I quit my job teaching yesterday. Without leadership or integrity, mediocrity rises to the top.

Johnny-Thunderfrost · 2018-04-06T00:45:49+00:00

All too true, the leadership has no backbone. Last year my former principal was accused by a well known whore for allegedly saying “You make me feel like a dirty old man.” What a fucking obviously made up line, but that doesn’t matter to these people. Suspended then fired within 3 weeks. Later last year another man (A daily substitute) was fired because he called a girl “sweetheart”. This old man was the most endearing human I have ever met, and called everyone sweetheart or lad. Doesn’t matter. Fired.

CursingWhileNursing · 2018-04-06T00:28:47+00:00

I believe you scraped the surface of a cultural problem in the western world.

The education system is largely filled with glorified babysitters and politicized administration.
The average child deserves better.
Educational budgets and the entire education system needs to be completely redrawn.
Every hierarchy filled with women will create unnecessary hurdles that have nothing to do with the original goals and team mission, but rather their own personal issues being injected like a cancer which disrupt the systematic process and team morale.

Best of luck in your next career search or whatever education institution you might work at next.

laylowwww · 2018-04-06T02:27:58+00:00

Bro, I feel you. I see it in my corporate job as well. One thing you can't do is allow the lowest common denominator to penetrate your frame and rule your emotions. I run and lift 4-5 days a week. I am consistently shit-tested and prodded by mouth breathers within the corporate structure. I've taken to meditation and had to dig deep not to allow this kind of shit to affect me. I will never let a slob get the best of me. Kudos for doing you though.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T02:23:27+00:00

If you take away everything that offends somebody,

eventually nothing is left for anybody.

Baloo020 · 2018-04-06T03:09:00+00:00

God, my father always told me “Teachers become teachers because they get no respect in the real world, so they demand respect from little kids.” I have found that to be more true as I progress through my final years of schooling. Whenever you don’t obey their commands like the dog they want you to be, they freak the fuck out.

monsieurhire2 · 2018-04-06T05:58:41+00:00

Instead of quitting, you should have schemed to TAKE OVER. If these people are really as mediocre as you say, it would have been relatively easy to oust them through a coup. You could still try it. Get a bunch of people with similar minds, and take over the school board and fire the principal and install yourself. Then get rid of all the mediocre policies and people.

officeManipulator · 2018-04-06T03:31:28+00:00

Young Man,

I totally sympathize with you, and I do think this is a political issue, and it is at a huge expense to humanity.

Let me try to lace some of my own thoughts to what you have said and see what comes out of it:

Very well paying job, and making 20% on top of my base because I’ve been able to teach an extra class after school.

There's always the 80/20 rule where 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people.
And my advice is, if you are in the top 20% of your community, take this opportunity to step up yourself as a leader and hire people to work for you so that you can show them how it's done.

Fundamental truth: A big mistake we did as people of the world is to rely on our respective government to give us education, instead of customizing our own. There has never been a government who teaches its citizens how to join the private sector, how to do taxes, how to start an entrepreneurship, how to become good leaders, and how to advocate for a small government (hence smaller government control) so there're more market freedom and allows for people to bring the best out of themselves. People who have been trained to depend on the government and failed to break out of that shell end up becoming a sheep who depended on others. When people become sheep, the first approach to a problem is "Who should I call to fix this?" instead of "How do I fix this?" and will continue to blame others for their own shortcomings.

And as we already seen, these people are going to sheep themsleves to others when they take leadership roles e.g. pleasing the minority, pleasing the naysayers at the expense of the customers (i.e. the children of our future).

The main reason I said most of us has gone wrong is because we failed to do the most crucial mistake: We failed to blame ourselves for not takin control of our education, so when we let others shape our education, they don't shape it to our interest; ratther they shaped it against our interests.

Either way, the dumb cunt made enough stink that the principal had to go scramble and find another teacher who she could offer an extra class to teach, surprise, only one other teacher took it.

Unfortunately people like this exist around the globe, and the best you can do is kick them out if you have the power. The problem is compounded when the leader is a sheep who has no leadership skills. When the leadership has become more arbitrary, it becomes poorer and ends up causing so much damage accordingly.

The best thing for you to do is per my advise above: start your own thing and show your staff how leadership is done.

Then it hit me: KIDS ARE BEING TAUGHT BY POSERS.

Unfortunately this is very true in a community of people who don't give a shit. People who uses their mouths instead of their limbs to do work.

The job was getting to me. Mediocrity was starting to rub off on me.

I'm actually very happy that you left that shithole place. Now you can do more, do better and shut these people down.

Which brings me to my final point: EDUCATION IS FUCKED BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP.

This goes back to my fundamental truth point: there is no leadership because we never took control from the beginning.

Here is an insightful share of my personal experience over the above matter, in Corporate context:

I work in a corporate environment. I'd say the poeple are something like this (which most of us can find in our workplaces):

Mediocrity, play not to lose: as long as there's one party to blame on, coming in first or second last has equal weightage. There is no incentive for excellence; only incentives for not coming in last.
Hostile work environment: A man can no longer use words like "sweetheart", "thank you", "Dearie" (the only "dear" that could be use is in the email opener), "Cute", "Elegant" as a remark to women as that is treated with hostility.
Non-human: because we take out these words from the vocabulary which comprises humanizing experiences, people forget what it means to be a human and behaves so
Dependant: Instead of going "how do I fix this/get this done" they say "I cant get this done. I need someone else to do it". And when they get into a precarious position (like a bonus cut or a pay cut), they blame the Senior Management for not doing a good enough job.
Poor Leadership: Leaders want everyone to be the same, so there is no "denial of opportunity", so they punish anyone who eemed to perform.

