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You will Lose - But you're not a loser

by LiveAFTSOV on /r/TheRedPill
18 December 2017 03:37 AM UTC

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For guys going through the struggle and the grind right now, for guys getting botched approach after botched approach, lemme just say, it's ok man.

Internalize these ideas and you will start feeling better about your sexual interactions.

    1. You wont get all the girls - but you will get girls

An immutable law of life is not everyone is going to like you - if you go out into the world expecting to have every women you encounter drip for your seed, then you're in for a rude awakening. There is no secret phrase to activate every girl's primal brain and make her attracted to you.

There is, however, a fantastic little red pill that will help you learn how to get girls. If you follow the advice given by TRP, you'll still disgust some girls, but guess what, you'll also see more girls ogling you, and even more girls becoming open and receptive to your advances.

"Some girls hate you, some girls love you. Most girls wanna see whatcha got."

    1. Not every women will like you - but some women will crave you

You want girls who are at your beck and call - the ones who see you as their #1 cock. It's better to be the guy who girls make time for, than the guy who girls have to check their schedule for.

Dont break your back trying to impress a girl who sees you as "Meh, MAYBE we'll hang out, let me get back to you on that," ESPECIALLY when you have a cock thirsty plate throwing herself at you day and night.

Variety may be the spice of life, but why put yourself through the stress and trouble of jumping through one woman's hoops, when you have another woman who will give you sex on command? Women who like you will make your life easier.

Now sure, not every women will start off craving your dick, but with enough practice, time, and exposure, you can move "meh" women to the "I NEED you" side of the scale, but be forewarned, you can also move "meh" women to "stay away from me!"

If you go around thinking "man I dont need this hoe, I already got another one just WAITING for me to give her the dick" you're gonna have a good time.

    1. There is no one special girl - but there are some girls made specially for you

On the most basic level, women have warm vagina holes that are a great source of pleasure. They are ALL the same in that regard. Some, however, you click with, like puzzle pieces.

But that's all it is - a click. You two are highly compatible genetic puzzle pieces that snap together. She is the fisher price puzzle slut slot, and you are the shape that fits inside of her. You may be able to fit into other sluts slots with enough tenacity, but the truth is, nothing will feel as easy as being with a girl you vibe with - and when the drooling 4 year old named life decides to fling the toy across the room, launching you out of your slot, dont worry, cus fisher price makes the millions of the same puzzle game.

Even if you cant find another fisher price puzzle, you can still probably shove your cylindrical shaped puzzle piece into other sluts slots, but we all know it just wont be as fun as the sluts slots made for us.

    1. No girl belongs to you - except for in the moment

When you're with your girl, you should be the only person on her mind. Her cell should be on silent, you two should be enjoying each others company and intimacy. This is your turn with her.

Once that date is over, it's fair game, man. If you put a leash on a dog, you control it, when you take the leash off, the fucker is probably gonna run around and sniff every butt in town until it gets a new owner, gets run over, or starves to death. Some dogs get captured and returned to you. Other dogs stand there, waiting for you to put the leash back on, and other dogs wander around, but come back to you when you call their name.

Women are like that, when you're not in their presence anymore, that's it - your turn with her is over.

They'll talk to their orbiters, they'll talk to their side niggas. Don't get jealous cus it's gonna happen.

If you finished fucking and you're just doing your thing at your work desk while she's laying on the bed, it's fine, you had your way with her and are onto other things, she's gonna pull out her phone while she waits for you to start something else up.

On the flip side, if she's calling and texting other guys while you two are doing something, like trying to sex it up, are cooking dinner, bowling, coffee, are watching a movie together, on a date, ice skating, w/e you're doing it wrong bro.

    1. All women are like that - but not all women do that.

"Women are like guns - they're fun, dangerous, and all share the potential to inflict some serious damage. Treat them as if they are all loaded."

You've heard this Red Pill Whorerr story before: Man and Women are in an inseparable relationship until suddenly it just happened and she jumped onto the next dick.

Spare yourself the heartache and get it through your head that All Women are Like That.

Be okay with the potentials, be okay with nature - man. She aint designed to be monogamous. It's never gonna happen.

It's better to accept the potential of it happening and going about your life, instead of sitting in paralyzed fear, paranoid about the possibility.

Ask yourself, if a better version of you came around your girl, would she leave you for your better? It's you, exactly, except he's better at being you. I say, not all women have the chance to do so, but I think they would. And that's okay.

All guns can fire, but not all guns are loaded.

All women have the POTENTIAL to cheat, but not all women cheat.

All Women Are Like That, but not all women do that.

    1. You will Fail - But you're not a failure.

Man, I've approached girls who laughed at me, who awkwardly exchanged glances with their female friend and walked away, who made me wait for them for months while they banged chad, i've been there man. I've let guaranteed lays slip through my fingers. I've failed.

But you know what else? I've gotten the attention of a bombshell, and fucked the hottest girl I've ever fucked. I've retained a model as a long term plate. I've fucked girls just by asking them if they wanted to be friends with benefits.

Seduction is a BJJ Dojo.

