Today I asked a woman to stop looking at me and was accused of sexual harassment

MattyAnon · 2017-09-29T20:53:29+00:00

It's tempting to say "you should have recorded it", but sadly noone would care and nothing would happen as a result.

It would be spun into you being the problem anyway. "So you walked over to this girl, unsolicited, and then asked her to change her behaviour?"

For future reference OP, your approach was too reasonable, which women interpret as weakness. You might try instead "Stop staring at me" rather than declaring yourself "not rude" to start with. And don't give reasons why ("I can't work because"). Avoid logic, avoid calls for reasonable behaviour, instead tell her what to do or what not to do.

2017-09-30T02:19:30+00:00

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TryhardPantiesON · 2017-09-29T21:08:53+00:00

Her: I'll just have you know, that accusing me of being creepy is actually creepy. You didn't need to make this sexual. I'm not interested in you, and you don't seem to realize that. I don't tolerate sexual harassment.

Funniest shit i have read today.

Starcruiser28 · 2017-09-29T21:20:30+00:00

she had the hots for you and you shot her down, pre-emptive strike, she couldn't handle the rejection, typical female, especially if she was somewhat good looking, she couldn't understand the rejection.

ToTheMewn · 2017-09-30T00:07:47+00:00

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Auvergnat · 2017-09-29T23:49:35+00:00

Nobody takes sexual rejection well, but women absolutely hate it.

This is because evolutionary their entire value to the species is their value as a sexual mate. Where men's SMV is due in part to what they do, which can be used to compensate for a lack of sexual attractiveness, women cannot afford to be seen as sexually unattractive. Their entire status depends on it.

That's why everything women do is about affirming their sexual attractiveness to men. And that is why they absolutely hate sexual rejection.

That's why the hamster in OP's example went into overdrive to reframe the situation as "him hitting on her".

And that's why you want to be extremely careful when you reject a woman, since doing so is such a massive issue for her. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" is an expression dating from the 17th century. This is a timeless truth. Be careful how you frame your rejections.

Lateralanouncer · 2017-09-30T04:25:45+00:00

She stoped for ten minutes and thought about how she was the victim. Now her friends can help her through the hardship.

PantsonFire1234 · 2017-09-30T03:20:49+00:00

Eye rape, coming soon to a college near you (but you can only commit it if you are a man)

slumdog-millionaire · 2017-09-29T21:07:24+00:00

what a fucking bitch, I feel like you said too much though dude, If you weren't interested I would've just said hey can you stop staring at me please? thanks. no need to explain shit to her

I had a girl eye fuck me like this once when I walked into a lab at the start of a semester in college, I flirted and got her number later and called her and she replied to my advance by saying please stop.

If you don't want to get hit on don't fucking stare at people cunt

MizterUltimaman · 2017-09-29T21:40:45+00:00

That's how crazy girls flirt. Next time, either give a soft reject, or make a move on her.

Tall_Irish_Guy · 2017-09-30T03:16:43+00:00

Shouldn't have said anything drama queen.

AlphaGrad · 2017-09-30T02:01:49+00:00

Dumb, dumb, dumb approach to solve this. Women never respond to overt communication unless you're famous and/or visibly rich.

chambertlo · 2017-09-30T02:31:14+00:00

I bet she was fat, wasn’t she?

WorldsOkayistGuy · 2017-09-30T11:21:21+00:00

women hate the word creepy

rooolng · 2017-09-29T21:29:38+00:00

Next time find another place to be in the library or do a better job of focusing on your work.

Women are no physical threat to you, if she was staring its easy to ignore. No need to confront her which will get Law Enforcement involved. A dude staring at you that's a legit threat.

Sir_Distic · 2017-09-30T13:12:03+00:00

You lost frame. Simple as that.

Your best option. Turn around and smile at her. Turn back around and do your work. Forget about her. Simple as that.

You wanted to feel morally superior to her. Instead she's going to tell other women what a creepy jerk you are. Always protect your reputation.

After you're done you could have went up to her and asked for her number. Or simply walked away. But you had to make an issue out of nothing.

Matacks607 · 2017-09-30T14:35:46+00:00

Did that female make you upset? Haha

2017-09-29T22:42:58+00:00

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zayelion · 2017-09-30T02:32:32+00:00

I dont feel like you handled that correctly at multiple points...

max_peenor · 2017-09-30T15:14:29+00:00

Her: That sounds like a personal problem.

It does sound like a personal problem.

Why do you care if a woman is looking at you? Get her number and get back to work.