My solution:

My free time, my own thing. I quit social media surfing, motivate others, create a business plan to serve others, and take the advantage of corporate training to train my soft skills, managerial skills, business skills etc. All for me and me only.
My innovation, all for me. I have found a way to hide under the radar to do a day's work in 2 hours, so I can spend the next 6 hours learning about my thing.
Take advantage of their weaknesses to grow yourself to the fullest.

InsideSentence · 2018-04-06T00:53:04+00:00

I'm also a teacher and agree with lots of things you said, but you'll find there's a shitty hierarchy in many occupations. Our job as teachers are to serve the students, and we make many sacrifices for it. You might want to look into charter schools that follow a different philosophy, there are plenty of schools in rougher areas where you can get away with your creativity and pedagogy.

I had a lucrative summer contract that recently ended due to a toxic work environment. It was a very popular summer program where we taught classes at Ivy league universities for international students spending a month abroad. Great pay and experience, but shitty project manager and co-worker over the last year convinced me that I couldn't torture myself another summer just to get paid.

But please, don't let this get to your head. It's shitty and I feel you. I don't see the point in destroying a letterhead owned by Einstein. You have to have more discipline and control over your emotions my man. Stay focused.

Marr0w1 · 2018-04-06T05:31:03+00:00

I didn't even realise this was a TRP post.

I'd like to introduce you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

TLDR: People will perform at a level acceptably for long enough that they'll eventually be promoted to a level at which they're not competent. Being incompetent isn't usually enough to get you demoted/fired, but will just prevent you from being promoted.

This applies in your situation because the other teachers can remain incompetent and stay in their role indefinitely, as long as they dont actually aspire to be promoted. Also perfectly competent teachers will probably eventually be promoted to dean/headmaster, which might require a different skillset, and they might actually suck at, but because they were good teachers, they've ended up there.

Don't feel down, don't let being surrounded by lazy retards diminish your work ethic. If you get paid well to do what you love, you've hit the jackpot.

Source: my parents are longtime teachers. Also in the military it's exactly the same, you'll either be surrounded by your peers who have no drive/ambition, and are happy to sit at their 'level of incompetence' indefinitely, or you'll be working under managers who were good at their chosen jobs so got promoted, but aren't necessarily any good at management (because it's really it's own skillset).

EnragedParrot · 2018-04-06T04:59:19+00:00

I first started college to be a teacher. Within the first year I realized what bullshit it was. Changed to engineering. Never looked back.

aDrunkenWhaler · 2018-04-06T06:45:29+00:00

Do you have savings? How much money will you earn from your 'art'? Will it be enough to cover your monthly expenses and lifestyle? Does it even have any market value? If not, you are a naive and impulsive dumbass to lose it all over a tantrum. I'm guessing very young also. Yeah, the system is corrupt, that witch was a bitch and the principal a pussy, but that shit happens everywhere in life. Your job is to focus on your interests and well being, and play the game. Not fucking run from it. Impulsive decisions are for women and children. Quitting your job and well being because some cunt was a cunt is retarded. You could have worked on your art outside work, or simply apply for a different job and quit after you signed the papers. The upvotes won't put food on your plate.

nofilmynofucky · 2018-04-06T07:15:05+00:00

Pretty unimpressed that you'd deface a historic artifact with that trash scribbling. If that's the sort of edgy shit you consider art I'd recommend you take this opportunity to change career paths

honestly who the fuck does that?

theory of fuckativity

Are you 12?

TheEnglishman28 · 2018-04-06T05:51:39+00:00

Government education, not even once.

Teach at a private school.

SaintHolland · 2018-04-06T08:10:32+00:00

There are three types of education

Working class education.

This is the conveyor belt education in the modern west. Basic literacy. Original thinking is punished while conformity and obedience is rewarded.

Middle class education.

This is the professional education you find in universities like law, engineering, health etc.

Ruling class education.

This is the leadership education for the top 3%. Private one on one tutoring. Read the classics. Learn history inside and out. Understand the trivium (grammar, logic, and rhetoric) in depth. Learning how to run a country as a statesman.

... realised this year that I had only recieved a working class education. Teaching myself grammar and logic at the moment (which makes your thinking precise af) and reading the classics (homer, plato and so on - teaches me how the world works, how power is used etc) and biographies of great men (washington, t.roosevelt, napoleon - which teaches me what it is possible to achieve). Highly recommended.

At the very least, learn the history of the west. Knowledge of the past is crucial.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2018-04-06T06:35:39+00:00

The catalyst. I found out that there was another teacher complaining about how it is not fair that I teach an extra class and other teachers don’t. Not once has this teacher asked if she could teach an extra class ... and instead of minding her own business, she tried to throw a monkey wrench on my after school art class.

This is fairly typical - what she thinks isn't fair is that you are making more $. Fuck the work that goes into it. She doesn't want any part of that. She just thinks "No fair!" Probably complains about the "wage gap" too.

