Guys who are in their 50-60s. What is your life like?

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I mean honestly. There comes a time where you look old, gray, and wrinkly, and you're not going to be able to bang 20 year olds no matter how your smv is.

If marriage isnt something you what. What is your life like at this point?

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Title Guys who are in their 50-60s. What is your life like?
Author kryptoknight12
Upvotes 58
Comments 101
Date 30 August 2017 09:39 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev54 points55 points  (42 children) | Copy

I will be 50 later this year. My forehead is definitely well on its way to becoming a "fivehead", etc. But my OLTR1 is 21, OLTR2 is 22 - although, in fairness, OLTR1 will turn 22 in December. I am also chatting up a 23 y.o. tennis pro and a 25 year old chef.

Some Key Facts:

Some young women prefer older men. Find those women.

For guys in the thick part of the bell curve (non-Chads, non-Tards), the SMV breakdown is this:

Looks: 1-2 points Money/Status: 1-2 points Game: 6 points.

So yeah, young guys think it's all being young and buff - and that does work for a certain slice of humanity - but it's not all there is.

Further Reading:

Life After 30: How to Be an Old Guy

-You have one life. Here's how to enjoy it.

Older Men, Younger Women: How & When It Can Work

-For Older Men who prefer Younger Women, and vice versa.

[–]kryptoknight12[S] 9 points10 points  (12 children) | Copy

Holy shit. That is awesome. Gives me some awesome hope. Question where do you find that those type of women are located

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev14 points15 points  (11 children) | Copy

A. I daygame like it's my job.

B. I put myself in situations where I can meet young, fit women (e.g. play in a co-rec beach volleyball league, also front my own band)

C. I know people. The tennis player is friends with a buddy of mine who is in his 20s. She's 5'11 and likes older guys. I'm 6'2" and I'm an older guy. He hooked us up (he's 5'8" and has a gf anyway. He's been the beneficiary of my business knowledge and was only too happy to do me a solid.)

And yeah, fronting my own band is not something other guys are necessarily going to be able to replicate out of the box, but (a) I put in the work to make that happen and (b) I met one of my OLTRs at karaoke, so there's that.

[–]kryptoknight12[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

My biggest fear is becoming too old for my game if that makes any sense. I see a lot Of these older guys who think they are smooth and their game may have worked when they were 20 but I think some things change as you get older, such as things you can and can't get away with without looking creepy. I may be wrong. But I just go by what I see from older guys I meet. It's borderline cringey when they try to spit game

And when I see it I always hope I never become that old creepy guy hitting on young women thinking I'm smooth and I'm not. Right now i'm a fucking stud and I can pretty much get away with anything I want to say. But I think there will come a time where that might not necessarily be the truth

[–]Westernhagen12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

On the plus side (depending on your point of view) as women get older, the need for tight game can decrease. Once they hit 35, you'll have them at "hello". Desperate MILFs married to boring beta providers will practically throw themselves at you. And your competition will be broken down old slobs who can't even bench-press a pencil.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lots of truth in this. If you want to pick up the 35+ market and you're a middle aged guy, here is my three-step program for you:

  1. Don't be a drug or alcohol-addled loser.

  2. Don't be fat.

  3. Be employed.

If you can manage two of those things, you will do fine, and you will kill it if you can manage all 3.

[–]1atticusfinch19733 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can verify this in spades. Picking up 35 plus women is so very easy if you have a decent life and even the slightest amount of game. Most of them don't even want a relationship, they are happy to fuck a guy who is fun, in shape and has an interesting life, because that puts you ahead of 90% of men in the 40 plus bracket.

Now I'm working an exactly what this guy always talks about - finding those 25 year olds who have a thing for older guys. they are definitely out there, and it's a challenge to game them which makes it fun.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Four: Keep your life as tight as possible.

My father's seduction technique was domestic ineptitude. The 35+ crowd will absolutely try to snare you through this vector.

[–]trpthrowaway20039 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Those older guys probably have nothing but money to make themselves interesting.