The white belt gets tapped out 1000 times in 1000 different ways. He'll score some submissions here and there, and eventually he'll learn how to escape bad situations, place himself in good ones, and before you know it, the coach is calling him in to break in newbies.

No black belt master got to where they were, without being submitted countless times.

And you know what happens when you get that black belt? You STILL get submitted.

By having the knowledge and experience of a black belt, you will make it a heck of a lot easier to win, achieve, and force submissions... but...

Life is funny!

You can know all the right moves to make, and still lose.

And that's okay man, life is half chance. You can only do so much to influence the outcome.

You will never be alpha enough. If you give a women the moon, she will want the stars.

There will never be a magical tipping point in which you are so alpha your girl wouldn't ever cheat on you, betray you, or cross a boundary.

If she feels like cheating, it's gonna happen. You could be a top profile celebrity and STILL get cheated on - nobody is immune to hypergamy.

The sooner you come to terms with this, the better.

Now take a deep breath of relief, and accept life for what it is - Half Chance. You can only do so much. Spit your game and onto the next one.

You can be the most Alpha Chad J Thundercock mother fucker on the planet, until some unfortunate ass fool decides he's gonna pop your ass and BOOM - you're dead. And that's it. Alpha no more, cus you dead nigga.

But is the possibility of dying gonna stop you from living?

Is the possibility of rejection gonna stop you from getting laid?

Life ain't perfect, but it sure can be fun.

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Title You will Lose - But you're not a loser
Author LiveAFTSOV
Upvotes 959
Comments 47
Date 18 December 2017 03:37 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/47821
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7kio23/you_will_lose_but_youre_not_a_loser/
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144 upvotes420KUSHBUSH2 years ago

Only way to go above the plateau and keep improving is if one is able to embrace failure, laugh at it, and learn from it and not repeat their mistakes

At the end of the day success seems to be more so persistence and making mistakes then not making them again

Will you get rejected? Will you make mistakes? You're damn right you will. Throughout your life. It's inevitable. But never let that stop you. Never give up, never surrender

2 upvotesthatmanlyreview2 years ago

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71 upvotesIDGAFMentality2 years ago

Your words of wisdom could not have come at a better time. I thoroughly enjoyed your post, you should continue offering your insight to this community. Thank you for the reminder, and best of luck on your journey brother.

161 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Literally pure positivity combined with the essence of redpill and the nature of the grind 👏👏👏

Well said Sir.

8 upvotescharm32 years ago

I ROFLed at ' cuz you dead nigga'

17 upvotesLambdaMale2 years ago

"But [Crassus] was lying on the ground by himself, enveloped in darkness, to the multitude an illustration of the ways of fortune, but to the wise an example of foolish ambition, which would not let him rest satisfied to be first and greatest among many myriads of men, but made him think, because he was judged inferior to two men only, that he lacked everything." -Plutarch, Parallel Lives

4 upvotesChaddeus_Rex2 years ago

Ah. The wisdom of the Romans and Greeks is timeless. They may not have our science but they knew more about the natures of men and women than we do now. Their advice regarding how to live a good life is invaluable and continues to be relevant today. Thanks for this example. It would be great if you could provide more - these examples are educational and easy to remember and understand.

3 upvotesSohithKumar2 years ago

I don’t get it. Please explain?

46 upvotesLambdaMale2 years ago

At the end of the Roman Republic, Crassus, Pompey and Caesar basically divided Rome between themselves. Crassus was known as the richest man in Rome (and the only people who may have been richer in the end were Pompey and Caesar).
Crassus came from a senatorial, but not exceedingly rich family and made his own fortune in the chaotic time of Sulla's civil war. In a time where senators were purged left and right, with his father and brother killed, he managed to benefit from the chaos and rise rich and powerful. Could have lived like a king in Rome or in Spain or in the Eastern Provinces.
Instead, he envied Caesar and Pompey, the only two men in Rome and possibly the known world at that time to rival him in wealth and glory.
So he was set on winning more glory and started a war with the Parthians. In the end he, his son and ten-thousands of soldiers died in the desert heat near Carrhae (Syria or Turkey today).
Moral of the story: don't let your accomplishments and the fruits of your labor be soured by the thought that some others are doing better. Someone will always have it better and that is okay.

12 upvotesSohithKumar2 years ago

Wonderful explanation. Thank you for your time and effort.

14 upvotesShakydrummer2 years ago

Good quality post man. I'm at a point where I'm done doing the dance with women for a while. Want to maximize on the potential for my body and work on a couple projects. It's nice to hear this stuff though, cause life sure as shit can be a riot sometimes

22 upvotesmushroom_overlord2 years ago

Good points overall, but in regard to number 7, just because it isn't always your fault doesn't mean it never will be. Introspection is necessary when you fail in order to learn, rather than simply assuming that every girl that leaves you would have left anyway. You can simultaneously accept that you don't control her and that you can improve your game for the next one.

8 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

OP was talking more about the things with women u can't control. Some nights my phone will blow up with several booty calls, other nights i don't even get a text back. That has 0 to do with me, both the good and the bad are results I have had little control over. I swear it is the moon or some shit, women are group-thinkers so you can't negotiate their behaviour like you can with your male friends. Man I have matched the same girl on tinder after unmatching, gave her the same routine the second time around and we fucked, the first time she was all bitchy and stand offish. They are not rational, and I'd say a good 30% of getting with a girl is just random stuff like did she eat before u talked to her so she is in a good mood?