She is old, rotten, ugly and her husband is always out of town ~~working on some aerospace project~~ avoiding Dame Edna and nailing younger, hotter women.

FTFY.

shwadevivre · 2018-04-06T12:12:51+00:00

Principals, in Canada at least, aren’t paying lip service to... whatever group you want to blame. They’re bottom level administrators who answer to school board who try corporate metrics to determine the worth of a school. Passing rates and satisfaction rates are more important in these than actual education, which is why they kiss so much ass - it makes the school seem better, which makes them look like a successful administrator, which catapults their career.

The problem is the administration, lack of properly allocated funds or incentives for good teachers to stay, and the way education is a plaything of posturing politicians to get elected while actual teaching is left behind.

It’s too bad that you’re not strong enough to be that good teacher in a sea of terrible ones, because these are important too, but it doesn’t reflect negatively on you because that is a largely thankless task until you meet your students 10-15 years down the road who remember you and your efforts. These beautiful moments don’t pay the bills or ease your current stress.

Good luck.

GayLubeOil · 2018-04-06T16:16:40+00:00

Here's an interesting question: How can a group of people who shun innovation, hard work and are basically power point readers and rubric followers inspire children with a a love of knowledge? What were dealing with here is slave morality.. Slaves belong on a plantation not tending to the most valuable resource we have our children.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T17:41:41+00:00

My sister taught for 5 years and just quit for literally all the reasons you mentioned. Even the same story of getting a call 5 minutes later from the superintendent.

Came to the realization that 19/20 teachers are just people OK making $50k for the rest of their life, which tells you something. They’re crabs in a bucket who hate their life.

She taught summer school, started their engineering classes, assistant coach on the basketball team and was at every football/play/extracurricular event.

Got stonewalled by leadership/other teachers at every turn trying to improve anything and everything.

Realized the education system was built on the backs of people like her who were “doing God’s work” donating their talents to the “noble profession” of teaching.

She’s going to make >2x salary at her first private sector job, will have better hours, and can donate her time to helping kids in other ways.

It’s so fucking broken.

uwey · 2018-04-06T00:42:29+00:00

These people you hate seems to get on top of power curve by ignoring what appear to be social rules that people pre-establish. They focus their time on how to net personal favor effectively.

The fat slob PE teacher may suck dick and get his position secured, money talks, don't take my share of the pie.

Just kissing ass to the vocal minorities and destroying standards

Learn to read the social narrative in the trend, or you will get public hanged as the scapegoat. People love to watch the scapegoat suffer...

Most teacher I know had the different path, either private elite school or college tenure. The power struggle is much worse, almost Mongol-level of brutality.

Good luck

midgetpooooo · 2018-04-06T01:40:16+00:00

You gotta play the workforce game better rather than rant here. Not that I don't agree, it's just that you should have some actionable insights other than e=mc fuck youuuu lol.

One would be to play the PC politics well and in your favor at work. Never talk about politics at work, never bring up anything controversial, but do use the same tactics the ugly cunt does to your advantage, Game of Thrones style (Cersei and Littlefinger as inspiration) to get what you want.

PhaedrusHunt · 2018-04-06T01:59:12+00:00

My children's school is run by disgusting SJW type lesbians. God help em

Entropy-7 · 2018-04-06T04:25:29+00:00

I had a nightmare posting to a school where they were more concerned about papering their files and covering thier ass rather than about teaching the kids anything.

I am a Canadian ex-pat in China.

EvigSoeger · 2018-04-06T10:49:35+00:00

I'm a late Millennial/early Gen Z, and even here in Europe, you hit the nail on the head. Almost every teacher I've had was either a passive or bordering on feminine man, or women of varying degrees of bitterness, all preaching the same old shit.

The only teacher I've ever had really stand out was an older women with a clearly conservative mind, who taught religion and philosophy. Even though she was obviously way past her prime, this woman embraced traditional femininity in her attitude and style of teaching so much that you could feel it when she walking the classroom. She was happily married with kids, highly educated, traditionally spiritual (but absolutely loved fostering discussion with us edgy atheist teenagers) and was 100% passionate about her field of work.

That's the kind of teachers kids need. Traditional role models with actual competence.

seducter · 2018-04-06T13:01:52+00:00

This hit too close to home, only I’m an accountant. I used to wonder why every publicly traded company I worked for had a shitload of old erp software that was never kept up to date and always required the digital equivalent of duct tape and hope to keep it together.

It’s the leadership.

My last company I was at, the Controller quit within a month and left me in charge of 3 direct reports. I had no idea what to do but I told everyone we were going to get through this and that I was going to help them clear whatever obstacles were in their way.

-I shut down sales guys entering po’s wrong in the system by meeting with the sales managers who these lazy fucks reported to (seriously, these guys couldn’t give a shit if they entered a $1M po as $800k or $1.3M. If you enter a po as $800k you leave $200k ON THE TABLE! If you enter it as $1.3M YOU DON’T GET PAID!

-As a result our customers were now paying (I got AR down from $25M to $600k) by developing processes that ensure we get paid

-I was crucial in upgrading their ancient ERP software

-I fixed so many audit issues (seriously, how the fuck does PWC sign off on a $2M variance between what your books say you have vs what you have - think they got some leadership issues of their own).

