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I'm 27 and my girlfriend is 21 and the hatred is real

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Title I'm 27 and my girlfriend is 21 and the hatred is real
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Date 19 October 2017 04:35 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]omnicidial346 points347 points  (50 children) | Copy

Don't be bothered to give a fuck.

I'm 37 and girls that age still hit on me and because of how redneck the area I live in is, they honestly believe I'm in my 20s a lot of times because the people here who are my age have lived very very hard.

They say the camera adds 20 pounds but the meth adds 40 years.

[–][deleted] 245 points246 points  (47 children) | Copy

That's why Uncle V preaches to avoid the things that age you:

  • Drugs
  • Too much drink
  • Women your age

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev127 points128 points  (28 children) | Copy

And cigs. That’s one of the worst things you can do to yourself, and it’s totally optional.

The single best piece of advice my father ever gave me was: “Never put that for a cigarette in your mouth and you’ll never have a problem.”

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (20 children) | Copy

Yep. I smoked for 20 years, easily the dumbest decision I ever made. Quit 4 years ago and feel a lot better.

[–]Ahahaha__1018 points19 points  (12 children) | Copy

Congrats, I bet that wasn't fucking easy.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (11 children) | Copy

No, though vaping helps. Only thing that worked. On 3mg at the moment, should be quit of that too by next year. Nothing wrong with it, just hate owning shit, and still feel nicotine urges even with a dose that low.

Got 6 friends that also quit with it, only thing that ever worked. I tried cold turkey, gum, patches, medications, nicotine inhalers, you name it.

[–]Schwaggaccino5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

I vaped for about a year due to stress with school and work but ended up quitting a few months ago. Never smoked cigs and the craving wasn’t too bad. The reason why I quit vaping was because I felt something was wrong with my body. Perhaps it was nicotine withdraw but whatever.

Vaping is still smoking, maybe not as harmful as cigs but not as healthy as not smoking at all. You are at risk for stroke, heart disease and COPD. It’s just not worth it.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

It's not smoking at all. None of the harmful chemicals, no risk of stroke, heart disease, or COPD. I run 2-3 miles at a time, and hike long distance. No shortness of breath problems.

Nicotine isn't actually dangerous in itself. It's a stimulant, similar to caffeine. It's toxic, but only at high doses. It's all the shit that comes with cigarettes that are bad.

I'm a chemist, and have helped a master's student do a thesis on ecigs. We didn't find much. I've also done a lot of research on it. Can you show me the medical data that shows vaping is risky?

From what I've seen, it's about 96% safer than smoking, and negligibly riskier than not vaping at all.

Vaping isn't smoking, they are nowhere near the same thing. There is no combustion, which always produces toxic compounds. Some super high wattage mods can approach combustion temperatures, and have more byproducts.

[–]Schwaggaccino6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

I’m a fourth year med student.

I lied to myself saying “vaping is vaping not smoking” but guess what? It’s still smoking. You are still inhaling and absorbing gas that damages your lung alveoli. It may not cause cancer but it will cause other problems that are irreversible. That minor mucous build up in the back of your throat? That will eventually cause COPD. It’s not just cigarette smoke that causes COPD. Working in a coal mine will do it too. Some miners have never smoked before yet had lungs that turned to stone (fibrosis). Your lungs are EXTREMELY sensitive to anything but normal air.

In addition atherosclerosis - plaques in the blood vessels that eventually cause stroke or heart disease by blocking your coronaries. I worked with a pulmonologist and we saw many COPD patients. One dude was smoking weed, no cigs, and his COPD was getting worse. Another pt noticed nerve related pain from many years of hookah.

Last but not least - nicotine causes vasoconstriction which spikes blood pressure. Yet more risk for stroke.

Vaping/cigs/cigars/hookah/weed/etc is still smoking. I will look up some studies later but be advised, it’s not as safe as you think it is. Don’t believe me? Ask any pulmonologist. I’m not trying to scare you and you are probably right - there’s no evidence of vaping hurting anyone as much as cigs.... yet. There was a time many people thought cigs were safe too.

EDIT: Also my moms a dentist. Last time I went to her to get my teeth cleaned, she easily noticed they were stained from the vape. Imagine what it’s doing to your insides.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

I've taken far more chemistry than most med students, or doctors, for that matter. I've seen the data.

Smoking weed and smoking cigarettes, hookah will cause most of the same issues because of combustion. Burning anything produces particulates, PAH, CO, on and on. Vaping is nowhere close to the same temperature. No particulates, as it is a gas(that's what a vapor is, a liquid in the gas phase).

That is the difference. All the things you mentioned besides vaping are above the combustion temperature.

All the stuff you mentioned aside from smoking is particulate matter, which a gas doesn't have. Asbestos, coal, and such.

I don't need to be scared. Like I said, I've seen the data. Also, talked to numerous doctors. My dentist says my teeth are great, when I go in to get them cleaned.

Nicotine does cause vasoconstriction, but it's about the same as drinking coffee. I've been vaping for 4 years. My resting heart rate is 62, BP is 109/68. No drugs, just working out and long hikes.

How are you a med student if you don't know the difference between particulate matter and a gas? Or that vaping doesn't produce combustion byproducts? Or that combustion produces all the harmful things you mentioned? Even standing by a campfire is almost as risky as a cigarette, if you are breathing in the smoke.

There is no smoke from vaping. Once again, it is a gas phase. No particulates. No byproducts. Walking around a city is more dangerous for your lungs, by far.

[–]ShitBoy_StinkerBomb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

thank you! everytime someone says "you know that turns your lungs orange right?" or "thats still just as bad for you" i just have to roll my eyes. they never actually research anything, they hear someone else say it, so they say it

[–]Trooper_18681 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

My dad was the same, quit cold turkey from 2 packs a day for 10 years. He still likes the smell of smoke.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I hate it. I've occasionally bummed a smoke off my roommate when I was really drunk, and I had to wash my hands and brush my teeth after.

That's why I like vaping, it breaks the urge, and gives the hand to mouth habit of smoking. I quit cold turkey for 6 months in the Army, and still constantly wanted a cigarette, and got one ASAP when I could. I've also quit cold turkey on my own for 4 months, and always wanted a cigarette, and had to constantly fight it.

[–]Trooper_18680 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

funnily enough, over here shisha is a big thing amongst people my age. So once I learned how bad it was, I took up vaping as well. I honestly just like the smoke that comes out ahaha

[–]afkb39sdfb0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Any advice for those of us that keep trying?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Vaping. I know of 6 people personally, aside from me, that quit after 20+ years of smoking, when nothing else worked. I've also worked with a master's student, analyzing the liquid and vapor from ecigs(chemistry major). The stuff we found was minor, and in really small quantities.

The early tests are flawed, and used dry hits, and cheap ecigs for the test. That's why you hear about formaldehyde and other stuff in them.

[–]LazyMagus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

As /u/minimalist14 and my brother can vouch for---vape.

