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GAB is Down Because the Culture War is Real and the Overton Window is Shrinking

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October 29, 2018
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For those of you tuning in, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter this weekend apparently had an account on GAB.com, and while he also had accounts on facebook, twitter, and other sites, the powers that be deemed this to be the reason GAB.com must be removed from the internet.

Gab made a statement that they have been complying with investigators, having gone through and archived his account and taken it down as soon as they got the news, but that wasn't enough to appease the overlords who seek to censor the internet.

At the same time, Paypal and Stripe suspend their accounts with GAB, killing their payment processing.

Why does this concern us? We're not in this argument that Alex Jones, Gab, or whatever conspiracy nut comes along tomorrow is having.

But one thing is certain. Social Justice Warriors have been on the warpath for shrinking the overton window and putting into place the system and mechanisms required to silence and censor anybody outside that window.

And folks, what little we had that was considered acceptable is being pushed out the window as well. I wouldn't be surprised if exercise and strength training becomes misogynistic before the end of the year.

Disagree with the speech, but resist the censorship. Because if you don't, tomorrow they come for you.

We are working tirelessly on our Forums.Red platform to ensure that men can continue to communicate, no matter what the SJWs try to do to stop it.


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Title GAB is Down Because the Culture War is Real and the Overton Window is Shrinking
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 233
Comments 103
Date 29 October 2018 03:40 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]JackNapier36876 points77 points  (24 children) | Copy

War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, and Ignorance Is Strength. So this is the next step...

[–]1RPAlternate4219 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Go read: Harrison Bergeron to see how the next step goes.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is the year 2081. Because of Amendments 211, 212, and 213 to the Constitution, every American is fully equal, meaning that no one is stupider, uglier, weaker, or slower than anyone else. The Handicapper General and a team of agents ensure that the laws of equality are enforced. ...

Summary by Kurt Vonnegut

Jesus Christ...

[–]Vikingcel5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

It is eerie that I started reading 1984 two days ago and now this happens.

[–]TheStoicCrane6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

The SJWs, Governnent, and Big business are using 1984 as a template to create a dystopian society. It wasn't a prophecy. It's become a manual!

[–]Vikingcel3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I just only finished reading it a moment ago and the ending was devastating.

Great book, great message. To be frank, it makes for a great guide as well, would not be surprised if someone was using it as such.

[–]TheStoicCrane5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

The unfortunate and terrifying part is that though Orwell created a vision and potentially a template for an all pervasive totalitarian society within the same book there is no guide for how to destroy such a State.

It wouldn't be shocking if years down the lane if 1984 were banned or if it's original form were replaced by a scaled down "edited" version.

Alot of books nowadays are being widely distributed in "edited" editions were original copies are few and far to come by. Covert censorship is real I suspect.

[–]Vikingcel2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm sure Orwell made it clear that at some point the totalitarian system will become practically untouchable, as in the book.

The idea of proles turning it all over was sound, but they would have to wake up earlier.

[–]TheStoicCrane0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If Orwell's society parallel's contemporary society you think this one has any chance? Honest question not a smarmy one or backhanded one alot of keyboard alphas like to make.

[–]Vikingcel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think it will still take a lot of time before we reach that dystopian scenario.

I can still say that 2+2=4 here in EE. Better situation than in the US, I presume, where people might get mad and triggered by such a revolutionary act, but you aren't breaking any laws yet. I can't parade myself with a nazi flag, heiling, while being openly communist is fine. I don't really mind, albeit I find that wrong in principle. That's a minor infringement on freedom of speech and thought

The "party", whoever it could be would both need the technology and total ideological indoctrination to be able to control us as such. We might be almost there technology wise, but ideologically we are still far, especially in EE.

But who knows.

[–]JackNapier3680 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They took it out out school curriculum. Go read Brave New World. That's the one they banned at release for years and it is very accurate compared to our current state

[–]GodOfDinosaurs1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

Daily reminder that Orwell was a socialist

[–]Fulp_Piction20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

True, but his writings are anti-totalitarian. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because Orwell leant a certain way politically. I'd also expect that 1940's socialism was a lot different to the short-blue-haired disaster people equate it with today.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah dude, I’m politically aligned with Orwell. My point is Orwell spent his life critiquing authoritarian structures including capitalism, Stalinism, etc. This is another case of corporate power having almost total control over “free speech”. TRP hyper-focus here on SJWs is a sideshow. It’s a symptom. The real problem is that this is even possible.