I fixed so much shit they said the books have never been better, unfortunately it was oil and gas so you know how that story goes.

But back to your point, the next company I joined is right back to doing things willy nilly. Every day they do the same thing 5 or 6 different ways. I fix something but overnight they circumvent it.

It’s the leadership.

As a leader I saw the power you truly have to change things, but now that I’m back to a normal accountant role, I no longer have the “title” or sway that allows me to do that, but the ones who CAN change things here, the leadership, well they act like the changes should come from the ground up. But those sales guys taught me you talk to the top and enforce change down.

Enjoy the decline.

ReddJive · 2018-04-06T14:36:48+00:00

I have a disability. I am not afraid to bring it out into the open.

I cannot work in a corporate environment. I can't. I have hard time dealing with the drones. I also have a slight issue with authority. Mainly because if I feel I can do the job better than my boss? I lose respect for them and frankly I am more qualified for my bosses job then he is.

I also tire of the baby sitting style of leadership. You know the one. Where you uncover an issue and you bring it up, then the boss flips the script on you instantly telling you that you need to get this done. Like...mother fucker I just told you it needed to get done and the plan to do it. THEN you get an email from him to the next senior leaders how he tasked YOU to do x y z. MOTHER. FUCKER.

Yeah I could quit. Leave behind the reputation, respect I have built in the community because...well I just couldn't deal with some fucks. Or I could figure out what's up with me. Why I can't deal with these issues. How better to use these obstacles I have for better ends. I mean there is a 48 Law moment in there somewhere right?

Any way why should I let what my boss do bother me? I am not looking for a promotion. It's a long story but like I said I can't function in a corporate environment. I am well paid for what I do. I have some flexibility in my time. I am working on exciting projects and work directly with the bleeding edge of military and law enforcement.

IN all things in your life. There is one common denominator. The irritations of the world are not going to leave. Quit your job, burn it all down, and start anew. You are still there in the middle of it all. You don't have to fix the world, in fact I advise against it. You still have to live here.

Rage at them.

Laugh at yourself.

It's all bullshit in the end.

red_matrix · 2018-04-06T17:46:31+00:00

Damn dude, I feel you. But - never make a decision when you're angry, that goes double for BIG decisions. The thing is - this problem you see is everywhere, it's in the corporate world too. You can't escape it. I want to quit as well, but I'll end up right back at square one. The entire system is infected and I don't know what to do.

askmrcia · 2018-04-06T02:15:29+00:00

High school student here, my school is 95% fucking retards who somehow got a degree to teach. I haven’t learn a single thing in my 4 years at school and I have a 3.5 gpa. All of the teachers and staff are just out to get the students. It’s ridiculous.

bettermyself1 · 2018-04-06T08:52:17+00:00

Yeah these people irratate me, just cuse you got something they want to take it away so you can be even. Bit they dont want anything for them self's,

TitanUcheze · 2018-04-06T03:09:29+00:00

“Those who cannot do, teach. Those who cannot teach, teach gym.”

jimbad05 · 2018-04-06T02:44:02+00:00

Off topic, but it's good to know that cool art teachers exist.

I always sucked at drawing and stuff despite my best efforts. My middle school art teacher agreed while providing no tips for improvement. I got a C-. Why the hell gets a C- in art when they're actually trying?

To this day I have no use for art or creative types in general.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T14:56:53+00:00

You just described every place I've ever worked. It's not just within the school system. My ex wife was an art teacher and couldn't understand why the other art teachers snubbed her. She would get passed over constantly for classes she wanted to teach. She couldn't understand that the reason was those other women were spending their down time bonding and gossiping and otherwise securing their place in their group. While they were doing that she was off campus coaching diving. It probably didn't help that she was hot and flirtatious.

She quit coaching a couple of years after we divorced and last time I talked to her she said she got that class she had been wanting to teach for the last 8 years.

Anyway, the point is, in any work environment you need to know how to play the game. Sounds like you had a pretty good set up there. With as frustrating as it might have been rage quitting isn't really to your benefit.

I don't know if you'll still be interested in teaching. Maybe a private school would be better for you. They are actually held accountable there rather than functioning as a babysitter.

There will still be incompetence and idiocy anywhere you work. You just have to learn how to let it shed off your back like water over a duck.

blister333 · 2018-04-06T04:19:20+00:00

Unfortunately this is more widespread than you know. All those kids go into society and spread the same mentality. The root is Marxism, plain and simple. Western Classics education posited the idea that anyone could become great through the manly application of reason, physical fitness, and moral character. Marxists said “that’s racist” and the state gave in. Why? Because if you believe that as long as you’re not a mediocre piece of shit you’ll be fine in society, then that necessarily implies that people who are dumb, lazy, fat, etc. DID IT TO THEMSELVES—gasp! Personal responsibility? No!

The first step is purging every semblance of Marxism (i.e. feminist theory, queer theory, critical race theory, moral relativism, multiculturalism, postmodernism, transgenderism, social constructionism, etc.) from the education system.

The second step is reintroducing the Western classics and Western Civ courses as MANDATORY in every grade and every school/university.

