Get MAD You Sons of Bitches, Get MAD

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October 2, 2017

Anger moves mountains. Nothing drives a man to new heights more quickly than simmering rage redirected towards growth. Get mad.

I don't care how many times this subject has been retread here. I don't care how obvious and simple the message is. It bears repeating: anger and resentment are natural and good. If you work a shitty job and drive a shitty car and only get to fuck shitty women (if that), then you ought to feel shitty just about 24/7. Feeling shitty is a useful mechanism cooked up by Mother Nature to encourage self-improvement. Feeling good is a useful mechanism cooked up by Mother Nature to encourage keeping things the way they are. You wanna know why most self-help advice these days is fucked? It encourages you to feel good before you have any right or reason to.

If you're eating shit then you should feel like shit until you aren't eating shit anymore. Only thing is, most men these days don't realize you have the power to choose what type of shitty feeling permeates your being when your life is in the dumpster. Anger and aggression are discouraged at every turn in today's society, so most men with garbage lives default to feeling sad about it. This is misdirected negative energy. When your life is shit you can choose whether to feel sad or pissed off about it. Choose the useful option. Choose mad.

Wallowing in despair is a feminine state of being, and it works great for women. Women shed tears and doors magically open up for them out of the abyss. A man gets a little mopey and doors deadbolt shut to keep them out. "Sorry!" the gatekeeper yells as he slams the door in your face. "You're not the type of vulnerable pussy we were looking for!"

Anger, on the other hand, is a masculine emotion. Anger is the raw, penetrative force that kicks down doors and makes shit happen. Anger is your need to survive boiling up out of your body into the universe. If your life is in the gutter then get a fire burning under your broke, skinnyfat, low-SMV ass. Get mad.

The beautiful thing about anger is that it feeds into itself. What happens when you use your anger to force yourself out of your comfort zone and up to the plate, only to miss on your swing? One of two things: you can crawl back into your hole and weep or you can use the experience to get twice as pissed off about your circumstances. Failure converts into anger like status converts into girlfriends. Get mad, and when that doesn't work, get madder.

For decades snake oil salesmen have successfully sold people on the "power" of positive emotions like serenity and gratitude. In case there was any doubt, let me tell you right now: that shit is fuckin' bullshit. Counterproductive bullshit. Dopey nonsense. Scam. Mind you, "gratitude" is a great product to shill because it delivers satisfaction in the short term for the dumb chumps who buy into it. The placebo effect is strong. But if real change and results are what you're looking for, choose to feed the monster within. Make "gratitude" a dirty word and embrace the green-eyed beast that stirs in the pit of your stomach when you see people better off than you. Get jealous. Get resentful. Get mad. Then get to work.

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Title Get MAD You Sons of Bitches, Get MAD
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Date 02 October 2017 01:14 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]DSetupDTitleDMenu116 points117 points  (10 children) | Copy

I remember watching one of those dumbshit teen movies when I was a kid in my little pink house with cracked walls in forty-degree heat (in celsius, around 105 in fahrenheit) smackbang in the middle of rural Australia. Here those (fake) kids were, complaining that their lives were terrible in their air-conditioned, modern houses and their abundance of friends and girlfriends, and here I was, getting shitty signal and panicking about how I'll never have any friends and what happens if there's no tap water again because the ancient plumbing system fucked out for the umpteenth time this summer. But there was nothing I could do about it. And nothing my poor old mum could do about it, either. I complained and complained to my mum about our shitty life while those kids got to enjoy their youth, and her response was, well, that I couldn't do anything about it. She was right, but way to instill learned helplessness at such a young age. I wasn't all mopey about it, just angry. I couldn't do anything but just project my anger aimlessly, swinging sticks at magpies as they swooped down to claw at my scalp.

