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The SERIOUS Importance of Vitamin D (trust me, read details within)

by jeddzus | March 26, 2018 | TheRedPill

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About two years ago my mom convinced me to get my blood tested. All was well except for one glaring deficiency: Vitamin D. I was at like zero, shit was non-existent. So my mom bought me a bottle of supplements and tried to get me to take them every morning (this was back when I still lived with her and was stubborn about shit everything) and I didn't really take it all too consistently. I didn't really notice a difference, didn't really give a shit and I dropped it. Recently I just started thinking about how fucking exhausted I am ALL THE TIME. Like all the fucking time, for serious. I would nod off at my desk for hours (thank god I have my own office) and still not have more energy. I was all fucked up. Thought it was just this way for good. I decided to google the benefits of vitamin D. What I came across led to a facepalm to end all facepalms. The following are REAL scientific benefits of ensuring you have the correct fucking amount of vitamin D:

  • HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN LEVELS
  • PROMOTES DAYTIME WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY
  • BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM
  • PROMOTES MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY
  • HELPS WITH ERECTILE FUNCTION
  • MAINTAINS BONE HEALTH
  • PROTECTS AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S

    So, in conclusion, a lot of us computer reddit dwellers tend to not get one important thing, especially when our beta blue asses are first swallowing TRP: WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT. Because of this, we can be groggy all fucking day, have LESS FREE TESTOSTERONE, not be getting the optimal muscle quality when hitting the gym. Yo, in the beginning especially, us beta fucks need all the help we can get. The testosterone factor alone should be enough to make sure you get enough. I've been taking a supplement for a few weeks now, and I shit you not, I have more energy and better mood and better sleep quality than I've had in years. 100% better fucking quality of life. Because my dumb fucking ass was too stubborn to try and rectify my dangerously low deficient shit problems because my mom was trying to help me and I was a big tough know better beta fuck. And it's the only adjustment I've made in my life recently. Don't take it from me, there are plenty of sources on the internet to back my shit up. And it's NOT JUST VITAMIN D!! Get a blood test, make sure you aren't deficient in shit anything. Taking vitamins and minerals just "because they're good for me RIGHT!?" is dumb as hell. Find out for sure. Fix your shit. Fix yourself. Grow and improve, YA DUMBASS. Sources:

  • https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sleep-newzzz/201301/vitamin-d-deficiency-and-daytime-sleepiness

  • https://prostate.net/articles/vitamin-d-requirements-for-men-over-40

    Edit: DON'T JUST START THROWING BACK VITAMIN D CARTE BLANCHE! I'm not a doctor. I'm saying get your bloodwork done and consult with your doctor before taking large amounts of vitamins, there is a legit problem called vitamin overdose - it's a real thing. You can mess up your kidneys, liver, heart, etc. if you're just taking a shitload without proper monitoring. Consult with your doctor first! Be healthy and smart!


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Title The SERIOUS Importance of Vitamin D (trust me, read details within)
Author jeddzus
Upvotes 824
Comments 308
Date 26 March 2018 12:39 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]frostdrachen85 points86 points  (19 children) | Copy

Up north this is a common deficiency due to an extreme lack of sunlight during the winter. So unless you're getting plenty of direct sunlight (even just thin glass blocks UV light which is needed for the synthesis) you're going to need supplements. We have them all over the place and most of our milk has added vitamin D.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian29 points30 points  (16 children) | Copy

When you are far enough from the equator it's impossible to get enough vitD from sunlight in the winter because the angle of the sun is too low. It's likely that our ancestors used to compensate this partly with high fish intake.

I supplement 5000iu in winter and switch to every other day in spring/fall and once or twice a week in the summer.

Edit: anyone supplementing high amounts of vitD should also take vitK out of precaution. Magnesium is probably also a good idea.

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[–]Immaculate53211 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Vitamin D can boost cognition, bone health and if you are deficient can increase testosterone as a side effect of supplementation. If you have too much vitamin D, calcium can begin to build up in your blood and cause many side effects including kidney stones. It is very difficult to get vitamin d to dangerous levels without supplementation. Vitamin K Assists in the transport of calcium and promotes bone health. This also means a decreased risk of calcium buildup in arteries. Great synergy. Vitamin K also has a role in blood clotting so don’t supplement without talking to a doctor if you are on blood thinners.

[–]Cynthaen2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Make sure you get K2.

It has a lot higher affinity to bind to osteocalcin (the enzyme that transfers calcium to the bones, which needs K2 and D3 to activate).

[–]PaulAJK1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

I thought 1000iu was enough?

[–]Azhet9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

Newer studies show that our previous assumptions were off, around 8000 is now recommended. I take 10,000 IU daily and have definitely noticed a huge improvement in my life. $10 for 3 months worth, only wish I’d started sooner!

[–]Extremely_Photogenic4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

8000 is now recommended. I take 10,000 IU daily

That's a lot.... I have heard that 1000 is too low but 8,000?? I thought the new recommendation was like 2k from a previous of 400.

Do you have sources for this?

[–]Azhet8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Link to the study

we call public health authorities to consider designating as the RDA at least three-fourths of the levels proposed by the Endocrine Society Expert Committee as safe upper tolerable daily intake doses. This could lead to a recommendation of 1000 IU for children <1 year on enriched formula and 1500 IU for breastfed children older than 6 months, 3000 IU for children >1 year of age, and around 8000 IU for young adults and thereafter. Actions are urgently needed to protect the global population from vitamin D deficiency.

It seems like a lot but I feel a lot better taking it. I ran out for a week because I couldn't afford more and I felt more tired and less healthy overall. It helps with seasonal affective disorder significantly. I think the reason there is a large trend of depression (evidenced by it's popularity in memes) is we are low on Vitamin D because we stay inside so much.

[–]Extremely_Photogenic4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I completely agree with everything you said, except I am still shocked to see 8000 IU recommended. I typically dose 2-4k a day in the winter...

[–]Azhet6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You actually make a lot more naturally

If you're fair skinned, experts say going outside for 10 minutes in the midday sun—in shorts and a tank top with no sunscreen—will give you enough radiation to produce about 10,000 international units of the vitamin. Dark-skinned individuals and the elderly also produce less vitamin D, and many folks don't get enough of the nutrient from dietary sources like fatty fish and fortified milk.

Some people need less, some people need more. I have a particularly low deficiency according to my endocrinologist, so 10k IU works for me :)

[–]Extremely_Photogenic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is true in the summer. Doesn't work as well in the winter. I am going to up my vitamin D. Thanks

[–]StrikePrice1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I also take 10k IU per day. Have for years. My GP told me one time “you’re my only patient with normal Vitamin D levels.”

[–]PaulAJK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

jeez that's a fuck ton. I'll give it a go.

[–]disgruntledearthling0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I also have been taking 10000iu daily. 6000 in the morning and 4000 after supper. I can say I do feel better but without bloodwork it's hard to say if this is a placebo effect... I read the same recent study and it seemed to make sense.