Fistlegs · 2017-09-30T02:22:00+00:00

Why the fuck do you give a shit if a girl is staring at you? Are you scared of people you meet at the library? Jesus christ...

albus_scirocco · 2017-09-30T03:36:50+00:00

"I'm studying me, ogle me later."

Cryxtalix · 2017-09-30T05:18:15+00:00

I am not even going to refer to TRP, but why would you ever say that to begin with? I mean it's a public library, not your own personal library. It's rather expected to have weirdos around, since it's a public space.

For TRP standpoint it definitely makes sense. But it doesn't make sense outside of that. I doubt you have the right to go to a public space and demand people not to look at you. AFAIK lots of people at libraries have people watching hobbies.

Zenitco · 2017-09-29T23:43:24+00:00

OMG STOP STARING AT ME

jesus shut the fuck up kid

Resangel · 2017-09-29T23:15:11+00:00

A woman staring at you ? you couldn't concentrate cuz a girl was staring fantasizing about you ? This is what this sub has come to ?

I thought i was on two X chromosomes for a second.

Op's pathetic.

Verlier · 2017-09-30T03:56:09+00:00

You just let them watch, work on your focus and be stoic. Not only for girls, in any case, ignoring everybody to be focused on your task is a fine skill to master.

heyimjason · 2017-09-30T13:37:02+00:00

...why didn't you just ignore her or move? If someone asked me to stop staring at them, I'd tell them to go to hell.

paulkersey1999 · 2017-09-30T12:18:02+00:00

you're lucky she wasn't black or you would have been accused of racism.

StrikePrice · 2017-09-29T23:47:25+00:00

I can't believe you you fucking pussy. "She's staring and it makes me uncomfortable." Shut the fuck up and do your fucking work. People like you make me sick.

ex_addict_bro · 2017-09-29T21:24:03+00:00

Great form bro, but it looks like you do not get it at all, and I mean, AT ALL.

Hviterev · 2017-09-30T01:26:07+00:00

Who cares? This is how she handles rejection. She's trying to flip the script because she's been hurt. Let her cather to her feels however she sees fit

Zanford · 2017-09-30T02:07:39+00:00

Great example of projection. (Assuming your transcript-from-memory is accurate), you simply said 'watching me', she was the one to brought up 'hitting on you', and 'making this sexual', which of course is what she was doing by saying that.

Girls will try to turn it around if they get called out on something like this. Sort of like if you reject them after a date, they will act like they rejected you.

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T02:16:40+00:00

I wonder what would happen / how it would look like from society's point of view if the genders were reversed.

BITCRUSHERRRR · 2017-09-30T02:08:46+00:00

Sounded like she got upset at "rejection" to me

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T08:45:10+00:00

I ignore her for about 20 minuets but can't take it anymore.

After the 20th minuet, I assume it was time to turn off the goddamn classical station.

SuperFluffyPunch · 2017-09-30T09:00:59+00:00

The long silent stare. Women do this ALL THE TIME. I've never understood why. It's like they go out of their way to create an awkward situation.

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T12:05:23+00:00

A day is only complete if you see the hamster spin.

Formaggio_svizzero · 2017-09-30T12:19:57+00:00

living in ameeeeeeeeeericaaaaa

rorrr · 2017-09-30T12:32:07+00:00

She baited you, you took the bait.

Why would engage with a woman in such a manner at all? It's just asking to be accused of a sexual assault.

I wouldn't be surprised if she went and complained about it to the administration, and you're already fucked.

PantsonFire1234 · 2017-10-01T23:53:58+00:00

Was the chick hot? I hate it when this happens with uggos. I have a gym I'm a regular with. I have to stay in peak condition for my job in the military. I guess I stand out. Good looking girls look at you to but they are more subtle and less desperate.

The annoying thing is the ugly/fat/old ones who are so desperate and thirsty they go overboard. They are the female embodiment of a frustrated beta male. Like you said, you can just feel those eyes burning in your back. Every move you make they look. I think they even look for IOI's. Kid you not.

I've actually developed a habbit of purposefully looking the otherway every single time these women pass me in the room. Making them feel as undesirable as they are, hoping they get the hint. I guess this is how hot women feel when beta men hit on them.

TunedtoPerfection · 2017-09-30T02:40:57+00:00

Women call men creepy all the time, does that mean that all women are actually creepy? Yup logic isn't gonna work here.

the start was bad, no need to apology for walking up to a person who is staring at you while your trying to study. This set you in her frame. Then to solidify that she made you repeat your request of her, you know she heard you the first time. if not, you need to speak up, stop repeating yourself. You don't have to yell but never give anyone a reason to "not hear you." It's a sign of weakness and women use this to test you, my last ex starting doing that shit all the time.

