that definitely sucked me in a bit, and by the end she made all sorts of statements of how shitty I was in every respect, and that she was essentially breaking up with me. Just hilarious. And disturbing. Watching the wheel spin, is really hypnotizing sometimes.

2 upvotesZanford2 years ago

I've seen screencaps of a bunch of text / messaging / dating app exchanges like this.....dude lets a girl down gently, she fires back with a sour grapes "You know what, I'm not interested / I'm breaking up" to protect her own ego. There are also celebrity version of this where the girl goes on a tweet rampage about what a small-dick loser the guy was (despite hundreds of during-relationship instagram or paparazzi photos where she's hanging all over the hunk).

The first time I ever broke up with a girl in grade school a similar thing happened: she was devastated by the immediate breakup, so the next day I thought I should be 'nice' by saying hi in the hallways etc., and she gave me the 100% cold shoulder / silent treatment. Anyone seeing that exchange without knowing the context might've thought I was some orbiter or had just been dumped. (I don't really blame her since it was her first time being dumped and at that age you are a bundle of hormones, but that same face also shows how innate the female strategy is).

One thing men - especially logically-minded or beta men with science and engineering inclinations - have working against them is an instinct that a conversation should follow a rational flow. They are not comfortable making, or being hit with, non-sequitors. Part of game is unlearning this nice guy reflex to actually respond in a straightforward to what the other person said. Reframing is basically the art of threading the needle between a reply and a non-sequitor to bounce the topic in a new angle. Girls have a natural instinct for reframing, b/c they are less hidebound by logical back-and-forth, and more solipsistic and fantasistic (they just perceive the world however they want to).

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I wonder what would happen / how it would look like from society's point of view if the genders were reversed.

2 upvotesBITCRUSHERRRR2 years ago

Sounded like she got upset at "rejection" to me

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

I ignore her for about 20 minuets but can't take it anymore.

After the 20th minuet, I assume it was time to turn off the goddamn classical station.

2 upvotesSuperFluffyPunch2 years ago

The long silent stare. Women do this ALL THE TIME. I've never understood why. It's like they go out of their way to create an awkward situation.

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

A day is only complete if you see the hamster spin.

2 upvotesFormaggio_svizzero2 years ago

living in ameeeeeeeeeericaaaaa

2 upvotesrorrr2 years ago

She baited you, you took the bait.

Why would engage with a woman in such a manner at all? It's just asking to be accused of a sexual assault.

I wouldn't be surprised if she went and complained about it to the administration, and you're already fucked.

2 upvotesPantsonFire12342 years ago

Was the chick hot? I hate it when this happens with uggos. I have a gym I'm a regular with. I have to stay in peak condition for my job in the military. I guess I stand out. Good looking girls look at you to but they are more subtle and less desperate.

The annoying thing is the ugly/fat/old ones who are so desperate and thirsty they go overboard. They are the female embodiment of a frustrated beta male. Like you said, you can just feel those eyes burning in your back. Every move you make they look. I think they even look for IOI's. Kid you not.

I've actually developed a habbit of purposefully looking the otherway every single time these women pass me in the room. Making them feel as undesirable as they are, hoping they get the hint. I guess this is how hot women feel when beta men hit on them.

6 upvotesTunedtoPerfection2 years ago

Women call men creepy all the time, does that mean that all women are actually creepy? Yup logic isn't gonna work here.

the start was bad, no need to apology for walking up to a person who is staring at you while your trying to study. This set you in her frame. Then to solidify that she made you repeat your request of her, you know she heard you the first time. if not, you need to speak up, stop repeating yourself. You don't have to yell but never give anyone a reason to "not hear you." It's a sign of weakness and women use this to test you, my last ex starting doing that shit all the time.

Then she flipped it on you using amused mastery with the personal problem comment. Finally for the power bomb she made you for a caring asshole when you fired off the creepy comment.

Chick is pretty red pill actually.

Next time

You: We can talk all about your blatant desire for me in 30 minutes I'll be taking a coffee break. Here put your number in my phone and I'll message you.

Then for some bonus points... don't even use her number if she is still there in 30 minutes, just walk off, stop get her attention and tell her. "Let's go" then without waiting for a response walk out the library toward coffee.