[–]OnlyTRP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

is 5000 iu daily considered high amount of vit D? asking because I have that in my cart atm and wondering if I should buy the K2.

ZMA and Vit D3 is what I am gonna purchase so far.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sort off, I'd call it average. It's likely fine without but if you can easily get some vitK I'd go for it. It has benefits of it's own. That said first check if you regularly eat food high in vitK.

[–]George_H_W_Kush3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, a lot of people up here just assume vitamin d deficiency is “feeling crappy because it’s thewinter”

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

You’re right about Vitamin D. My husband’s levels were low too. He ended up needing the D, testosterone and Vitamin E. He’s a bundle of energy now! BTW he’s 60 yo.

[–]jeddzus 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Quick question with zero judgement implied..... are you a 50-60 year old woman browsing TRP?

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yes. I’m 52, married nearly 30 years. I like this sub and also MGTOW. I don’t always understand either sub all the time but I do believe a lot of what is said. We have mostly traditional roles in our marriage, which makes me feel very comfortable and safe, but we also have amazing sex that’s not traditional.

[–]jeddzus 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Between your mentions of guns, steak, masturbation and pegging I can see that everything you said seems pretty damn accurate. You I dig. Keep on

[–]SEOfficial 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Have much of my respect! I think that is what real caring for each other looks like. What you have is so rare that many many men these days will probably never even try to pursue a marriage anymore, let alone kids.

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Thanks!

You know, I’m not sure I’d want to be married or have kids nowadays. I’d be scared to death we’d have a dead bedroom or fucked up kids. I’m glad we’re the age we are.

[–]disgruntledearthling 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Don't worry - our generation can be just as screwed up as the current one.

[–]aga080 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

the world needs more women like you Trina. What chance do I have has a person in my late 20s to find a women with old traditional values like you do? i feel as though it is zero.

[–]BigMawsmidget 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Sound just like my parents lol. It must have been a way better time back in the day when people just went with the flow(gender roles).

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Awesome thing: both of our boys have found women that pretty much feel/think/act like we do.

[–]1v1crown 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Agreed. Nothing is real now.

[–]OwnedAndLoveIt 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Good for you. I am mid 40's and found TRP after a 18yr marriage that collapsed under both our failures. I know what is par for the course today for most doesn't work long term. I try to not be seen or heard here out of respect for the forum, but I have turned what I have learned into a positive and life goes on. On topic, tanning moderately can help boost VitD, especially in winter.

[–]bigbodybuilderr 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Or her husband could be a stud and she's 25

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Actually, both of us are in excellent shape and work out frequently. I think he’s a stud.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Do you keep up with your squats m’am?

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

You bet I do. I’m in a class called Body Pump which is weight lifting for an hour that involves all muscles. I’m a big fan of lunges and squats. Although my favorite muscles to work out are my biceps and triceps. I love love strong arms on a woman.

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Is it a CrossFit kind of thing? Lunges are the queen of legs for women. Helps make a very shapely ass. In fact as a man I’ve built a good ass with lunges and squats.

[–]maxofreddit 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Can confirm...

Did bulgarian split squats like a fiend for about a year, now have a butt that my wife can't take her hands off.

Also, hip thrusts... which are best done while making unwavering eye contact with a stranger at the gym.

[–]throwawayclarkken 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Good on you lady . I hope you enjoy your time here on the sub and don’t think we are a bunch of misogynists .

Ps do you speak to other ladies in your circle about the redpill

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Oh yeah but most of them aren’t having sex, aren’t that satisfied in their marriages and aren’t in shape and don’t get a damn word I say. And I don’t know one person irl that reads Reddit.

[–]throwawayclarkken 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Out of curiosity I'm asking how did you stumble upon this

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

You mean TRP, Vitamin D or Reddit in general?

[–]throwawayclarkken 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I mean this sub in particular .

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I clicked on it after reading a post that was bad mouthing it. Then I subscribed.

[–]throwawayclarkken 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Lol that's great . As they say any publicity is good negative or positive

Another question . Since you said that you agree with the views posted in this sub do you think modern freethinking female can be saved

[–]TrinaDecker 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I think there are a lot of women who don’t know what the fuck they want out of a man. They want the man to have emotions but then ridicule them for being sensitive. Or want a man to be big and strong and protect them then act like they don’t need “saving”.

I was talking to this guy the other day about this. He said he never knows when to open the door for a woman. It’s all so complicated now.

I’m sorry - not sure I even answered your question. I kinda got on a rant!

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[–]BigMawsmidget98 points99 points  (38 children) | Copy

Honestly think vitamin deficiency across the board is understated. I've heard people use the saying "multivitamins are expensive urine", but my own opinion disregard those people if you're deficient in anything a high quality multivitamin will help, but it's only a tool. Still have to get most of it from foods.

[–]markdumte40 points41 points  (19 children) | Copy

If you eat enough vegetables, and you should, you are getting more than you need of most vitamins and minerals. The vitamins in vegetables are more bioavailable than from artificial sources. You also get a lot of fiber and other non essential micro nutrients, that help a lot that you don't get with multivitamin supplements.

Instead of taking a multivitamin, it is much better if you increase the amount of vegetables you take, for example by taking a daily vegetable/fruit shake.

The exception is vitamin D as it is not present in any vegetable or fruit. You can find it only in some mushrooms and in cod liver. In general, the body relies on the skin production when the sun hits. But because we don't get that much sun in our lifestyles anymore, it makes sense to add vitamin D supplement.

But vitamin D is the exception. If you have vitamin deficiency it is much better to increase your vegetable and fruit intake.

[–]THEnimble_mongoose9 points10 points  (15 children) | Copy

Don't we only need something like 20 minutes a day in the sunlight to get the vitamin D we need?

[–]Run_Che28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

20 minutes on full/naked body and not just face/hands? What time in the day/year since sun isn't always the same intensity? What about the days when it's cloudy or when you don't leave house during the day. What about living in far north/south countries where sunlight isn't as strong by default..

Chances are, you need it suplemented.

[–]THEnimble_mongoose0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I live in Los Angeles.

I am pretty sure just exposure to the sun on your face and arms will get you the vitamin D you need, you don't have to be fully naked to max out or anything like that lol. It's vaguely similar to how plants absorb sunlight, the whole plant doesn't need to be exposed to sunlight in order to receive the vitamin D it needs, same with humans and animals.

[–]antariusz13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great, now imagine it’s 20 degrees outside so you cover most of your body, and then imagine the little sun you get is only 30% as powerful.

You are the exceptional one, living in LA most places in the world get less sunlight.

[–]maxofreddit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So... those Santa-Monica-lunch-time-naked-beach-runs I'm planning... overkill?

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

That is when you go with the current insanely low recommended daily intake. That number is based on preventing rickets, not achieving optimal health. There is a lot of shit that goes bad before you develop rickets.

This is a common problem with these recommendations. They are based on preventing disease instead of optimizing health and performance.

If you want to get a better idea of whether supplementation is beneficial and at what dosage go to examine.com for more in-depth info.