Be the vet jiu jitsu, rock climbing etc etc.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Be the prize.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

My biggest fear is becoming too old for my game if that makes any sense. I see a lot Of these older guys who think they are smooth and their game may have worked when they were 20 but I think some things change as you get older, such as things you can and can't get away with without looking creepy.

So you are afraid that others will judge you because you are pursuing the masculine impetus of seeking out young and beautiful (markers of fertility, health, and genetic fitness) women?

Never apologize for being masculine.

[–]kryptoknight12[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's not that. It's not being able to tell what works and what doesn't I guess. It's hard for me to explain but I see these older guys and their game is so awful. I just hope to never be that

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then don't be that guy. There are plenty of women who will dig you at any age. Just don't turn into a cave troll.

[–]Bear-With-Bit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Day game constantly. Go where young fit women are. Kill it at karaoke. Shit, I can do this.

[–]Whitified2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

yo Vas! I remember you mentioning once you don't go for women below 18. Unfortunately I do, in fact I've only ever seem to score with those in the 16-19 range. Its legal where I live.

Problem is, I foresee I might be getting into a bit of, erm... angry daddy issues, very soon. Any advice on that? Any experience with angry daddys, and how to solve that?

I'm not an old man btw, late 20s, but I'm not getting any younger. Yet if possible I really don't intend to stop my 16-19 target range. This range seems to be something that even trp doesn't dare to touch on...

I must say though, social pressure and shaming is really starting to worry me.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

16 is too young, dude, legal or not.

With my younger girls (21+), the dads basically pretend I don't exist, and the moms are pretty much ok with it.

[–]Whitified0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

16 is too young, dude, legal or not.

i... didn't expect that from you bro.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Too many complications. You can get the same value from 19-21 without dating HS sophomores.

[–]Whitified0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Okay. Then say an angry father is chasing after you now for dating/doing his 18-19yo daughter. A situation that's not entirely impossible. How would you deal with that?

I'm not in the US so if >16 I'm 100% legally safe, no loopholes no catch, no one can press charges, nothing. Its only the angry parents and my reputation I worry about, and technically they can come after me even if their daughter is >18. Or >20 even, as long as you're much older. I've seen it happen before, just not to me...

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm a bruiser. Angry fathers don't come after me. Ex. I am 5 years older than OLTR1's father. Her dad plays videogames and pretends I don't exist.

Generally, I let the girls handle their parents. I have met OLTR1's aunt, who is supportive and her mom likes me, without having met me.

[–]LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

do you actually have muscle or do you have those burly russian genes that make infants the 17 sizes larger than swedish men

yo for real how do people get buff without lifting weights, like i truly dnt understand

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

do you actually have muscle or do you have those burly russian genes that make infants the 17 sizes larger than swedish men. yo for real how do people get buff without lifting weights, like i truly dnt understand


Being naturally crazy strong is my Slavic superpower. I don't lift for bulk, but when I have in the past, I build muscle easily. OTOH, I will never be a distance runner. I will leave that for Kenyans and homosexuals. Shrugs

[–]jenkins_butler 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy


The reason you have success at the age of 50 is because of your height.

Take someone who is 5'6 and your age, they will have no where near the amount of success that you do with women.

Height is king in the dating game, it always has been.

Don't post here and say "I'm 50 and I still have success" then just casually mention your height as if it has nothing to do with it.

Anyone over 6' IS a Chad/has the potential to be a Chad.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what's your reason​ to keep reading and posting here, if everything is lost for you anyways?.

Tell other small guys there is no hope and they shouldn't even try? Tell bigger guys that it's easier? Dwell in your victim mentality because it feels so juicy to be the poorest slob of em all?

Or bore the fuck out of me? Because I don't give a fucking shit about your pathetic self-pity and the limitations you put on yourself. I promise to you that nobody else does as well.

Everybody got their package to carry you whiny little pussy snowflake. The difference is that some accept it and deal with it while others are just the equivalent of a disgusting tumblr HAES landwhale, screaming "MuH! Big people Chad privileges."

Haven't read any proposed solutions you have come up with.

One thing is for sure though. No women in this world will never let a whiny weakling like you anywhere near her pussy.

