I am a history teacher in one of the most liberal places in the world. Every single bureaucrat in the public school system wants to demean, humiliate, and emasculate boys. The evidence re. the under performance of boys in schools has been compiled and spoken about for ages; however, the curriculum is continually feminized, as are most of the extra curricular activities.
I have seen from the inside the ugly nature of female teachers' disdain for energetic male students. Always complaining and overdisciplining them simply because they are rambunctious. When these very same boys behave for me, my female colleagues always mutter, 'oh it is because you are a male teacher!'. No bitch, it is because I am competent, and I actually encourage them to compete in gym class. A few days ago some boys approached me from another class and asked if I could ref their soccer game. I, of course, accepted; however, a few of the boys started saying that they are not allowed to head the ball. I asked them why? As it is an integral part of the game, and they said their teacher (this crazy, lazy, always on her computer during instructional time feminist that always whines about the pay gap) said that it could lead to concussions. I was, of course, surprised and horrified at this revelation. I showed them a proper heading technique, told them to tell their teacher how ridiculous she was being, and reffed the game. This took me back to high school, when a female teacher crushed my hopes and dreams about learning the nitty gritty details of World Wars I and 2 by focusing an inordinate amount of time on the 'home front', you know, when the women were home making munitions, while their men died in horrible conditions somewhere.
I have heard female administrators slam boys for normal behaviour, some going as far as to call them 'sexual predators'. I felt bad for one kid in particular. He was showered with texts and photos from one particular female student, ended up doing some 'inappropriate' things in the boys change room, and then he was subsequently blamed and destroyed. Later evidence proved this kid did nothing wrong, but he was still known as a 'groomer'. There were absolutely zero repercussions for the girl, after wasting school and police services.
I know the mantra here is 'don't get married'; however, if you have a son or multiple sons, avoid the public school system like the plague. If only I could go into the details of how crooked and degenerate leftist the union truly is.
I'm not disagreeing with a single thing you said here; however the real problem is that fathers don't teach their boys how to become men. If you red pill your son, but teach him how to keep his mouth shut, teach discipline and hard work, you can exploit the system hardcore together and he'll be fucking the cheerleader squad behind the bleachers.
As a father, you're in a war against the blue pill system. My father is old school RP (happy wife happy life but red in ideology) so naturally I argued him about feminism etc. being raised in a BP indoctrination factory. If he understood and broke down for me what was actually going on everyday at school, I never would have bought into that shit. He just didn't fully understand what was happening. We do.
Go on hunting and fishing trips together. Build shit. Coach his sports. Talk about pussy. Set a good example, as you're the model for his masculinity. Sons become their fathers.
From a guy that has had to teach himself everything (from house repairs, to auto-work, to hunting, to fishing etc.) who never got these moments, please make time for them, neither of you will regret it.
Couldn’t agree more. Never knew my father. Raised by mom and grandma. Needless to say, I had a lot to learn the hard way about women, because everything I’d been taught was bullshit. It meant a lot of broken hearts and confused angry outbursts as a teenager, most of which likely could have been avoided.
Just like you I had to teach myself literally all I know, and judging by the compliments I get, I’m a decently handy guy, but fuck me if it wouldn’t have been easier to been taught this stuff while growing up, as opposed to spending my teens to late 20s just learning how to be a man, the hard way.
My dad is somewhat RP but he was also a coward when me and my brother was growing up.
They got divorced when I was 12 and my brother must have been 8 but I don't remember my father being much involved in raising us before that either.
After the divorce I saw my dad every other weekend and it would be the same shit every time. I was lazy and had absolutely no drive for anything in life and he hated it.
But when you only see your father every 14 days and all he can do is verbally attack you, your mother and the teachers for me being lazy, it doesn't work! I hated going to my fathers place because he would just bitch about all the things I was being taught every day.
Now I'm 33 and have had struggles most of my life with finding motivation for anything. At 27-28 I started lifting, reading TRP and got my masters degree in computer science. Now I see much of what he tried to tell me back then was true but it was communicated the wrong way, by a mostly absent guy I didn't have much respect for.
Please don't be like my dad.
This is exactly my life growing up. My parents never divorced, but my biological father left my mother before I was born, and I only met him twice in my life during my teenage years since he lives in Rhode Island, and we live in San Diego, CA. My mother married a different guy that became my step-dad and didn't really raise me either as he was active duty Navy and would frequently be deployed on tours, and probably didn't know how to create a bond with me or didn't want to since I'm not his kid. When he was home, I used to hate him because he would only berate me and favor my siblings (his kids), while downplaying my own successes. He was (and still is) blue pill to the extreme, defeated in his marriage and my mother runs the show, she changed from a loving mother to a crazy, mentally and emotionally abusive person. My entire life has revolved around their arguments and a dysfunctional family dynamic. I'm turning 30 this year, and found the red pill only two years ago. All the time before this was just as described by others in this thread, blue pill, raised by my mother and grandmothers, lied to about women (or misinformed by my stepdad's own lack of red pill knowledge and beta tendencies in his marriage) hard-working but hard to motivate and plagued by depression and suicidal ideation my entire adult life. I sought out a therapist that opened my eyes to a lot of my ailments and what they stem from, the majority being my traumatic childhood and lack of a strong male role model. It has allowed me to absorb more of the red pill's truths, but still has left me not wanting to have a child yet. I feel like I wasted my 20s and have been teaching myself how to become a red pill man, something neither of my fathers did. Please spend time bonding with your sons, the small things you do with them now will have exponential effects later in both of your lives. I remember when I was a kid wishing for an older brother or an older role model that I could ask questions of and learn from, but I ended up looking in the wrong places and led a bad life growing up. I sense my early life tainted by crime, gangs and failures in school is not isolated to my own life's experience, it seems most others likely do not have what I desperately needed, a good father.
Hey, your 20s may not have gone as you like but you are on the proper path now and still have LOTS of time to enjoy life. It is never too late! Your father probably didn't have the right role model either as the blue pill runs deep. Mine also was/is a total blue pill pussy so I feel your pain.
The important thing is where you are NOW, and what you are going to do with the gift that TRP has brought you.
Even though I know many of my problems stem from the way my mother treated me, I can't say bad word about her. She is the most loving, caring and generous person I have ever met but after my parents got divorced, she felt so bad about the situation that she would try to make up for it by doing everything for me.
I had zero responsibilities for the remainder of the time I lived at home. She cooked, she cleaned, drove me anywhere anytime, wrote job applications for me, she would serve me breakfast in bed every day for years, she did EVERYTHING for me.
Even when I moved out at 18, she would help me out financially, come by with food and pick up dirty laundry etc. This went on until I was around 27 and I finally said stop.
Needless to say, none of this helped me become a man. I had to figure that out by myself.
I was more or less depressed from start teenage years up until I started lifting. I smoked weed every day and I felt absolutely no purpose in this world. I was just playing WOW 16 hours a day while smoking.
I knew I was lazy and I knew I was wrong for being that way but it seemed impossible that things could ever be any different.
Luckily, I would say, I've always had an extreme sex drive and I had a pretty face, so I always had a girlfriend throughout the years. It was the constant urge to fuck every woman I saw that drove me to change, because I wasn't getting the amount of women that I wanted at that point. I spent 10+ hating chads for fucking the women I secretly wanted but didn't dare tell anyone. It took me forever but at some point I figured out that chad wasn't in the wrong, I was, so I had to change.
I also have done okay with women according to red pill standards, and I was able to maintain an image of alpha in attracting them and in the first year or so of a relationship, but my own undiagnosed issues at the time and shit tests from them would always cause me to become beta and supplicate to them, likely because of the blue pill ideology about women, men and relationships that plagues all of us. Encountering an alpha widow is what led me to the red pill and this sub, and my development as a red pill man. So many red pill truths ring true in my memory of past girlfriends and my current LTR that it's baffling how the red pill truths were not a part of my life before. I am so appreciative of this sub and the lessons of developing yourself as a man vs the PUA world focused on getting women, which I was exposed to a few years ago by Mystery's book. Thanks for sharing your story and allowing me to share mine, Donovan Sharpe talks about feeling isolated as a result of the red pill because most men reject the red pill and it's tough to find brothers that you can count on. At least we have this figurative digital brotherhood to rely on.