[–]THEnimble_mongoose-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

hmm ok so is it better to walk around outside shirtless or in a tank top than it would be in a long sleeve shirt? What is the optimal amount of sunlight?

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no one optimal amount of sunlight. It depends on location, season, time of day, skin color, weight, dietary vitD intake, etc.

There are calculators online that can give a decent indication. Also you don't need optimal levels every day. It's fine to get more vitD one week and less in the next week.

[–]chrisname1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enough to have a light tan on most of your body, not enough to have gotten burned. You have to balance vitamin D with cancer.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m not sure about that. Both of us run in the sun, lay out every weekend in the summer and are generally outside a lot. Our levels were still low.

[–]markdumte1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That is usually the minimum recommended that prevents your body from malfunction, but usually the optimum is much higher. Just go and get a blood analysis to check. They are usually included in most insurances, so you don't go around guessing.

Also, sun makes the skin age quicker and increases the chances of cancer. I wear sunscreen daily, even in winter. So moderate amounts of sun with vitamin d supplements is a much better overall approach IMO.

[–]beginner_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Plus minus but with a lot of skin exposure while it below freezing. Eg. Most people wont get enough.

[–]GloriousGardener0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That might not be a problem in california. It is in canada though.

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[–]markdumte0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's interesting, I'll have to look into it.

[–]ValuePrestige3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

What is a good multivitamin?

[–]BigMawsmidget1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Right now I'm taking something called Thorne Research I recommend that one, but it's expensive for a month supply. That's really the big catch around 62 dollars on Amazon it's two bottles an A.M and P.M, but for the dosage combined that's what sold me.

Most multivitamin have low vitamin D for example or even vitamin c this one has 2500 iu for vit D and think 350 for vit C.

As I stated used as a tool this is awesome if a bit expensive.

[–]ATrashMan1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

counter point tried taking the thorne research 1 and it made me feel like shit so i stopped.

[–]BigMawsmidget1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Are you eating before taking it cause so far I have no side effects to speak of.

[–]ATrashMan1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

yes. it gave me a brain fog like feeling where it was hard to think clearly. after i removed that supplement all issues stopped.

[–]BigMawsmidget1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I haven't had that issue at all maybe it's just a particular ingredient they used. Although always open to suggestions for better one I don't trust any one company, but if you give a suggestion don't like it be something like One a day.

[–]revente5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Multivitamins might be but a good grade of medical d3 is very reccomended. Obviously its still best to get proper levels via sunlight exposure.

[–]Rabbit-Punch14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy

It takes like 3 hours in the sun to get enough vitamin D, not the 15 min lie

[–]FinallyRed9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can't make a blanket statement like that. It will depend on where you live, the time of year, your skin pigmentation, and how much of your body is exposed. Plenty of people do live north enough that there is very little radiation and their bodies will be mostly covered up for most of the year, so the conclusion is pretty much the same for most people.

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[–]Rabbit-Punch3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

myself and many other Californians that spend over an hour in the sun a day disagree

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[–]lotikpotik0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

in europe it would take 8-12hours per day being topless outside year round for most men..

Yikes, how far up in your ass did u have dig to pull out something like this.

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[–]lotikpotik0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

lol, i like how u say this, yet there's a guy in the comments who said u get like 10k UI from 10 minutes of sun and he got upvoted. Some pretty nice herd mentality going on here.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its been proven taking vitamins had a fractional effect compared to eatting fruits etc and absorbing the nutrients that way. So in a way vitamins are just expensive piss.

[–]RonieGarret35 points36 points  (10 children) | Copy

I resigned from pills and now I'm taking D in liquid form: dissolved in oil. If you have to stay with pills, take them with some fat (eg. yolk).

I never supplement D3 alone, always with K2.

Good mood guaranteed.

[–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Gotta look into K2 supplementing, thanks for the heads up

[–]BigMawsmidget2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah they help each other think there is another vitamin that works like that.

[–]xAkdas0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That oil form tastes disgusting man

[–]JaxHerer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oil capsules for the ballers

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[–]tittyman10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I believe high doses of d3 can lead to calcification in the bones, k2 counteracts this side effect.

[–]Ochreata2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

D3 increases calcium uptake, K2 activates the glutamyl carboxylase enzymes that activate the Gla and matrix Gla (MGP) proteins which regulate where calcium goes. Osteocalcin sends calcium to the bones, other MGPs prevent calcium being deposited in soft tissue, ie it is the major calcification inhibitor of the arterial wall.

[–]ATrashMan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

what supplement of k2 and how much?

[–]Goodwin51229 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy

I had my blood tested fir vitamin D deficiencies (didnt think about it since i walk around outside for college fairly often and i have a summer job that is outdoors. Now im on a 50k mg pill once a week for vitamin D... oops I had same issue as you where I was always dead ass exhausted and couldnt help no matter the amt of sleep.

[–]redd_reality4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Did the vit D supplement help you?

[–]Goodwin5125 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Odd story, but the first 4 weeks i was hyper as shit, all the energy in the world, but not sleeping much hit me way harder so i needed 2/3 extra hrs. Energy wise i really was unstoppable tho!

And then another 3 weeks later and im startig to lose the energy again? Idk if my bodys adjusting to new amts and wants me tired as shit but its not the same.

Im planning on going back in to see if im getting too much vitamin D and have toxicity in my blood... cant find a middle ground (-.-)/

[–]redd_reality2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

At least you know your energy is a direct function of your vit D intake. Guess regular blood tests are a must.

[–]Goodwin5121 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was just really weird, i thought i was going through a depression and then realized i had no reason in the world to be depressed, so i started looking to clinical reasons. My thoughts were possibly thyroid or vit D or even low Testosterone

[–]ghosts_of_me43 points44 points  (30 children) | Copy

A couple of months ago I got a new job that puts me outdoors doing physical work for 8 hours a day. Since only recently my jizz loads have been enormous compared to the past. I think I may have found the correlation. Nice!

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (11 children) | Copy

I think it's a massive shame that a lot of work is performed indoors. i felt way way better working days outside as apposed to working indoors at night, but ya know shit happens and life happens

[–]jeddzus[S] 10 points11 points  (10 children) | Copy

If I could do my job at an outdoors desk standing up, my quality of life would increase and hundred-fold.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

waterproof laptops? it'll be interesting to see ;)

speaking from experience, i was beyond fucked up when i worked night shift. transferred to days and immediately felt better

[–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

I started a new job years ago that bumped my pay up from $60k to $80k but they wanted me to work 10pm-6am shifts 6 days a week. I dropped that shit like a rock. Goodbye social life. Goodbye sanity. There's a reason they offer that much.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

That's a damn increase man. sometimes you gotta make that sacrifice to get the things you want! depending on what you're doing though, for me personally i'm looking at jobs that are basically working the night(DJ work/nightlife)

The thing about that wage increase, you could take the hours...start to feel the effects of working nights and have to take time out for the mental health problems that occur as a result of night work.

I'm sure you made the right move though mate!