SKRedPill · 2018-04-06T02:55:19+00:00

One of my professors once taught a class in a well known university in the US. He wrote a basic equation related to something : x^2+bx+c = 0 (Quadratic stuff).

Half way through, some students get up and ask him, "Why did you put that 2 over there?" When he narrated the story to us, our whole class burst into laughter.

My prof would tell us any Asian kid in 3rd grade would know what that meant. While he also saw some true geeks and some brilliantly talented students (I mean the MBA schools and the best researchers are in a different category), he said the average level of the class was really low. So much for rigor.

The fate of America's schools reflects the future of a feminine primary society - a communist approach that serves sentiment, incompetence, no concept of winning and losing, and a total inability to discipline kids (especially boys) -- or let me be blunt, full blown retard.

MormonRedPill · 2018-04-06T01:39:16+00:00

Teacher demographics are largely a function of economics. You have some people on either end of the curve who either are over- or under-qualified to be there, but most teachers are simply qualified. And what are the qualifications? Not genius-level thinking. Not a highly specialized skill set. Not out-of-the-box brainstorming that pushes humanity forward. Not the openness to risk taking, to expose oneself to failure. Not the fortitude to work 12 months of the year. In short, excellence is not demanded, and in general, the people filling the positions reflect this.

You make some good points in your tirade. People often complain about low teacher salaries, but there's no reason to increase compensation if performance remains static. One simple tweak that would alter teacher performance is the threat of termination, just like virtually every other workplace.

I personally don't think we'll see any big changes toward increasing instructor competency in the education environment so long as education is essentially a government monopoly. People follow incentives, and currently the incentive is, "extraordinary performance will be compensated at the same rate as mediocre performance." Universally increasing teacher salaries (like many propose) won't do anything to increase teacher performance unless salary increases are performance-based.

notonlyplace · 2018-04-06T03:58:31+00:00

I understand where your coming from, and you should look out for you and you alone because you don't owe the world anything but believe me when I say this you saved more than few young boys lives.

Having a TRP teacher in the system saves fucking lives, now it's not your job, but realize that those children are trap in the same bullshit and boys growing up hating themselves.

Good teachers like you are rare but they make the fucking system

tincock · 2018-04-06T04:08:01+00:00

Lol my middle school was a hell on earth run by three of the most miserable cunts you could ever meet. The only thing that made it fun was that the leadership instilled a spirit of rebellion in my friends and me. These absolute cunts man the My were so bad hahah

u_dwg · 2018-04-06T05:13:16+00:00

For the most part teachers aren’t solely doing it for the “kids” but love having full benefits and only having to work for 7 months of the year.

Fedor_Gavnyukov · 2018-04-06T07:17:23+00:00

and these motherfuckers want their pay raised. the idiots that taught me 20 years ago were already worthless and careless. there was maybe 2 teachers in the whole school that actually gave a shit. now these "teachers" fill half of instagram and tinder with their drunk ass partying pictures, dumber than a fucking monkey when you do actually talk to them. my friends that are parents have to deal with these people because of their kids. i hear nothing but horror stories about these people that are entrusted to teach children - the future of our society.

father_goose6766 · 2018-04-06T07:24:22+00:00

You really hit the nail on the head when it comes to education.

It's really sad that quality teachers like yourself are hard to come by these days

masteryimain34 · 2018-04-06T07:56:54+00:00

I like the last bit, without leadership mediocrity rises to the top. If you aren’t leading your life, your lesser mediocre lazy self will rise back in place

teeekuuu · 2018-04-06T09:18:41+00:00

My last boss was a complete sheep to the corporate office, no need to say that I work at the corp office now, he is still dokng the same thing.

listenhereboi · 2018-04-06T11:04:23+00:00

Always interesting hearing from other teachers.

I teach science at a super expensive private boys school in Australia and love my job. Teaching can be a nightmare depending on where you work though.

I'm assuming there is an incredible amount of disrespect for teachers in the US? I'm blown away by how many on here are saying stuff like "those who can do, those who can't, teach".

NoChatNoNaCl · 2018-04-06T13:11:25+00:00

This might explain further on what you described, Schools were never designed to teach kids, it is meant to dumb them down, deliberately

The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend with John Taylor Gatto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8

Turtlphant · 2018-04-06T13:33:00+00:00

you can complain here, but us at MGTOW feel ya too! we share more than we think.

AllahHatesFags · 2018-04-06T15:21:45+00:00

Any man who is thinking about getting a career in education right now is insane.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T19:38:47+00:00

Principals have no agency and they do what the school board tells them, and my best educated guess is that the schoolboard has no agency and does what the government tells them to do, and then the government does whatever the corporate lobbyists pay them to do. And corporate lobbyists do whatever the corporations tell them what to do, and corporations do whatever the elite psychopath bankers tell them what to do. Hmmm.. alpha males are being destructive to workplace productivity? Time to turn everyone gay and put em all on meds so we have no workers unions and no resentment towards the psychopath bankers that run the world

Bergatario · 2018-04-06T21:34:16+00:00

Guy ruined a perfectly nice Albert Eistein letterhead and envelope. Isn't the "angry white man" rant getting old? Don't like your job. Quit. I'm sure there's some private school out there that's a better fit is this one is too "liberal".

boom_bostic · 2018-04-07T15:14:52+00:00

I hope you don’t mind me saying what I’m about to say. I don’t mean it to be offensive or anything negative, I just think you’re a man and that we men shouldn’t sugar coat anything (especially between like minded men).