[–]trpthrowaway20034 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop diminishing peoples accomplishments, and attributing everything they have achieved to their height.

Also, stop attributing every failure in YOUR life to your own height.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

Women have a 4,356 item list. For me, that is a 4,355 item list.

If you look in the mirror and see limitations, then yeah, you will fail.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy


Focusing on just one physical attribute is the epitome of stupid.

I'm 47, 5'10. 210 lbs. been lifting 30+ years.

I kill it with younger women.

You need tight game, a solid frame;, and the confidence to be secure in yourself.

The fact you're bitching about a variable you can't really change reeks of insecurity. That's your problem, not the amount of inches between your head and toes.

Give me grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, Courage to change the things which should be changed, and the Wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.

[–]AwakenedSovereign3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have this one friend who I've seen operate in close quarters over the span of years.

He is maybe 5'8", probably 230-250 of pudge on any given day and otherwise not pretty.

At this point he is ~40. I actually had a conversation with him at one point when he was worried about getting older.. I pointed him directly to TRP and the male SMV curve.

To this day he slays it. All the goddamn time. Frustrating sometimes because I'm taller, more muscular, more lean, better looking, etc.. and still don't get half the play he does

Wanna know why?

Looks: 1-2 points Money/Status: 1-2 points Game: 6 points.

[–]TrenGod372 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

What is with the mass amounts of black pill pussies on this sub Lately?

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What is with the mass amounts of black pill pussies on this sub Lately?

I would bet that fact that school started again, and instead of taking our advice to just get out there, talk to girls, and do things... they are hiding in their rooms, masturbating, playing video games... and posting about their miserable lives here...

[–]hjm_14-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anyone over 6-ft and in great shape with a decent career can have amazing success with women at any age. Anyone in that situation who isn't banging 9s and 10s is socially retarded.

I'm 5'6" too -- I had success in college and mid-20s (banged a few 8s, a 9, plenty of 7s) -- but now in my 30s with a great career and better shape than my 20s -- my SMV is going down.

Men in their 20s should find someone to marry. Yes, the third rail of TRP -- marriage. Everybody shits on marriage when they're under 25 and single, or they're divorced. It's easy to shit on relationships and marriage on the Internet, but in the real world people get married and have kids. And if they're not economically struggling, they probably stay married. If you wait until your 30s, there is a risk you'll be like me and other men I know (who banged/dated 8s in their 20s) who find that they missed the boat, and the only avenue to meet 25-year-old fertile women is daygame -- trolling around fucking Starbucks, Trader Joes, the park, etc, which sucks ass -- or be the "old guy at the club," sipping on your drink thinking about your Outlook work inbox while 21-year-olds get wasted around you. Just don't settle on an average girl -- find one you think is hot and you get along with -- then stick with her.

Some men are 6-ft, shredded, have $200K jobs and live a Dan Blizerian-lite lifestyle in their 40s/50s in NYC, LA or Miami. Most don't. If you don't seriously envision that scenario playing out, find a life partner in your 20s when your SMV and options are at their highest. Or be the last in your group playing musical chairs because TRP says "men age like wine," etc.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

they probably stay married.

The 50% divorce rates will prove you wrong...

then stick with her.

But the odds are she will not stick with you... haven't you learned anything from this sub?

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Works for me. Young thing.

[–]unitedmrp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

50 yo guy here. East Asian, 6', 9% body fat, lift every day, squat 2X my body weight, bench 1.5X my body weight. Run half marathons, Ironmen. Successful career, very senior executive. Married.

I kill it across all age groups and all races. Doing better than I ever have in my life. Young women, older women. I get approached all the time (granted, most of those are HB7 and below, but still...). The other day couple of ~21 yr olds came up to me with the line "those jeans are bad ass, what kind are they?" Yeah, they really wanted to know about my jeans brand... I seem to get an inordinate amount of attention from ~25 yo yoga pants wearing chicks i the middle of the day, and for some reason, Indian women. I swear, I get IOIs from about 20% of Indian women I meet, more than from East Asian women. (Any Indians care to hazard a guess why? Very strange.) I also get IOIs from mothers at the school at essentially every school function. Sometimes right in front of my wife. But I prefer younger women.