Same thing happened when my dad died. Not that he was ever available because all he'd do is lock himself in the study. Complained and complained to my poor old mum that all these kids got to have fathers while mine never said a word to me, even before he offed himself. Geez, it's a wonder why my mum hasn't offed herself yet. We don't get along, sure, but I'm still extra nice to her because the poor old lady's had just about the worst life imaginable, and yet she's still around, trudging through the garden, looking for something to do with the life she's given. She's as mopey as they come, but she's still standing. This, for me, was when my way of dealing with my crap life was through being a mopey dopehead instead of an angry little shit who was keen to fix things. I just kinda accepted that life wasn't really meant to be enjoyed by people like me. This was around the time I stopped giving a shit about school and let my grades fall, not that they were ever any good. I went from a C student straight to a D student in no time flat.

Same thing happened when my brother went to a great school and found himself in a great network of people. He started getting invited to parties, got laid left and right and got to try all sorts of drugs out, while I was a kissless virgin still kept getting straddled with apathetic losers who couldn't even find weed. I was angry, sure, but honestly, good for my little brother. I read his reddit posts and found out that he was close to suicide before he found his group of friends. Once again, I was mopey all the damn time, but I became determined to fix things. And then I got angry again all of a sudden, but I knew that anger was going to help me since I actually had the power to help myself this time.

In the past two years through my newfound anger, I gained much-needed weight, fixed my balding head with meds, tried to join social circles of people my age through jobs (and failed, but I'm working on it), got my first girlfriend and first no-strings-attached fuckbuddy and became competent at math, all through perseverance from myself and nothing else. Taking the red pill halfway through helped speed things up to get me where I am today.

Now I know for sure that I can't just sit around expect things to fall in my lap. I have to get out there and grab them all for myself.

Next year, I'll be ready to take on university. Bring it on.

[–]HoneySquash12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

How did you improve your balding situation?

[–]Shakydrummer2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Probably finasteride if it's in pill form. Side effects can include impotence though so it's risky.

[–]czech_man1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very low chance. 1 in 100 000 i think

[–]geology_socks9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

How'd ya cure baldness in all that?

[–]improve_myself7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the most real and inspiring comments I've read. Keep improving :).

[–]jace811 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope you Don't put too much pressure on yourself. sounds like you've been dealt a shitty hand, and that's not your fault. Best of luck with university.

[–]Swaglord3000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Uni is great dude, trust. Perfect place to grow and hand out with really cool people. Look around, there are people who think like you, look for them. Befriend them and the journey will be much more fun. It's a time to reinvent your social standing and everything else. Goodluck sir, but I hope you won't need it.

[–]maplemaximus138 points139 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can't agree more. I've finally been motivated to workout 5-6 days a week, and it's mostly based around my anger of my constant failures to lose weight and stay dedicated in the past.

Anger clouds your thoughts. Any thoughts of doubt you might have before benching disappears when the testosterone truly pumps in you. It's a high of strength that I consider a genetic gift, and you shouldn't waste it.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let the anger fuel the workout and provide incentive to cut calories and when anger fades then use discipline and routine to keep slogging through it

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like this post it's like risk-taking. People often say it's inherently dangerous. However when used properly...

[–]LeBroney59 points60 points  (18 children) | Copy

I personally tend to burn out and feel depressed/lethargic if I’m relying on anger after a while. Is there a proper balance of gratitude and anger to keep my mind calm enough to be productive? Or am I just being a pussy and need to push harder with the anger?

[–]truthbrute 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

The trick is to train yourself to call upon the anger on demand. It sounds like some gay Darth Vadar shit, but it really is like how the bad guys use it Star Wars.

You call upon the anger get you to the gym or to the library or whatever it is you need to do. Once you're there you shift your full attention to the task so you aren't literally fuming while you do it. Just use the anger as lubricant to get you to the mode of getting shit done.

Then when the urge to give up or slack off rears its head, you will yourself to remember that some low-IQ thug is are fucking new 10's every night while you're struggling to get 7's to notice you, that some trust fund baby is cruising around in a brand new Ferrari while you drive to work in a 2001 Nissan Sentra, that a billion years of evolution have thus far been squandered on your shitty mediocre existence, etc. Insert whatever pushes your buttons and gets you to that place of pushing back against your circumstances.