I read your post and it is very true that there’s no real leadership in our schools. What got to me though is the fact that you just quit & gave up because of this problem. It seems like you’re actually displaying some of things that are wrong with schools. You change people and situations not by bitching about it but by being the change that is needed. What I see here is a man who was wore down (impacted) by this toxic environment and quit. It’s sort of like losing your frame with a woman...once you do that...you’re playing their game. To sum it up, you’re a red pilled man & I think you could have maintained your frame a little better is all I’m saying.

McRoddy · 2018-04-06T00:59:36+00:00

Your a boss and I really feel sorry for the kids who will have to deal with some poser bitch teacher. I had an airbrush teacher who really cared for me, she was like a hippie grandma and she encouraged by dope artwork littered with blunts and trippy effects :D

Revolution885 · 2018-04-06T21:11:30+00:00

Just LOL at this. Teaching is a pretty sub human profession in general. Those who cant do, teach. Youre quick to accuse others of being this, but have you looked in the mirror? Youre in an inherently beta profession and you want to make it less beta? Get outta here.

iamnotfromtexas90 · 2018-04-06T12:05:47+00:00

Socialism is ALWAYS a race to the bottom.

We have arrived.

Greendende · 2018-04-06T01:26:57+00:00

There needs to be serious reform centered around principles and gearing people to be ethical , moral people.

Bear-With-Bit · 2018-04-06T03:08:10+00:00

Thanks for sharing. I hope you fucking kill it in your art from here on. I have a sister who is also a teacher with a Ivy League Masters in Ed. The amount of the BS and drama she has to deal with amongst other teachers and administrators is unbelievable. She just wants to teach and help kids for fucks sake.

Power is the option to walk away.

tincock · 2018-04-06T03:46:06+00:00

Is this in private or public education?

AlfredKinsey · 2018-04-06T05:09:22+00:00

Mind blown. You just peeled back the matrix.

If you're interested in teaching in any capacity still, look into tutoring, small classes, private education, etc. I'm making an assumption that you taught art at public school, but this is only based on personal experience and prejudice. I assume you jumped off the boat with another job or at least a reasonable safety net, but this kind of work can often be fit into anything, especially if you are teaching art classes.

I know doctors and other science teachers who earn many tens thousands of dollars to teach a single summer course. I also know private educators who earn in excess of $50/hr with a very nice workload, often working wherever they please.

Chadster113 · 2018-04-06T05:42:27+00:00

Would like to see more of your art work!

goatwithbeergoggles · 2018-04-06T08:12:36+00:00

If the democratic extension of opportunity is made a pretext for lowering standards, democracy is, insofar, incompatible with civilization. - Irving Babbitt

samenrofringslikeLBJ · 2018-04-08T22:31:13+00:00

When Art teachers are in a majority of your persuasion, thats when Western Civ is fixed. Too many people go into the Arts because they are failed everythings who suck at life and are a waste of carbon molecules, then they congregate and achieve real influence. Business has allready been overrun by the same mediocrity, full on retards who spend 99% of their day on office politics and bully out the performers.

djexit · 2018-04-06T11:45:01+00:00

theyre laughing all the way to the bank with all the money they wont have to pay you cause you wont retire with them

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T12:24:35+00:00

The only rational response to the exploitation and sub-professional status teachers are saddled with, along with the massive quantity of mostly bullshit work they have to do, is non-participation. It’s the only thing that will bring about change. Until then it will be the ken of half-witted beneficiaries of cronyism/nepotism who can afford to keep the job because their partners are...aerospace engineers n shit. The “leaders” are pure beta, often tall betas, but pure BBBB’s who would shit their pants and run before ever standing up to a parent on behalf of a teacher or to a female teacher on behalf of a male. Don’t even get me started on Spec. Ed.

I’m done after 20 years. Got out and collect my pension before the dipshit state legislators take it away (It’s coming, see Oklahoma). Occasionally I consider a return to service and look at jobs—mostly offering the same pay as when I got my degree in 90 fuckin 6.

SirKolbath · 2018-04-06T12:59:29+00:00

Oh man. It's like I wrote this. I went through the same realization as a PE teacher a few years ago. After nine years in the classroom teaching everything from computer science to creative writing, I had enough and went back to school to get my master's in counterterrorism studies.

When I coached football, I ran sprints with my team. In PE, I lifted weights with my classes. I tried to do everything with my students so that they knew I was just blazing the trail, never asking them to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do.

My administration changed grades for kids whose parents complained. I was ostracized by my colleagues for enforcing school rules they were supposed to enforce. I went to school board meetings and pointed out the hypocrisy and mismanagement - spending thousands of dollars on televisions for the elementary when the middle school didn't have a functional gymnasium... I was the bad guy. (Later, I realize I violated the 48 Laws)

You made the right choice. But man, every day I think of the kids I walked out on that I might have helped. The only consolation is that a drowning man has to save himself before he can save anyone else.

Good luck.

Ill_Will7 · 2018-04-06T13:00:11+00:00

Nice work on the letterhead. Makes me feel a lot better that people like you exist out there. Your hard to find amongst all the fucking drones. You inspire me

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T13:18:05+00:00

John Taylor Gatto: Against School!