[–]Iron-Pencil3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

and too much sunlight. Frying the skin is bad. I suspect microdermabrasion is bad too. A fair skinned buddy looks terrible having done it.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Very true. I am very fair-skinned but I have long avoided too much sun. It probably subtracts a few years from my appearance. A Moscovitchka friend of mine says so, and she is brutally honest, and a doctor.

I use Sunblock 3000 for vampires when I have to be out in direct sunlight, etc.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Redhead here. I burn easily as well, got 2nd degree sunburn on my back swimming over a weekend when I was 14. I hike a lot, do 2000+ mile hikes where I'm outdoors 5 months sometimes. I wear a boonie hat, long sleeve shirt, and pants, always. Have a pair of sun gloves for my hands when needed.

I also have long hair, which protects my scalp when I'm not wearing a hat, and I grow a beard on thru hikes. Amusing how I've had people say I should get outside more when they see how white I am sometimes.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I find it amusing when people tell me I should "be careful" in the sun. I'm like, "Uh, thanks for the tip...it's not like I haven't had this same skin for 50 years. Oh, wait...."

[–]minimalist14 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah, I had one guy say I'm pale, I should get out more. I was like, "what, like walk 2200 miles across the country?"

Being on campus is fun at my age, aside from having to wait until spring to finish my degree. I'm 37 and look 24.

[–]Urishima1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I was in kindergarten, I took a puff from my babysitter's cigarette (sitting in the ashtray) while she wasn't looking. That lasted me until today, roughly 25 years later. Fuck that shit.

Now my mom vapes, and I think that shit smells like rotten fruit.

[–]sicknick45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have found 8 hours of sleep is a secret weapon as well. After starting my business I haven't woken to an alarm clock since I was 26

[–]omnicidial27 points28 points  (11 children) | Copy

Shit man I avoid excessive damage, not fun.

Moderation is the key to anything.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (10 children) | Copy

Fair enough.

Pot is legal here, but I avoid it......there are enough hippy stoners with man buns, and my target market is smart girls. Abstaining from pot is a +3 on a 20-die roll with the smart girls.

[–]GraphThis34 points35 points  (2 children) | Copy

Pot only gives you a Charisma bonus when interacting other pot heads. Otherwise you lose points on perception and smell funny to other girls.

[–]omnicidial9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a loophole if you're a comedian or entertainer where it's treated weird if you're set up a certain way.

[–]shaggyctes8816 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy

Nice rpg innuendo bro. I smoke pot occasionally but only the good stuff and once a month mostly. I agree to much of that shit can turn you into a pussy

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yeah it's legal where I live, I was a loser when I smoked every day. It just makes you so content with doing nothing with your life, I think it's fine in moderation though. I go to the dispensary like once a month and just buy a couple grams of the dankest shit they have on the shelf, take a couple hits once every week or two when I'm going to just chill and watch a movie or something.

[–]calantus4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's a useful tool in moderation, it allows me to be very self critical and see what I'm doing wrong in my life. Also helps me clean and work out easily, but I only do it at most 2 times a month.

[–]vwzwv13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's why Uncle V preaches to avoid the things that age you: Drugs Too much drink Women your age

Don't do drugs, too much drink or women my age. Got it.

Don't do women your age.. they don't teach that part in school.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

  • Marriage

^ An important addition.

Drugs are a tool. The problem is most people can't control the tool and end up jackhammering through the water main, power trunk and fiber optic lines all at the time time, which is why most people should never touch a jackhammer.

[–]LazyMagus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

because the people here who are my age have lived very very hard

You mean their life was hard or they partied hard?

[–]omnicidial1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some combination of both, aged like warm milk.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy200 points201 points  (43 children) | Copy

27 isnt even that old bro. Doubt people are looking at you like youre a 50 year old man with a 21 year old.

[–]Dargalo04123 points124 points  (6 children) | Copy

Brad Pitt is currently dating a 21 year old. Winning!

[–]BigThickLongAndHard-4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Brad Pitt is the Ten. Are you a ten?

[–]Dargalo040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stick to OPs post and my comment, mate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Brad Pitt isn't that hot, only because he's famous. Far from what I'd consider a 10. I'm an 8 myself, so not a 10 either. Did male modeling at one time, though.

[–]destraht35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think that its quite possible to be getting that hate in America now. In fact its becoming normal for toppest-tier guys to have a girlfriend or wife who is 5+ years older. Another thing is that the immaturity is so great that people have come to see 17-20 year olds as children instead of as naive adults. It seems that it all started way back when people demanded that child laborers should never again be in situations where they would lose their fingers in grinding gears in shitty Northern factories and then generations later after riding some waves it has morphed into a preservation of youthfully ignorance as an ideal. So there is a legal non-adult with only plus two years to her belt, which can be seen as an almost-child. Then he is a deviant male preying on the wonderfully joyous naitivity of youth. She isn't ready to have children for another fifteen years and she should be with another know-nothing complete boob of a blue pill 19 year old who rolled out of the public education clone factory just about the same time that she did so that the designed and targeted generation-N reinforcement can keep it all tightly packed together. Furthermore he is maliciously cheating an aged born again good girl out of her deserved relationship.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev71 points72 points  (30 children) | Copy

I’m 50 and my 2 OLTRs are 21 and 22. My side chicks are 19, 23 and 25. Anybody and doesn’t like it he can kiss my ass twice. Men and cool women are fine with it. Losers who can’t pull, and post-WallSPLAT! bitter bitches are not. But not my fucking problem.

You have one life. You can worry about the approval of others, or you can live it how you want to live it.

[–]Whitified13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

post-WallSPLAT!

cracks me up every time lmao

[–]ticklethegooch118 points19 points  (24 children) | Copy

Would you share how you introduced yourself to them and how did you deal with the creepy-old-dude-factor?

I definitely like what you are doing! I recently try to cope with the idea of not settling down indefinitely because of various reasons besides TRP ones. But it scares me a lot to think I might end up creeping out younger women and therefore need to fuck past-wall women.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev43 points44 points  (23 children) | Copy

Would you share how you introduced yourself to them and how did you deal with the creepy-old-dude-factor?

I am a singer and sometimes I am dragged to karaoke by friends. When that happens, I choose songs I've covered before and kill them. So I walked off stage once and two girls were looking at me with goo-goo eyes, so I thought "There are two girls who want to meet me", so I went over sat down and introduced myself. I went for the more introverted chick, because I knew she'd be lower mileage, etc., and she became OLTR1. She was 19 and I was 47 at the time.

OLTR2 and the 23 y.o. side chick I met through friends. They are 5'11 and 5'10 and I am 6'2". The 23 y.o. strongly prefers older men (as does OLTR1) and OLTR2 strongly prefers older men who are me.

The 25 year old was a case of mistaken identity as I was meeting a girl I was dating at that time out, and she was at the same place. She is basically the genetic twin of the girl I was dating, even though they are not related. She is maybe 1 cm shorter and 1 kg lighter than the first girl. Because I knew the girl I was dating would Totally Be Down For a 3-way with her, I chatted her up. It turns out that she was bi also, and so it was a win for me. The first chick is gone and I keep the 25 y.o. around because she's kinky and she's always good for a corner square in girl-girl-Vasya tic-tac-toe.