[–]maplemaximus41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fucking gold dude. Using things that push your buttons work quite well, especially if you're a teenager like myself. You flip out quite quickly and feel a burst of energy.

[–]WalterEArmstrong19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd give my right nut if I'd known that as a teenagerl

[–]Radinax11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks I needed this you fcking bitch.

[–]PillDragon4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

For real. Every time I have to push myself be it while jumping rope or squatting or holding a plank, I visualize the ripped guy who my girlfriend was willing to cheat on me for (She didn't and we broke up before it could happen) I'm friends with this guy now but I still tap into that feeling I had when I found out about that situation. Works like a charm.

[–]ThrowFader3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

you didn't really need to explain that she didn't. She basically did.


[–]PillDragon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're right. It was my first truly RP moment, for me to assess it coldly and come to the conclusion that this time it didn't happen and you're not gonna wait around for it to happen. The fact that she considered it once means she'll do it again.

[–]JcHgvr4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's my secret captain. I'm always angry.

[–]Raywhat3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Um, it's a 2004 Nissan sentra, get it right

[–]HoneySquash0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anger is energy. All you need to do is to transfer this energy to the things you want.

[–]1htbf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What about when you talk to girls and be social ? You have to be fun, not angry, what then ?

[–]maplemaximus13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Understand what the anger is for. Channel the anger into sheer determination and focus. Working out while using anger based out of sadness and insecurity will only make you feel malcontent later on.

Recognize the anger, and channel it into power. That burst of anger that you feel that makes you feel as though you could lift the world up and throw it is the proper anger. Anger made out of sadness etc, is the anger you want to get out of you in a workout, not channel into yourself. I hate to sound like a fucking mystical guru mate.

[–]HorseSalvatore0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This isn't about a frothing at the mouth kind of rage. It's about about embracing your discontent with life and starting to feel outraged that you don't have what you deserve. Gratitude is for losers trying to convince themselves that everything is ok when actually everything is upside down and on fire.

[–]swishman15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

how good is glengarry glen ross

[–]thewrecker812 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really just the part with Alec Baldwin. You can turn it off after that

[–]shutupitsunique 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I keep getting conflicting advice on this sub a lot. People say being stoic and not emotionally invested in anything is a good thing, but this sounds good too. Is it better to be calm or angry? Is it sittuational? If so, when is one viable, when is the other?

[–]KickinWangg15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's situational. You have to take the stuff posted on TRP and make it work for -you-. The OP isn't saying haul off and punch people in the face or freak out all the time, he is saying don't listen to the pussies of society that condemn anger and allow yourself to feel it, then direct it to do something productive.

[–]1htbf6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

People say being stoic and not emotionally invested in anything is a good thing

If you're doing everything you need to be doing without needing anger as fuel, then good for you. But if not, channel your anger.

[–]BigBrotherZiggy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agree, but I think anger is part of being a man, it's a result of testosterone, use it to your advantage. I find it hard to believe a man has no anger at all. From my experience that comes either from being neutered or low T. Like KickinWangg put it, anger should not be flipping shit around. That's having a tantrum. Anger is using the agressive testosterone energy inherent to men. It's amazing to see the power of the female imperative. A man's anger is useful, it drives him forward. But we've been taught being agressive is bad. If you're mad you shouldn't kick the doors open. You should have a tantrum and complain about how unfair the world is, flip chairs and shit. Your anger is your friend, and I find it to be a sign your manhood is intact. Men aren't supposed to be "neutral". Contained? Yes, but not neutered. Have strong opinions. Just don't let it turn into a tantrum.

[–]middaylantern0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OP's post is not particularly well flushed out. Basically use anger as fuel for change. Social change doesn't happen without angry mobs right? Neither does change to your lifestyle. Don't be angry at others, use anger with yourself to change. When you experience sadness consider if it is anger that has been repressed so long it only manifests as sadness then work towards a solution. If your solution is suicide, find help.