Rian_Stone · 2018-04-06T13:39:59+00:00

You're in for a world of hurt man.

It doesn't get any different. The military has had it for years. Brain drain, promotion to your level of incompetence etc.

I don't think you're going to see this absent anywhere. Best learn how to thrive within that environment

FOldGG · 2018-04-06T13:49:04+00:00

We are doomed. Leadership without vision and balls has us fucked. And, just step up and share; watch what happens. I certainly hope you will find a way to share your gifts that is meaningful to you and those you work with.

Deep_freeze202 · 2018-04-06T13:49:58+00:00

Go find a private school to teach at, you'll make more money and education is the actual goal.

THEMIDLANDMAN · 2018-04-06T14:33:00+00:00

Read.....It's your time your wasting by Frank chalk. Outstanding inside expose on the modern education system.

FrogSkater · 2018-04-06T14:41:54+00:00

Our university, along with many others, offers a PhD in educational leadership. Alas it may well be full of the kind of posers you describe. Public education is pitiful.

justinjj1 · 2018-04-06T15:01:26+00:00

I'm a high school teacher as well, so kudos to you doing something that I've often thought about doing in just walking out. However, it's April, if you would have hung in there until the end of the year you could have resigned and been able to find another teaching job down the line if you wanted. At least here in Texas, it's almost impossible to get hired again after quitting mid-year. Right now you're probably thinking of never going back, but you never know what you might want to do in the future and it's probably not worth burning a bridge over IMO.

-Samg381- · 2018-04-06T15:26:32+00:00

I'm proud of your decision. I recall High School being some of the worst years of my life due to the red tape and scare tactics, and am glad I'll never have to step into that building again. The incompetence in schools is absolutely abysmal, and I can safely say 98/100 teachers I've had the displeasure of being confined with have been underqualified, egotistical, inhumane intimidators. Everything about the average American school drips with sleaze, and something needs to change.

supernaturalsecrets · 2018-04-06T16:38:43+00:00

That school had 1 bad ass teacher and 100 slobs. Now? I feel sad for the kids

drkinferno72 · 2018-04-06T17:36:22+00:00

Go learn a trade, I guarantee the work is too hard to ever see these types ever again

TheDevilsAdvokaat · 2018-04-06T17:50:14+00:00

I wanted to give free English classes after school for special students. Students who actually wanted to do extra classes. I would do it for free. And I would have total control - no naughty time wasters and class wreckers here; I would only teach the students I wanted to. Which means I would be able to teach at a more advanced level.

Then I found out the headmaster planned to charge parents for classes I was going to do for free.

So I cancelled and never tried to do it again.

fakenate1 · 2018-04-06T17:59:45+00:00

Maybe you can go into private schools.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T18:05:00+00:00

For a long time, teaching has been female-dominated with Leftist doctrine being pushed throughout their education to become teachers. It's no surprise that teaching attracts a lot of Socialists and crazy feminists. Guys like /u/notadaddy will be driven out, if they don't self-select out of the career even earlier on.

FrankieGGG · 2018-04-06T18:36:26+00:00

School isnt for smart people, or for dumb people for that matter. It's intended for the vast majority that are incredibly average.

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T19:02:41+00:00

Gotcha, well I hope they gain more traction because I can only foresee violent backlash here in the future. Hope you guys have a turn for the better like we did here in the states. I wish the best of luck to you and your family. Dues Vult

FlambeausGhost · 2018-04-06T19:32:33+00:00

I was position to teach at a university.....until the red-pilling process radically changed my politics. At that point I became persona non grata in my community and will have a hard time defending my dissertation to my PhD committee as a result

corystereo · 2018-04-06T19:59:23+00:00

All I have to say is, posts like this are why I support charter schools and school voucher programs.

As someone who has a relative who teaches in an elementary school and has heard plenty of horror stories about the bureaucracy therein, my kids are absolutely not attending public schools.

The sooner they rot, the better. Go DeVos!

Chaddeus_Rex · 2018-04-06T20:06:36+00:00

and not once did the principal say, “hey bitch, leave notadaddy alone and mind your own business.” The school system as is caves in to these horrible teachers,"

I do not understand this. Is the Principle a pussy that he can't tell them to piss off? Is it really that hard? Its one of the causes of school shooting tbh, administrators not being able to stand up for themselves and enforce their boundaries. Obviously they cannot pass this onto the kids and then the kids do not know what to do when they get bullied, have shitty self confidence and end up shooting schools.

Also, who's idiotic idea was it to allow young girls out of university to teach kids? What the fuck do they know about life? I do not care what degree they have, it doesn't mean shit. I have long been a proponent of having community elders teach kids - instead of having old people languishing after retirement, bring them into the schools, have them teach the kids and pass on their knowledge. Put them through some courses so that they can teach things like the sciences, this will keep them motivated to live and will keep them socializing and will keep their brains active. It will solve many of the problems we currently have with older people as well.

Or bring in some vets, give them jobs and make them valued members of society.

Or just adopt the Chinese education system. Cowardly fucking minsters and administrators.

karmayogi234 · 2018-04-06T20:23:30+00:00

You are actually doing your job with a sense of excellence... Good on you for quitting. I admire your integrity. This post is awesome.

redlittleboot · 2018-04-06T20:55:10+00:00

If you had no back up job, the only one who lost in this situation is you.