The 19 year old was just manna from heaven. 19, rocking body, digs older men. I could tell she was green lighting me, and she was giving me signs in large print because she wanted a "Daddy" - not in the 'role play' sense but in the older, Man in Full, sense.

You get past the "creepy old guy" bit by not being creepy. Also you have to pre-qualify the women. I recommend ramping up slowly. About half of girls want a guy their age, and not older than a few years, others will prefer that but be open to an older man and about 20% will actively prefer and older lover. Your task, as a hunter, is to figure out which girls are in the 20% and proceed accordingly.

I definitely like what you are doing!

Me also. /grin

I recently try to cope with the idea of not settling down indefinitely because of various reasons besides TRP ones.

My ship sails on.

But it scares me a lot to think I might end up creeping out younger women and therefore need to fuck past-wall women.

As I said, you have to be a hunter. If you told me at 21 I would still be fucking 21 year old girls when I was 50, I'd have told you you were high....but I'm not at all bummed out that that's the case.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm actually 21 right now. I've learned and implemented all the mental aspects of game (Abundance mentality, not being invested,frame), working on others(like financial stability, getting ripped) but I feel like I'm at a point where I can't learn anymore just reading this sub/Seddit, and approaching the amount of girls I regularly approach. Got any advice for me that isn't keep lifting or approach more girls?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

If you say that you've learned and implemented all of the mental aspects then yeah, the answer is "approach more girls" until you have the number and quality of plates that you want.

You should also think about other things you want to get accomplished: learning a new language, learning an instrument, starting a business, etc.

You may find this useful:

Life After 30: How to Be an Old Guy

-You have one life. Here's how to enjoy it.

[–]oceanize_official 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

“be sure to wear ur pretty underwear for me”...... classic

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks man. I really appreciate it.

[–]1empatheticapathetic3 points4 points  (16 children) | Copy

What's your health like at 50 and what do you do to maintain it? Any specific things other than the usual?

I think I'll be dead by 50. My genes are terrible.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev22 points23 points  (15 children) | Copy

You're only as old as the woman you feel, which makes me 19, 21, 22, 23 or 25, depending on the day.

My health is quite good, although I miss my 16 year old back and my 19 y.o. body mass. I get regular check-ups and also regular dental visits - it's amazing how many things that can go wrong start in your mouth. Proper oral hygiene is essential. Floss, kids, floss.

I eat clean, fresh foods - no processed crap - stay away from the stuff I say on here to stay away from - cigs, drugs, too much booze and women my own age. When I drink, I usually drink red wine, which has some positive health effects, but I don't get drunk. I know that for a lot of young guys, only "too much" is enough. I like feeling good, and waking up where I am supposed to wake up.

I walk 5+ miles every day. Not some days, not most days, EVERY day. I walk rather than jog because my knees and ankles and I have reached an understanding, and it's for the best. I also swim because it's good exercise, and doesn't kill your joints. In the summer, I play in a co-rec beach volleyball league because, for no real reason, I am super good at volleyball and it puts me around young, fit women. I am something of a natural athlete, or I used to be, so maybe that's it. The kids on the team (we have some interns, who are <21) all think I'm 35, but that's because they cannot imagine a man in his late 40s (I turned 50 after the season ended) not being in a wheelchair. /lulz

I lift, but not for bulk, or to cut. I will never have a 6 pack, and I'm totally cool with that. I simply want to say as healthy and fit as possible. Also, when I wake up in the morning I know why I have the aches an pains that I do, and I'm not thinking, "Well....that never hurt before." That's a real thing by the way. Shit hurts that you never injured, and the injuries stay longer and nag a bit more. It totally blows, and not in the fun way, like with a lady. I also stretch, do some Ashtanga yoga and get a massage 2x a month. I should probably do more stuff, but I'm kind of lazy. I'm lucky in that no signs of arthritis thus far.

The point is, you have to look after yourself. And for most of the guys on the board, NOW is the best time to start. Stay away from crap. Doritos? Chips? Cakes? Snack foods? No thank you. I like nuts just fine, fruits and veggies. Don't put shit into your body.

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Cheers for the reply. What do you think to many people on here inc many ECs being on TRT for the many health benefits and have you considered it?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have considered it but for right now, I don't seem to need it. I am going to have my doc check my T-levels next time I have my annual physical.

[–]setzer_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Check the work of "John E. Sarno" for a more clear understanding of pains from areas that were never injured. Its the most overlooked and discredited phenomenon in the western world. Once you realize how this works you realize many MANY MANY people suffer from psychosomatic disorders.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thx, although in my case it's more that I've become a "side sleeper" on a mattress that is a bit hard. But I will have a look, thx.

[–]peanutpepper0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

I'll preface this by saying, I have not read everything on the side bar or looked this up so maybe my answer is there. But I'll ask anyway.

What happens when you get real old? I mean at 50 you're still going strong. But 60 and over? What happens? Do you think you can keep it going? What's the end goal with this way of life?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

At 35 you could have said to me, "Well banging all these hot young broads is fun, now, but what happens when you're 50?"

Turns out, I'm happily banging young, hot women still. Why? Because I don't have a 48 y.o. wife telling me I can't.

Look, I am a confident and independent man, one that both men and women like to be around. Why would that change? at 70 I'll be the "cool old guy, who never forgot what it was like to be young." If I'm finally shagging women over 40, then fine. Or I could wife up any of my present (or future) girls, I mean if, gun-to-the-head, I had to. If I suggested marriage to either OLTR they would say, "How about tomorrow?" The 19 y.o. already talks of wanting my baby. So yeah, not worried.

But what are you really asking? Behind the question is latent bluepill programming design to pressure men into serving the feminine imperative by marrying used up bar sluts and being a "good worker".

If you spend your time worrying about the situation "when you die" then you aren't truly living along the way.

[–]peanutpepper0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

If you spend your time worrying about the situation "when you die" then you aren't truly living along the way.

I can understand that.

Allow me to explain what I'm really asking. I understand from your description of what you see the future of your way of life to hold, that sexual fulfillment is the primary goal, along with anything else that might come with it, perhaps someone doing the chores occasionally and the like, I don't know. Now, I read somewhere on this sub, that after some time the chase and game for women becomes less of a priority in a man's life, when one's mission takes precedence. That led me to think why not get a head start and find a woman that supports your mission and fucks good, right from the start. Perhaps like the women you say are dying to have your child. Let's assume here that the man is able to carry the relationship in proper RP fashion. Is that not the best course of action?

Then again, like you're doing, why not enjoy it as long as you can/want, then wife a woman who's down for you when you feel like it. Don't know how that would affect the progress of your mission but you seem to have experienced great results.

I'm a confused 20 year old, trying to wrap my head around this. I want to know what the best course of action is for me, even though I may have time before I need to worry about it.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Allow me to explain what I'm really asking.