[–]Mukato0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you decide and you control it. You summon the anger and the calm, you are their master

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

I gotta agree, after a lifetime of anger issues that it's only good when you focus it and direct it. Being aware and letting it out as it happens in a productive manner can lead to great achievements and crucial changes in life.

I spent most of my life aimlessly dealing with being mad and it left me spinning my wheels getting nowhere. I ended up with stress migraines from bottling up so much anger. Becoming self aware after ending a dysfunctional LTR and finding TRP has helped to guide me and know when to let my anger known and how to use it.

Don't sweat the small shit, but don't hold it in. Understand why you're angry and improve.

[–]AlexIsWhack13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

This literally nails my experience today on the head. Long story short, I'm raging pissed at work all day. Come home. Still pissed. Look at my dump of a bedroom and angrily clean it in a tazmanian devil tornado of pure hatred so I could get a better head space going. Afterward I'm wondering what all just happened. Then I saw this post. The most opportunistically inspiring thing I could have read anywhere. My hats off to you sir!

EDIT: A word

[–]ChadThundercockII13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

What happened is that you sorted yourself out, bucko!

[–]HAZTE_5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't rely only on Anger. You have got to feel and understand 100% of your emotions. Every emotions you have is useful. See and take them for what they are. Only when you are in touch with the whole if yourself you can unlock your whole potential. Trying to rely on only one side will burn you out one way or another.

[–]S5551235 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

For the last 5 years I've been trying that power of positive emotions, only to get nowhere and end up with depression and some other shit. Everything changed the day I felt like a complete failure, and realized the only way out was to get mad and angry at my situation and start taking actions instead of trying to feel positive about everything.

Now I'm more productive than ever.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

I think the goat , Kobe Bryant , stated the same exact things you just mentioned . Let hate and anger fuel your success .

[–]The_Men_in_Boxes3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Didn't the bad guy with the shriveled face also say that in Star Wars?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao idk dude . I haven’t watched all of the movies

[–]The_Men_in_Boxes0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Michael Jordan and Lebron James are statistically better than Kobe in just about every way. Plus, both were better defensive players.

[–]do_it_or_leave4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I get exactly your message, that is my modus operandi.

There is nothing better to propel a workout than a huge dose of hate. Oh If I could train with that intensity under normal circumstances... I'd work out only four times a week because I wouldn't recover.

But I noticed three things from being just like you described:

I am giving it all or nothing, there is no 'healthy' balance.

I am daily on the verge of exploding on someone; I could fuck my life pretty easily if I get provoked.

Good times makes me lazy. I don't respond well to good feedback.

I am still trying to find a balance for my life, but let's see where it goes.

I have a friend who really needs to read this post, do you mind if I translate it? I am asking but I will do it anyway, thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get jealous. Get resentful. Get mad. Then get to work.

Most people only get 3/4 of the way there, which is why people think that only bad can come from jealousy and anger.

[–]Finessence4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

A bitch invited me over to help her with homework in her bed with her last week and then kicked me out when I finished the shit she had to do. I’ve been pissed off at myself for letting her use me and make me feel like a fucking pussy. I’ve started lifting three days a week and running five miles three days a week. Anger definitely works.

[–]BlackVale3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen 100%. I recently got fired because of some bullshit. My first reaction was to feel shitty. Then I started to think about what exactly happened. Then I realized that I was fucked a companies will alway fuck you unless you are working for yourself or valuable enough for them to care. I was steaming red. Then I got on the phone and started contacting people in my network and got a job that paid to dollars more the week after(still not where I want to be though).

[–]Austonmatthews3458 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy

I do train hardcore already, I have a body many men would dream of, but I'm not a pro bodybuilder. Just a guy who's trained for over 10 years consistently and ran 3 to 4 cycles when I was young and stupid and now I'm doing it the natural way at 26 and it feels so much more rewarding and my energy is through the roof.