That makes you the red headed step child
You need to be more sympathetic to your father's plight. Just because a man is a father doesn't mean he knows everything. He did try to teach you, but you needed to reach out as well from your end. There is no RP blueprint on how to be divorced dad with minimal custody. Dad's are tough-love, while mom's are soft love for the most part.
This hits close to home. I had to teach myself much of that too, but the hardest thing for me to cope with was auto repair. My father was a car guy but he never once taught me any of it. "Focus on school," he would always say. I eventually learned basic auto repair on Humvees in the service and then learned more from buddies.
My father wasn't terribly masculine, but the few things he knew he kept behind closed doors. He raised my sister and I the same way.
Broke my heart as an adult.
Can't stress this enough. At 18 I only wish my dad was more alpha and not a pussy. I feel I am more of a man than my own father, it's all about mindset and value. I know exactly what not to do with my son or daughter. No pussy cats inside my dog house.
That's why my 5 nephews have an Uncle Vasya.
My sisters all married high-functioning betas, my nephews largely figured out that when they needed a "real" solution to a problem, one that actually works, then it's time to call their uncle. /FLEX
How would a dad talk about pussy to his son, or how could I at 21 start to eventually create the kind of bond where that's possible with him? We're pretty close but not nearly that close, I want to be though but he seems awkward and uncomfortable most of the time when we're talking
You need to change the way you speak to him, then. If he feels awkward around you, you're doing something wrong. Are you always approaching him as an adversary? Try to put yourself in his shoes and view him as your friend.
His father may just be an awkward guy, very introvert. I can understand, i'm a new dad and very introverted but i will be open and honest with my son (he's 7 months). My dad was only 20 when he had me, pretty much still a teen. He is still immature but tired now, i feel like i'm more of an adult but that could be from the military. I just know ill be better then he was.
My son is 12. I started really paying attention to this sub last year, and it completely changed the way I spoke to my boy. Ironically, it made me much gentler with him. I was always scolding him before, trying to make him tough, because I thought that was what he needed. This sub helped me realize that I was actually just giving him shit for things that were out of his control. I gently advise him now, and I give him examples from my own life. I patiently explain everything to him. I make sure he understands, and I am not condescending when I do it. I praise him when he does well, and I politely tell him what I expect of him and what I want for him. Redpill improved our relationship tremendously. I didn't even realize what a cunt I was being to the kid, before.
Not a dad, but I have a brother who's 15 years younger than me. At one point I started talking with him about this stuff, because our father never did. A good way to get the ball rolling is to get him to start chatting with you about his classmates - boys and girls. Then move to the girls. Get him to really talk with you. Pass ZERO judgment on him. Be proud of him. And also, the important bit, make him question his assumptions about girls. Give him ideas about abundance, like, if he knew 10x more girls, he could find 10x girls that he likes! Stuff like that.
One of you would have to make the first step. Just like when being with women, if you act like a politically correct bluepilled male sexuality apologist he may not feel like discussing such things with you.
Be a man, don't be afraid.
Start by considering what it is you want to talk about. Do you want to graphically discuss women’s reproductive parts with your dad? Compare your impressions of their mammary glands and buttocks? Or do you want to talk with your dad about how to be confident in your everyday interactions with women? Do you want him to help you decode how to be a high quality man women are attracted to? Or do you just want to get some things off your chest - how you feel about a girl, what sexual performance questions you’re wondering about?
Formulate a topic and consider his point of view. Then approach him when you two are doing something together. Best to do it when you’re walking somewhere. Uncomfortable conversations are easier to broach when you’re not looking AT each other, but still facing in the same direction.
That last sentence is profoundly true.
Too right. I grew up in one of the most liberal cities and if it wasn’t for my dad teaching me hunting, fishing, boxing and the art of not giving a fuck I would probably be fucked.
Raise your children right and screw anybody else.
Thanks for this. I have a toddler and am already watching and talking to people in my local school district. Due to my work schedule I won't be dealing with the PTA much, but I plan on taking the kid and doing as much old school man shit as possible.
My father wasn't around much, but I had two amazing grandfather's on both sides of the family that we're pure old school alpha male and lead by example.
I hope to do the same for my kid.
PTA, run the PTA and control the purse. At our school district, a few fathers and mothers (many have sons) contribute most of the funds and control how they are disbursed.
Married well-to-do suburban women, particularly, want preferential treatment for their oh-so-precious sons and are disgusted by the thought of raising a weak fucktard soyboi. They know that strong, red blooded, masculine, well educated Men keep the gravy train going.
The results:
"Gender Equity March", defunded, never happened.
"Social studies: The Future is Female", teacher removed immediately at first offense for politicizing the classroom.
"Dating and Consent", defunded and stopped through overwhelming majority voting.
Advanced/Gifted Program?, yes, students chosen through quantitative testing, not "feelz" or "quotas". Guess what? 70% boys.
Activities actually funded: Foreign Languages, La Cross, Football, Baseball and yes, Soccer. Extracurricular STEM from 2nd grade up.
Yes, it is hard and exhausting. You need to be present and resisting this SJW shit at every turn. But that is the price you pay for the privilege of raising a Man, not a weak feminized gender fluid tranny.
Sounds like there truly is some hope left. Feels like we found humans in a zombie apocalypse.
There’s more than one world out there. If you base your worldview from the extreme anecdotes from this sub, you’ll get a warped perspective.
It’s fucked up don’t get me wrong. It’s not all fucked up everywhere. Course my perspective also comes from a conservative midwest upbringing.
"Conservative Midwest upbringing" thank the gods for this. I too am a Midwest man, that lily footed leftism is a joke around here. Only ugly women and docile thin wrist men buy into the leftist propaganda. I feel for any of us trapped in a mostly sjw community, I suggest they learn a trade and move to the flyover states.
I live in SJW-central San Francisco, and this simply isn't true. There's plenty of attractive people of both genders who buy into the leftist propaganda right up until the moment it negatively impacts them.
"Yay inclusion!" they shout, until it's time for a promotion and there's only one slot to fill, then quotas get scary.
"Yay poly dating" says the attractive woman, until she finds a man high value and status enough that she suddenly wants to lock him down (or at least figures out how she can compromise to keep the relationship status exclusive if not the sex.)
But plenty of men, even good looking tall fit men, will profess the gospel of feminism and mean it, as long as it isn't used as a hammer against them.
(At least until their first divorce)
Translation: When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
They arent the majority, just the loudest I promise. Also lots of money.
Out of curiosity, I just looked up my local PTA ... holy fuck.
There are 15 seats on the council. 14 adults and 1 student representative.
Guess what, all 14 adults are white female. No men. No People of Color. No nothing. Just white feminist female.
Horrifying. Too bad I have to work two jobs just to make ends meet ... otherwise, I may have found a new course of action to focus on. Get on the PTA and re-introduce boy-friendly ideas to the school system.
You should make work about this overrepresentation of white feminists. Especially cover the no People of Coior angle (although I hate that phrase, isn't white a color?). Make them feel guilty about that, after all they wouldn't be racist, right? Then find male friends who do have extra time and get them to run for the PTA.
He should try find some red-pilled black dudes to get on the PTA.
Technically white is all colors combined and black is the absence of color (absence of light) but hey it's not like anyone coining these politically correct terms was actually scientifically literate
The truth is to just plain 'get involved' on an individual level- if you have the time! All it takes for evil to triumph is for blue pilled, socialised, nice guys to do nothing. Like you say, just get in there and make it hard for the idiots and you also set a good example at the same time. Take responsibility for your own kids and feel free to take other kids out too, start groups, demonstrate leadership etc...
Oh nice. Nice to see some sanity.
Keep up the good work!
I'm guessing you are not in the same state as OP.
Doesn’t the school board have the real control? And of course the DOE and federal courts.
The biggest predictor of male failure is to have an absent or weak father. I prefer to spend time with my son in masculine pursuits when I have time (and I have loads these days): hunting, fishing, repairing old cars, working the dairy farm, long road trips and in the company of his uncles and grandfather (all of us being ex-military)
It gives me an opportunity to correct any bullshit that he might have been exposed to at school. The thing is I find that as long as he knows he can speak to me any time about anything he will clarify any contradictions between what he learns at home and what he learns at school.