Actually, it sounds more like you are asking "Why not use Red Pill tools to achieve blue pill goals?"

Read on.

I understand from your description of what you see the future of your way of life to hold, that sexual fulfillment is the primary goal, along with anything else that might come with it, perhaps someone doing the chores occasionally and the like, I don't know.

I never said sexual fulfillment is "the primary goal", although it is certainly a nice outcome. That said, the sub tends to focus on that because: young men.

That led me to think why not get a head start and find a woman that supports your mission and fucks good, right from the start.

LOL. "But Uncle Vasya, why not just find that One Special GirlTM ?"

So let me ask you, why only ONE woman? Why not 2 or 3 or 5? A man's wetware programming is to "spread the seed" so limiting oneself to only one woman is counter to that.

Second, what you are describing is a version of "Marriage 1.0", which worked for my parents but is broken, now.

Third, women are unnecessary to my "mission" to the extent I believe in "missions".

Fourth, I don't only have "abundance mentality", I have actual abundance. It has a very calming effect. It's part of why my life is very Zen-like. Why? Because I have substantially more control over how I live my life and spend my time than 95% of the Rest of Everybody. I don't know what my co-workers were doing at 3pm yesterday, but I was getting a massage. And I feel fucking GREAT today.

Fifth, what if you don't find that One SpecialGirlTM ? Unicorns are mythical beasts, son.

This is what I mean when I say that what you are asking is: "Why not use Red Pill tools to achieve blue pill goals?" You haven't shed your societal programming yet.

Perhaps like the women you say are dying to have your child.

The women I "say" are dying to have my child? /lulz. As it happened, I had a convo with OLTR2 yesterday. When I met her she was all about being a businesswoman, blah, blah, and she was terrified that she would get pregnant. the first time I banged her, she made me show her that the condom was still on my dick right when we stopped. Yesterday, she told me that she would be happiest if she was living with me, relaxing by my pool, eating good food, traveling with me, and making sure my dick is being sucked properly. That was the subtext anyway. It's also the effect that Confident, Male Leadership has had on her during our time together. She used to be stressed and unhappy; now she wants to be a calm, sexy little sandwichmaker for me. And one of the reasons I can provide that Calm, Male Leadership is because of abundance. I never have to "negotiate" out of fear (not that I would do that, anyway) that ONE woman will walk out the door with 100% of my pussy supply. So often in askTRP we see questions that betray one-itis, or "how do I get this girl back" etc. One of the first things I ask is, "Are you banging other girls?" and it's almost always "No." Thirst makes you do things you don't want to do.

Back on topic, women, at least feminine women, have a bit of an existential fear. One of the most competent women I know told me that she was afraid, almost moment to moment, about survival. It was odd to me, because (a) she was a capable and skilled worker, and (b) she was certainly young and attractive enough to find a successful enough man to lock down. Another woman I know (the uni professor who is in some of my stories) had a similar thing.

Coping with the difficulties of life is harder for them. I assume it is also for the faggoty little "soy boys" that seem to result from modern society.

Let's assume here that the man is able to carry the relationship in proper RP fashion. Is that not the best course of action?

{Emphasis mine}

Why? Why not 2 or 3 or 5 women who "support your mission"? You're hung up on this Highlander, "There can be Only ONE!" stuff, you're just masking it behind "Oh, this is better because", when, for me, at least, it isn't.

Then again, like you're doing, why not enjoy it as long as you can/want, then wife a woman who's down for you when you feel like it.

Why do I have to wife up ONE woman at all?

Don't know how that would affect the progress of your mission but you seem to have experienced great results.

I am quite happy with my life as it is. If that changes and I want to marry ONE woman, I have options available...and I always will. Maybe at 91 I will be the studola of whatever nursing home I'm in. Doesn't matter.

I'm a confused 20 year old, trying to wrap my head around this. I want to know what the best course of action is for me, even though I may have time before I need to worry about it.

Look, you should be working on being the best version of you that you can be. Success with women is a lagging indicator - IOW, "If you build it, they will come." The Greeks (the ancient Greeks, anyway) would say that, if you want to find happiness, do not seek it. Stop worrying about girls, and start improving yourself instead. Focus on you.

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Another perspective:

Pussy - even good pussy - is out there and will always find a good dick to land on.

The reason that you are having trouble is that you have never seen two or three girls fight over the right to suck your dick.

In a less sexualized way, women want to be with a man who CAN- not necessarily will- provide a good life experience.

The trap is that guys think that this is related to STUFF. Income, cars, dinners, and so on. This is only tangentially true. Its related to a man being able to stimulate their emotions in such a way as they believe they are having a good time with him, while he is doing his thing. Ever really look at those girly romance novels with the hot hero on the front??

He is looking into the distance with a mission. She is looking up at him.

Symbolic but true. A women wants to join a man on his mission. She is not his partner. At best, ( well worst, but thats another story) she is stress relief.

No part of your life can depend on a specific woman. Not sex, not mission, not kids, nothing.

Only when you have a few girls ready to share you do you truly understand this.

[–]Whitified-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I walk rather than jog because my knees and ankles and I have reached an understanding

You tried running? Not just jog, but 5-10 minutes of running? Doctors everywhere nowadays are saying that running is actually good for joints, and that you can do it even well past 60/70 years

From a hunter/gatherer perspective it makes sense too. Hunters/gatherers run their whole damn lives and live longer.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I had a broken ankle some years ago and that leg, while perfectly serviceable, has never been right since. It' is much more prone to patellar tendinitis, etc.

[–]throwawayclarkken4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have an upvote mister .

You have one life. You can worry about the approval of others, or you can live it how you want to live it.

Wish more people live by this

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't hate it, but I definitely noticed myself getting upset while reading this. Congrats, man. I'm happy for you, even if I'm jealous of you.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't hate it, but I definitely noticed myself getting upset while reading this.

That's the bluepill in you, dying.

Congrats, man. I'm happy for you, even if I'm jealous of you.

Hey, man....if you can see it, you can be it. Just think of me as lighting up the path ahead for younger guys.

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right? Late 20s men with early 20s women is pretty standard...

And I will add I'm banging a hot 21 year old right now and the pussy is great. She gets a lot of attention as well due to her attractiveness I'm not a big fan of that.

[–]ROFLance3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Right? I see where he's coming from though.. I'm 31 dating a smoking hot 21 year old Asian girl that can pass for 16. The stares I get are ridiculous lol... especially from high schoolers that think she's one of their peers.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It might not be your age but maybe the fact that she looks 15. If she looked 18 people probably wouldnt look twice.

And to be fair, it may not even be an age thing. People might just be looking at the man with the hot chick, thinking 'how did he get with that smoking hot 21 year old'

I think it becomes an age thing when its just really obvious.. like I mentioned 50 year old looking dude with some hot arm candy.