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Haha, yeah it worked out man. I'm making even more than that now. I've found with hard work, making the right choices, surrounding myself with the right people, and being optimistic generally all leads me where I want to go in life. Even "setbacks" are growth opportunities. Re-examine, re-tool, re-execute.

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fantastic mate, a setback a few years back completely fucked me up and retooled me from beta thinker to a much more respectable human being, don't get me wrong i have my relapses but getting out of that system slowly and surely and whilst it fucked me royally, i am completely thankful that i do not live blind anymore

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Hey I feel ya on that brotha, I went through a complete life collapse because of drug addiction: fucked up family and friend relationships, lost job, became epileptic, probation, the list goes on and on. BUT in order to recover I needed to get to the root of all my problems, why i started using in the first place. And because of the drug addiction showing me the light, it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I've improved in every single aspect of my life. Hope all is well with you too bud

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I'm sorry to hear that man. I think to overcome addiction is the mark of someone willing to put up a fight, i still smoke pot on a regular basis but trying to limit my usage until it becomes a stable amount and not overly excessive. being out of work resulted in a lifestyle that is congruent to redpill living but sometimes you need to get out of that phase to realize what shitty behaviours still remain. is there anything you could advise for getting out of your habits? this or last year was the first time i PROPERLY excercised, i can see why addicts get told to try this kind of thing. revolutionary in how i perceive myself, my mood etc

[–]Dravous0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well if it makes you feel better most electronics these days are actually rather water resistant. The circuit boards are coated after assembly which makes them water proof. The problems are in places like the junctions between stuff, like the usb ports, and in non-electric parts like the bearings of the cooling fans. Someday they might be totally sealed.

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This is probably why during the summer time (I live in Canada where it's winter most of the year) I feel more horny and muscles usually look more vascular and on peak than during the winter (tan is probably a big factor to tho)

[–]FinallyRed7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

To be fair they were eating loads of animal products from beasts who were getting sun and eating right unlike modern factory farmed trash meat.

[–]WolfofAnarchy7 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy

May i ask what job that is? I'm looking for some 'manly' jobs myself, working outdoors, being in the sun, lifting stuff, etc. I can't help but think my sitting is slowly killing me.

[–]ghosts_of_me7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Landscaping labourer. No skills required to start. Highly recommend.

[–]WolfofAnarchy2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks. Can you - in a few sentences, I don't want to bother you - walk me through your most frequent tasks? I have a hard time imagining what exactly you do!

[–]ghosts_of_me5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

If we are building a new landscape then it is like minor construction, moving earth, placing boulders, concreting, tiling, installing irrigation systems, building walls or decks, planting trees, plants, etc.

If we are maintaining landscaped property then there is a lot of weeding, digging, hedge trimming, ground clearing, green waste removal, and so on.

[–]lilbro19842 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Look up Deskbound, has some really good tips if you are stuck on a desk. And oh yeah sitting is killing you!

[–]WolfofAnarchy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

My internet is horrid right now, can you in one sentence say what Deskbound is? Like an app?

[–]lilbro19840 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

A book by Kelly Starrett, check amazon or your local library.

[–]writewhereileftoff5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok that's it I'm getting on the D train!

[–]tallwheel1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Could be also due to the physical activity itself.

[–]ghosts_of_me1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Im sure that's also contributing greatly.

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Before I had a car, I walked everywhere. The benefits of walking are great but add in sunlight?

Awesome duo there

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[–]greatslyfer[🍰] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe it's a placebo effect

Isn't that though kinda redundant though to question whether it's a placebo or not?

Like I get what you mean, how do you truly know if it's a placebo effect or not... you don't.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear22213 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy

Started taking Vitamin D in the 35,000 IU tablets once a week for the last 3 months and HOLY FUCKING SHIT, major improvement in sleep quality, restfulness, erectile function, appetite, healthy looking skin, overall happiness and positive attitude. Those are just the ones i'm aware of.

[–]jeddzus[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's insane dude. Like I said, I was blown away by the quality of life increase. I didn't want to get THAT into it and act like it's some miracle cure all snake oil shit but yeah.. I hope that this post nudged some people to get bloodwork done and possibly supplement with VitD and feel just as good as we do brotha.

[–]GlennBeckAmerica0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If money is tight should I get a bottle of vitamin d pills?

[–]JaxHerer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why 35,000 once a week rather than 3000 with every meal? Does your body store it that well?

[–]OrangeBananaShake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You take a good (conservative) average amount of Vitamin D but don't take a megadose once per week. Better take a normal amount of Vitamin D every or every second day.

[–]30fretibanezguy12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Few weeks ago self prescribed zinc, then iron, then vitamin D (to see cumulative effects of each).

The zinc got my sex drive and drive to deliver intensity in the gym more. The iron massively improved my mood and ability to keep away from watching YouTube to pass the time. And the vitamin D seemed to make me feel genuinely better in general (I know, vague, but its true, physically and mentally).

I found those three supplements from my own research on what I should be taking and why. I reccomend everyone goes on their own journey to see what vitamins and minerals they see change from.

[–]jeddzus[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Weird wild stuff. I wonder how much of that could possibly be placebo? Not saying your lying, but sometimes it's hard to tell, I was unsure if my improvements were placebo or not for a while. Until I tried starting then stopping a few times and noticed an immediate difference. I'll look into the zinc and iron too, I'm probably deficient because I eat garbage food and in insufficient amounts too. I really need to improve my diet to start showing my gym gains more.

[–]30fretibanezguy2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hey you could well be right. I based my findings based on what I read the vitamins were supposed to do and compared it to myself so I definitely lack proper objectivity whether its true or not.

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey whatever works for you man, all that matters is you're feeling better, less sedentary, and more intense at the gym. Keep on

[–]SpaceEnthusiast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

People should be very careful with Iron supplementation!

[–]cyanidez12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for sharing man. The only person who is going to take care of you, is YOU.

[–]ReggieCarl12 points13 points  (16 children) | Copy

Vitamin D is essentially a anabolic hormone. I was deficient in it as well. Been taking supplements for it for over half a year. Difference is day and night. Also gained two inches in height probably because of my deficiency getting corrected.

[–]soider82 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy

If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you supplementing with? I’m 22 and I believe I could have suffered from a Vit D deficiency for most of my life. Anyway I will be supplementing soon so I hope it makes a difference, I’m from the UK and from what I can see on Amazon and other reviews Ultra Vitabiotics Vitamin D 1000UI daily seems to be good. The company also has a 2000UI version.

I will begin with 1000UI and see if there’s a difference.

[–]revente3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy

1000 is really low. 3-5k is proper way to go when you are deficient.

[–]soider81 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

How will I know this is not dangerous? I’m not supplementing anything else like K2

[–]ReggieCarl1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

If you don’t mind me asking, how much were you supplementing with? I’m 22 and I believe I could have suffered from a Vit D deficiency for most of my life. Anyway I will be supplementing soon so I hope it makes a difference, I’m from the UK and from what I can see on Amazon and other reviews Ultra Vitabiotics Vitamin D 1000UI daily seems to be good. The company also has a 2000IU version.