My options have been parochial school, public school, private school or home school. Unfotunately, I can't homeschool effectively since I do have to be away sometimes and also I want the kid to know what is out there (the good and the bad).
I think your sons will all touch dogshit i.e. encounter a feminized cucked society. Whether they do it at school or later in the workplace it will happen. Maybe developing their awareness of what is happening and how to resist it is better than not exposing them to it.
Any tips for how to effeciently draw-out the dysfunction so it can be addressed, since the school has him for most the day and you only have only part of evenings and a part of weekends.
I wish I could ask for a minute by minute readout broken out by topic. Instead you're just trying to assess and correct broken items in a pitch dark room. Close your eyes, stand up and feel around, and find me the nearest broken item. Unless you know exactly where it is beforehand, you can't know where it is.
You can do a brute force sample search and feel around and go item by item. But the problem is the data gets crammed into their brain without your consent, without the kids consent. And the kid doesn't know to bring it up. You have to ask for it. Maybe I can attach a Gopro to him with an all day battery and a 512GB stick of ram to replay.
Hey, I am not sure if I should ask this here or if I will evoke a response, but I dont have much to lose. Here goes; I am 18, am worrried about myself and my brother (12). We have an absent father who is not a good role model or there for us in any capacity other than just providing for us financially. At home and at school we are dominated by female voices. Uhm, I am at crossroads with my education and feel like I am setting a bad example for my brother in terms of my hardwork or masculinity, what ever have you. I am about to move away or will soon for university but dont want to leave my brother as if it does mean anything I want to provide a remotely "masculine" rolemodel even though I am not in any form there yet. I am confused to tell you frankly. I am hitting gym, doing nofap (had an addiction, I think my bro is as well but dont know how to address it to him) and am trying to focus on my work as well as this. I have been reading redpill for about 1 year and need some help to implement it. If you could provide some, I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks in advance from a reader in the UK.
Hey. That is a pretty shitty situation to be in. Here is what I would do. The first thing is to find a strong male role model/ mentor. I know this is pretty hard to do but is there a strong male figure in your family (extended) or in the community? As Nietzsche said "When one has not had a good father, one must create one."
If you throw yourself into activities such as a martial arts, the local fraternal order (Kiwanis, Lions Club, Knights of Colombus, Knights of Pythias, Rotary...whatever) or a local outdoors group you will find one. In fact I think that boys who grow up without a father absolutely NEED to join a Fraternal Order. Masculinity is best seen in action.
As for your brother, he is still young enough to believe that you are God himself. So what you should do is create a structure for both of you gradually. That is things that you do consistently every day from the moment you wake up. He will join in and when he joins you can start slowly creating a series of implied expectations, obligations and commitments for him.
How I trained my son was making sure there were things planned from the moment he wakes up. He would want to join as they were fun: building a WW2 plane kit/ restoring an old landrover/ setting up train sets/ badminton etc. When he joined and got hooked then I established things he must do before we can start: make his bed, have breakfast, empty the sink, study etc etc.
His own small private successes in the day i.e. accomplishing small tasks got him hooked and now he does these things by himself. Because it is still dopamine. Jerking off gets you dopamine but the activity is useless. Looking at a deck you have built to perfection gives you dopamine too and is useful.
So develop a structure for your brother. Not by dictating but by showing. Develop a raft of fun and non-passive hobbies, hook him in then start molding him that way.
Thank you a lot. You will not understand what this means to me, I will run with this like the wind (if that doesnt sound to cheesy haha). Have a great day and God bless.
I rarely save comments, but I saved yours for future reference.
The female teachers in my school, who were the vast majority, fawned over the academic progress of the girls while shaming the boys. As a result, the girls in my grade were rude, stuck-up, and condescending for as long as I could remember, therefore I did not talk to them and did not learn how to communicate with girls. So I ignored them. One girl, who was nice but kind of a slut (who the other girls didn't like, of course) had a huge crush on me but I had no idea how to reciprocate so nothing happened with her even when she tied my tie, played footsie with me, showed me her boobs, and sat on my lap. Damn...if someone just could have explained back then. But my dad didn't know what was going on and was too absorbed in brooding about his shitty life, and like a good boy I didn't complain, and the other boys didn't know a whole lot better. The only two male teachers I had were old and tired.
My schooling was one of many factors in my history of poor communication with women. The good news is, you can turn it around any time once you are aware of the bullshit!
I sometimes wish I knew what I know now when I was in school. Instead of the socially awkward, doesnt talk to girls, guy, I would have been at least kinda normal.
Don't send your daughter to public school, unless you want her to be a whore.
Yes, send her to a private girls school so she can become a lesbian or spend her days becoming a hyper catty beyotch that drops to her knees on the slightest whiff of testosterone.
We used to call the nearest catholic girls school the "Santa sluts" for a reason.
Personally, my preference is for homeschooling. As a former public school teacher, it is obvious to me that the government simply cannot do anything right. We're depending on the same government that cannot install a road sign on time and on budget to educate our children, male and female.
By contrast, some of the best human beings of both genders I have met in my life were homeschooled.
Not to mention, and this is the most important point, it's your responsibility to raise your kids. If you're letting a public school teacher do it, you are a fuck-up and should not have children.
As a former exchange student in the US, and living with a family who did the homeschool thing while I went to a highschool, let me tell you that it is the worst brainwash I have ever seen. Obviously, if your family provides a TRP education while being at home that's fine.
However, if your parents provide a full blue pill experience and add extreme religious beliefs, then you are done. I really feel sad for my host brother. Maybe he will awake some day
As a public school teacher, I can tell you every single home school kid I ever had was way, way, way low. Talking reading comprehension several grades below and terrible math skills.
There’s a ton wrong with the education system, but home schooling is quite the answer. It can work with parents who are hiring outside certified teachers, or those that know what their doing themselves.
The everyday bloke doesn’t.
Fuck that noise. I am exiting the public school system after 20-plus years, and you can shove that "certified, credentialed" bullshit. The homeschoolers you are describing are the ones whose parents pulled them out because they got tired of truancy officers coming to their houses because they couldn't be bothered to get their asses out of bed and take the kids to school. Homeschooling done right does not require government endorsement, nor does it require specialized degrees. It requires parents who give a fuck and will do the hard, consistent work of doing it well.
Yeah disagree with a lot of that. My home school kids were not truant- I assure you based on the demographics I work in
I am, unfortunately, leaving the profession due to financial reasons and an insane job offer that I cannot turn down. But I could tell you it wasn’t nearly as bad as you or the OP has posted in my experience here.
The great thing about homeschooling is that kids can pursue what they want to. If you're in public school and like math but hate everything else, you're miserable for 4/5 of the day at least.
If you're homeschooled, your parent can teach you math for 90% of the day and then go over the other material quickly.
School was at least 80% busy work for me before 9 the grade. Homeschooling can get rid of the busy work and concentrate on the material the child is actually interested in.
Have to disagree. Also a public teacher, and the difference in maturity and ability between the homeschoolers I know vs. the majority of the kids I see is staggering. None of the homeschool parents are teachers, but they've done a fine job.
Eh.
https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/
The average public school student is below on reading and math.
The most brilliant people I know were homeschooled.
Bullshit. I assure you that you are no more skilled at content delivery or lesson scaffolding than any parent merely because you polished a seat long enough to get a degree in the subject. I used literally nothing from my teaching certification program in the classroom.
Since the 1970s when the Department of Education was created, education spending has quadrupled. Test scores and graduate literacy rates have fallen at about 0.8% per year (This information is all on their website, free for you to peruse, although the charts are of course presented to make it appear they are doing a stellar job.)
I understand that you want to keep your employment, but your most significant error is in thinking that the kids somehow belong to you. They do not. They belong to the parents and the parents are the ones responsible for their education.
In my time as a public school teacher and after, I have not seen a single - not even one - homeschooled student who was not better educated and an overall better quality person than their peers. That includes four who graduated from college by age 18, two who started their own businesses, and another two who went into the military and local civilian search and rescue.