[–][deleted] 490 points491 points  (81 children) | Copy

When I was 39 I started dating a 19 y/o, we had a 4.5 year run and are still awesome friends (with occasional benefits). I walked around with a young smokeshow on my arm for years, and I've said this many times:

  • Young women had no problem with it.
  • Young, put together men had no problem with it.
  • Young losers and women over 30 hated it.
  • Old men fucking loved it, would shoot me thumbs up and everything.

edit: formatting

[–]csajhr38 points39 points  (5 children) | Copy

Wow. I dated a couple of 18 and 19 year olds at 40 and it was just damn awkward. Find out that 22 was the absolute minimum I could tolerate and 27/28 was perfect.

Took a hot 27 year old to the Bahamas with me and the hatred from the older women was definitely real. Made me feel good about myself, honestly.

[–]exmore33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy

What he said. For me the sweet spot was 24 or so for anything more than just a quick go. I took a hot 26 year old to the Dominican Republic and fortunately there was an equally gray headed gentleman that brought TWO hot 20 year olds with him to absorb the butthurt from all the ladies my age.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good on you.

I don't know if I could tolerate an airhead, but I'm willing to try.

This girl was 4.0 in theoretical mathematics smart (And has a supercharged hamster)

[–]BhuvanSikand5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Supercharged Hamster. Woah!!

[–]Shakydrummer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

With you there. Met a 27 year old and it's a breath of fresh air. Anything below 24 is just a cesspool of immaturity

[–]roodypoo92658 points59 points  (70 children) | Copy

Damn that is nuts. Where did yall find common ground? Just in terms of interests, social circles and the way people talk...was that a challenge? Was she in college at the time? Did you go to parties with her friends and how did they feel about it. Sorry if this is so many questions but seems like you did something right to date for 4.5 yrs...

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (61 children) | Copy

Met in a chemistry class, I was riding out the recession in college. Flirted in the math lab for a semester, hooked up over winter break. Deal was until she got to grad school... she fucked up her gre, ended up taking a gap year with me, wonderful time, I was working from home.

Total science nerd, lots of David Attenborough documentaries.

She leveraged her math degree into a high end phd program. I drove her out there, helped her set up her place, backpacked the coast, made love in a cabin overlooking the ocean, and I flew home alone.

She visited last summer, we drove too the eclipse.

She totally Red Pilled me, by her actions and what I learned. Branch swinging, the wall, af/bb, the works.

[–]HS-Thompson79 points80 points  (10 children) | Copy

made love

I believe that expression is banned here at TRP

[–][deleted] 88 points89 points  (9 children) | Copy

Fair lol we fucked like bunnies with nice tits

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy

Did you stare deep into each other's eyes before cutting to the sunset?

[–]dingman5815 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Alright alright keep it in your pants

[–]pbar6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

...and then, she felt his manhood awaken.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

His turgid member throbbing against his thin hiking shorts....

[–]killking721 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"The day has risen and so have I"

[–]Urishima7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Next you degenerates are going to start talking about hand-holding. I've got my eyes on you, you sick fuck.

[–]antariusz3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

First it’s hand holding, next it will be cuddling. Slippery slope!

[–]roodypoo9269 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cool, thanks for detailed answers man.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy17 points18 points  (13 children) | Copy

She leveraged her math degree into a high end phd program. I drove her out there, helped her set up her place, backpacked the coast, made love in a cabin overlooking the ocean, and I flew home alone.

Not trying to be a hater here but it sounds like you were a BetaBux or even a sugar daddy in a sense. Maybe thats what you meant by saying you were redpilled by her.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy

She used me to enter the real world, from strict religion. I was poor as dirt the first 2.5 years

[–]graduallywinning10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

You've done well. I don't care what others say. I can still appreciate and enjoy what a woman has to offer. Particularly a young unjaded one. And it sounds like it was founded on reciprocal sharing and not on you manipulating things out of her. I especially like that you were able to enjoy the experience for what it was and look back with positive feelings. This is one of the delicacies of life and I'm glad you both experienced it. Rock on bud

[–]EmperorofEarf9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t consider it that way since they both were getting what they wanted. If he was feeding her needs but getting nothing he was wanting, sure. If you have your shit together, it’s okay to actually enjoy the pussy you’re slaying. It’s extra chad if he gets home and his plate is already calling wondering when he’s gonna give her the time of day.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its hard to tell without context. But given that it was a 4.5 year LTR, I will cut some slack. I just wouldnt do that shit for a plate of mine tbh. The most shell get from me is a plate of chicken wings or some shit lol.

[–]_TheRP5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree completely. This is some Disney princess shit.

[–]Awes300meness-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, he better get a PhD too or she'll dump his ass. I could cite a study but mobile. Hassle.

[–]EmperorofEarf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So, women are as replaceable as tic tacs.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Common ground when you're an old guy like me fucking young girls?

It's in bed. Some want an ATM, they don't get far. Most simply want a real man who knows what he wants and isn't like the losers she meets every day.

[–]ShitlerParty 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Where did yall find common ground?

I find this isn't really an issue, because it doesn't matter how old a woman is, odds are I'm not gonna give a fuck about what she's interested in regardless. Anything besides having sex is generally a chore.

[–]roodypoo9267 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sure that is fine and good so when you date people what do you talk about then? Or yall just hook up and then you go watch tv and she goes into another room and reads or something? If it's nothing that is fine but I assume a 4.5 yr relationship the dude above probably had a few conversations with his gf.

[–]ShitlerParty 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I haven't always been this way. I used to care, and was basically a serial dater when I was younger (that is, I was in a succession of long-term relationships). Now I only date casually. Conversation is mostly small talk about pop culture or other bullshit that doesn't matter.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You should try fucking one who got through high school

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon80 points81 points  (3 children) | Copy

OP: awesome. Always remember how much you owe women, how much you owe older women, how much you owe the system and how much you owe society, ie absolutely nothing. You owe them nothing and they're entitled to exactly the same amount from you.

[–]thr0w4w4yaway 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Good to see you with the tag my man, have been enjoying your posts more than anyone else's for long time. You have this brotherhood spirit which I like and I always relate to your thoughts, while the others can be weirdos at times. Keep it up.

[–]nofilmynofucky96 points97 points  (4 children) | Copy

Haha I'm 35 and my last girlfriend was 23 (I was 33 at the time). I got called out on the age difference a couple times, my standard line was

oh, I think she's capable of deciding for herself who she wants to date, seems a little weird you'd imply she's not tbh

hilarious to watch them scrabble for an answer to that one

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy

I evidently give off a heavy "Don't fuck with me vibe", but the last time anyone decided they were entitled to an opinion, my reply was, "I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. Why don't you mind your own business? She chose me and I chose her. Go fuck yourself."

[–]TheTruthHelps3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Might be a little too cocky but I would say the exact same thing haha.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I operate a "Level 99 DGAF".

[–]Theomniproject31 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm 35 and my girl is 22. She has a rocking body and loves to take care of me. IDGAF what anyone else thinks, especially my ex wife who left me for some scumbag who beat her.