9 upvotesZuruckDerMac2 years ago

Great write-up, excellent points and articulate.

It sucks, but women stray. As do men. The idea of an actual family with a marriage of trust and no cheating seems no longer like a goal, more like s dream I had when I was young and can’t remember anymore. As if it’s not real.

TRP changed me, but there is still al it to learn. Thanks for the post OP.

5 upvoteskaane2 years ago

Great perspective on the redpill truths. This post alone can be the side material by itself. Free from anger and hate. Pure persistance and experience.

Keep up the good work. Come back and write more.

11 upvotesErthiros2 years ago

Everytime some shit goes down with women, i fuck up or chad comes along. I think to myself - this is the red pill, gotta swallow the red pill

-7 upvotessketchyuser2 years ago

That sounds kinda gay, sorry. Don’t need to idealize anything or anyone. Just accept what’s happened without making a negative judgement about it.

6 upvotesboo_radley_awesome2 years ago

This was a quality post. Humorous, easily readable, and packed with relevant, insightful content. 10/10 would read again. Thanks OP!

3 upvotesrocacu2 years ago

Well OP, this was actually Good. The BJJ analogy is new for me and looking the things like that makes sense.

3 upvotesBloodRedPillz2 years ago

Great post and awesome analogies. Nice to see a post filled with positive vibes. Keep it up man.

4 upvotesPadhtaKyuNhi102 years ago
  • Ask yourself, if a better version of you | came around your girl, would she leave you for your better? It's you, exactly, except he's better at being you. I say, not all women have the chance to do so, but I think they would. And that's okay.* Golden words. I just got up and started doing pull ups and studying. Have to Increase my value
4 upvotesDrumcode-Equals-Life2 years ago

Failure is life's greatest teacher, if you can handle the lesson and rise up whenever you're knocked down.

1 upvotesMaTArcher2 years ago

Let us not forget that it can take some time to rise up again, its not an instant process.

4 upvotesstrngbdy_strngmnd2 years ago

This was amazing. Every bit of this was very well thought out, and concisely explained. Excellent post man

3 upvotesLightBearCares2 years ago

Very concise and well condensed for digestion. Fucking love this shit. Saved/bookmarked/etc.

12 upvotesPabloAsscrowbar2 years ago

OP should read Models by Mark Manson since your ideals are on the same frequency as the book. It is an eye-opener.

8 upvotesAuvergnat2 years ago

I really wish newbies would stop recommending Models. The fact that people outside of this sub recommends Models should hint you at the fact that it's probably not red pill.

Read Roosh's Bang instead.

5 upvotesLiveAFTSOV [OP]2 years ago

Just wanna say bro, your reading list that you wrote up as a dinner menu ended up being my Christmas list

3 upvotesAuvergnat2 years ago

glad to give back to the community

1 upvotesHuskimbo92 years ago

Is your reading list still up somewhere?

0 upvotesazonian912 years ago

stop spamming this sub. mods have been notified.

6 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Silence on the part of EC's is somewhat deafening.

7 upvotesAuvergnat2 years ago

I like it a lot. It's all on point with TRP theory IMO

5 upvotes • [deleted] • 2 years ago

Thanks. I did too, and really appreciate the martial arts angle, being a judoka myself.

2 upvotesevanalmighty192 years ago

Fuck yeah to all of this but especially BJJ oss

2 upvotesbrinkleybuzz2 years ago

Nice post. TL;DR - fear regret more than failure.

2 upvotesmjsaucedo922 years ago

Needed this. Will probably come back to this when I need it again. Take this upvote

2 upvotessd4c2 years ago

Thank you man, for posting that movie clip. I've had a rough past few days and have been beating myself up even though I did the best I could.

Thank you.

2 upvotesFoxxz2 years ago

Bro I needed this. Hit a break up a few days ago and was a wreck. Blamed myself then found a lot of shady shit she has been pulling towards the breakup. I learned alot. I didn't really fail. Each breakup made me stronger and more aware of what bullshit to look out for each time. I saw red flags I've never seen before. My red flag detector is x10 better and I have x10 motivation to punch life in the dick

2 upvotesSTFUIDGAFUCK2 years ago

Ever try. Ever fail. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

1 upvotesdarkgigolo2 years ago

Agree with everything except for "half chance". Not every outcome is 50%-50%.

1 upvotesJustForTRP2 years ago

I think he means we dont get to decide if a comet kills us

2 upvotesdarkgigolo2 years ago

Ok, if that's what he means, then I agree 100%. But it's not 50% chance that a comet kills us, that's all I meant. It's 0.00000001%, but I agree, we can't control that, so why worry about it.

3 upvotesthatmanlyreview2 years ago

A comet sounds too dramatic. When you go up to a girl you either get a yes or no. That’s half chance

1 upvotesSend_it_for_charity1 year ago

Thanks for this post. On to the next one. Shits a learning process forreal.

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