I don't buy Peterson's premise that a small group of men, like those in the manosphere, working hard and having a lot of sexual partners is bad for children. That's not on the men. That's on the women and has been since the sexual revolution.

Let's look at this argument.

When men work hard and have a lot of sexual partners:

• 1. It's bad for the children.

I think this one goes without saying. Energy is a finite resource and energy spent fucking other women is energy not spent on either gaining resources or raising the children. By every metric and study I've seen, children that are raised by a heterosexual two parent household outcompete practically every other child.

• 2. Men are to blame for the fact that they choose to do this

I think the process of assigning blame is a low-grade way of looking at it. I think the men that are choosing less good outcomes for their children are responsible for the outcomes of their children. I think cultures where a lot of men make this choice are less likely to be dominant cultures in the future. This means that their kids are more likely to be subservient towards other more dominant cultures in the future. So, it seems to me, yes men that engage in this are responsible for this. I prefer the word responsibility over blame, because I do think people have the freedom to choose this.

• 3. Women instead should be blamed since the sexual revolution

Again, I'm not fond of saying who should be blamed. The majority of the women at the time resisted both the birth control pill, feminism and the sexual revolution. Only through making birth control free and free of stigma, pumping culture full of stories about it and educating 30 or so lifelong gender activists per university across the west has the culture shifted to where we currently are. That's not to let women of the hook about mindlessly defending the current state of affairs. But if you look into it, it wasn't women who started this shit; the groups can be closer defined than that.

Are women to blame for lesser outcomes for children? Absolutely. The divorce rate, most of the time initiated by women, which has terrible outcomes for children. The de-stigmatization of single mothers is another, who's children have the worst outcome of any demographic. But I don't think women are to blame singularily for this; men too have stood by and watched this change of culture.

I applaud people judging the current landscape accurately and doing the best they can inside it. The clown world is crazy enough currently that I can't fault either men or women fully for being hedonistic about it. But hedonism is part of the demise of the culture you're part of and it's forfeiting the future of your children. If you accept that, fine. But don't pretend it isn't bad for the children and that both men and women have responsibility for that situation (and as women don't take responsibility usually it'll be up to men to fix it and putting women in their proper place would be part of it).