[–]trees_away29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best thing about getting a divorce is that 22 year old pussy still has that new car smell. ;)

[–]GR8AGN61 points62 points  (4 children) | Copy

27-35 is when women hit that "oh shit, im getting old" moment in their life and they become obsessed with settling down and reproducing. If your a man, in decent shape with semi-attractive features, and making a solid living, women will be fighting over you

[–]tuyguy30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy

I actually doubted that would happen when I was 22. Now I'm 27 it's all starting to play out.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Me too, I'm 26, finally starting to have some success in life and all the women around my age and slightly older that aren't married are starting to get desperate, it's a lot easier getting laid now vs when I was 22, but I don't want to LTR any of these women because I haven't met one I found particularly great yet and a month into dating them they are talking about how we should buy a house together and shit.. Not ready to be tied down anytime soon.

[–]xXx420VTECxXx8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You've got 30 more years as you ascend in SMV, don't sweat it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah if I keep striving for my goals I should be in excellent shape and making six figures by the time I hit 30. I've grown a lot just in the last 4, my early 20s and teens were shit.

[–]prodigy2throw22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think that’s in your head unless you look older than 27. I’ve gone out with 19 year olds at 26 and if anything I get shade from guys with uglier hoes

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm 37 and my FWB are 21 and 25 tried to date my age but man the baggage is just a little too heavy after 30

[–]SneakyTouchy16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

A woman has to really fuck up, often and repeatedly, to still be single at 30. I don't trust them on that fact alone.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers0070 points71 points  (8 children) | Copy

Lol wow. 27 yo guy with a 21 yo girl is not even weird or unnatural in any way.

[–]Venny_148 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy

You don't understand brother. You need to look at it from the perspective of his female peers, that is ~27 year old women. They see a guy in their age bracket who is collected and accomplished, yet he decides to go for a younger girl, making their sexual and relationship market plummet in value. Also, the 21 year old girl, she decided to hook up with him, which they view as stealing sexual and relationship market value away from them.

What to do? They demonize the man for going after the young girl, and try to convince the young girl that she is being taken advantage of. The guy is a creep, and the girl is our little sister that we need to protect.

What these old hags seem to forget is that both, the OP and his 21 year old honey, are adult, free agents in this world. She chose him as much as he chose her.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers008 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well yeah dude no shit, i understand their psychology behind it. I'm just saying that it's a stretch. Usually when people try to demonize something, there is a kernel of truth. But 27 & 21 is nowhere out of the ordinary.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear2226 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

I thought the same. Must be somewhere different from western culture.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It only matters to cunty bitches nearly the Wall who think they are "entitled" to a man of their age, now that they have hit the Epiphany phase, and think they are finished being bar sluts. Also, sometimes you run into a guy near the girl's age who is a little bitch because he has one-itis for her, and you're not young like him. They are more likely to try to shame the girl, though.

[–]PaulAJK4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

It's pretty much an American thing, we don't even have it in the UK.

[–]newls7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

We definitely do, I got shamed to fuck by women I knew when I briefly went out with a 20 year old girl as a 26 year old.

I also went out with another 20 year old girl when I was 24, and even men I knew with wags the same age tried to mock that.

Pure jealousy on their part, bask in the glory of their regret.

[–]PaulAJK1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Really? I've never seen much of it and I'm in my forties. I don't want to appear rude, but it sounds like it was maybe an SMV thing in your case. If guys with the same age difference were winding you up about it, perhaps they were pissed off you were getting better pussy than they thought you were entitled to?

[–]newls0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In the latter case it was more of a 'baby snatcher' piss-taking, but it's a possibility now I think about it. They were older than me and back then I was pretty quiet and shy so they perhaps thought they could get away with it.

[–]BewareTheOldMan27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy

The age gap (for your situation) is literally six years. That's not much. I don't see the point for the jealousy. If the gap were larger, then it makes more sense.

Anyway – the issue with women your age is they see resources they feel entitled to going to a much younger woman. Women in their early 30’s believe late-20’s/early 30’s men should date/marry in their age-range. This would be sensible IF these women were PRESENT when that young man was working hard to establish his kingdom.

Women in general don’t want to be there for the struggle, but are ready to lock a man down when he’s established and successful. In the meantime they are having fun with Alpha Bad Boys/Pretty Boys who have NO intent for serious relationships.

No SENSIBLE man has any business seriously dating/marrying a walled out, stalled out, used up, and has-been reformed Party Girl/Slut.

These women instinctively know they lost their chance at a good man and will likely see never see a Good Guy Alpha Male EVER again. If they were smart, young women would use their best years finding and landing a good man for life.

Third Wave feminists taught women they could do whatever they want without consequences, but forget that men ALWAYS have the final decision.

[–]imabadasstrustme10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's awesome man, good for you! I'm just out of college and I can't tell you how many guys are settling with average or sub-average looking girls. Interestingly, a lot of them have settled into regular low ceiling, "safe" jobs. They're just playing it safe in life.

It's refreshing to hear a guy whose killing it on both fronts.

How do you feel about taking validation from having a young girlfriend? I feel like its kind of dangerous taking validation from a girl in a relationship because it gives them power over you and makes you needy.

[–]zayooo10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

They are pretty much trying to shame you into submission because from what your wrote here you are in a great position yet you are unavailable.

What to do in such situation? Shoot you down. Great observation!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Myself and Uncle Vasily can absolutely back this up. I generally only date women 20 years younger than me, so you can imagine what women in their late 30s and 40s think of me (plus they hate the girls). Wait until you are 40 you are with a 21 year old with a slamming body if you think they are angry now.

[–]FREEDNA8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

If old wall smashed women are scowling at you with your hot bodied fun girl.. you are doing it correctly!

[–]420_PUNCH_YR_GRANDMA8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in the same boat. I'm 31 and currently plating 4 girls who range in age from 22-24. I'm not rich, but I'm good looking and look young for my age so it's easy. The chicks I'm plating love it, none of them have had a problem with the age difference. Wanna know who does have a problem with it? Other beta ass dudes. I've had 3 dudes in the last 2 months go behind my back and try to fuck my game up by telling these girls that I was no good, which of course had the exact opposite affect and probably made them even more into me.

I work with a few chicks who are either post wall or close enough to the wall to make no matter, and the jokes about me 'robbing the cradle' never end. It's jealousy.

Enjoy the fact that you can pull young, attractive women and ignore everyone else's bullshit.

[–]exmore10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

This... I'm 50 and my girlfriend is 36. We met 12 years ago and recently had a little girl. All the grannies think the situation is just great. All the men think the situation is just great. All the ladies my age, not so much. Because they're not real women anymore. They can't reproduce. Their looks don't open doors for them anymore. They don't get free stuff or validation anymore. They're not getting laid. And they're angry. So I know exactly where you're coming from.

[–]Fractal13rain3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you bro. Let them talk while they are hitting the wall, pop a beer :D

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I get the same shit when I'm out with a young one doing something. Also get death stares when I'm somewhere with my 20 year old daughter. Holy shit you should see the jealousy on even the young girls when my kid is out shopping with me.