I worked with a self defense school that partnered with homeschool programs in North Carolina, and I met dozens of these students. None were poorly educated. That is a myth the NEA has been perpetuating for decades. The NEA pushes standardized testing. Their teachers spend their time teaching the test, not the material. When homeschoolers take the test, they score lower than public education kids and the NEA pushes lobbyists to declare that homeschool kids are not being educated properly.
I believe nothing of what you said.
Everyone keeps saying homeschooling but who does the homeschooling?
I have to work, and the mother can't teach the way a man can. That's if she's even remotely intelligent or dedicated enough to spend hours a day when she'd rather bake cakes and do housework.
In most cases the mother does the main lessons in the three Rs and dad teaches the manhood after hours. One set of four boys I know with a strongly red pilled dad who works about 55 hours a week has chores every night they do when dad comes home. This is where dad instills those virtues of courage, work ethic, and discipline. This is also where they get taught to work with tools. (Dad is a software engineer by day, gunsmith, mechanical engineer, and professional knife maker at night.)
Your wife can be trusted to deliver lessons of math and spelling. You do the rest. It worked that way for centuries.
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I just caught a strong whiff of soy. Don't be soy or use the language reserved for soy. Feminists have the right idea - control the language and you control the narrative. Let the narrative be of strength, not Soy.
I don't give a shit what you think you caught a whiff of. I will use whatever language I choose. I specifically chose that phrase because those kids were good people, unlike the standard little turds of generation tide pod being shat out upon an unsuspecting society.
"Whaaa how dare you tell me what to do!!!11!".
Soy confirmed.
or a condescending man-hating cunt.
Where should you send your kids?
The one word answer is homeschooling.
Private and religious schools can be good, but you have to do your research.
Spoken like a true Ayrab Muslim!
White Sharia Meow!
So you want kids to go to private school rather than public to keep them from having ideals forced on them?
Thats like hopping into the river because its raining and you don't want to get wet.
Edit: source - Private schooled from preschool to highschool
This right here. The answer to building strong young men isn’t to shield them from a public education by putting them in an expensive, sub-standard, science-free, for-profit, Jesus school.
I’d say the answer is more involvement with the teachers. Societal norms ARE becoming bull shit, but change the system from within.
Jesuit schools are good when it comes to science, not to mention they tend to heavily emphasize sports. If I had a kid today that's where he would go.
I said “Jesus”, not “Jesuit”. I think Jesuits are some of the most forward thinking agnostics there are, and I’m a big fan!
Sent my kid to a Jesuit school. Worked out pretty well.
I didn’t say “Jesuit”! Mother father, cheese and rice!
Except Jesuits aren't agnostics?
Lol I’ve never had the privilege of attending a private Jesuit school, but they definitely are not “science free” or substandard. You have to remember that Catholic school is different from a school run by jesuits and providing a traditional Jesuit education which has been pretty much the pinnacle of being learned in the Western world since the enlightenment. It probably doesn’t hold that distinction anymore, but a Jesuit education is still regarded as solid in part because they emphasize STEM.
That said, I do agree with you, sticking your kid in any private school, no matter how good, isn’t a guarantee of anything. Only a strong father figure can teach a boy values and to stand steadfast by them and not swallow leftist cool-aid or give into peer pressure to engage in vice or anything like that. I’m reminded of the Rudyard Kipling Poem: “If you can keep your head while all those around you are losing theirs and blaming it on you- then you shall be a man, my son.”
Thats not how the poem goes...I have it memorized. The couplet is:
"If you can keep your head when all about you, are losing theirs and blaming it on you. If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you and make allowance for their doubting too..."
What?
Private schools are (on average) MUCH better than public ones. And they teach science in them.
Where are you getting such ridicilious claims?
My cousin’s worthless Biola degree and his complete lack of a basic science foundation is but one subjective example.
The fact that you can’t seem to spell is another subjective example.
Better to be religious than a soyboy.
I went to Catholic school for it all. 75% of people who make it all the way through that are either atheist, agnostic, or apathetic.
My buddy had calluses on his knees from having to pray so much. Now hes a heroin addict.
I'm not an expert but I've watched a lot of movies. Do you suspect that he may have been abused? Spotlight was a heck of a film.
Must been a school for Islam. Im calling BS on this comment.
You don't get calluses on your knees from praying the Islamic way. I call BS on this comment.
And?
So catholic school dosen't teach you to be religious.
Most people would see that as a plus, not a negative.
Not now mate. My wife teaches at Catholic school. The children recently filled out a worksheet comparing aboriginal society (pre colonisation) to catholic society. The children all degraded catholic society in favour of the utopian australian aboriginals. This exercise was conducted in the chapel.
The hallmark of feminist society--glorifying laziness expecting industriousness from others.
Guess which one wins wars.
Probably no mention of the aboriginals never developing a written language or implementation of the wheel, despite having tens of thousands of years to do so.
There is a difference between being religious and being Christian. If you are religious then you can be an adherent of masculine faiths like Islam or Paganism. Or you can be a Christcuck. I dunno whats worse,, being a Christcuck or soy.
Better to avoid the creationists and the antifas.
Went to a well-respected semi-private school (partially funded by the state). No, it doesn't stop you from becoming blue-pilled...
Really depends on the school. There are some sects that are pretty redpilled.
Very good point.
Homeschool is the way to go if you have a bitch with a good enough head on her to manage it.
Please don't homeschool your kids.
I'm in high school currently and every single homeschooled kid that is now in high school are the most anti-social spergs I know.
It's easy to socialize your kids if they are homeschooled, you just have to make time for it like anything. I was homeschooled but I participated in school sports with the public school kids from the local high school, and there were meetups all the time with other groups of homeschooled kids. I also went on lots of field trips and visited tons of museums. You're doing it wrong if your kid turns out to be a sperg.
I’m sure there’s always exceptions but I’m saying that the baseline for homeschooling are the same parents that shove phones in their kids faces to get them out of their hair.
I’m not saying it’s not possible, it’s a better education, but usually that isn’t the case.
The schools are filled with spergs even without homeschooled kids there so I fail to see your point.
That's becasue the parents are doing it wrong.
Homeschooling works if the parents aren't lazy and actually give a shit about their kids education.
Private school is no different than public school. Other than the fact that you get to pay out of your pocket for the leftist indoctrination your kid gets rather than getting it for free.
I'm interested in what you think properly homeschooling kids would be? I'm wrestling with the idea of having kids over the next few years and I'd definitely want to home school, however I wouldn't want to make them socially retarded.
Although I disagree with homeschooling, if you want to see how its done properly look no further than European Aristocrats after the renaissance. They would bring in the most learned tutors from a few disciplines: rhetoric, politics, mathematics (this included the sciences as well), and sport. These were the subjects necessary to prepare the aristocrats to rule. If you wish to homeschool your kids one needs to follow this model, with a heavy influence on science.
Don't do it alone. Most communities will have groups that help each other and get the kids together.
I know one that sent their son to the USAF academy two years ago. Another friend is sending a daughter to a top 10 school on a full ride scholarship. The only time I see failures is when a) the kid was fucked up in the first place and disruptive in school (keep guns away from these houses), b) weird religious families or c) batshit insane hippy types that just want to check out of society completely. The fucked up thing is these sorts of people have plenty of spergie/dangerous kids in public school too.
I’m saying from experience to put your kid through public for the social aspect but teach them education is extremely left.
I disagree.
Homeschooling of today isn't the homeschool of yesteryear. There are networks of homeschooling families and with the internet, social connections are virtually limitless. If you have a family that actually puts forth effort, the social aspect in the public setting that everyone thinks is superior is actually worse when you factor in peer pressure, etc.
You have so much more control when you teach your own kid. Again, you have to have a family/woman who puts forth the effort. Most don't, which is why it usually doesn't work.
Proper homes schooling is a very rare thing.
I’m saying baseline that sheltering your child in daycares and home teaching will never reveal to the child what the world is, a bunch of bullshit that you need to cut through yourself to be successful.
I’m young still so I could entirely be wrong but I think currently it’s vital to teach your kid that you have to find your own path in the world and to be successful in that path you need to find ways to educate and further yourself.