[Edit] I am getting IOI from a woman sitting across me right now as I type. She keeps staring at me and interrupting me to try to talk. But HB6.5. Not worth engaging, though I probably should just for practice. [end Edit]

Now, as an Asian, I do look 10 yrs younger than I am, so keep that in mind. But since I discovered TRP, I've completely transformed myself. I used to be an overweight slob, completely inactive, whiny, and needy.

I've lost about 50 lbs, and gained a massive amount of muscle. I've read everything I can get my hands on, TRP, PUA, Mystery, everything. I spent money on a voice coach, changed all my clothes over to custom tailored. I do everything by the (PUA) book now.

Some of the things that has really worked for me are:

1) Eye contact. I used to never maintain eye contact with women. Now I never look away.

2) Hide your wealth, especially if you're very wealthy (and one advantage of age is wealth of course.) I used to try to use money to pick up women. Now I take my nondescript Jeep everywhere, not one of my sports cars. You don't want to look like a bum, but driving a Lambo, wearing a Rolex, etc. will completely kill your game. Yeah you'll attract gold diggers, but those are not the chicks you want.

3) Lean back when you talk to women. Stop nodding. Stop agreeing. I've been successful in my career because I'm very good at building rapport, and people like me. I realized that the exact same friendly demeanor was killing my game. You've got to be aloof.

But I'got to agree with Vasiliy. Game is more than 50%. Looks make it easy to open, and will also get women to approach you (though as I said, women who approach you generally tend to be below your SMV), but if you run out of things to say after 5 min, or you seem too eager when they talk to you, or you're apologetic about being poor/rich/short/married/Asian/etc. then you're hosed. Looks won't help you close. I was almost as attractive in my 20s as I am now, and I did pretty well, but nowhere close to now. The difference is the game.

And yeah, I'm married. I was in a dead bedroom before TRP. Married to a blonde HB8 (Well, she was HB8 when we got married, and I thought she stayed HB8 until I swallowed the pill, when it became clear she's HB6 now. You can get married to HB8 even if you're Asian if you're 6 feet tall, pretty good looking, and are at the top business school in the world. When you're about to go work on Wall St. for a guaranteed seven figure salary, you're about as betabux as you can get.). It's all turned around, but at one point, I just told her I was going to see other women, and that I would be discreet about it, and if she didn't like it she could pack her bags (obviously during my anger phase). She stayed, she doesn't ask me, but she knows. But she's not going to be able to trade up an she knows that. Blondes, especially the pale Irish kind, hit the wall hard... like an egg traveling at supersonic speed... I wish I had known...

Does it make a difference that I'm wealthy and ripped? Yeah, but that's just the first 10%. My point is that I'm doing better than I was in my 20s. So that's the answer to OP's comment

There comes a time where you look old, gray, and wrinkly, and you're not going to be able to bang 20 year olds no matter how your smv is.

That may be true, but it's not for a long, long, time.

[Second Edit] Now the chick across from me is offering to get me some coffee while she's getting herself some. [End Edit]

[–]chachaChad9 points10 points  (23 children) | Copy

53 tons of money, 2 kids, big house, nice cars, job that treats me like gold married to hot sexy women that won't fuck me.

I'm trim and in shape and have lots of shit going on.

I married a women and ignored the red flags because I was fucking needy and couldn't live without. Should have never slept with her let alone married her. Living nightmare finally coming to an end thanks to married red pill.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy

Yours is a story that has been told over and over...

[–]chachaChad2 points3 points  (19 children) | Copy

Yes, I actually saw a lot of red flags but hamstered my way past them. Never ignore red flags.

[–]matrixtospartanatLV2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

The red flag I ignored cost me 7 figures and a kid.


[–]chachaChad2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yea but you’re out right so it was worth it, right?

[–]matrixtospartanatLV2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuckin' A right.

As I told my daughter, if I knew then what I know now, I would've done it 5 years sooner.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

I was\am in a similar situation. I love my kids to death, so I accept the crap I went through to get them, and just plan\live a better life\future.