ASQC · 2018-04-06T21:13:28+00:00

And then it hit me: I should become Heisenberg

ExistentialDump · 2018-04-06T22:00:57+00:00

precisely the reason i'll be teaching overseas and avoiding the hell that is Western teaching.

mikesteane · 2018-04-06T22:45:37+00:00

EDUCATION IS FUCKED BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP No, it is doing exactly what it was set up to do: impede learning. Read John Tayolor Gatto's Underground History of American Education for more information.

WholesomeAwesome · 2018-04-07T01:42:50+00:00

real education is in the freemarket. Not in the halls of the state.

BluepillProfessor · 2018-04-07T02:39:50+00:00

I still don't get why you couldn't STFU and keep your head down. The vile cunt is a poser, most of them are posers and the system is rotten to the core.

But none of that has anything to do with you having a good job with great benefits for you that you like.

You let a nasty feminist throw you out of your job. It is like a wife 'forcing' her husband to sleep on the couch. Fuck that shit. Never leave your bed or your home, and I have to think we could add 'your job' to that list. Never leave your job just because a woman is making waves. Stand and fight don't quit.

Gozsayin · 2018-04-07T03:44:56+00:00

It's crazy how when we finally get an alpha guy in the school system they are the outliners, and often rub up against the "poser" already there. We need teacher like you but if it's time to move on it's time

Zenitco · 2018-04-07T12:28:20+00:00

Seems like most PE teachers are terrible. Seems like they only care about their sports teams instead of the entire student body.

bigbodybuilderr · 2018-04-07T23:24:01+00:00

Should I put my future sons in private schools?

[deleted] · 2018-04-07T23:48:28+00:00

You need to play the game get to the top and THEN make the changes. Until then you should've bit your time. As for that old hag you could've made her life hell until she quit and for the principal?? Well I'm not going to teach you the dark triads. Instead you quit a great job with ample opportunity to make changes later on. I did it too man but I was much younger than you and it was some shitty call me center job

Luckyluke23 · 2018-04-08T04:59:59+00:00

yeah i know a guy who became a teacher to help the kids... then he fell out of favor with it.

sucks man he is good at it too

PurplePheonicks · 2018-04-09T22:58:43+00:00

Honestly I hope when I have kids I make enough money to homeschool them. Every teacher I've ever had has scaled from terrible to plain mediocre, spare a few actually good ones.

notadaddy · 2018-04-06T02:35:42+00:00

is there a way for me to see some your art ?

EvolvedA · 2018-04-06T11:20:35+00:00

Great rant about a system that has seen better times but what is your consequence? You quit your job? Really? You demand more responsibility and better leadership and your consequence is to throw it all away, to do the exact opposite of what you say that is needed here and leave the place for them? Do you have some backbone at all? You quit a job that you loved and that you were paid for well for what exact reason now?

And with that drawing you really showed them, that will teach them a lesson!

Wow, red pill lessons and role models all over the place here... /s

[deleted] · 2018-04-06T14:09:16+00:00

EDUCATION IS FUCKED BECAUSE YOU LEFT THE SCHOOL, COULD HAVE GROWN SOME BALLS AND TOOK IT IN YOUR PRIDE TO TO DO THE DAMN BEST BUT NO YOU CLOCKED OUT.

Scandinavianredpill · 2018-04-07T05:44:38+00:00

Good luck finding another well paying job as an artist. This will be the worst decision of your life.

Here is a redpill for you: work isn't always rewarding, you some times just do it as.. you know... your fucking job. Doesn't mean you have to hate it, but this shit happens everywhere in some shape or form. Now what if you own your own business? Well after it has become successful you make the rules, but you will be working far more than you are doing currently and it's a big IF.

ieatsoggytoast · 2018-04-06T01:42:19+00:00

I loved your piece of art. As a junior in high school who got a 1400 on the SAT and felt like I haven’t been taught anything I relate all to well to your post.

WhyStayInSchool · 2018-04-06T16:08:00+00:00

Principals today are in the business of pleaseing everybody, the gays, the non-English speaking kids, the free lunches that end up in the trash

yeah god damn those people who want the human and civil rights protected!

"the gays?" are you serious man?

jinglebells89 · 2018-04-06T17:25:38+00:00

Can relate to this. I had a job that I got a promotion at. I beat out this girl who was a feminist, liberal lesbian. She made a big deal out of it and got me fired for getting people to say I was making sexist comments. The only time in my life I ever really seriously pondered the pros and cons of spending the rest of my life in jail over taking that b*tch out.

Thankfully, I didn't.

Dmva100 · 2018-04-06T09:33:28+00:00

Most teachers, especially women, are scum of the earth. Thats why I laugh at school shootings.

Every once in a while a white knight man's up to his sacrificial duty to the chiilldrennn. Like that coach.

Losers

Title	I quit my job teaching yesterday. Without leadership or integrity, mediocrity rises to the top.
Author	notadaddy
Upvotes	863
Comments	302
Date	06 April 2018 12:00 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	TheRedPill
Link	https://theredarchive.com/post/49547
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/8a4w2q/i_quit_my_job_teaching_yesterday_without/