I’m sure if you get homeschooled like Queen Elizabeth you’re better off; concepts like that are extremely rare though.
Can confirm. Homeschooled for like 2 years really early. Was awkward as fuck but got over it because it was in the 3rd grade.
I agree. An unemployed mom with a stack of scientifically inaccurate workbooks is way better than dozens of people college educated in their chosen field and a love of teaching. Plus you don’t have to worry about your kids learning how to interact with other people.
Educated with a love of teaching? What fucking decade are you living in dude? Modern school systems are abysmal i
You’re right. Despite requiring a teaching degree, teachers are not educated. And out of the 3.2 million teachers in America, none of them have any passion for their chosen field.
The obvious alternative is to have your mom watch daytime TV while children read mail order workbooks that say the Earth is flat.
Or spend 20k a year that most people don’t have to go to private school with uneducated, passionless teachers.
So, which textbooks do you have links to that aver that the world is flat? Oh, none? So, you are lying and full of shit?? That makes sense...
I woke up this morning and felt bad about myself for arguing with a retarded person. Even if you win, you still lose. Please don’t have children, for the sake of everyone.
Oh, I homeschooled even when my kids were fully enrolled in public school, at least it seemed like it, because I'd have to spend a couple hours a day undo'ing the damage from the "college educated in their chosen field" morons. Pro-tip: if they are teaching it is because they have a tough time in their chosen field.
Every single friend of my eldest would go to private tutoring for at least two hours after school every day--places like Sylvan. Without it, they were doomed to completely shit up their SATs. And he went to a school ranked in the top 20 public schools in CA.
No, Miss Science Teacher, they don't put silver in your dental fillings because it is a poor conductor of electricity and you won't shock your head when you eat with utensils.
The fucking idiotic shit I'd hear every single day...
Oh, and one last point: you really think the teachers create their own curriculum? That's funny. No, they buy it just like the homeschoolers.
The emasculation of males with the push of the liberal agenda in public education is disgusting. I can’t stop thinking about that video of a teacher berating a student for wanting to join the marines and serve his country. And we wonder why America is becoming so weak.
I had a female teacher in elementary school call me a spaz and tell me I was ADHD because I was a normal energetic young boy. Turns out I’m actually more of an introvert and generally more reserved as an adult. Interesting that these teachers think they can diagnose students.
Good luck to you sir.
most teachers are retards.. the literally never leave school so have no clue as to the outside world. Their lives revolve around what happens in the staff room and the bitching and gossip about certain kids and their families. They are lazy as fuck and complain when they have to work extra hours at home. Most fail at disciplining their classes in any other way than isolating the kids from their friends, because their lessons are boring as fuck and not engaging. Teachers should be the best of our society and instead they are the worst. Some countries in Europe pay their teachers a lot more, and expect more of them. In these countries the children do much better and are taught critical thinking and how to teach themselves.
I am a teacher, but I got into it in a weird way. I have a masters in my subject area and never “studied” education beyond getting the necessary certifications to teach. Most teachers are totally uneducated and don’t know shit about what they’re teaching. Their college curriculum consists of masturbatory educational theory classes, and they bring very little knowledge of their actual subject to the classroom. This results in most of them being insecure, authority whores who shut down questions because they’re incapable of answering them and fixating on order and compliance, because that’s all they were ever taught in the first place.
I hate to say this, but some of the most absolutely dull, uneducated, uninteresting people I’ve ever met have been teachers. You’ll always have a few who happen to be inherently intellectually curious and know their shit based on their own research, but that’s not what they’re taught and more than most are happy to never learn and just bask in their authority and righteous indignation.
I agree. I dated for a long time a very smart teacher who was top of her University and the youngest head of a department in the history of the state. I also was lucky to be taught by a very driven male teacher (He was an Executive Teacher) and he had this system to identify where kids where in all major areas and then he had a system to continue their development from that point - right up into the upper echelons of high school level (we did an exam at the start of the year that determined your "place" in the system) It was amazing. He ran a contract system which had a certain amount of time each kid needed to spend on each area, and then once your contract was completed you could nominate to do things in your "free time". He was super inspiring and I think I learned the most from him out of the 6 years I was in primary school. I have no doubt there are good teachers, but I think you know that its a secure job for the most part and not that popular among men. Its even less popular now due to all these hyper crazed mothers who think any man who goes near their kid must be some kind of pedo. Western civilisation is certainly in the decline and its starting right there. The shear amount of friends of mine with kids who talk about how their child or friends of their child want to change genders is fucking scary...
Tell me you are joking r-right?
No. I am deadly serious. To the point im actually genuinely worried about the future. I'm also considering moving to a remote area so I can get away from this mindset and have my kids grow up normally. After many long discussions with them, I believe that there are a couple of reasons for this. Firstly, where I live the government has introduced this "scheme" in schools whereby they force all students to imagine themselves as genderless. The spin they give it, is that it promotes "safer schools" because its teaching kids to be tolerant. I think as a bi-product or perhaps even its intent - the kids that are having difficulties (and who didn't as a kid/teenager) attribute this difficulty and resulting unhappiness with their gender being wrong. Other kids choose to do it as an attention seeking process. Its seriously messed up.
You in Australia? I recent moved away from Melbourne for that one reason. Be careful. Regional towns in Aus are only a few years behind. WA and Qld are maybe 10 years behind. Only place where there is none is the hard working rough towns of mt isa and the like. But then the baby bonus kids are hitting 15 and running wild so safety is an issue
Sounds spot on. The whole idea of a teacher is someone who has mastered a subject and takes an apprentice to show them how to learn that particular trade.
personality wise, most teachers tend to be NF and SJ types (via Myers Briggs). Offensive TL;DR would be that SJ are boring, close minded, hard working, attention to detail, rote-memorization types and NF would be hippie, tolerant, ambitious, big-thinkers, cult leaders
Meyer-Briggs is a horoscope for pseudo-intellectuals.
but for me it has high correlation, thus it works!
Before I graduated with my bachelors I would tutor education majors for the mandatory 1 science course they had to take to graduate, wanna know a secret?
They intelligent, hard working, ambitious people don’t go into Education. 9 times out of 10 it would be some dumb sorority whore who spent the first half of college failing classes, fucking anything with a dick, and partying. Teaching school in the US will literally take anybody so they do that because “OMG I just love kids!” Is codespeak for “it’s a salaried job with tenure”.
The end result is dumb, bitter, lazy female educators who force their beliefs on others.
Lol at my school all the men who chose to serve got like a 5 minute standing ovation at graduation. Then again, I live in south Texas.
Yea and we wonder why the incels are shooting up schools. These kids have no friends and no outlets and have been beat down their whole life. Yea they are fucking cowards who should rot in hell. But they're doing it for some form of validation. Some twisted glory, which the left gladly gives them through the media coverage.
My goal is to keep my son out of public school...if we have another kid, I hope to keep them out of public school too...fuck that whole system.
What city? Let me guess, Seattle.
If it's not SF, I'll be surprised.
I mean I went to high school in a conservative area and that shit still happened in the one area it mattered most, the guidance counselor and the transition to college.
Our guidance counselor was blatantly anti-education for men and would go so far as to actively discourage higher education in men while actively helping female students acquire scholarships.
This wasn’t by merit either, she actively would tell guys “you won’t get in, don’t bother trying. Just take autoshop or woodworking instead of extra science”. When I showed a strong aptitude for science on standardized tests and tried to take more of them she actively would remove me from the courses like chemistry or physicis and put me in things like “environmental science” which was basically free grounds keeping labor.
Her refusing to help high school males prepare for college got so bad that another Teacher decided to cancel her classes for that day and took groups of students to the library and helped each of us write college applications.
This wasn’t a well hidden secret either. Multiple parents complained to the school system but nothing was done because she was “tenured” and related to a higher up on the school board.
Anywhere in Canada.
Literally anywhere
You think Canada is bad. Its so OVER for the UK i doubt if it ever began.
Can confirm it's a fucking shitshow.
Can confirm. They're removing fucking playgrounds here......
I thought he was in England
Well in England you didn’t have an home front, you had a front, your home just happened to be around the same place.
But he spelled words as though he lives in the UK
I don’t disagree, he might even be a Brit but the home front part to me spelt US, I might even be wrong about my original smartass comment.