I am 22 as well. I took two Vitamin D3 3000 IU, so 6000 IU. I bought and used these from Amazon.co.uk

How will I know this is not dangerous?

Up to 10,000 IU should be regarded as very safe unless you have some conditions that predispose you to high blood calcium, such as hyperparathyroidism or acidosis.

If you're a white person in t-shirt and shorts in the summer sun you can produce up to 10,000 IU within 15-20 minutes easily. Toxicity doesn't occur until at least 40,000 IU according to most recent studies.

[–]soider82 points3 points  (11 children) | Copy

Hmm that’s interesting, thanks for the reply mate. I believe it may be good for me to get some tests done beforehand and possibly consult my GP as well as doing more research on the whole topic of Vit D.

Thing is I’ve always had sleep problems such as sleep talking, sleep terrors occasionally and day time tiredness used to be bad for me. Anything wrong with just taking 1-2kUI for the time being to see it there’s any difference?

[–]ReggieCarl1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy

Do that. It's always a good idea to consult with your doctor about your recent blood work.

Those symptoms you stated can be caused by a lot of things obviously. It's difficult for me to say unless I knew all your environmental factors like time spent outside and diet etc. So anything I'd tell you would probably be an inaccurate estimation. So I rather not.

So if you really wanna be on the safe side, just take 500 IU by cutting your tablet in half and work your way up every week. Listen to how your body responds and adapt your dose accordingly.

[–]soider81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right thanks for the reply!

[–]soider81 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

One last question, do you supplement with vitamin k2 also?

[–]ReggieCarl2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Yep. Vitamin K2 mk7 form. Vitamin D & Vitamin K2 synergize very well together. For every 5,000 - 10,000 UI of D3 I recommend 100-200 mcg of K2 mk7.

I started with this half a year ago, and I feel my bones are significantly denser. I never get pain in my knees or anything anymore. I had really frail bones just 6 months ago (I was deficient in Vitamin D and other things)

[–]soider80 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Ah I see, thanks again for the reply.

A quick search on amazon led me to these Vit K tablets which seem good from the reviews https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004GW4S0G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_d89VAbTCWQDMB

I will also build myself up to 6k UI daily in Vit D alongside taking Vit K. Do you know if it’s possible to take too much Vit K? I’m assuming the Vit K that is not used is pissed out.

I’m not sure if my bones are frail or not (my feet get tired/ache from standing too long?) however strangely enough I grew around 2-3 inches in height last year (age 21). At the time I was lifting/playing football, eating well and getting a good amount of sun exposure (walks I took daily as exam revision breaks) so I’m not sure if this was all related. The height thing is what initially caught my attention from your original post.

Edit: I’ve just realised that the link above is for a Vit K complex.

This seems better just for K2 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XSJFTXL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jv-VAb1KCCKG7

[–]NotMeUsee20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

I had the same diagnosis. Started taking vitamin D and am thinking more clearly and have way more energy.

[–]jeddzus[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah man, the change was large enough to motivate me to make this post lol

[–]Deezney8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

You literally made me get up and get some Vitamin D today lol

[–]I_LIKE_THINGS_OFTEN9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’ve got several concussion in the past and have been dealing with chronicle depression since the last 8-10 years. I also live up north in Canada so sun light is near non-existant during weekday at the office while in the winter.

I second OP, I started taking vitamins D and other supplement and my mood and mind really improved. This winter has been the easiest to go through, with only a week or two of down. 10/10 would recommend.

[–]DouglasB23108 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Probably the most useful post I've ever seen today.

Thanks OP. 👍

[–]AircraftWelder5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Moved to the interior of Alaska last summer, and started taking vitamin D as the days got shorter. This is the first winter in memory that I haven’t been lethargic/depressed with the lack of sunlight, going to and getting off work in the dark, etc. and it’s by far the least sunlight I’ve received. Vitamin D gets a thumbs up from me.

[–]NACHTK1113R5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy

Well some people are sensitive to dht so we can't even build muscle without the risk of hair loss. I can't even eat dark chocolate or drink pomegranite juice because it causes shedding.

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Ahh sorry to hear that man. What's the treatment for that?

[–]NACHTK1113R4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

I'm not sure, but I know I would need something such as finasteride(to combat it), but it causes erectile dysfunction(so it isn't worth it, what would be the point in having big muscles, and a limp dick? I will need to find another alternative). High testosterone is essential when building muscle, but it always gets converted to dht, and that's what causes the hair loss. Exercises which significantly increase T levels such as squats and pull ups etc cause hair loss in certain people who are sensitive to dht, so they have to avoid them and just mostly stick to cardio if they do do any exercise at all.

[–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Well I guess if you're gonna bulk up then just go at it head first and bulk up. A well built bald guy can 100% still be sexy. Look at The Rock, or Jason Statham, or Vin Diesel or Andre Agassi.

[–]NACHTK1113R-2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy

Jason Statham is ugly as shit(yeah, maybe those other guys are slightly better examples. IMO bald guys just look ugly, they don't look youthful, they look OLD, it's like bald guys say when it happens to them they feel that they've been robbed of their youth, and that's how they look as well. Such a guy would need very strong facial aesthetics(in addition to being high status) to even be anything other than invisible to women, a good example of this is Aleceister Crowley(bisexual) he was a pretty good looking dude in his younger days, but then he went bald and he looked like shit, guys like that just aren't going to be getting laid(at least by no conventional means), women won't even pay attention to them, they don't even notice them, they are INVISIBLE. If they do get laid it's primarily because of status, and not their looks.

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[–]fresh--tendril11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy

Isn't it really odd that we get vitamin D from the sun - of all places..

[–]jeddzus[S] 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

I agree - it really is lol. Our bodies synthesize it from cholesterol when exposed to sunlight. Our bodies are really beautiful insane things man.

[–]fresh--tendril3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

What makes it weirder, in a sense, is we get everything from the sun. But as you said, that our bodies can be the things that extract Vit D directly from the sun.. It doesn't have to go through all manner of geological processes.. Going to catch a lot of rays this Summer - and get down with the corporeal alchemy

[–]jeddzus[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, light and energy are the genesis of all life

[–]rorrr[🍰] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

We get vitamin D from the sun and from the foods (and now from the pills as well). The problem with getting it from the sun, you increase your chances of skin cancer. You need to combine all 3 sources. The best way, according to some recent articles I've read, is vitamin D fortified foods: salmon, tuna, dairy, egg yolks (also some types of orange juice, but that shit is loaded with sugar). Supplements are a lot less effective for some reason.

[–]sadshark1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem with getting it from alimentation is that you need to eat a shit ton of UNPROCESSED foods like fish and still the amount you would get would not be sufficient.

We need sunlight and when we dont get it, we need high doses in other suplements.

[–]aga0804 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

This is correct, an adult male should be taking 5000-10000IU of Vitamin D per day. the "daily" amount written on bottles is all wrong, the correct amount is 10 times higher

[–]Duzand5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Love it man.