The thing that pisses me off is my low social value. I'm a loser that lives on disability for mental illness and even though I've got the body of a Greek god, I'm still pissed off that I'm 26 and living with my parents. I feel like my circumstances and attitude literally repel people. I have no motivation to get a job because I'm not interested in being a wage slave or drone. The prices people get payed to work a minimum wage are criminal, it makes me sick that my disability cheque is about the same as someone working 80 hours a month. If I were to work I'd literally be getting paid $3 A hour because it just subtracts from my disability cheque. Call me an entitled prick, spoiled child or whatever, but unless I was on the verge of living on the streets desperate, why would I work for $3 A hour? I did that for 3 years while on disability already. Working my ass off just to be treated like dirt made me often depressed while at work, and it was a vicious cycle.

I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum, I'm fit and extremely healthy for a paranoid Schizophrenic, but I don't got much going on career wise. A lot of guys here have a decent career going in engineering or programming or whatever and their problem is they are overweight or underweight. I'd honestly trade all my muscle mass for some brain power, then I'd spend another year whipping that body into shape and trade it in for some more brain power.

I've always been one of those guys that values knowledge more than strength, and I've worked my butt off to become somewhat knowledgeable about fitness and health but I know where I come from and I'll always just be a meathead and it pisses me off.

I'd trade anything to be extremely intelligent to be honest. I'd even sell my soul. It pisses me off that I'm a moronic idiot, no matter how hard I try to be smart.

[–]NGEFan4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

You don't sound that dumb to me. And if you're not that dumb, then you could be pretty smart. Hell, if you really are willing to trade anything, then just do that, trade everything. Spend all of your time becoming the smartest motherfucker. Get John Forbes Nash Jr. smart. I mean, I bet you could.

[–]truthbrute 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Life advice: don't waste your breath on people like this. Dude has clearly embraced the role of the victim, he'll either come around in his own time or piss his entire life away with that shitty "I'll always just be a meathead" mentality.

[–]Kingslayer96692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude with schizophrenia: Read or Listen to the book "The Power of Different."

While I don't know what you're going through I have been in a psych ward for major depression and then my psychiatrist was a fucking maniac who put me on Depakote, Lithium, Seroquel, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, Adderall and Klonopin. I was a fucking mess because he misdiagnosed as bipolar and was reckless with his medication management. My doses of seroquel was 600mg a day it was miserable.

Have you sought a second opinion - you need to trust yourself, its the only way your going to beat this. The Power of neuroplasticity is amazing.

Are you willing to lose your social welfare if your not in fact schizophrenic?

[–]wolf__larsen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you miss the part where he said he is a paranoid schizophrenic? You are clearly uncomfortable with that, just trying to dismiss it with your social darwinism nonsense. Life advice: you can learn a lot from people who have challenges that are probably vastly different from yours.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem32 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start a small business such as car detailing or handy man. You can go on "task rabbit" and offer moving or trash hauling services. This way you make your own schedule and you are not a slave to anyone. I assume you have so sort of chronic mental illness like schizophrenia that is still controllable by medications and that you're NOT physically disabled.

[–]Glassland1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Invest in yourself career wise and you will rise above the mass of shitty jobs. You speak about dead end jobs like they are an inevitability. They are not.

[–]Jay-Kay441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Id like to be more meathead. I think i would get laid more

[–]PillDragon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personal Training is where it's at.

[–]Mithra90091 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just out of curiosity, as a schizophrenic, what do you think of the keto diet? I've read some cases where a person's schizophrenia was actually cured by rejecting sugar and carbs. Turns out, it was making their brain hyperactive. That was it. IIRC, putting schizos on a diet of tuna only also used to cure them but eventually, they just started having other issues again. This was explained to be because you cannot live off of a monofood diet.

So, as a schizo health-and-fitness-concerned individual, what do you think of keto?