She might follow, she might not... If she does your banging her that night. If not you got coffee and I doubt she will be there when you get back. Win/Win

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

LOL

You asked her to leave you alone and she accused you of sexual harassment!

Typical woman mindset, "The guy must be sexually harming me in this situation because it isn't possible for a woman to be creepy".

Also, you should know women can't handle sexual rejection. Instinctually, they feel that every male wants to deposit his semen in them. And, for the most part, it's true.

Men, on the other hand, deal with this kind of rejection a lot. And instincually, we are prepared for it.

This is how reproduction works. The man is programmed to set out to try to get as many fertile females as possible. The female, however, must decide which male is the strongest. This is natural selection.

I observed this first hand one morning when I opened my curtains with my morning coffee in hand and saw what I can only describe as, "a doggy orgy". It was my bitch who was in heat. The males came from far and wide. There must have been 15 of these studs in my garden. Beautiful dogs I had never seen before. They were all trying to hop on. She clearly didn't approve of some of them and chased them away. She let a few of them have a shot though. I disagreed with a couple of her choices, but hey.

So, you see, at the instincual level females know they are sexually desirable. The vast majority of woman go through their entire lives without EVER being rejected in this way.

And, by the way, for a women to meatstare you like that is huge! She probably felt like she had really put herself "out on a limb". For women, even the subtlest advance, like a quick smile and a few seconds of eye contact, feels like she just bent over and parted her cheeks for you. Then, they get all huffy puffy when we don't make move. Often, they instictually write us off as weak and sexually incompetent and they lose interest immediately. Your chances of getting her after that are next to zero cos she has instinctually written you off as unfit to reproduce with (unless, of course, you frame it like she is an inadequate vessel for your semen and you could do better, or you already have better).

4 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Why didn't you strike while the iron was hot?

You aren't MGTOW AND THIS IS RED PILL.

2 upvotessadomasochrist2 years ago

Because he had shit to get done? Abundance? You lack it?

2 upvotesSuperFluffyPunch2 years ago

or maybe she was unattractive

4 upvotesMuk1st2 years ago

Yo dawg, should have just said hey I’ll meet you at (insert random place here) in about an hour. Gives you time to get whatever done before she comes back looking for you.

9 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Gonna go with a high 1% chance this happened.

4 upvotesLook_Ma_Im_On_Reddit2 years ago

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4 upvotesLook_Ma_Im_On_Reddit2 years ago

Someone looked at me better post it on Tumblr

3 upvotesTheIceReaver2 years ago

If you didn't want it to turn sour you could have gone:

"Does my staring make you nervous?"

(Agree and amplify)

"..Yeah I'm sooo nervous. Thanks."

Then back to work.

Honestly though from what you wrote what you did seems way weirder than anything she said or did man...

2 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

You should have asked her what kind of medication she is on and that is possible she missed her morning dose, that your concerned about her mental health.

2 upvotesMallago2 years ago

Sounds like a typical sociopathic SJW. Classic ASPD behavior, especially the "are you nervous?" line.

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Back when I was young and handsome, I had women do this type of thing or approach me in other ways. They all did the same kind of stuff that women find creepy when AFC men do it.

In fact, very few women have any game when it comes to approaching or getting a man to take interest since they just need to look good and wait for men to approach. But, if they aren't attractive, then nothing is going to happen.

1 upvotesResistAuthority2 years ago

The consequences will never be the same

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Here is the video of what happened.

https://youtu.be/RjFuN00yGzI

1 upvotesDragon_Garoo2 years ago

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.

1 upvoteskellykebab2 years ago

Did you know this person before? I've never really heard of something like this happening. I'd have to assume there's a backstory.

1 upvotesCross_De_Lena2 years ago

I don't want to defend her, she's stupid AF, but you could've just as easily move to another table.

1 upvotesTrooper_18682 years ago

if this was a table, you could have just shifted slightly, so you can't see her looking at you. Better yet, you should have given her a long glance, then smirked and sat with your back turned to her. So she knows you know. Its easier sometimes to just not confront, when it uselessly takes up your time.

1 upvotesThickDickWarrior892 years ago

Honestly you shouldn't even give a shit if a female is staring at you; consider it flattery or disregard it entirely.

1 upvotestuyguy2 years ago

That's shocking.

You can always walk away.