[–]foxhound5253 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finally, someone who actually uses their brain instead of blaming everything on 'sjws'. Society is becoming a corporate free-for-all, like a cyberpunk dystopia.

[–]JackNapier3680 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

True, have you read Road to Wigan Pier? He knew what was going on with bourgeoisie socialists

[–]Avertus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Even old-school Communists from the 20th Century wouldn't stand the emasculated, overly sensitive radical ideologues of the new generation.

The Soviets bore up arms to fight Germany. Modern "progressives" are fucking scared of "assault weapons"

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

He was, then he wasn't. Read "Road to Wigan Pier", or listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6izO6R8G9M

[–]GodOfDinosaurs1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Orwell was a socialist his entire life. From the wiki on "Road to Wigan Pier"

He states very plainly that he himself is in favour of socialism but feels it necessary to point out reasons why many people, who would benefit from socialism, and should logically support it, are in practice likely to be strong opponents.

This was not Orwell objecting to socialism.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I don't know who wrote that article but it reads like an apology.

I do know that if you read the actual book you'll come away feeling differently.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Orwell was intentionally playing devil’s advocate. This was well known at the time and accounts for a lot of the controversy surrounding the work. I may read it anyway out of interest.

[–]TheStoicCrane0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You'd be surprisingly satisfied with some of his work. I recommend Reading Animal Farm first to understand his sentiment towards totalitarianism before reading 1984. Animal Farm is so well written it could easily pass a child's fable in terms of appeal.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve read 1984 twice and Animal Farm once. Love both of them.

[–]hearse22337 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

Interesting, he had an account on the website so they took it down.

I imagine they wouldn't go after pornhub the same way.

[–]destraht17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking your step-sister is definitely an approved fantasy so I don't see that happening and isn't that whole network of weird degeneracy pushers owned and control by a handful of those Special people?

[–]Shadowthrice11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

To many .gov IP addresses login to Pornhub. Things would get messy if they tried to shut them down.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

NoFap in shambles

[–]Luckyluke239 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy

I've had this argument before.

what happens when they DO finally get rid of the " alt-right" ( or whoever they deem as to "opposing them"

they are going to stop there because they need someone to fight. they will eventually turn Iinwords and same some people of there own faction aren't "progressive" enough and then they will be the new target. they won't stop till there is one person left.

[–]destraht7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

They might get arid of the "alt-right" on major portions of the web but then they will just push these people into more advanced forms of technology like dark web stuff. For example TOR Browser bundles stuff with Firefox and you just use that and basically just type in different addresses and you can go to that website all of the same. Look at television, they might have driven sanity off of the air waves even though we now can purchase 1000 channels and hardly any of it makes sense. Ten and fifteen years ago that was kind of a big deal about being on television or not and it was just sort of the standard. Now it hardly means shit if its only available on cable and every year it means even less. It will just be the same that slow picker-uppers will use the Light Web as their standard and marginalized and disillusioned people will just move on. Then what happens is to uncover an address destination it will take a research university or secret government level resources and then just picking up and moving servers starts the process all over again. To stop it would require tight partnership between powerful institutions and public facing organizations like the MSM. Then they have to walk a line of saying mumbo jumbo tech talk about how some company is hosting something that isn't against the law and that its obfuscated but then they can't really know that info since they shouldn't have access to it. That then requires a whole new level of mind fuck Orwelian system and we're just not there yet.

[–]Incel98765 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

They might get arid of the "alt-right" on major portions of the web but then they will just push these people into more advanced forms of technology like dark web stuff.

The idea is to make it so it requires a national ID to log into the Internet at all, and eventually for that ID to be implanted into you.