[–]Austonmatthews3450 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I did keto for a short time before I was diagnosed with schizophrenia. I shredded fat quickly at the expense of some muscle and strength. That was my goal though, it was not like I was on anything else at the time. Typical keto results. I'll have to do some more research on what you are talking about as it sounds promising.

There are some studies that show creatine monohydrate at moderate doses can treat depression, PTSD and even schizophrenia. All of which I have suffered through at some point. I think the PTSD was the result of working on a drilling rig for a bit because it was a very traumatizing time for me. I've sent a former nurse of mine the studies and she refuses to read them and tells me that creatine is detrimental to my mental health. I use to believe her and threw out a bunch when it was really the stupid dosage of roids I did that caused the problems, not my creatine usage.

A wise man once told me, question everything you receive from a doctor, nurse, or so called "professional" because often they have conflicting information and have no idea what they are talking about.

At a time when I was vulnerable, and I supported it for years when I wasn't right, I bought into the scam that was brainwave entrainment, I spent all my disability money on programs that had tons of customer testimonials but no actual research to support their claims. I'd tell everyone I knew about it and get them to try and buy in to it as well not knowing it was a total scam. I look back at that time and laugh at all the hours I spent listening to these stupid annoying as fuck beta, alpha, gamma frequencies and such. What the hell was I thinking? I bet I sounded like a total nut job when I went around talking about this stuff. Oh well, it's in the past.

Getting off topic, but tl;dr: use creatine, question professionals, and don't use the scam that is brainwave entrainment, that time is better spent improving yourself.

[–]Mithra90090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you sure that brain entrainment doesn't work? I found that the first time I tried it, it did make a difference. I did feel my mind "sink" to a "lower" state when I tried Delta waves. It's just that after a while, the novelty of the sound wears off and so in order for the sound to have its effect, you have to consciously put attention onto it whilst also keeping attention on your breath. So it actually ends up being a two-pointed meditation rather than the usual "focus on your breath" one-pointed technique. I must say though, I've never spent a single penny on Binaural Beats. I knew there was a business on this stuff but I never saw why it was necessary and why the free stuff on Youtube isn't good enough. I mean, it's all just Beats, right?

And yeah, you shouldn't be afraid to question any "medical professional" and do your own thing since they're ultimately foot soldiers for the pharma industry's agenda.

[–]FaerieDrake1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Start a business yourself, you just need to do the planning and take the leap. If you like reading get "The 100$ startup", helped me

[–]The_Men_in_Boxes 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Anger is a toxic emotion. Going through life angry is a life wasted. Get excited people. Don't get angry!

[–]Kingslayer96692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think it's just easier to channel negative e-motions into productivity. You can do the same with positive emotions. It's like when I have a bad day at work I hit the heavy bag and its great catharsis.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the goat , Kobe Bryant , stated the same exact things you just mentioned . Let hate and anger fuel your success .

[–]Mithra90092 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

What about sincere feelings of gratitude for the opportunity to attain success, despite the past failures? What about the sense of serenity that comes with knowing that happiness is actually (albeit uncomfortably) attainable?

[–]truthbrute 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yea that's fine. I look at gratitude like arousal. If you have to do mental jumping jacks in your head to pop a boner then maybe you aren't really horny. Same deal with genuine gratitude vs. new age cancer thinking

[–]Mithra90091 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see. I think that if I see someone who's suffering is worse than mine, I should try to be grateful. I see nothing wrong with trying to be grateful. I see gratitude as a tool in the Stoic toolbelt to help keep you emotionally grounded and calm. My problem with New Agers is they've taken only this hammer and proceed to treat everything like a nail.

[–]massivewang2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was in the "anger phase" of TRP my first two years after swallowing the Pill. I was angry that I was so foolish/naive, at the wasted time, that I was such a giant pussy, etc. I made a "fuck you/the world" spotify playlist and would let the anger fuel my lifts. It was a challenging time but it was good for me, I needed to let myself be angry/feel anger after having been such a "nice guy" for so long (who thought being angry was never an acceptable response).