[–]chachaChad0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy

My kids are getting older so it will be easier to leave. It’s going to cost me a fortune but I don’t care. It will be nice to be free.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s going to cost me a fortune

Talk to a lawyer and financial planner now. You can plan for this and probabaly manage your money better knowing how the split will take place in the future...

Get ahead of this. There may be some legal things that you can be doing with your finances to aid you later on down the line...

[–]TheRecycledMale0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy

Agreed. Get everything in order prior doing anything legal. Your marriage is like any other partnership, there are legal barriers and legal loopholes. Engage with professionals who know both.

I don't wish divorce on anyone, it sucks (for all sorts of reason), but like everything in life, it's a process to get THROUGH - once on the other side, you'll wonder why it took you so long. You are miles ahead just from the standpoint of your understanding (RP), most find it after wallowing for a couple years post-divorce.

Right now, I have one more to get through HS ... once that's done, I'm going Kerouac for a couple years.

[–]chachaChad1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice. I'm a little upset today so I'm trying not to do anything out of anger.

I'm going to stick to the 12 Levels of Dread and see how that goes. I have 1 and 2 down solid and trying to work on 3, building a life apart from my wife. She's done that over the 18 years and I haven't. Time to correct that.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Anger will wash over you like a tidal wave. Let it happen

Use this energy and direct it into starting some new work out routines. Gym memberships are cheap, and are a great way to burn off steam, build up a better body, and sustain a healthier lifestyle...

[–]TheRecycledMale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm going to give some of the older guys a tip here about working out, especially if you haven't worked out with weights for a while.

Find a Gym with classes - my preference when I first started off was Body Pump (there are variants of that offered by lots of gyms) and Yoga. It does two things (1) you have a "structure" for both the classes and the routine within the classes and (2) they are filled with 90% women.

This is not a long term strategy, at least for Body Pump, but the yoga classes are great for staying both limber and "mindful". I would say about 3 to 6 months of Body Pump is all you need to get into lifting, build you first bit of muscle up and if you keep upping the weight during the classes, be at about the bar "max" for those classes.

[–]TheRecycledMale0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Anger will wash over you like a tidal wave. Let it happen, don't resist it, and then allow it go back out. I lived with my self-induced anger for a couple years - my only suggestion is to let it go as quickly as you can. No one is at fault, your wife, my (x)wife, the guy's wife on the other side of the world - they are who they are. The sooner you let go of the anger, the sooner you reclaim all your power back. It is completely liberating to not be angry at all any more.

You'll get there - good luck on the journey "through" - see you on the other side!!

[–]chachaChad0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Thanks man. That means a lot to me.

I am somewhat aware that my wife isn't to blame and that she is just exactly who she is and that's OK. I've always wanted her to be something she's not and that's my problem.

I've been an angry guy for a long, long time. I used to be funny (I used to do stand up) and happy and always the life of the party. Old friends don't recognize me anymore. This marriage has really taken a toll. I worry about my kids but somehow they'll be alright.

I'm ready for my new journey to begin.

[–]TheRecycledMale0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My kids now joke about "Cranky Dad" ... they sense and feel more than we give them credit.

Do yourself a favor. Forgive everybody and everything - and do it for yourself first. Then your wife. The only thing we have in this life are our precious minutes - each one that passes, you never get back. Forgive yourself for the time lost, don't waste another minute on something that is just going to waste another one. Make a list of things that make YOU happy. I would also start flirting with every woman you meet, start being more sexual - sex is power and you need all the energy you can get. Even if you don't act on it right now, it's great practice.

And start smiling - for no reason. Laugh out loud, especially at yourself. One of the things I noticed once I started doing that again was just how much more fun life is with a smile on your face and laugh that can happen at any time. You'll get there brother, one minute at a time, just like all the rest of us!

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I worry about my kids but somehow they'll be alright.

Don't worry about the kids, they will be fine. They live and learn. So should you.

Its time for you to work on you. Make a plan and start you new life today. Like I said above, gym memberships are cheap, and a great way to burn off steam, and feel good about yourself.

