aka "How to trigger half of the planet's population in one day by coding a mobile phone app".
2 quotes to illustrate the mindset you're dealing with:
But the "real me" has nothing to do with aesthetics. I cannot believe I'm typing this right now, but the value of a person has nothing to do with what they look like.
If the "real you" has nothing to do with how you look, why use makeup and why did ALL of you get angry at the mere POSSIBILITY of having the makeup removed?
My main qualm with this app is not so much the fact that it doesn't work well (or at all), but that it implies that by wearing makeup you're somehow masking yourself and not showing off the "real you." The whole idea is ridiculous, because whether you're wearing a pound of highlighter or nothing at all, you're still you — and that's something that should always be celebrated.
Perfect example of hamstering by omission. She want's to be valued for the "real her" - the "real her" she wants to show you, not the "real her" she doesn't b/c it would make her look unattractive.
Let's get some technical stuff out of the way:
1. The MakeApp doesn't work as advertised. You cannot remove the "makeup pixels" form a picture without making an empty hole in it b/c the image is "flat" bitmap, it only has one layer of data, the pixels themselves the picture. All the app does is apply another filter to "remix" the existing pixels. The filter itself does not show the true face of the person, it shows what filter wants to show, just like "dogface" does.
2. That being said, a working NoMakeupApp WILL appear. It's a matter of amount of data you have (this is the picture with makeup, that is a real "without makeup" picture) and answering the question properly (what algorithm transforms the first one into second one accurately). In that sense the MakeApp cheats b/c it didn't learn to remove makeup like above, it only applied another filter that presumes certain constant elements in the faces. BUT it is only a matter of time before we have enough will, data and technology to make it happen for real. Can't wait for the shitstorm.
The overwhelming majority of women went apeshit ballistic. I read a lot of comments on android store and (no surprise there) men went "thank you for app LMAO" and women went copy/paste " blah blah sexist misogynistic yada yada" occasionally interspaced with "don't use so much makeup then" (the prettier ones mostly) and "app doesn't work". Here are some quotes from articles in MSM:
MakeApp is a plot to make men think all woman are ugly
It probably comes as no surprise that the app was created by a man
Please refrain from more apps that target women
anyone who pays a dollar to look at a woman (...) without her makeup on is just a f*cking creep
It’s pretty rude and vaguely sexist to try to strip women, or anyone who enjoys applying makeup, of the eyeliner, blush, and cover-up they’ve applied to their face
I pity the people who are using it with the intention of figuring what others really look like
MakeApp- the app that strips away make-up- insults the intelligence of men
It plays off the tired idea that your beauty products are tied to insecurity and falsehood, and that simply isn't the case
Whether you use makeup to show the world the self you want to be, for a quick confidence boost in the morning, or as armor before you go out into the world, how you approach makeup is a choice that people make for themselves
It relies on the idea that people use makeup to "trick" others about their "real" self, which couldn't be further from the truth.
MakeApp is the brainchild of once-Kremlin-linked, Russian founder (!!!!) Business Insider characterized Gabrelynanov as a “pro-Russia propagandist.” (!!!!) the app creator and his father ran media network LifeNews, which has ties to the Kremlin. In 2015, a Mashable article called Gabrelynanov a “pro-Putin media darling.”(!!!!)
And the idea that somebody might need an app to help them figure out what somebody’s face — celebrity or normie — looks like without makeup is comical
(...) I don’t love the idea of an app that exists solely to strip women of their makeup without consent
We must ask ourselves: what exactly is the purpose of this app, and what is the male equivalent?
How it all translates into practicality:
1. Women are PRIMARILY concerned with how they look, both "how do I actually look?" and "am I perceived as attractive?". No amount of feminists/women talking about "men being sexist and sexually objectifying women" will ever change the fact that it's ALWAYS women who choose themselves to be objectified - as proven by the reactions to the app women had - "why would you want women to look unattractive?" is their main concern.
If she's mostly concerned about how you perceive her, you should expect/assume being lied to at some point. Small lie, small omission, small adjustment. She will bend over backwards (and forwards if you're alpha) to change your perception of her if she decides you're the one she should stick to. Therefore, reveal as little as you can about what you find attractive and what you look for in a girl, especially if you're browsing candidates for an LTR. She will make herself into "greenflag unicorn" despite having RedFlags all over her. Don't give her the ammo to shoot you.
2. Despite all the hamstering ("I don't care about app BUT..."), women instinctualy (as demonstrated by outrage) know that their primary value comes from how good looking they are. Or to be more precise - "how good looking am I perceived to be"?
She will ask you about this in one way or the other, her question will not be about how she really looks like ("objectively you're 15lbs over your BMI"), but about how high on the "ladder" do you place her. Any other answer than "compared to Cindy or to Jane?" will mean that you perceive her as Number 1. In womanese that means lack of dread and leads to her slacking (b/c she doesn't have to win you over anymore). In TRP terms in communicates lack of abundance (b/c you should have your Cindys and Janes anyway).
3. Women will always stick together when it comes to defending their collective image. 3,5 billion (!) women wants to keep you in the dark when it comes to how she really looks and how she really behaves when nobody's looking. They do it without any BP conspiracy that would coordinate or coerce them to deceive men. What the MakeApp "controversy" revealed to the general male-public is how much women are united in the deliberate deceit and how much they hate (actual, emotional hate and disdain) anyone who exposes even a glimpse of what they are underneath the mask they show to the world. You only have to look at words the articles and comments use to see that women will vilify any man that does that.
Never discuss women with other women in negative light, even if you're "100% absolutely convinced" that the girl you're talking to is your ally b/c the discussed girl is her competition. It's an illusion. If you complain (especially in RP terms - "she's a slut, she drinks too much, has only male friends" etc.) about one girl - you're only giving away the information about "what needs to be hidden from you/men".
Don't openly criticize women for behaving like women do (AWALT, AF/BB, slutiness, deceit and so on) - you will be labeled as an enemy of womenkind, b/c you don't help them cover up their flaws. This in turn sets you up for 2 things - being ostracized by girls (that WILL communicate your treason to other women) and being shunned by other men (women will complain to men that you're an asshole and treat them bad, men will eat it up as it plays on the "savior instinct").
4. If you're somehow (or already) on the receiving end of "gynocentric hate machine" - do not DEER. Since you're being attacked for telling things how they are, for exposing the collective and deliberate deceit - NOTHING you will say in your defence will make any difference. You're dealing with emotional based attack, therefore no logic or argument will save you.
Despite this looking like a serious witchhunt - it's nothing more than a broad shit test. Hold frame, remain calm and: agree and amplify first (you will not adopt their frame, humor disarms negative emotions). Reframe as second best ("app helps women where to apply makeup for best effect"). Can't beat them, join them - as third ("this is an app for women, not sexist men who stalk girls online"). And NEVER apologize (you lose frame and self-worth, you gain nothing).
Finally - remember the Martix quote: "If you're not one of us, you're one of them". Any man who is not aligned with (specifically) TRP is potentially someone who will stab you in the back to "defend women from your misogynistic attack" for even a brief chance of pussy. Therefore whether he's a Trump supporter, alt-right or conservative treat him as live ammo when it comes to m-f topics. They might be self-proclaimed "woke" and "redpilled", but if they don't "do" TRP, they are a potential BP that might go off in the presence of hot girl.
TL/DR: Keep TRP insights about her to yourself ("The first rule of Fightclub is..."), observe not talk ("Look what she does..."), don't criticize women openly (instead reward/punish using your attention).
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