My kid is on board for being my wing man when she turns 21 next month. She'll pick up the guys, and I get preselection from having her around. They don't need to know it's my kid, our that I'm older than their daddy.

[–]Mmagikarp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I'm in my late twenties, a boxer from Mexico with a full beard. I got them city miles on me. My girl, in her early twenties, looks younger than what she is. Workouts. I already knew my female friends were going to act up but I didn't expect so many guy friends to give me the Chris Hansen meme. Just because they married up with the first obsessed overused sharpie eyebrow corner slut chola that gave them the time of day. Scandalous. So be it, I made new friends. These aren't trying to sell me Herbalife.

[–]evergonitenitenigga4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

just turned 32. when i was 31 i dated a 20 yr old for many months. no hatred at all. maybe if im assuming from women my age group but i could care to notice

[–]HeavyJhon5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm 21 and Im planning to get a 16 years old gf (legal age in my country is 14), ¿do you think is a good idea?¿any considerations?

[–]Gaujo5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hell yeah dude, just know she's gonna be annoying as shit. You'll have to do some molding but it's probably worth it.

[–]bam2_895 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

27/2+7= 20.5

You're within the acceptable range.

[–]Friendly_Friends8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

39 here with a 21 year old girlfriend. In fact, of the many women I have run around with, the oldest in the last 10 years was 5 years younger than me. I don't even glance at women my age usually, because they are either toting kids, look haggard, or both. I was certainly blessed with decent looks and perma-age 28 face since age 28, but I think the fact that I push myself and give little fuck about potential obstructions to my success shows to younger women. They see SMV and even provider potential, but then they realize I am still a broke as hell (nearly finished) doctoral student in constant monk mode who is going to offer little more than the dick. I make it clear from the outset that I study, work out, and do what I want for myself and my goals. That does not mean I show myself to be a narcissist, but that I am a man who doesn't dawdle or second-guess my purpose. I decided years ago before starting grad school that I was not going to be the fat computer-lab type, but a renaissance man. I play guitar, learn languages, travel, work out, and try out new hobbies and adventures. I don't need women except when I feel lonely or randy, and they see that. "How many other girls are you doing this with?" is a line I often hear.

[–]TrustNoOne19121231233 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

What's your answer to this question?

''How many other girls are you doing this with?''

[–]Friendly_Friends6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Something like a sarcastic "Depends on the month," "I can't keep track," or a "you know, an ordinary guy like me doesn't have time to play around." It usually elicits a "you're a player" or an eye roll. I'll add the disclaimer that it's never asked seriously, and I think it would only be detrimental if I took the question seriously.

An example is about 2 months ago a plate asked somewhat rhetorically "ugh, how many girls have been on this bed?" to which I said "feel how firm this matress is! You're one of the lucky few." She said "Yeah, whatever." Then I immediately went back to making out with her again.

An advantage of being 39 and single is there is no doubt in anyone's mind you have mileage, as long as you have your shit together. Definitely not a downside.

[–]1Zanford3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good man. Either DGAF about the haters or let it energize you via amusement and the realization of the implicit compliment it is. Catching flak = over the target.

[–]shortmanlongfingers 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

village

India confirmed. What is great success over there, ten dollars an hour?

[–]ahoooley6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lul successful man dating village women btw

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

36

. plate is 25 ltr is 29. other plate is 23?

fuck em.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly it doesnt look exceptional to me the fact that a 27 yrs old guy dates a 21yrs old girl...Thats how it should be...Im 32 and i and for my liking im not dating a girl older then 23...actually i always like a lot the one's which are around 20...

[–]professorjon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm right there with ya bud. I'm 30 and my gf is 19. Let them hate. It's not immoral, it's more natural than dating girls your age, and if you're legit and honest, you're a lot better influence on her than anyone her age.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just curious, what do you say to shut them down?

[–]thefisherman19611 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of my good friends was dating a 19 year old girl when he was in his mid 30s. He's blue pill so I told him to not let anyone shame him for his sexual preferences.

One of his friends was incredibly beta and shamed the fuck out of him. They got into a big argument and haven't spoken to each other in years now. Good riddance he says, don't need that kind of toxicity. Btw beta friend was also divorce raped with four kids.

[–]freethinker19761 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to date a 20 year old girl when I was older than the OP. Everyone pretty much called me a pedo. I found it funny that she was old enough to do pretty much anything in this world including being a doctor but she couldn't fuck an older guy.

[–]Mr_Talent1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seriously lads, do the same thing. Find a nice young chick with a slamming body and great looks and red pill her.

Yep, I'm just about to go to the supermarket now! I heard they received a fresh batch last night!

She makes me breakfast, cleans up, etc and caters to my every need.

I'm going to assume this relationship of yours is very very recent! Either that or you found an unicorn.

It reminds of this dude I know. Fresh into a relationship he is telling me "This girl is the best I ever had! She cooks for me, breakfast, lunch and dinner! When I arrive home after work she has a hot bathtub and a cold beer waiting for me. When I want to play videogames she is cool with it and doesn't bother me!"

A couple of months later she was gone.

Regarding everything else you wrote, nothing new there. Of course those hitting the wall feel jealous that they can't land a successful man because the competition is some much younger and hotter!

[–]Redteen2245 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm almost 18 and smashing a (surprisingly hot) 40 year old. Everyone hates it. Hopefully someone can give relevant advice like OP asked for

(sorry to piggyback off your post OP :p

[–]BewareTheOldMan15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm almost 18 and smashing a (surprisingly hot) 40 year old.

No issues from me or likely any other man on TRP. However, I have recommendations:

-See the relationship for what it is (Hot Cougar/Young Stud) -Don't fall in love. Have fun. It's likely she feels the same. -It's a long shot, but don't forget she can STILL get pregnant. -Learn useable information that will be valuable in future relationships.

I once told a nice looking older woman, they are essentially relegated to the "Practice Squad" if they have young men chasing/looking in their direction. They generally have interest in men a few years older and very established.

Middle-age women still want to travel and "live life" because they're "mature and sassy." If they can't find the mature and appropriate age-range man they want, then a younger man will suffice as a place holder...just in case Mr. Wonderful enters their life.

The main issue for women in their 40's is that 40-55 year old men have no interest. They should go older, but their biggest complaint is playing nursemaid/caretaker to a man in his 60's. They screwed up by divorcing a good man, marrying a loser with the marriage ending in divorce, or waited too late to marry.

Very FEW men will entertain the idea of marriage/kids from an older woman. I'm sure there are these type relationships among regular folks, but a celebrity example was Ashton Kutcher/Demi Moore. Kutcher eventually left the marriage, married a younger woman and produced children.

The current French President, Emmanuel Macron, married a much older woman who ALREADY has adult children. He's still going strong with her, but for how long? She's 64; he's 24 years younger than his wife.

Don't be this dude. If you ever get serious/marry, trade up for a younger model.

The age dynamic will rattle some, but she is mostly getting high fives and a mix of light jealousy from her friends.