Then she flipped it on you using amused mastery with the personal problem comment. Finally for the power bomb she made you for a caring asshole when you fired off the creepy comment.

Chick is pretty red pill actually.

Next time

You: We can talk all about your blatant desire for me in 30 minutes I'll be taking a coffee break. Here put your number in my phone and I'll message you.

Then for some bonus points... don't even use her number if she is still there in 30 minutes, just walk off, stop get her attention and tell her. "Let's go" then without waiting for a response walk out the library toward coffee.

She might follow, she might not... If she does your banging her that night. If not you got coffee and I doubt she will be there when you get back. Win/Win

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T02:43:26+00:00

LOL

You asked her to leave you alone and she accused you of sexual harassment!

Typical woman mindset, "The guy must be sexually harming me in this situation because it isn't possible for a woman to be creepy".

Also, you should know women can't handle sexual rejection. Instinctually, they feel that every male wants to deposit his semen in them. And, for the most part, it's true.

Men, on the other hand, deal with this kind of rejection a lot. And instincually, we are prepared for it.

This is how reproduction works. The man is programmed to set out to try to get as many fertile females as possible. The female, however, must decide which male is the strongest. This is natural selection.

I observed this first hand one morning when I opened my curtains with my morning coffee in hand and saw what I can only describe as, "a doggy orgy". It was my bitch who was in heat. The males came from far and wide. There must have been 15 of these studs in my garden. Beautiful dogs I had never seen before. They were all trying to hop on. She clearly didn't approve of some of them and chased them away. She let a few of them have a shot though. I disagreed with a couple of her choices, but hey.

So, you see, at the instincual level females know they are sexually desirable. The vast majority of woman go through their entire lives without EVER being rejected in this way.

And, by the way, for a women to meatstare you like that is huge! She probably felt like she had really put herself "out on a limb". For women, even the subtlest advance, like a quick smile and a few seconds of eye contact, feels like she just bent over and parted her cheeks for you. Then, they get all huffy puffy when we don't make move. Often, they instictually write us off as weak and sexually incompetent and they lose interest immediately. Your chances of getting her after that are next to zero cos she has instinctually written you off as unfit to reproduce with (unless, of course, you frame it like she is an inadequate vessel for your semen and you could do better, or you already have better).

sadomasochrist · 2017-09-30T02:11:07+00:00

Why didn't you strike while the iron was hot?

You aren't MGTOW AND THIS IS RED PILL.

Muk1st · 2017-09-29T23:54:14+00:00

Yo dawg, should have just said hey I’ll meet you at (insert random place here) in about an hour. Gives you time to get whatever done before she comes back looking for you.

Look_Ma_Im_On_Reddit · 2017-09-30T00:33:03+00:00

Gonna go with a high 1% chance this happened.

TheIceReaver · 2017-09-30T02:27:29+00:00

If you didn't want it to turn sour you could have gone:

"Does my staring make you nervous?"

(Agree and amplify)

"..Yeah I'm sooo nervous. Thanks."

Then back to work.

Honestly though from what you wrote what you did seems way weirder than anything she said or did man...

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T00:09:20+00:00

You should have asked her what kind of medication she is on and that is possible she missed her morning dose, that your concerned about her mental health.

Mallago · 2017-09-30T02:34:50+00:00

Sounds like a typical sociopathic SJW. Classic ASPD behavior, especially the "are you nervous?" line.

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T04:16:59+00:00

Back when I was young and handsome, I had women do this type of thing or approach me in other ways. They all did the same kind of stuff that women find creepy when AFC men do it.

In fact, very few women have any game when it comes to approaching or getting a man to take interest since they just need to look good and wait for men to approach. But, if they aren't attractive, then nothing is going to happen.

ResistAuthority · 2017-09-30T04:19:25+00:00

The consequences will never be the same

Dragon_Garoo · 2017-09-30T05:06:31+00:00

Here is the video of what happened.

https://youtu.be/RjFuN00yGzI

kellykebab · 2017-09-30T05:32:02+00:00

Did you know this person before? I've never really heard of something like this happening. I'd have to assume there's a backstory.

Cross_De_Lena · 2017-09-30T09:05:55+00:00

I don't want to defend her, she's stupid AF, but you could've just as easily move to another table.

Trooper_1868 · 2017-09-30T09:45:23+00:00

if this was a table, you could have just shifted slightly, so you can't see her looking at you. Better yet, you should have given her a long glance, then smirked and sat with your back turned to her. So she knows you know. Its easier sometimes to just not confront, when it uselessly takes up your time.