My bet is around Boston. Insane amount of liberals here.
I am a private school teacher working overseas. I got married 6 months ago and now we are talking children. NO FUCKING WAY would I send my kid - male or female - to a public school in the west.
Ontario is probably the worst. The teacher's unions collaborate to elect a Liberal government who gives them more shit. A typical 30 something teacher is a millionaire given their income and pension benefits. One wag calculated that they make $150 an hour or something similar.
Keep in mind that "education" as a field scores at the bottom of IQ tests among graduates. We have a "blind leading the blind" situation.
In the organization I work for, the principal has a PhD in Education. The Director of education has umpteen years in the public bureaucracy. The head teacher has a PhD in Chemistry and worked for a large pharmacheutical firm before getting into the game. I have degrees in business and law. The other staff have quals up the ying yang. You don't find this in the public sector.
When I get back stateside, I will run for school trustee. It is a part-time political position. And I will be a fucking pain in their ass.
Glad i have a french canadian background and i can fuck off to quebec to have my kids raised properly..
Quebec is terrible in many ways. Put the kid into the English system. My brother-in-law went through that and he is perfectly bilingual.
My wife and I are working on our first kid. I expect that she or he will be able to speak half a dozen languages: English, French, Tagalog, Ilocano, Putonghua (Mandarin), Cantonese.
I’m still undo-ing all of the programming I received in public school & i graduated over a decade ago.
I understand you. I still am in the anger phase sometimes when i remember what an unhappy kid i was in school. Mostly it was due to lack of physical strength, but also that i was romanticizing chivalry towards women and it screwed me over for 5 years. Only recently i understood that a male can be a decent caring person who can be soft with friends but with women you have to be strong, dominant and confident. They will not forgive you for showing softness/weakness even when they say that males need to be caring/understanding etc. Etc.
Cte from heading the ball is a real thing and 'proper technique" is nothing to do with it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38971750
Old heavy leather balls that absorbed loads of water. Not modern balls.
no, modern balls. thats like saying being punched by tyson wont hurt coz he's wearing lovely soft gloves.
I suggest you actually bother to read the link you posted. It's entirely about old leather footballs. Also, the force behind a punch is completely different to heading a ball. I'm going to assume you've never done combat sports or played football (soccer). I've done both and know the difference. Don't talk about things you know absolutely nothing about.
you've done both, so how can we trust your defective brain damaged self?
'durrrr i got punch in face so i scientist expert on punch face'
Did you even read the article you posted?
Infant care, pre-school, school, college, and the whole of western culture and media is now feminized to the core. You won't save your son by avoiding public school, but by getting involved in his raising. Passively by letting him see and emulate your masculine behavior, and actively by working to deprogram him every single evening.
It's funny how you get out of school with half a million dollar debt and at the end you have nothing to show for it.
daddy said it was a good idea because he read it on reddit lol
You need to flesh this out into a post with an introduction, a body, and lessons learned with the lesson corresponding to an RP tenet. This is not finished.
Thanks for the information. I have been a long time lurker on this board and I quite enjoy reading it. You are absolutely right. I just needed to vent.
Thanks for sharing. I found it valuable.
Yeah draft is due on Tuesday little Jimmy or you get 58 lashings!
Read "Dumbing us down" by John Taylor Gatto
http://docdro.id/LvA7lsW
I recommend weapons of mass instruction, too. It's by the same author.
good post . But i was a student of a private school in France and i want to explain something.
One day , i was late for 5 minutes and my teacher yelled at me . İ am 21 and i couldnt let any woman yelling at me like that, so i was angry and i yelled that she cant do it for 5 minutes of delay.
The second thing is , that the boys of my class were all submissive , i couldnt bear their behaviour i was really disguated by my class .
Finally , the teachers gave me a warning for assiduity for only missing class 3 times and they were all justified.
So i resigned but i still pass the exams anyway. All schools of France are like that , they treat you like a sissy boy . (except the schools at more than 4000 euros per year)
Did you by any chance go to Council Rock South? I ask because I had almost a verbatim experience with the "home front" from a teacher there: Ms.Mitchell.
This is the kind of thread I come here for.
When girls do badly, boys are blamed and the curriculum is changed to benefit girls.
When boys do badly, boys are blamed as evidence for why girls are better.
I'm with you on everything and it's really sad (and short sighted) on the part of women/the administrations of these schools; BUT heading the ball actually does lead to concussions.
Holy fuck, as I'm reading this I'm watching s video about women in factories during WW2 in my (public) high school. I wanna learn about the soldiers damnit!
Edit: It wasn't as much as I thought it would be but it gave women way too much credit. It said they "logistically" are the ones who really won the war.
Went to an all guys private high school, and that has been the best thing my parents have ever given me. Place is RP as hell, and the camaraderie and life skills I learned are unparalleled. Most guys from there run circles on everyone else in the professional world. I don’t know a single guy who doesn’t look back fondly on their time there. If you have the option in any way, you should do the same for your sons. Undoubtedly I will do the same.
"I am a history teacher in one of the most liberal places in the world"
There is your problem.....it isn't your public schools as much as the community in which you reside.
What happens if boys start calling blue pill teachers Communists or some other insult on the left side of the SJW spectrum...you know, make a total mockery of what's going on. Hopefully culture will catch on?
I am assuming you are in a white school. Everything is worse on the other side of town.
No such thing as white school where I am from. White kids are a tiny minority in every one of my classes. 3-6 students of European ancestry in a class of 30 (mostly Middle Eastern, Asian, African).
i sent my half asian kids to minority public schools for a few years,, horror show.
thank you for this! Going school in Germany, I had to learn knitting.. knitting! I hated every second of it. Male behaviour as heavily discouraged, being a boy was shameful... what a joke.
Start knitting burkas, then. lol
haha! Don't live there anymore, thank god!
Home school. Only answer. If you want your kids to grow up, surround them with capable grown-ups, and a small group of their peers. Not a mob of other kids, and teachers who are either female or mostly non-threatening males.
I went to a private school - not better.
I think it depends on the teacher, unfair to just label all female, or even simply the majority of teachers period, fit the op's description. Here in aus they (teachers) are def. Left liberal feminist types in general but maybe we are just more laid back and tolerant so as to not ram agenda down a kids throat. It's def worth keeping an eye on though if ur a parent and simply rearrange teachers with the school or change schools and hope for a better roll of the dice as far as teachers are concerned.
Ok, this is the single most baffling gender-specificity I've seen on this subreddit. If boys shouldn't be sent to these schools, neither should girls. Those bitchy teachers who abuse peoples' sons would just convert peoples' daughters into the next generation of themselves.
I got lucky, my favorite teacher was this woman in her 60s?(graduated high school in the 60s), she was very traditional and based on her husband respected masculinity. My bio teacher. She cared a lot about all her students and i was one her favorites. She let boys be boys, was pretty sassy too, didnt take shit from anyone
One of the few teachers who wasnt a communist who hated masculinity haha. Ngl i saw pics off her in high school she was an hb8.5 too haha, looks good for her age too.
I hated school because of this and it wasn't a public school. It is a shame that these kind of things happen in elementary where the first thing you should be learning is that learning actually is fun. It took going to a trade school and being taught by old, highly skilled mechanics - not teachers - that I started to slowly realize this. Learning is fun and fulfilling but as a kid I thought I hated it.
If you're leaving the development of your son up to a school of any kind, you're a failure as a father. Full stop.
I couldn't possibly disagree with OP more. Not that schools tend to be filled with socially fucked people, because that's true, but keeping your kid away from other points of view is a terrible plan. You need to let them see it, hear it, experience it, and guide them to understanding reality.
You can't teach experience.
Send them to school so they can see the nonsense themselves rather than shield them from it. If you are a good parent the overweight bitchy bitter stupid dykes won't affect them.
". . . focusing an inordinate amount of time on the 'home front', you know, when the women were home making munitions," . . . Yeah, there was Rosie-the-Riveter. The feminists never bother to mention that 30-something men, 40-something men, 50-something men, and, yes, 20-something men were working on the home front. My grandfathers were too old to serve (30s) so worked (the farmer g-pa reverted to using horses due to fuel rationing), and my great grandfather came out of retirement as he knew how to repair locomotives. Redpill history, vs. blue-pill history.