Anyway five years post TRP and the anger phase is long gone. I've more or less pulled a 180 and am now kicking butt and am happy with life/who I've become/what I've overcome.

[–]thewrecker82 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the reason bad break ups create more lifters than anything else. A girl fucks you up and you get pissed and hit the gym in beast mode. Controlled anger can be used as great motivator. But just blind anger can be dangerous. Sane applies to a fight or just training in something like MMA. Lose your cool and get wild you're not controlling your anger and just rushing in blindly. Use the anger and be smart with it. Start swinging wildly and sloppy you're gonna get caught easily by someone who has any kind of skill.

[–]Bergetson2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I love this. I had a girl cheat on me and I found out because my friend found her on Tinder. So anytime I'm feeling unmotivated I look at that picture and get mad. It pushes me to new heights because I never want that shit to happen to me again. And I want her to regret throwing things away.

Neither of those things may come true but it helps push me to think that way.

[–]thatguywhatshisface2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

People talk about anger and using it to your benefit but FUCK.. I can't seem to put on a fake smile around all of these fake men in my work life. It isn't their behavior alone that upsets me (it pisses me off but that's not the point), it's the fact that they are so fake towards me.

I just want to smash!

How do you progress when all you want to do is call people out on their shit!?

Anger clouds your judgement but I'm pretty damn sure that BULLSHIT does the same thing if not worse.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

learn to be long term greedy

[–]Resangel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ahh Stoicism.. hey, wait a minute.....

[–]HanzoMainKappa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Having vitality and vigor is far superior. Anger only poisons the brain in the long run.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are two things a man should never be angry at: what he can change, and what he cannot.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anger has been redefined as something "bad." The problem is the link between anger and violence. Man gets angry and beats his wife or his kids. Its this type of wanton anger and violence that is unacceptable. Besides that anger is just another emotion that serves a vital function to the individual. So definitely get angry and do something about your life but don't hurt innocent people in the process. I thinks that the message.

[–]Salted_Pretzel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I needed to read this. Got bitch slapped by the truth yesterday. I cried last night and I want to use all of this frustration to prove this bitches wrong.

[–]cjandstuff0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've had a shitty week. Hell, past few months to be honest. I was thinking about this very idea at the gym today, before seeing it on Reddit.
It was one of the best workouts I've had in a while. Learn to focus your anger. Yes it can cloud your judgement, but it can provide the push you need as well. There is indeed a balance.

[–]psychodynamic10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anger is a good topic for a post although there are pieces here which aren't on target. Anger is only the beginning of movement toward action. Freud wrote that depression is anger turned inward. Well, for non-biologically based depressions, there is a basis for this. However, anger is all about me. My pain. My struggle. My suffering. And it would be dangerous to put that anger into ourselves, shrug our shoulders, and mope into a life of complacency. No, we need to understand our anger and use it effectively to wake up. See our situations and perhaps our lives for what they are and use the anger to change the situation. But don't stay angry, because it can become toxic. Use it to wake up and motivate.

Anger is not just a masculine emotion. Men and women (and transfolk) have anger as well. It's an appropriate emotion that men deserve to feel just as much as women, although many are afraid of male anger because we are more powerful when we are violent. Well, screw that. We have a right to be angry, although staying angry isn't useful. So stop turning the anger inward and use it to wake up to go to do the things that will make you a better person.

[–]angryomlette0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Anger is a good emotion, only if you can channel it to improve yourself. But anger without channeling it, can be pretty dangerous. I find the channeling anger much better than suppressing it or forgetting it. Drives you in a way.

I used to do it during my High school. It was never a good idea for me, as it gave me splitting headaches later on. Plus it would make me moody.

[–]Merwebb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I used the anger to get out of the hole i was in. Anger led me to try my soggy kneestic ideas and womyn hating observations looking to disprove them.