[–]destraht2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I was at the World Expo in Shanghai. It was that cities big equivalent of Beijing's Olympics. The Party government had created an animated exposition about the future and were projecting it onto a huge wall in the most vivid colors that I've ever seen. The cartoon was about a boy floating around and visiting different aspects of the future. They stated that in the future we will no longer need to study so hard because we will have a computer chip in our brain that comes standard with physics knowledge for example. I just know that in China they don't do big stuff accidentally since it is so centrally controlled. That just really demonstrates where their heads are at and why China is such Globalist darling. The people are willing to work their asses off to the point of complete sacrifice only for a loose promise of a dream and they will accept just about anything at any point along the "way". We see these national id cards, automated surveillance, gait recognition, facial recognition, purchase records, post record. etc and all feeding into an artificial intelligence network to determine your citizen credit score. Then over in India they just straight rolled out and broke the economy for the bottom tens of percent of people in order to force roll out strict bio-metric and digital currency control mechanisms. Its a trope but the US population still has guns and cash and so can resist this sort of thing although "It" (in the sense of what the Jews fear) is still very much on the long term radar here and it should be pretty obvious that the next half-generation to few generations are going to have some epic battles against the ultra centralized mindset that seeks to cull the population. I also have hope for Eastern Europe due to the incredibly paranoia and distrust there from their famines, gulags, psychiatry labeling abuse, wars and fatal gossiping, even if for the moment it just comes across as a dour expression.

[–]2wiseclockcounter1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

estonia has some globalist digital e-residency program in the works: https://youtu.be/2frpU6nkb_I

the following then of course should be no surprise: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-03/estonian-central-bank-exposed-1-trillion-money-laundering-nexus

[–]destraht1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I don't consider the Baltics to be Eastern Europe in the way that I described, although obviously it falls into that category. Well soon enough I feel that Hungary will band with other countries to form an agreement, treaty or union or sorts with some of its neighbors that can then be referred to by name for some easier speaking.

I see that the Baltics in particular are caught up in one side of my "Refugees" and "Russians" Squeeze Theorem theory. They can be made to fear the Russians by playing back old reels like it was a WW2 era themed Friday night matinee. I've personally seen this tune played like a fiddle in Poland and Ukraine. Then there is the "refugees" (I won't stop quoting fuck that!) front on the other side but the ex-USSR and Warsaw Pacts aren't buying that one since they don't suffer from save-the-worldism. Next thing you know I'm going over just one country and suddenly the Russian threat is just so far away but the country just absolutely needs to be invaded by Muslims for the good of the world. Makes sense, I guess, uh, hmm. In Hungary they are immune to both fronts of the assault on rationality and so are thumbing their noses at these games.

Its all contrived as hell. Estonia will just be hard played due to their fears of Russians but amusingly they are terrified of a outright Special person dominated Russia, when in actuality Russia has put their Special people in their places more than most and those Special people types have just moved over into the EU to have their unfettered way with it. The traumatized Baltic people just never got the memo.

[–]politeAndLevelHed0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

For example TOR Browser bundles stuff with Firefox

Mozilla (the company behind Firefox) is not your friend in this fight, in fact that are one of the leaders in eroding your freedom to think whatever you want.

[–]destraht0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree but that thinking has minimally impacted the security and privacy of their browser (for now). Anyways I wasn't glorifying Mozilla but giving an example of how painless future dark web stuff can be. I find downloading a torrent of a movie to be easier than navigating an app store with a login. I can imagine a future dark web being easier to use than a locked down portal system on the light web.

[–]slam90 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You don't need to resort to hypotheticals. Just look at Russia. After the revolution was won there were dozens of different progressive, liberal, socialist, communist, anarchist etc; groups with a decent presence. They were censored, exiled, gulag-ed, and killed.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

The Overton window is closing significantly. Its happening in front of our eyes. I’m trying to gauge where the rightwing is telling the truth and where they’re distorting the truth for their own purposes. It would be naive to say only one side manipulates the narrative.

Is there a separation between the SJW culture war and the current liberal attack on speech all over the internet. Are these two faces of the same enemy or two separate enemies. There is a lot going on right under the surface. I don’t have answers just more questions.

FB is lit up with the great zucking of 2018 where 800+ meme and non-liberal oriented pages were shut down. Add in the demonetizations and bannings all over the place. Add in the reddit purges. The thoughtpolice are out in force. Are their different police in the culture war vs the current state of US politics.

We have the perfectly timed migrant caravan, the weird mail bomber thing then a mass shooting all in the lead up to a critical midterm election in the US.

One of the libertarian meme pages I follow posted a meme Saturday morning that said “if the caravan and mail bomber aren’t enough.. then show the pic of sponegebob opening a case that said “mass shooting””. 4 hours after I saw that meme was when I heard reports of the synagogue shooting. Its highly uncanny.

There’s too much coincidence. My plan has been to bail on the west. I’m not convinced we are going to make it through the 10yrs I need to realize my plans. It’s actually quite concerning really and nobody seems to give a shit.