HIGHER FUCKING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS & LOWER ESTROGEN FUCKS

PROMOTES DAYTIME FUCKING WAKEFULNESS & BETTER NIGHT TIME SLEEP QUALITY

BOOSTS YOUR FUCKING IMMUNE SYSTEM

PROMOTES MOTHERFUCKING MUSCLE STRENGTH & INTEGRITY

HELPS YOUR FUCKING DICK

MAINTAINS THAT FUCKING BONE HEALTH

PROTECTS AGAINST FUCKING ALZHEIMER'S

WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FUCKING SUNLIGHT

I'm motivated as shit right now.

[–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, you know I loves me some capitalization overuse!

[–]1Ill_Will75 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

before i read this, i thought by vitamin D, you meant the importance of giving HER the vitamin D.

[–]OminousOmnipotence4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

I would add DHEA and Zinc every night before bed.

Anywhere from 25mg to 100mg of DHEA moderate if you start getting too pissy as it will dramatically increase your testosterone levels. Also, take at bed so you sleep through the initial pissy attitude too.

Make sure you pair with Zinc as DHEA can be converted to Estrogen. The Zinc ensures it becomes testosterone.

[–]BornShook2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Good shit man.

Add ashwaganda and B12 in there as well for the fuck of it. Thats what I take everyday. D3, zinc, DHEA (most days), ashwaganda and b12.

[–]OminousOmnipotence1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Well. If you want my full

50mg DHEA Tribulus 100mg Zinc 15000 Units of D (I live north) Arginine 1500mg Fenugreek Multi Vitamin

I'm looking up Ashwaganda now.

[–]BornShook1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Decent man. What id fenugreek for? Ive heard of that one but never considered it.

Ashwaganda is definitly worth trying. There was a study that showed that men who used it everyday for 3 months had a 33% boost in testosterone levels.

[–]OminousOmnipotence1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fenugreek and Tribulus both improve athletic performace and testosterone levels.

I started taking as a competitive athlete and have just maintained. I just learned Magnesium also frees up loose testosterone increasing levels by 25% so I am add that to my regiment.

As I continue being an old guy I can attest I definitely feel younger.

[–]SpaceEnthusiast0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

100 mg of Zn sounds like a lot dude...

[–]OminousOmnipotence0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am cheap so I buy Zinc Gluconate which is only like 20% absorption rate so it's super cheap to buy. My doctor reccomended Zinc Acetate or Zinc Orotate which has a better absorption rate but way more expensive.

So, 100mg is really only like 20mg being absorbed.

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[–]pastarotolo5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, vitamin D is fat soluble which means it can cross cell membranes unfacilitated and be stored in cells.

Hell, our bodies are so good at soaking it up that taking too much can be toxic- that doesn’t happen quite so easily with water soluble vitamins, like vitamin C, which you do piss out quite quickly

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Half-Life of D3 is less than 2 months.

[–]bharg50 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It’s not just pissed out from not being utilised quickly?

[–]rakeshgupta13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gotta fix myself, my left leg's nerve kills me even when I'm not doing any lifting.

[–]TominatorXX3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

But don't take a multi -- buy a 5,000 IU capsules of D-3 and take one a day or 7 once a week.

All you need to know: www.vitamindcouncil.org.

[–]VictxrSenpai2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Can you live in the desert, get sun all day on your skin and still be deficient ?

[–]FinallyRed4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely not unless you have a disorder. Lifeguarding in the summer has given me so much D it actually holds me over through the winter.

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[–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You might be better off, really not entirely sure. Like I said at the bottom, best way to know for sure is just get your bloodwork done at the doctor. You should anyway, it'll tell you how your cholesterol is, blood glucose, white blood cell count, fat levels, vitamin deficiencies, possibly indicate cancer. Definitely a thing worth checking out especially if you're noticing you're a little "off."

[–]1v1crown2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Any idea what the best supplement to buy is?

[–]DokDaka2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like pure therapeutics liquid d plus k from amazon

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[–]SolarWizard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's right. In general taking vitamins and minerals to supplement your diet in general does sweet fuck all. If your vitamin D levels are normally good then supplementing above and beyond this will not make any difference. The supplement business is always pushing people to take multivitamins but unless you have a deficiency then it wont make a difference. However if you are low in vit D or don't get much sunlight then it could be worth looking into. I am a fan of taking vit D in the winter to stave off seasonal affective disorder.

[–]0FO62 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Really want to emphasize taking the correct amount. It is really easy to overdose on vitamin d . Taking too much has some serious toxic effects like but not limited to: kidney failure, bone loss, stomach pain, constipation, nausea, vomiting, poor appetite, elevated blood calcium levels, and elevated blood levels.

There are some foods that have naturally occurring vitamin D. There are a few different kinds of fish that can provide vitamin D, like salmon, herring, sardines, cod, tuna, oysters, shrimp.

The general consensus of what I could find says that around 2000 to 4000 iu a day should be good without getting too much into the toxicity range. I bring this up as my brother ended up borderline getting into the toxic range by taking over 10,000 iu of vitamin D for several months and started having a variety of issues from it.

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, I'm trying to make sure everyone in this thread doesn't just start loading up without consulting with their doctor. Tried to emphasize the need to get blood work done and do things carefully. I think I'm gonna edit the post.

[–]space_midgit0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Isn’t this only from synthetic sources? Like vitamin A.

[–]0FO60 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You mean foods that have Vitamin D? The fish I mentioned have it naturally occurring

[–]space_midgit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry I was unclear. I was under the impression that synthetic vitamin d like a; can cause problems. But if it is supplemented with diet not pill; quantity can be much greater.

[–]TriggeringEveryone2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What the fuck happened at the top of the comments?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just today I took a little bit of sunlight in a lot of time due to bad weather and I already feel better.

[–]Don_Himself1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

i grew 2 iron midgets as hands once i fixed my diet and started getting necessary vitamins

[–]soider80 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Which vitamins did you take in addition?

[–]Don_Himself0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

magnesium, zinc, vit D, and cutting back on iron (donating blood frequently extends your life)

[–]soider80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the reply, didn’t know that about iron. Just started a similar supplement regime and I’m experiencing some pain in my bones, apparently it’s normal for those who are very deficient however.

[–]Alchemist_XP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Couldn’t have said it any fucking better myself

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Regarding Vitamin D at such high levels, I believe you’re only supposed to take it for 3 months, just until your levels are good again. I don’t think you’re supposed to take high levels for very long. I could be wrong...

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

My doctor recommended me 2 D3 pills (forget the exact dosage) per day. We'll see down the road, he didn't say to lower my dosage, but I plan on getting blood work done every year from here on out. Ever since I got sober, my health is numero uno.

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As it should be. Congratulations on your sobriety.

[–]jeddzus[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, after years of drug usage, family wrecking, friend losing, crime committing, probation serving, beta-bucking, and rock bottom hitting, I finally learned my lesson. I finally learned why for the previous 25-26 years I felt the way I did, and acted the way I did, and turned to drugs in the first place. Best thing that ever happened to me, wouldn't change it for the world.