ThickDickWarrior89 · 2017-09-30T10:49:14+00:00

Honestly you shouldn't even give a shit if a female is staring at you; consider it flattery or disregard it entirely.

tuyguy · 2017-09-30T12:47:48+00:00

That's shocking.

You can always walk away.

Goddamnpanda · 2017-09-30T15:32:11+00:00

I'd catch a women at work looking at me sometimes. I don't talk to her about it. I just say "quit looking at me". She's only said she wasn't once. I told her to keep it that way.

biggerbetterjobs · 2017-09-30T17:12:50+00:00

Lol you probably made her cry into her dorm room pillow all afternoon. She'll get over it when she swills down a bottle of wine with her girlfriends.

WillyWonka321 · 2017-09-30T20:08:42+00:00

So we now need to learn how to interact with women just to keep out of going to jail.

moontripper1246 · 2017-09-30T21:34:03+00:00

dude.....why didn't you just pick her up instead? loll like, cool good on you, you spoke your mind and held frame that's absolutely something to be celebrated, so good on you bruv. But.....you get that you just made her feel shitty for liking you right? I'm not saying you're wrong to be disturbed by her gaze, or even saying that you're wrong for acting the way you did. But given the situation there was a very fun for everyone ending that you could have brought about, especially being aware of game principles. And instead you made her feel bad for showing interest in a stranger, and she accused you of sexual harassment Loll it just occurs to me that maybe you aren't aware that game doesn't just have to be applied to getting something you want from a girl you like, you can use it to put girls down gently too.

aanarchist · 2017-10-02T00:18:06+00:00

"accusing me of being creepy is actually creepy". lets start using that one.

I_Need_More_Space_ · 2017-10-02T01:10:10+00:00

Easily solved if you just would have looked at her and started laughing. But, laugh in a way to humiliate her for thinking she has a chance with you. Problem solved. Learn some social skills, Bro.

redsorceror · Fri Sep 29 23:24:49 2017 UTC

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I feel for you, man. I’m a tall fella going back for my Master’s so I’ll figuratively be in your seat soon.

StrikePrice · 2017-09-30T04:27:36+00:00

Nah. I know a thinly veiled SJW attempt to backdoor a "male gaze" nonsense argument.

youlovethisish · 2017-09-30T06:20:17+00:00

Yeah boss, I'd say you should see if you can squeeze some meditation into your days. 20 mins in the morning or so.

Aside from the premise, would definitely agree with the other people here saying that you said too much. But I get it, we buckle sometimes when the pressure is monumental. Engineering school was no joke. Many a cigarette smoked those days.

Honestly, I think meditation will help with focusing on the task at hand. In turn, you'll be less moved by the stares, and it'll be easier to remain stoic and say less in these high pressure situations.

Learning experience!

[deleted] · 2017-09-30T18:53:02+00:00

You should have raped her right on the spot and said "you accusing me of rape is raping me".

Euphoricentia · 2017-09-29T21:05:27+00:00

She was probably fucking with your twink ass, must not lift

sadomasochrist · 2017-09-30T02:43:24+00:00

I'm impressed at how well you logically cornered her. Even more impressed that when presented with no way to call you a creep, she flipped it on you.

I mean it makes no sense at all but shows how potent it is.

It also shows you why trying to assign agency is useless. There's no room for a rational debate.

Just get yours.

So in this case, while no one saw this punch line coming, in the future, you know the best bet is to just move.

This is a really good post. It shows how careful you have to navigate this.

This non-confrontational bullshittery grates at the male soul, but it's a necessary social tool.

Ham_Kitten · 2017-09-30T01:49:38+00:00

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Compeliminator · 2017-09-30T01:21:26+00:00

just stare back at her and make crazy demented faces until she starts laughing and comes over to talk to you

2017-09-29T20:38:38+00:00

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menial_optimist · 2017-09-30T01:21:58+00:00

What I believe you have witnessed is the rare female creeper. Women love going on about creepers all the time who try and hit on em. My friends fat wife tells me a "I got hit on by a creeper" story nearly every weekend.

Repulsive_Impulse · 2017-09-30T01:17:19+00:00

Lol. I've met people like this so many times. I have a pretty powerful defence mechanism now. Once I realize someone is that dumb I become incapable of giving a fuck about anything they do. It's very woo-sah or whatever like... she's a dumb cunt that should have her face spat in all the time so that's like... already bad enough that she has to exist as a fuckin monkey her whole life. Cunts hate their lives and it brings me joy that they can't ever Fuck with me. I'm unfuckwithable.

Title	Today I asked a woman to stop looking at me and was accused of sexual harassment
Author	ShrimShrim
Upvotes	752
Comments	201
Date	29 September 2017 08:26 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
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