[–]SalporinRP1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Where are you gonna go? Europe is cucked, South America is mostly a shithole. Southeast Asia?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I plan to vagabond till I establish a foreign home base. I’ll still retain my US citizenship. Europe may be cucked but it’s still a fascinating place rich with history and tradition. Worth visiting and passing through.

Yes eyeing SE Asia and the bigger cities in South America.

[–]BurnoutRS3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you for introducing me to the concept of the overton window

[–]JamzeNeu20 points21 points  (29 children) | Copy

The dude who created gab is a really immature guy, with absolutely no sense of how to run a company. That site is destined to go down regardless of leftist/political intervention, now or maybe in a year.

Honestly the impact to 'culture war' in this particular case is negligible.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 32 points33 points  (23 children) | Copy

Is he the guy I'd choose to be fighting this fight? Probably not.

But we'd be stupid to ignore the implications of what's happening around us.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Many people who are subjects of test cases on rights are absolute pieces of shit. Take the guy ‘Miranda rights’ are named after, Ernesto Miranda; he was a rapist, kidnapper, and later convicted in a retrial anyway. But even pieces of shit deserve rights, because rights are universal.

[–]destraht4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

The guy should be allowed to fail all on his own. Plus a lot of that whole industry is based on flipping. These connected peoples sites generated enough waves of investment that they end up creating their own weather patterns. The guy might be an idiot because I have no idea about him personally but I'd bet that if he was doing the leftists bidding then he would be a darling instead of a pariah.

[–]grumpieroldman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

What have you done to fight it?
Nah that's alright, shit on the kid doing more than you.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's young. I made a lot of mistakes as a young entrepreneur. Hell, so did Zuck, Larry and Sergie. He'll mature. He's being forced to grow up fast as a business man.

[–]1bradyo24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

He sounds like a little bitch every time I see something retweeted onto my twitter timeline from Gab. If he’s going to play the “le world is censoring me” card every time someone criticises his site, then he deserves to go down screaming like the autistic toddler that he sounds like

[–]SpectacularFox4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

What are your specific problems with him? The site is always going to host controversial content by its very nature. The people banned from twitter are going to be on the edges.

[–]DeadliftRx8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't you fucking DARE to threaten my ability to hoist heavy-ass weights.

I will find a way to take out my aggression.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

With more heavy-ass weights I presume?

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

I wouldn't be surprised if exercise and strength training becomes misogynistic before the end of the year.

Already happening. Unable to link because auto mod. CringeAnarchy forum has some screenshots. There was an article that your exercising friends are more likely to turn nazi or smh

[–]SiegreicherMarsch6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I remember watching a Mark Rippetoe interview where he said that weightlifting would be removed from the Olympics due to political correctness of some sort. I thought it was an odd comment at the time, but maybe he knew what he was talking about.

[–]2mental_models13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

The Pittsburgh bomber was an avid lover of pizza.

[–]TheStoicCrane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Shhh. Next cheese, tomato, flour, peperoni, and ovens will become illegal like heroin.

[–]dontgiveupcarib6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wonder what percent of you are using crypto, a technology created to side step all of this bs

[–]Metallurg20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Every RP man should be in crypto a long time ago, it's like lifting, a must for independence

[–]adminsaregayniggers6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"it's a private company, just make your own social media platform"

"oh we don't like your social media platform, just make your own ISP and power company if you want to host it"

etc

[–]Patric_MasterBateman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have my account made on TRP.RED ready to go for the day this place eventually gets shut down

[–]gELSK13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

// , What seems heavy handed on the part of these Online Payment Processors and Web Hosting Providers is more likely just an effort at self preservation.

It's not an effort at censorship so much as revenue preservation.

Big companies like that operate like robots.

They don't have opinions, and have a heavily vested interest in avoiding even the appearance of having one.

This may not necessarily justify removing sites that the media or outspoken activists deem controversial, but it does explain it a lot more than the "Corporate Big Brothers" bogeyman story.

Because of this, it just means that the corporate Overton Window is a much smaller subset of the personal.

It's cause for concern, but quoting "First they came..." is overreacting.

[–]SpectacularFox20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This isn't true at all. Companies like paypal have been constantly shutting down small sites and voices on the right using their platform. It has nothing to do with public backlash and a threat to their revenue. They are too big to fail at this point. They have no competition. These actions are entirely politically motivated.