1 upvotesGoddamnpanda2 years ago

I'd catch a women at work looking at me sometimes. I don't talk to her about it. I just say "quit looking at me". She's only said she wasn't once. I told her to keep it that way.

1 upvotesbiggerbetterjobs2 years ago

Lol you probably made her cry into her dorm room pillow all afternoon. She'll get over it when she swills down a bottle of wine with her girlfriends.

1 upvotesWillyWonka3212 years ago

So we now need to learn how to interact with women just to keep out of going to jail.

1 upvotesmoontripper12462 years ago

dude.....why didn't you just pick her up instead? loll like, cool good on you, you spoke your mind and held frame that's absolutely something to be celebrated, so good on you bruv. But.....you get that you just made her feel shitty for liking you right? I'm not saying you're wrong to be disturbed by her gaze, or even saying that you're wrong for acting the way you did. But given the situation there was a very fun for everyone ending that you could have brought about, especially being aware of game principles. And instead you made her feel bad for showing interest in a stranger, and she accused you of sexual harassment Loll it just occurs to me that maybe you aren't aware that game doesn't just have to be applied to getting something you want from a girl you like, you can use it to put girls down gently too.

1 upvotesaanarchist2 years ago

"accusing me of being creepy is actually creepy". lets start using that one.

1 upvotesI_Need_More_Space_2 years ago

Easily solved if you just would have looked at her and started laughing. But, laugh in a way to humiliate her for thinking she has a chance with you. Problem solved. Learn some social skills, Bro.

1 upvotesredsorceror2 years ago

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I feel for you, man. I’m a tall fella going back for my Master’s so I’ll figuratively be in your seat soon.

1 upvotesStrikePrice2 years ago

Nah. I know a thinly veiled SJW attempt to backdoor a "male gaze" nonsense argument.

1 upvotesyoulovethisish2 years ago

Yeah boss, I'd say you should see if you can squeeze some meditation into your days. 20 mins in the morning or so.

Aside from the premise, would definitely agree with the other people here saying that you said too much. But I get it, we buckle sometimes when the pressure is monumental. Engineering school was no joke. Many a cigarette smoked those days.

Honestly, I think meditation will help with focusing on the task at hand. In turn, you'll be less moved by the stares, and it'll be easier to remain stoic and say less in these high pressure situations.

Learning experience!

1 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

You should have raped her right on the spot and said "you accusing me of rape is raping me".

-5 upvotesEuphoricentia2 years ago

She was probably fucking with your twink ass, must not lift

7 upvotescashmoney_x2 years ago

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7 upvotescashmoney_x2 years ago

You prove yourself to those redditors!

6 upvotesEuphoricentia2 years ago

op I have a diagnosis.

Diagnosis: op is insecure

3 upvotesCHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK2 years ago

Maybe she was staring at your nose?

0 upvotessadomasochrist2 years ago

I'm impressed at how well you logically cornered her. Even more impressed that when presented with no way to call you a creep, she flipped it on you.

I mean it makes no sense at all but shows how potent it is.

It also shows you why trying to assign agency is useless. There's no room for a rational debate.

Just get yours.

So in this case, while no one saw this punch line coming, in the future, you know the best bet is to just move.

This is a really good post. It shows how careful you have to navigate this.

This non-confrontational bullshittery grates at the male soul, but it's a necessary social tool.

1 upvotesHam_Kitten2 years ago

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1 upvotesHam_Kitten2 years ago

What the fuck is wrong with you?

-3 upvotesCompeliminator2 years ago

just stare back at her and make crazy demented faces until she starts laughing and comes over to talk to you

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-1 upvotesmenial_optimist2 years ago

What I believe you have witnessed is the rare female creeper. Women love going on about creepers all the time who try and hit on em. My friends fat wife tells me a "I got hit on by a creeper" story nearly every weekend.

-2 upvotesRepulsive_Impulse2 years ago

Lol. I've met people like this so many times. I have a pretty powerful defence mechanism now. Once I realize someone is that dumb I become incapable of giving a fuck about anything they do. It's very woo-sah or whatever like... she's a dumb cunt that should have her face spat in all the time so that's like... already bad enough that she has to exist as a fuckin monkey her whole life. Cunts hate their lives and it brings me joy that they can't ever Fuck with me. I'm unfuckwithable.





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