[–]Redteen2240 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you for the in depth response! Now i definitely dont hope either of my parents comes home in the middle of it. That would be mortifying.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Backing up what the dude said. Your gal would treat me, at 45, totally differently.

[–]db10100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not enough cougar- hunting on this sub

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like a problem with living in the moment to me. I never notice these things. Hell, I don't notice when women are eye fucking me unless I'm with no one and have nowhere to be (so, never). Those scowly fucks don't matter and if you're living in the moment you won't notice. Enjoy your slam piece.

[–]rmbarnes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

21 to 27 is a tiny age gap.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

when i was 31 i started dating a 21 year old, dated for over 3 years. never experienced any of that shit. i also look like i'm 25 and i'm 35 now, so maybe that's why

[–]sherrif_taylor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am happy for you. Are you from the USA? I don't think so, but that is just by the way you used the word "village". Bless you and have a great time!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That shouldn't matter in the slightest especially given that you're in shape & successful (people make exceptions for attractive people).

I'm 23 right now & honestly wouldn't even have an issue dating a 21 year old when I'm 40. Age shaming is just a feminine social convention. I'm willing to bet the hatred you've received has been from post-wall females.

[–]bastardstepchild0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When I was twenty fucking two, I asked about a pretty girl - I was told, "holy shit, dude, she's only 19, what the fuck is wrong with you?"

[–]Tzeentch_Gnosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So guys by smart do you mean like tenacious and stays at things long enough to get good or insanely high general mental ability with depth and versatility as in are you all sapiosexuals or ball breakers who enjoy those same traits in women?

Cause it's rare to find a really hot/really smart girl in doing this you limit yourself since you are trying things. If Feynman could deal with dumb blonde models as a Physics Nobel Prize winner so can you.

Anyways places to look: Ècole Polytechnique ENS Eastern Europe France Awesome!!

[–]rikleeRed420 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

hahaha its awesome how the tables start to turn at 25

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're 6 years older, that's nothing.

[–]Sutanrei0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Disgusting jealous cunts, 18yos are the best.

[–]Jonlife0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Just don't let then move in with you. I don't even let them sleep over.

[–]Noveno0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly same ages, same comments, same experiences, same everything. What I'm finding more curious is the older I get the more attracted I'm to younger girls. When I had 20 years old (also pretty bluepill) MILFs turned me on a lot, but each year the interest has been decreasing and now it's close to zero (except for some 10/10 cougar).

But now the problem is I'm a lot into 18-19-20 years old, for me it's the sweet spot. And I say it's a problem because for me it's so hard to meet (because social circles) girls of that age, thanks god Tinder exists...

[–]AnInstant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

26/22 here, girls my age (4 years older than my girl!) rant I date a child.

[–]Nomfwic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As im typing this im preparing for my final exam to finish off a 3 year course that will see my salary multiplied by 7 ( i already have a great position lined up at a new company) . To make things even better its in the town that i grew up in. My body build and style is vastly better than it was before i left and honestly i can not wait to experience this.

Hard work always pays off!

[–]victor_knight0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

She makes me breakfast, cleans up, etc and caters to my every need.

Just wait until after you're married.

[–]clint_bronson0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

a 6 years differnce?? Only? That's nothing, probably the norm. Seen plenty of couples where the guy has a 10 year difference. Funny enough, those seem to be the most stable relationships.

[–]BusterVadge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm 43 and my girlfriend is 28. We first started dating at 40/25. You should see the looks that I get from hags who are 10 years her senior.

The looks that I get from guys are totally different, I sometimes get a smile and a thumbs up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I'm 35 and was "dating" 16yo (legal in my country) and even my best female friend (my best friend girl) said "pedophile" to me so.. they really HaTE it.. aaand I LOVE IT :D btw she is 30yo so you know...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, 16/35 is kinda weird indeed, she's in high school, besides being a bad idea.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think I've said this here before but it's really telling how this is the only relationship that's ok to shame and it's the one most favored to actually produce healthy children (except for both man and woman young). Old woman/young man, man/man, woman/woman, transthing/transthing, those are all great. But follow basic biology and date a fertile young woman and you're a creep.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ahh the feeling of thots who when in their teens and early 20s used to getting railed by 30 something success Chad, now bemoaning the very thing they enjoyed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

wait until you're older. i went pretty hard on TRP a while back and i'm mid 30s, and still banging smoking hot girls 21-24. i was going to the same places for years, but when i started bringing hot young 20s, suddenly all the door guys suddenly knew me, the post-wall women sneer, and female bartenders suddenly want to fuck me. i get hatemail on dating apps because my age range is much younger than me. and even then, i'm only mid 30s... i'm sure it continues to get much worse the older a guy gets. post-wall women think they're entitled to their own definition of "age appropriate" men and high value "age appropriate" men get more and more rare as they get older. and when they see a high value "age appropriate" man with a much higher SMV woman, it makes them either want to fuck you or hate you.

rollo's SMV chart lines up to the T with real world data. there's a chart that graphs actor/actress ages, and another of OKC user rating data, and those were published after rollo's and just proved him right. women are at their peak 21-24. men rise slowly until they shoot up late 20s / early 30s, and then fall off late 30s. if you can't get AND keep 21-24 yo women while you're 28-37, it means your SMV sucks. if you keep going past 37, it means your SMV is still banging.

assuming you're also a non-celebrity like the rest of us, you obviously need to lift (should go without saying). you also have to realize the way you talk with young 20s is different from how you talk to older women. not only is there a lot more teasing going on, you have to cut the statements and phrases and mannerisms that dry up the vag and/or don't give her tingles. for example, i'm in tech so there were a bunch of nerdy phrases i kept saying... even simple shit like admitting you're a nerd... that's cool as fuck to post-wall women (because they're looking for betabux). none of that shit is cool to a 21-24 year old who is looking for a hot cock to ride. now i never talk about my job unless asked, and even then i just talk about my industry and vaguely what our company does... not all that nerdy coding and data and algorithm shit.

[–]markpf730 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Beta economists defined the socially acceptable age gap in dating is: (your age) divided by two then add 7. (27/2)+7=20.5 . Bitches be crazy...

[–]swordshab-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Village” lmao where u live bro

[–]chrisb5583-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

With a hot 21 year old girlfriend, why are you even taking the time to consider what other girls are thinking or saying about you?

[–]cashmoney_x-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I don't want to brag or go into detail"

Yes you do. That's what this whole post is. Otherwise, what does "Seriously lads, do the same thing. Find a nice young chick with a slamming body and great looks and red pill her. She makes me breakfast, cleans up, etc and caters to my every need." have to do with your topic?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like you found yourself a maid, not a girlfriend.Do you pay her?

[–]mrhurttastic-5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Golden rule is usually half your age plus seven gents

[–]Xoramung11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

BS, anything over 18 is fine.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

18 or whatever the legal drinking age is in the country... whichever is higher... it's a pain in the ass to hang out with women who can't legally drink. and under 18, many girls look creepily young.

[–]mrhurttastic-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If ya don't GAF it's whatever, I'm talking bout other people saying shit about it



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