[–]nofishtocatch1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Do you not drink milk? The majority of us do, and that gives us about 50% DV of D per cup.

[–]jeddzus[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't really drink milk, especially 2 cups on a daily basis. I consume about the amount that I put in my coffee when I drink it and that's about it lol. I'm more of a water/iced tea kindof guy. But hey, good on you man, how ever you get your nutrients.

[–]nofishtocatch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do take supplements of it occasionally, and going to more often now thanks to your post. Despite drinking milk I only drink a cup of it, being less mindful of the D benefits. It's just something I drank a lot of when I was younger.

[–]donkey_democrat2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The DV is too low of a dose, that's what others in this sub are talking about. Some say take anywhere from 4-10k daily

[–]DeadPisces1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

4mins of Vitamin D info goodness from aweso e researcher Dr. Rhonda Patrick: https://youtu.be/uc815fQn8iY... This is a great post as most folks are deficient and could benefit greatly from supplementing their diet with it.

[–]bigbodybuilderr1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I take about 6k IU a day is that good?

[–]RxDrugEvent0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a 15% chance that it is between 2,000IU and 10,000IU

[–]Raknith1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have a vitamin D3 supplement that says to take 2 every day, should I take 2 or more? I have a multivitamin too, should I take them at the same time? Regular dose? For reference I get about <5 minutes of sun on an average day and usually eat unhealthy (i'm working on it)

how much d3 and multivitamin should I take?

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not a doctor, sir. Depends on your weight, your current levels, etc. I'd highly recommend getting bloodwork done (for a multitude of reasons) and working with your doctor. I don't take multivitamins, I only take this one, and it was a dosage recommended by my doctor. I believe it was like 2000 twice a day. Don't quote me on that though, the bottle is in my bathroom at home I'm not sure lol. You'd be better off doing research online or consulting a doctor.

[–]andyman301 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was having this issue as well, can vouch for the good ol' Vitamin D helping me have more energy. I thought it was a thyroid issue, but ended up with WAY more energy after taking 5000iu a day. My asshole doctor literally thought I was on steroids and that is why I had energy issues, (25yo and relatively muscular). Glad I started taking it!

[–]Mildsoss1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't skimp on the iodine bro.

[–]greatslyfer[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a person working in London, crikey!

[–]SKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe this is why cabin fever is a thing...

[–]IdoNtEvEnWaTz2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I started growing some chest hair after taking vitamin d lol.

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

This made me LOL. Is this really true? How old were you when you started taking it?

[–]MortalSisyphus0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

You say "fuck" a lot. Once or twice is okay but if you keep repeating it, it sounds lazy and ignorant. No offense, just a word of advice.

[–]EL_TATICH6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Insulting that much makes OP looks like a 14 yo trying to give advices here.

[–]jeddzus[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

I said "in the beginning us beta fucks need all the help we can get." In the beginning of TRP, those people tend to be beta who need all the help they can get, no? It's just humorous I don't get what's so offensive lol, it's like when R. Lee Ermey calls male troops a bunch of skirt wearing ladies. It's just a joke.

[–]EL_TATICH0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, chill dude, we didn't say it was offensive, it just make you sound like a child.

[–]jeddzus[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the vocab coaching, but I don't want it, let me stay internet ignorant.

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[–]rgmw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I understand, and I take, that D3 should be taking with K2 to maximize D3, and I believe to reduce or eliminate side effects that can be brought on by taking only vitamin D.

[–]1redpilldick0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What's the best way to hit all the bases with multivitamins (ADEK Zinc B6 B12 etc)? Many single pill supplements don't have the best bioavailability

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Consult with your doctor. Don't just take blanket multivitamins for the hell of it. Get testing if you show symptoms of things being "off."

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The best way would be to have a well balanced diet, but I agree with op. Consult your doctor, and if youre low on any vitamin levels, supplement for those

[–]Seven_Veils0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good thing I live in Florida

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is it possible to consume too much vitamin D for it to take effect? I've been taking a multivitamin for a while now and I've noticed no difference and I'm wondering ifnI should also take a vitamin D pill on top of that

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No, read the bottom of my post. Don't just take vitamins and minerals because "they're all good for me right!?!" That's not the right way to do shit. You'll only notice a difference if you're deficient. It seems like you AREN'T deficient. Just like if you're skinny as fuck and not getting enough calories, then you need to intake more calories. But if you're already getting enough, then you're going to do the wrong thing by taking more.

[–]Dark_T1000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you so much for this post mate. I have vitamin d pills just laying around ill start taking them again.

[–]ddado20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd vouch for a lot of the benefits mentioned here. However, high doses of Vit D (8000IU) gave me brain fog. I started Magnesium 250mg to help and cut back to 2000 IU of D.

I wake up very early in the morning too - I'm full of energy but brain is super foggy. I have not figured out a fix.

I have good clarity and sleep well when I go completely off Vit D but then I start to have muscle pain and fatigue. Going off Mg gives me muscle cramps.

Now I skip days. I take 2000 D and 250 Mg 2-3 times a week. I wish there was a fix for brain fog and sleep problems (related I think).

[–]JohnnyFontane70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

so many different Supplement Options. I take the 5000 IU with olive oil number one from Amazon but a friend says that the reviews are all lies as its synthetic and not made from whole foods. IDK. Which Supplement do you take/Recommend for the D??

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[–]jeddzus[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hey man yeah I take this one: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-vitamin-d-softgels-5000iu-100ct-prodid-1010704?skuId=717911 twice a day. Those that you showed me once a day would be fine I think. You should consult with your doctor though. Especially because you've already found out (I assume through him?) that you're deficient.

[–]IClogToilets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The number of times a day is irrelevant. Vitamin D is stored in fat if not immediately used. Twice a day ... or once a week, not a big difference. Just don't let your fat reserves become depleted.

[–]M23W0OH7FV2t0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

there is a legit problem called vitamin overdose - it's a real thing. You can mess up your kidneys, liver, heart, etc

This is a little alarmist. Vitamins are of two classes -- fat soluble (A, D, E, and K) and water soluble (B* and C). Those that are water soluble pose no problems for health, even in extremely high doses. Indeed, Nobel laureate Linus Pauling, used to megadose on vitamin C. However, given that OP focuses on vitamin D, this paragraph is tangental.

Now to the more relevant, according to the Mayo Clinic, vitamin D is only toxic when there is more than 100 times the recommended daily amount in your bloodstream.

[–]Kent_Kinky0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good call. The biggest benefit for me was the calcium absorption. Took a doctor prescribed megadose of vitamin d for a certain number of weeks and my calcium levels shot through the roof.

[–]BornShook0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I started taking a fish oil pill every morning, and I felt great. I didnt really pay attention to the other ingredients that were in the pill but I decided to look one day and realised that it had 133% rdv of vitamin D. Looked it up, and realised that was why I felt so great on it. Better sleep, more organised, more active, better gains, etc.

[–]Rndm_0100 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What food has high amount of vitamin d?

[–]FlatEarther1990 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Will it help me lose my virginity at the age of 27?