The people that run these companies have ideologies, they are not robots and they enforce their ideologies, even to the determent of profits.

[–]RedHeimdall4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Google, Facebook etc do not make more money by de-platforming Alex Jones. They do not make more money by censoring conservative news and opinion. Target did not make more money by championing tranny bathrooms.

All these big corporations are powerful agents advancing liberal ideology. Sometimes it is a lower priority than their profits. But other times, as in the examples I mentioned or the many others one could cite, it takes precedence over their own financial interests.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

With the recent legislation that sites are liable for their members content we will continue to see more of this kind of stuff happen. it's not just public opinion that could put these companies at risk.

[–]kittyclaw200[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yes, the bums that Starbucks have welcomed and the immigrants they pledged to hire are all revenue increasing initiatives./s

[–]1SirKolbath2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, the bums that Starbucks have welcomed and the immigrants they pledged to hire are all revenue increasing initiatives./s

Can the sarcasm. Starbucks pulled those stunts because they felt the PR outweighed the costs. They didn’t do it out of altruism and you know that.

[–]grumpieroldman3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was used as an excuse to get rid of Gab because it was a threat to controlled/controllable social media.

[–]U-944 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dissolve the Senate. Grant emergency powers to the Chancellor...

[–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What was GAB?

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

A total-free-speech Twitter alternative

[–]Masakari6661 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Culture war got hot with GamerGate and never stopped getting hotter. Anyone thinking "SJWs" and the "Culture War" aren't real is not paying attention.

[–]1SirKolbath1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I really hope there is an app for TRP.RED. I loathe using browsers for reading and replying to messages on my phone.

[–]gELSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

// , It's on the way. Donations make it happen faster.

[–]RainySeasonInPH1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Okay, so I got about three paragraphs into the linked article before hitting the redline on my WTF-meter, at:

hosting provider GoDaddy confirmed it has given Gab 24 hours to switch providers after claiming the website violated its terms of service

So the assclown that runs Gab had it hosted on GoDaddy? Fucking GoDaddy? How is it that they didn't kick him already?

Gab has painted a target on itself of a size such that it is insane for them to expect not to be hassled and fucked with. Seriously, how is that shit not already hosted on a bitcoin-paid server in cave in Switzerland or something?

This is just a case of straight up incompetence on the part of Gab. Play hardball and you're going to get hit.

[–]gELSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

// , I had the same reaction. See my comments above.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And folks, what little we had that was considered acceptable is being pushed out the window as well. I wouldn't be surprised if exercise and strength training becomes misogynistic before the end of the year.

Too late, Google "sexist exercising" and "misogyny fitness". There's already an ocean of garbage from well known publications calling you sexist for anything having to do with working out on your own terms.

[–]politeAndLevelHed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm still angry with Mozilla for ousting the inventor of JavaScript as CEO because he made a donation to the winning side in a gay marriage referendum in California years prior.

At the time I was completely shocked - how can your personal political opinions determine whether you may be CEO?! Especially in a tech company when your claim to fame was inventing JavaScript?!

Now it has become completely normal for the far-left to target individuals who dare to have a different opinion - and demand their employers sack them on the basis that their opinion is outrageous to current standards of decency.

Everything has become topsy-turvy. And the worst crime you can commit is to say something even slightly offensive. The British police have no time to investigate robberies, but they've got all the time in the world to arrest somebody who upset somebody else on Twitter.

The irony is that it isn't offence that has become indecent - it is offending the left-wing. Because you can publish as much overt hatred about Christians and white males as you like, in fact you can publish comment inciting violence against right-wing demonstrators in most of the main subs of Reddit.

So we have a group of people who are changing societal standards far beyond what anybody born 30 years ago would recognise - and they are seeking to ghetto-ise (by stripping people of their ability to be employable) anyone that disagrees with the new regime.

I'm wondering how many years we are from death camps for white males and right-wingers (or even, dare I say it, centrists, if The Crucible by Arthur Miller is any warning).

[–]LordTilde0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think we could benefit from the kind of technology of Steemit.com (or the platform itself). It provides a self sustaining monetization structure for quality content, and posts,comments are on the blockchain so cant be censured (easily).

[–]AllahHatesFags-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

They really need to get the SCOTUS to rule against this shit as a violation of the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution, which makes no exceptions for imagined "hate speech".

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

He started censoring art he doesn't like so I don't support him.



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