[–]matrixtospartanatLV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's called,

The price of freedom.

Planning your escape can greatly reduce the cost. Read EVERYTHING Red_Curious has posted and commented

[–]boardwalksounds 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Would you say your biggest mistake was marrying a cock-hating dyke?

[–]chachaChad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. She’s not that. My biggest mistake was trying to make some else happy above my own needs and being an emotional cripple. I tend to believe people are fully responsible for the situations they find themselves in.

[–]workingmanrush14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm a young looking 59 ( I guess I look early 50s), married, fit, making great money; you wouldn't believe the women (and how great they look) that have tried to mate poach me; several in their 40s (married by the way, it's disgusting), one single in her 30s (who a few years ago had tried out for an NFL cheerleading squad), and several in their 20s. At first I didn't know what to think, but some women like older, I never act on it but I enjoy it. If you think sex is dead in older guys you're wrong, my competition is non existent, they're out of shape, on heart medicine, and obsessed with politics ( and really, really need to get laid); my advice: stay in shape, work hard and hold a good job, live clean, those medications they put you on can really screw you up. One more thing: 60 today is not 60 20 years ago, it's probably 45-50 for me; and 60 for you will be even younger

[–]trpthrowaway20031 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

several in their 40s (married by the way, it's disgusting)

Good response except for this.

No need to judge them for what they are going to do anyway.

[–]workingmanrush1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

My attitude is if they mate poach trying to steal me they think they're better than both me and my wife; and if they successfully poach me what's to stop them from poaching again; it speaks for their character, they could never be trusted; they'd be good for sex, maybe; one thing as you get older is you quickly recognize what a woman is really looking for

[–]trpthrowaway2003-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree with everything except the better than you part.

They see you as valuable enough to try to snag you from your wife, which is a compliment. Or they are the type of woman who just enjoys breaking up marriages.

Still, no reason to judge them, they are just living their life the way they see fit. No need to saddle them with your own moral compass.

Edit: Just bask in the feeling of being able to spot them a mile away.

Probably even make your wife respect you more by pointing it out.

Both of you get to shame her in private, plus your wife will be keenly aware that you understand your value and that she should as well.

[–]4-thegreatergood0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

"Both of you get to shame her in private"

So should he shame her or not?

[–]trpthrowaway20030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

In my opinion, talking shit to your wife and basking in a little shaming. Is different than judging her.

Maybe I'm being hypocritical and it's the same thing, meh.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm not there yet but can tell you for sure that if you stay in tip top shape and kick ass then it will be just fine.

My seductions are not ONS at clubs because I dont want that. No idea if I could pull there cause I dgaf.

I weave a web now. Active at gym, industry events, yoga classes, kids sports and am a dominant cant miss guy. I peacock slightly and am lean as fuck

Women mostly approach me or make it obvious they want me to approach.

From there I screen for what I want

[–]pawoukcz4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Guys on this forum always schocking me with thinki g that after 28+ you are an old guy...guys there is a bigger chance that you will live to 90+...that is almost 60 years!!! Living 60 years thinking that you are old is not a good way to spend your life.

[–]pridebrah2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah I see some guys say they're old at Average age in the UFC is like 32 according to statistics and Mayweather is making millions looking great at 41. I really hate that pathetic "I'm old at 35" mindset guys seem to take on. It seems like it's just the 'thing' men take on like going around saying, "happy wife happy life ."

[–]TheRecycledMale0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did a quick check ...

Dewayne "the Rock" Johnson = 45; Vin Diesel = 50; Jason Statham = 50; Donnie Yen = 54; Sylvester Stallone = 71

All those Men are in pretty good shape, and I guess all of them are way past their prime (in some people's eyes).

[–]1walawalawa2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm 50+. I only bang girls in their 20's now. The youngest was 21. Rarely I'll make an exception and bang a girl in her 30''s rare.

I'm in great shape, dress well, look younger because I'm slim and wear cool clothes that give me a classic look.

Girls tease me about being "old". But if you're in shape and can bang them hard, most guys in their 20's..even 30's don't have that experience a certain type of girl wants in an older guy.