[–]Arabian_Wolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Getting angry and mad more than 4 months ago when my much older brother lashed out at me and threatened me in front of my father, who (my father) processed to speak and laugh with my brother like nothing happened (along with giving him a house and ease his marriage process) was the switch for me to accelerate my self-improvement, a month after that I started lifting and I accelerated my speed in reading quality books, to this moment I still think about the unfairness of the situation that happened, as of right now I’m not speaking to either since that day, but at the same time, thankful for the anger it gave me to fuel it and channel it to self-improve and sometimes I’m afraid to become happy and content that I stop self-improving anymore, added to all that, my mom has cancer, she just finished chemotherapy and undergoing radiation therapy atm.

[–]bikermonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been planning to go for a MBA degree for over a decade now, and now I see little chickenheads advancing in their career while I stay at the same spot.

I feel no anger though, I feel disappointed at best.

How does one "create" anger ?

[–]1GreenPiller0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I tried and was always filled with negativity. I'm not Vegeta bro...

[–]ShadowverseRick-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lifting and pussy grabbing isn't gonna make life less shitty. That's like saying if someone gave you 20 dollars suddenly life is turning around. No...something good happened at that juncture. That's literally it.

Life won't get objectively better until people stop choosing to be ignorant, moderators are dead or in jail, or you're living out your dream job.

[–]segagaga-2 points-1 points  (10 children) | Copy

I harbour my anger. I nurture it and watch it grow into rage. It is the engine of my existence. It is the bright star that fuels my life, and gives life to other things.

Edit: lol @ downvotes from the betas. Bring them on. Your votes do not achieve anything.

[–]Shtafoo1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dude.... you're better off growing your neckbeard.

[–]segagaga0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

At least I can actually grow a beard.

[–]Shtafoo 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Then hide behind it and save your face for that cringe worthy comment. Good for you that you're alpha as fuck. How good are you at streetfighter and sega games again?

[–]segagaga0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do me, you do you. Keep being a passive-aggressive little bitch who spends his time reading random people's post history on an internet site. I'm sure that will get you far in life. /s

[–]HaythamTemplar23 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

God...this shit gave me residual embarrassment. Delete this comment mate, shits giving you a bad image.

[–]segagaga0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A man doesn't do things because he cares what other people think. That is feminine thinking. I do what I damn well please. Because I AM a man, unlike you. As if downvotes and fake internet points mean anything!

[–]maplemaximus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well, when you don't pay off loans, people think you're unreliable. Reputation revolves around your actions and the reactions of others, it's not a solely male or female thing.

Women worry about their imagine in vain things like clothing and trendiness, however I'm telling you that sounding like a cringy teenager that get's no pussy won't help you anywhere. Either be offended, or delete the comment and hold the L, and learn from your mistake.

[–]segagaga0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll take the 3rd option thanks, which is to not give a flying fuck what you think.

[–]ArabSigma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That comment is no different than what's being repeated in this thread. Straight from the OP :

But if real change and results are what you're looking for, choose to feed the monster within. Make "gratitude" a dirty word and embrace the green-eyed beast that stirs in the pit of your stomach when you see people better off than you.

[–]SocietalEngineering-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I can't believe this is getting upvoted... TRP has always been, for me, directly aligned with stoicism. What you are suggesting is the exact opposite of the "don't give a fuck" attitude that is always preached and respected around here.

Emotion is the enemy. When you are controlled by emotion, you are not in control. And then you lose.

If you need any proof, take a look at all the incels and MGTOWS that wander on through the Mano-sphere. They have enough anger in them to last 10 lifetimes.

Look at what good it does them.

[–]segagaga2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stoicism doesn't mean not feeling emotions, it means not showing emotions. This is a fundamental misunderstanding. Stoicism preaches not acting on emotion, but maintaining introspective distance. Emotions have significant intrinsic societal and survival roles. You know what a person who can't feel emotions is? A sociopath.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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