Regarding other comments,
Do you have any suggestions I am very open minded. I am a new here, so any advice will be valuable.
Organise it like the other commenter (itiswr1tten) said using headings/subheadings (make all headings bold - see the formatting guide) and bullet points at the bottom under a "lessons learnt" subheading.
Otherwise your post is quite good and informative.
I went to a private school which was the most communist community I’ve ever been in
Yes public ed is what you make of it. And it is definitely slanted to women. The real way to beat the blue pill is to not have children. Marriage + children route is all blue pill society. Get snipped and live the red pill life to the fullest and don’t sucked into the mire that is the blue pill. Retire early, travel, do what you want and no ties to hold you down.
Lies. Not having kids is emasculated deluxe.
Negative. Your buying into the whole blue pill society hook line and sinker. You have a kid and your beholden the female forever.
Hm, so sterilizing yourself is key to not getting emasculated. /s
Idk what to tell you. Just dont marry a ho. So many guys here want a ho partner then get upset when she ho's.
They all ho’s. You never know what they will turn into. You really need to breed go to a sperm bank and let some other blue pill raise em. Just sayin.
The idea of my children being raised by strangers is terrifying. They will also probably come out weird as fuck and need guidance from a fellow weirdo like me
Well good luck breeder. Realize that marriage/ family/ children are all slanted to the blue pill lifestyle. Women are crazy and you never know what they will truly turn into. But good luck with that.
I have absolutely no fears about showing up at the school and asking for the reasons for my son's punishments should he come forward and tell me he got in trouble for practically nothing. They'd better have a damned good explanation.
There will always be betas and there will always be alphas.
I was a youth and high school football coach for 17 years. I was a middle school teacher for 9 years.
I can confirm every single word you wrote. In fact, other than the absence of profanity, it's like I wrote that myself.
I have been saying for a long time that if you send your kids to public school you are a shit parent.
Unfortunately, that's about 95% of all the parents I saw in my career. That's why I got out of it.
Jesus christ, the amount of political horseshit on reddit sometimes.
Start get involved in teaching, stop expecting others to do the dirty work for you.
If you want your son to be smart, why not help him grow instead of expecting some privatized education to help him out.
Can I be honest and say I have never felt my teachers have tried to indoctrinate me when I was going to school?
I live in Commiefornia and only graduated 3 years ago so I’ve never experienced any of these things
Holy fuck u gotta be kidding me. I graduated 30+ years ago from a rural east coast school and it was happening then.
No way I believe it's not going on in CA today.
Maybe I’m an exception lol I had a super liberal APUS teacher but she didn’t force anything on us and most of my teachers were lowkey Republicans lol
Wow that's rather surprising. What part of CA? (you don't have to be specific).
San Gabriel Valley, about 30 min from LA
Historically what's been the driving industries there (any oil?) or is it farming?
Just trying to get my head around there being "lowkey repubs".
None of that lol
The closeted Republicans were probably out of town transplants who were set to teach at my school. Some kids I knew were right wing too but were overwhelmed by commies hahaha
Southern CA is low key conservative af. After living there the people are not the stereotype
It's probably just so cucked there, there is nothing left to indoctrinate.
Dude it’s the little things. Did they tell you that you aren’t allowed to hit back if someone assaults you? There ya go. That’s left wing feminist brainwashing right there.
I mean CA is commie in the North Coast and LA but its pretty right wing in the smaller towns and rural communities.
My city isn’t really small or rural. I’m not sure of the demographic but I’m sure it’s boomers mixed with incoming Latino families. I never go a day without hearing how big a moron Trump is LOL
You can send them to public school as long as you supplement it.
Supplement exactly how? Which subjects? I've been thinking about this, but I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what to supplement..
Give them examples of things they will learn in school, but that aren't entirely accurate. Like the Christopher Columbus bullshit, how he didn't really discover anything, how he lived, etc. You can't counter everything, but you can get him to understand that he should be more weary of what they tell him than you.
Kids usually believe adults, you know.. but you have to touch enough subjects a little enough to where he will find out the truth or ask if something is suspicious.
I have about stroked myself out worrying about what they are learning in school. I probably wouldn't worry as much if I would stay out of the crazy politics that I have witnessed the last 7 years. I did turn off the news on the TV, but now I'm on Reddit..lol
So what did the "groomer" do? Haha?!
What country are you in? The term ‘public school’ can mean different things depending where in the world you are.
How old are these kids? You realize that the US soccer federation put a mandate on heading the ball until kids reach a certain age not too long ago, right? U14 is the first level where it isn’t limited in some way nowadays.
This is in result of research showing it can cause damage. I couch youth soccer & have a national license
Can you write one on daughters? That's the one I'm more worried about.
A good part of me thinks about this every other day, I am reaching my 30s and having kids is becoming more of an active thought in my mind.
I've considered having any son(s) I may have go to public school, with the sole intent on schooling him AFTER he gets home to shed light on the bullshit in the system and teach them how to game it and recognize the shitshow circle jerk that is politics and social order. It could also serve as an excellent bonding primer to build a relationship I never had with my own father with things such as trust.
This "after-schooling" could be something as simple and passive as "hey Bruce, tell me about what you went through today, did that faggot Kevin give your friend shit again? Let me show you some martial arts I learned in college so you can shut that kid up next time he opens his mouth."
"Dad, my teacher told me I had question 6 on the quiz wrong, but I had the answer right, she said I didn't do it the way she wanted us to do it though, how am I wrong?"... "Listen kid, school isn't about teaching you how to do things as crazy as that sounds, it's actually a big system that helps raise kids in our culture to learn to become obedient and structured so they can become docile little cubicle sheep in some big office one day. You don't have to worry about that because I'm gonna teach you how to learn real skills that you can start your own business with one day. There's no single way to do anything in this world, but that basic bitch is giving you a hard time because you are able to think for yourself, good on you. Don't listen to her negativity, instead pay attention to these little social queues that suggest they're trying to reinforce obedience, take note of it and remember how they want you to write the answer down, but don't ever believe their bullshit that you're wrong. Trick them into thinking you're right and best them at their own game."
Etc.
I agree- yet some perspective:
As long as there is an aware role model in the house then these kinds of public school interactions can be reframed as the basic 'shit tests' that they are. If you can teach your son to hold frame, question the bullshit and be equal to it then they will have some fantastic armour to take with them into their adult life.
Naturally, I would like to see a better, more positive system to bring our children into adulthood but, from what I can understand- and I spend a lot of time working on curriculum development, the constant drive for socialised, compliant worker types is what ruins education. And this results based crap is driven by big business and government alike. I'm sure this comes as no surprise to any teacher.
But it's not just public school, this is fundamental. A great example is the whole concept of testing. Currently, we see testing as way of holding up what students know. Testing is really a great tool to use when finding out the gaps in knowledge which need to be addressed so the truth in testing is it serves you better at the beginning of a course rather than at the end. This probably seems strange to most. The reason we have test results held up is that they provide a very simple way of weeding people OUT. You might well be perfect for a job but you will never get through the system if your numbers aren't right and you don't tick the boxes. Test results are more a convenience to a system than anything good for students. We have learned that physically abusing kids does not yield positive results yet we allow the abuse to continue in so many new and insidious forms. (ok rant over :-) )
So the admittedly less than ideal challenge is to see the school system for what is is and to succeed despite it. The issue is where parents are absent- it is easy to cave in to the convenience of a school system which sells you the idea of 'taking care of your kids' when the reality is alarmingly different. Parents are so busy these days that they are forced to place their trust in schools when the truth is that the school system makes kids harder work in the long term- especially when they are still living at home aged 35. WTF?
But school, even public school has it's uses- just not what you'd think.
I work in education, too. And I have made similar experiences. A couple of years ago I witnessed a social studies class of a female teacher. She basically dissolved all traditional understandings of gender. She let the students collect various typical attributes of men and women, and then she began to deconstruct and relativize all of these attributes with oversimplified questions like: "Well, can't women be strong, too?" Of course she continued to talk about various professional fields which are still dominated by men and that women could do these jobs as well as men. And she even made baffling statements like: "So the only thing that men have, which women can't have, is a penis."