I spin plates, I love it. I'm divorced and child-free, debt-free. Keep in good shape you'll be fine.

[–]DazFlow3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy

I have just one serious question...

How the fuck did you guys still healthy enough to live like this at 50 years old? Most 50 years old man that I know are either dead or dying due to High blood pressure, diabetic and high cholesterol level which than lead to even more dangerous sickness.

I started to think that you guys just made up all this.

[–]Googoots5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm turning 50 in 3 months.

About 7 years ago, I looked at a few people I knew who were my age or around 50 and said "I'm not going to be like that".

I do a keto diet - have been for the last 7 years or so.

I recently ran two marathons (26.2 miles), one in November and one two weeks later in December, and training for another one this December, with a few half marathons in between.

Lift a few days a week.

A woman last night guessed my age... she said 38!

Some people here look down upon running but it changed my life... and I've met a great group of friends through running groups.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The number one reason all advice here begins with....


The reason most 50 year old assholes are dying left and right is because they are out of shape fucks just drifting through life, no plan, no self-awareness, no MAP. They've "let themselves go" and "given up".

It takes work and mindfulness as you get older not to get complacent. 80:20 rule.

What do you want in life? Eat yourself to death in an easy boy watching a 20 year old TV,

Or..Eat a 20 year old in an easy boy and film it for TV.

One is easy, but low reward, the other is tough, but very rewarding.

A man has to decide for himself what to build and how to build it. Once he's done that, he selects the tools available to him and gets to work. He deals with the failures and frustrations, and he comes out the other side stronger, tougher, wiser - whether he is successful or not.

[–]matrixtospartanatLV4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking awesome, man.

I'm getting my shit together at 55yo.

I'm finding all this shit out right now.

[–]pridebrah2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eat right, TRT, lift, cardio, sleep will keep 99% of that shit away.

[–]TheRecycledMale2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Best thing that happened to my health (in retrospect) was my wife deciding to leave our 17 year marriage. It forced lots of changes to my lifestyle - including the fact that I now have much less stress in my life. It's not hard to stay "active" at 50+, you just have to decide that's what you want to do (just like at 20, 30, 40).

Also, start as early in life as you can (that will help too). Great resource for all Men is he's RP and plans on living past 100. Great researched back articles and books about Men's health.

[–]Westernhagen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Agree. I also follow

[–]Westernhagen2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Low carb. Intermittent fast. Lift four times a week. Some supplements (whey protein, creatine). Daily low dose aspirin. Donate blood regularly to reduce iron.

I am stronger now than I was in my 20s.

[–]Arabian_Wolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To be healthy, even before diet, you need to lead an active lifestyle, as much activity as possible and less sitting time.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The guy who eats like shit, does not exercise, does not take care of himself, gets what he deserves.

The guy who eats right, works out, lives an active and exciting life, gets what he deserves.

Its surprisingly simple.

The choice is yours.

One question /u/DazFlow how old are you?

[–]DazFlow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

31 years old.

I do full medical check up every years. Turn out my medical result for 2017 is everything is OK except my cholesterol and blood pressure are at borderline.

Nurse said my blood pressure and cholesterol are not high enough to be considered ill but not low enough to be considered normal.

My life is kind of active actually, I dont lift but I jog or walk 2-3 times a week for 30-40 minutes each session.

[–]TheDreadnought10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a 20 yo and my dad is 57

His diet is normal, it isn't really great but it isn't bad, he doesn't like eating shit. He never lifted, but he plays at least 2 full-length soccer matches every weekend since he was 15. He's not in shape, but he's healthy only by that. Besides a few orthopedic problems due to heavy work he did when he was young, he is perfectly healthy.

BTW, as I said he's not in shape and isn't rich but he's a charming man and his work requires a lot of talking with younger women, and I've seen more than once some women in their 40s, 30s or even 20s giving him IOIs. If my old man can get those, I don't have a single doubt that a guy in his 50s that is in shape, has cool hobbies and a good financial situation can slay 20s and 30s frequently and without much effort

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