[–]IClogToilets1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, but you will wack off with more vigor.

[–]drunksaver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Almost everyone that works inside is VitD deficient. Especially during the winter.

[–]SpaceEnthusiast0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The stack you should take is something like Vitamin D3 + Vitamin K1 + Magnesium, for best effects. Careful with the Calcium too.

[–]AshyBoneVR40 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow this makes sense. I was taking VitD supplements for a while because my VitD count was insanely low too. I stopped and everything just started going wrong. Guess I'll start back up again.

Also.... what the hell is up with all the removed comments? What'd I miss?

[–]elfonite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

that's great! this year I was prescribed vitamin D3 and I realized how much fatigued I used to be, I knew that something was not fine and that others were leading an energetic life. Vitamin D3 restored my energy levels and it helped me reclaim long lost vitality. it was as if somebody turned up the brightness slider within. no more getting tired during day time. it's the elixir I've been missing. go for Vitamin D3 and not the synthetic variant D2. it is advised that Vitamin D3 should be taken along with magnesium.

[–]readordie130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I take a Gold Juice Supplement with a warm glass of coconut milk before bed, has plenty of Vitamin D sourced from whole food ingredients. From what I noticed, my sleep is great, have a consistent upbeat mood and noticing less inflammation. I'm not much of a pill person, I believe its best to get nutrients from whole food sources.

You can check it out here: https://www.organifishop.com/collections/organifi-gold/products/1-bottle-supply-organifi-gold

[–]YoIAmRoadTripping0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can you speak to tanning and if you can reap benefits of Viramin D from visiting a tanning bed? Or is that stupid?

If anyone has experience please share!

[–]Rakosnik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes you can. exposure to UVB radiation triggers vitamin D synthesis in the body. sunbeds can produce that sprectrum of light.

its actually quite effective way of boosting vitamin D without supplements.

[–]gotstodoit90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Vitamin D is legit. Probably one of the few supplements/vitamins worth taking

[–]iSwallowedTRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Once you started taking vitamin D, how long until you started to realize the increase in testosterone?

[–]marcinbzq0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"I'm not a doctor": shut up and stop giving people medical advice.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-rise-and-inevitable-fall-of-vitamin-d/

[–]rgmw0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Definitely a lot to it... We're often short of needed nutrients by virtue of not being outside enough. Other factors are bad food choices (including but not limited to, GMO food, junk food, artificial sweeteners).

Take vitamin D3 and K2 together for improving the effects of D3.

Although my doctor found I was low on D, the real magic didn't begin until I went to a natru-path. (Disclaimer: shop carefully for one... Many are in it for the money or can give you bad info and/or hurt you). At the natru-path, I found I was significantly low on L-tyrosine. I've felt a lot better since. The NP/ND aren't covered by insurance, so I've spent about $800 out of pocket. But it has been worth every penny. (this amount includes only 2 appts and 1 test)

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I know, the processed food and sugar especially are def my next targets. Really hard to make the change all at once and I'm still getting adjusted to gym 3-4 times a week + no soda lol. Can't take too much at one time. I'll check out the natru-path tho, thanks for the heads up. I used to not believe in a lot of that shit but I've since found sometimes they really know their shit.

[–]valerioluc-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

I would never take advice for health on trp, it's not the right channel, the vast majority here is the casual gym bro at the best, no saying that this advice in particular is bad, but could lead to unbalanced values of the vitamin d (which alone do shit if you don't go to the sun) and other nutrients

[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Actual quote from my post "Get a blood test, make sure you aren't deficient in shit anything. Taking vitamins and minerals just "because they're good for me RIGHT!?" is dumb as hell. Find out for sure. Fix your shit. Fix yourself. Grow and improve" I explicitly said don't just take it to take it. I'm just saying if you show some of these symptoms you could possibly be suffering from this and it really sucks to be deficient in it.

[–]valerioluc-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's not that simple, research has to go further than blood test, if you are deficient in something you are going to make more damage trying to address it by simply taking a supplement than if you stay like now. First of all the form of vit d you can use without the sun it's d3, if you take d without sun means shit, secondly, as for the dosage of d3 you are using you have to address magnesium an k2 AT LEAST, should be a rule of the sub to not make this kind of post.

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're getting a blood test, a doctor is going to give you recommendations. I don't think recommending to people they get a blood test and fix their health issues is such an injurious post.

[–]RedPilledRoaster-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Vitamin D is in most multivitamins. I’d reccomend just getting a men’s multivitamin (I reccomend Tru Men’s multi) and you won’t have to worry about this shit anymore.

[–]tibikush2012-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

I think it is extremely overstated how important this vitamin is... Northren europeans throughout history did just fine even though they rarely get any sun (they were bigger and stronger than the rest of the people on the planet).

[–]jeddzus[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Every study of course needs to be taken with a grain of salt, they often don't apply to EVERY person. That's why I included my personal anecdote as well. A lot of evolutionary scientists conclude that Northern Europeans skin makeup and ability to digest milk were shaped literally by the need for better Vitamin D absorption. Source: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/04/how-europeans-evolved-white-skin

[–]Run_Che2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gotta have that fish died though.

[–]Hyper_Sonik-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Be careful, I read that vitamin D can actually pull calcium from your bones and lead to osteoporosis. But yeah, vitamin D is definitely important.

[–]Run_Che2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Isn't it other way around? You got source?

[–]Cappadona-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

False. Its a placebo effect. This guys from the Vitamin industry trying to shill his useless pills.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Stop trying to shame people mate, we only need the help, we don't need to be told we're fucking beta.

Good work on telling people to look at their vitamin D deficiency though

[–]Run_Che1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

we don't need to be told we're fucking beta.

Why not, part of not being a beta is not giving a shit about random stranger on net telling you ur a beta. You know, the whole, don't be a snowflake thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because aren't we supposed to be using this as a way to improve mankind, not degenerate into being bitches for the sake of internet brownie points.

Men should help men become men.

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Haha I'm not trying to shame people, wasn't my intention, was just making a joke - slightly self deprecating. I actually don't consider myself beta at all. Maybe it's a habit from my alcoholics anonymous days.... who knows.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Beta anonymous.

Fair play though man, sometimes anger is easier to bring out when talking about the beta actions. vitamin D is helpful regardless though and i'm pretty sure that a lot of people are struggling because of the way we have to work indoors as apposed to our natural state = outside

[–]vitringur-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

But what if I don't consider any of these to be a serious problem for me?

[–]jeddzus[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then you are superior to me. Obviously.

[–]vitringur-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or maybe I don't have a vitamin D deficiency.

[–]Matacks607-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just take a calcium supplement. When I first started taking it I got headaches but then it went away. Pretty sweet huh?

[–]cesar-perez-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Vitamin D should be classified as a steroid.

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[–]jeddzus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Check the bottom of my post. I'm not recommending just everybody take it for the hell of it. I'm saying get your blood work done, make sure you are/aren't deficient, and improve your health. After getting blood work, your certified doctor will give you medical advice based on science.



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