The most interesting thing in that class however were the reactions of the students. Most of the students were at an age of around 18. Of course most of the female students were quite open to the suggestions of the teacher. But even they showed a certain doubt about the most extreme relativist statements of her.
But the young men were definitely struggling with what was happening. I could see them cringe. And they were trying to come up with good counter arguments, but they lacked experience in confronting these blatantly leftist statements. After the class I talked to them about it, and I encouraged their natural intuitions about this subject.
This happened in central europe. Suburban, middle class high school in a big city.
What are the alternatives though? Private schools are just as bad, if not worse.
What is the red pill opinion on boarding schools?
Wait a moment.
I have read this one before a couple of months ago.. -_-
I always wondered why girls ended up getting a little more than the best of the boys where I come from. That's when I realized they have a mark or two for every subject for handwriting (means cursive).
At some point leftist haters have taken over the control over the gateways to the teacher profession. The result is adverse selection of the worst kind. We could have good teachers, but they are chased away or not even let in.
I remember the day when my family and I went looking for a high school for me to attend to. I wanted to go to the high school my father went too, which was a big and nice once filled with people from all kinds of different ethnicities (i'm a minority). but students from different levels of education had the same teaching but my father was condenscending to lower educated people, so i ended up in a beta-filled high school of racist people and had class with shitty people for 5 years. there were moments when i wanted to go full columbine, thank the lord i didn't. it was beta in the sense that female class mates seemed to have it better. like i worked my ass off to go to the highest level of education, but my female class mate who never attended school and was a problem child only had to make tests to pass, no matter how bad she would score. it was ridiculous
Honestly man, you are doing God's work just being there for those kids while in that environment, and I just wanted to thank you for it. Keep encouraging them to be the best. Be the reasonable voice amoung the "screeching".
Idk how cali rolls but where I'm from what I said is accurate. You live in the sjw capital, I figure it's either conform or face the consequences there.
This rings so true to me. I'm currently working in public education and can't believe some of what I've witnessed. After comparing the kids I teach to the ones I know who are homeschooled, I am especially firm that my kids will never be enrolled in public ed.
the concussion thing is real doe
I will never understand why education is a right, and why justice is a commodity.
Stefan Molyneaux has expressed the same sentiment in several of his vids (You Tube).
We live in a good, decent area. Our school teaches all the concepts of equality, civil rights etc etc etc. The teaching staff? Every single teacher (other than the principal) is a white, middle aged woman.
..right.. How does that make sense.
Always blaming others for your downfall, take some responsiblity
It’s been like this. It was like this in the 90s when I was in middle/high school.
I don’t think public school has anything to do with it.
I spent most of my life in private schools a and half of my high school in public schools.
My private school 7 and 8th grade classes were full of annoying wannabe feminist hippie girls and the teachers who taught them to be that way.
Regardless of how much time I spent at school, my parents taught me the vast majority of who I am today.
Teach your kids. School can teach them basic book learning and how to exist and practice existing in a social environment of peers. Your dad should be the one teaching you how to not be a bitch.
It really just depends on the school. In the end, I'd rather have a school that gave my kids a great education that sets them up for success than have them be idiots. That takes priority over anything else.
Like several commenters mention below OP, this needs to be better written and clearly tie to TRP tenets. I'll help you out.
Send your son to public school, but teach him the 48 Laws of Power, especially #38. It is a great opportunity to learn how to think for yourself, but do as others do. The world will be full of times where learning how to do that will come in very handy.
Also here's a post I made on my blog last year about basically the same topic. You'll see some interesting similar stories from my experiences teaching college at the university down in the comments:
https://www.illiberal-liberal.com/2017/10/left-think-me-think-bias-and-the-failure-of-modern-higher-education/
You're right about the system, wrong about how to go about it. Public school will teach tough lessons about the pussy pass and people keeping you down and in line, if you have the proper parenting to make sure the kid is looking at it in the best way possible. Meanwhile, homeschooling is absolutely worse regardless (keeping the kid in a bubble where he doesn't learn shit) and private school is more likely to be an echo chamber.
It must suck so bad to be an American in school these days.
This is why I want my sons to go to an all boys boarding school
Keeping them away from females isn't the solution.
I went to a boarding school (co-ed). Wouldnt necessarily recommend. I also went to an all guys overnight summer camp. Waaaaaay better idea
It doesn’t mean their teachers will be male.
I think public school is fucked too and experienced this same shit while working on the inside, but what other options are there? What if you can't afford expensive private schools? How do you homeschool a kid without him growing up to be a social weirdo/how do you work to earn money to support kids while homeschooling them at the same time?
Homeschooling has come a long way. Most cities have “homeschool groups” that go on field trips, have events, and allow for normal socializing.
Honestly it’s schools that are completely fucked up when it comes to socializing. Explain to me when in your life you only spend time with one person old enough to be your parent and 30 people the same age as you.
Homeschooled kids learn to speak to strangers when they go shopping, they have the opportunity to participate in professional mentorships while their “schooled” peers are busy figuring out the best way to sneak alcohol into school, and with modern technology there are limitless friendships to be made.
Homeschooling is not a bad option, but as noted you’ve got to have your finances on straight and a clear educational plan. Find yourself a woman with a head on her shoulders who wants to raise up your boy to be a man. They’re rare.
And just remember, the less children you have to raise up to be decent, functioning, contributing human beings the more outnumbered they will be as the welfare whores and their brain dead pseudo alphas keep popping out babies they don’t need.
Quick PS: in reference to finding a woman and having babies - this obviously isn’t for everyone. I am by no means imploring a dedicated bachelor to give up his happiness to “do his duty” and procreate. This is more directed at men who are interested in fathering children. I know it’s been said so many times before, but for God’s sake put a lid on it.
This. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Women in Niger have an average of more than 7 kids each, women in Mali have an average of more than 6 kids each. Do you think these people have more money than you?
Kids love learning! The reason why schooling was invented was to hinder this and create loyal workers and soldiers.
I realized that about 12 years ago when I was 16 lol.
Most of the people in Niger and Mali have much lower and cheaper standards of living than I do. If I wanted to go to Niger and live that lifestyle, yes I could currently afford it. However, I used to live in Africa and do not really feel any need to return, ever :P
Obviously private schooling is an expensive endeavour; however, parents, specifically fathers, should take a keener interest in vetting their kid's teacher.
I have so many experiences with shit teachers trying to indoctrinate me with their BS, all the way till the end of college. Somehow I was always instinctively able to see through it and not let the brainwash sink in.
I will warn my kids about what some teachers do, and how they try to indoctrinate them. I want my kid to be able to handle these types of people and situations and recognize them for what they are after I go and am dead.
Private Christian schooled from Pre to HS. I agree they are better than public. But still they absolutely want to brainwash you to be a good docile religious boy (at least in my case). In school trips they divided girls and boys into different buses; can't group up with girls for projects, same with PT; we had dedicated catechesis modules several times a week; suspended whole classes when someone made a prank, telling us to snitch on each other... Serious soy shit.
I also got laughed at by my obviously feminist teacher and other brainwashed classmates when the "homosexual" topic came up. While I'm not gay, I just said who cares about the gays? Just let them be and let them adopt kids that dumb heterosexual couples left behind. Oh boy did that make them mad. They don't care that a kid might be with a happy couple that loves them, if it goes againts their ideals it's heresy!: - "How are you going to explain the kids that they have same parents?! They are also going to get bullied!" Their minds could not comprehend that they are the ones suppressing and doing the bullying, waving the "anti-natural" card around.
Basically private is better purely on the education subject and minimal order, in the sense that there is a low chance that your kid is going to be a loser smoking in recess with full Fs like most public students are. Just be vigilant and ask your kid about the teachers and what they put in his head, because at some point they are going to try to SJW him.
You spelled conservative wrong in your title. Carelessness minus 10 points
Agree that women suck as teachers, and that i never learned shit from any female in school, but you are doing your child a huge disservice by not putting them in public school. School is for socializing, not learning. Home schooled kids are sheltered and naiive, not to mention spoiled.
Good article , I want to read more