Captain of Yale Basketball team is expelled after his plate claims that their 4th sexual encounter was not "consensual."

Former Yale captain to sue school over questionable expulsion

And yet again, everyone will have to pay the ticket for the little princess' SJW moment.

Her story becomes more questionable the deeper you dig into it:

https://archive.is/7uH4S

Stern says the victim claimed she and Montague slept together in Montague’s room on four occasions in the Fall of 2014:

• On the first occasion, the woman joined Jack in bed and stayed the night.
• On the second occasion, she entered his bed voluntarily, removed all of her clothes and, during the night, woke him to perform oral sex.
• On the third occasion, she joined him in bed, voluntarily took off all her clothing, and they had sexual intercourse by consent.
• On the fourth occasion, she joined him in bed, voluntarily removed all of her clothes, and they had sexual intercourse. Then they got up, left the room and went separate ways. Later that same night, she reached out to him to meet up, then returned to his room voluntarily, and spent the rest of the night in his bed with him.

Stern said the fourth incident led to the sexual assault complaint, which was filed by a Title IX coordinator a year after the incident after the woman reported it to the coordinator.

His lawyer's statement:

“We believe that it defies logic and common sense that a woman would seek to re-connect and get back into bed with a man who she says forced her to have unwanted sex just hours earlier. And yet the Dean accepted this conclusion and ordered Jack to be expelled. His decision was then upheld by the Provost,” Stern said in the statement.

So:

• She was raped after voluntarily removing all her clothes
• Then later that night decided to contact her rapist and go back and spend the night in bed with him
• Then decided to report the incident a year later
• And didn't press criminal charges

Possible? Yes.

Probable? No. Even under the weaker preponderance of the evidence standard, it doesn't add up.

In addition, it seems the university was under pressure to crack down on sexual assault on campus:

Stern added that “we cannot help but think it not coincidental that the decision by Yale officials to seek expulsion of the captain of its basketball team followed by little more than a month the report of the Association of American Universities (AAU) which was highly critical of the incidence of sexual assault on the Yale campus, and the Yale President’s promise, in response, to ‘redouble our efforts.’ From what appears, Jack has been pilloried as a ‘whipping boy’ for a campus problem that has galvanized national attention.”

Even worse, he was publicly tried and judged:

“Last week, the media widely reported on statements made by Yale students and posters put up on campus which condemned Jack Montague directly as the named culprit and as a rapist, thus slandering him with this accusation,” Stern said. “He was never accused of rape and Yale took no steps to correct these actions. As a result, Mr. Montague has no choice but to correct the record.”

Read an article on Jezebel about this because I often try to see what ludicrous mental gymnastics they'll come up with.

Read the comments section and this stuck out.

"I don’t find it unfeasible that she would return to bed with him.

After I was raped, I remained in bed with the guy for a good few hours. I only realised I had been raped months later when on a bus, travelling home from work. It changed everything."

This is absolutely terrifying. You can have consensual sex and months later, she can just decide it was rape.

Reported a YEAR LATER.

A YEAR.

Posters they put up around campus slandering him, even though no rape charges were ever claimed:

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball-news/4697076-yale-basketball-sexual-assault-posters-jack-montague

You watch that Duke Lacrosse 30 for 30, then you see this shit, and you realize that no progress has been made at all.

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Considering that he was almost close to graduation, he likely had no long term plans for this girl.

When she realized that, she took countermeasures to ensure that he was punished for "doing her wrong". It's a great deal of solipsis when you realize that women are doing things everyday to ensure that their superficial reputations among their peers is protected (ie. slut-shaming), without realizing that these actions catastrophically ruin the lives of others.

I was at dinner with my wife and one of her co workers a few weeks ago. Her co worker (actually former co worker) got to talking about how she fucked this guy right after her divorce, and she was mad at my wife's old boss because she said something to the guy, and apparently he never called her back after they hooked up or something.

She was like: "Omg, like I could have totally like said he raped me or something but I didn't, and now that bitch goes and says something about how good I thought it was so he thinks I'm all swooning over him and shit"

I was just completely dumbfounded. All this shit you hear about with the feminists denying that women do this kind of stuff... It's like the get out of judgement free card for your everyday slut. And we are supposed to just go along with the whole "it never happens" line. Yeah.

Time for Yale to start losing Alumni support, just like University of Missouri.

One big takeaway from this is that the higher your smv gets the more picky you have to be about who you plate and interact with.

A lot of guys on here fantasize about becoming the smv 9 or 10 guy who fucks any woman he lays his eyes on. The reality is, there is sadly a big responsibility on you to be careful about who you give your time to.

Not saying these women are everywhere but it does happen. Often enough that you should safeguard yourself.

Make sure you wrap it up, keep text conversations, phone calls, if it's legal in your state, record your interactions if you feel it's necessary. Ultimately though, just have fun and be smart about it. Screen your women properly to weed out the super crazy.

Being a high smv male is awesome. Just don't get sloppy.

Edit: Not sure if the formatting rules have changed but I think you need a lessons learned section in your post to elaborate.

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I guess the moral of the story is, if you are a college man, don't have sex with women who go to your school.

You don't actually have to have sex for her to claim you did and it was non-consensual. "I blacked out" seems to be enough evidence to "convict" a guy, without evidence of actually having sex.

Glad he's suing the school for this - he should. And he's got every chance of winning.

Ah yes, the long-held American principle of Guilty until Proven Innocent ...

Perhaps we should just start burning anyone accused of a crime at the stake? Witch hunts, because those never went horribly wrong ... /s

I was just starting to think "Its been a while since I heard a false rape accusation from a top university" a few days ago. I enjoy reading them, in a morbid way.

I guess the moral of the story is, if you are a college man, don't have sex with women who go to your school.

What it does is say that there is a real legitimate reason to see an escort instead. It's an investment. Let's call it "freedom insurance."

Though of course the Duke stripper accusation shows that this is also bad advice.

This problem actually never stops. It could be your job at the exclusive law firm that you lose because you get accused of something like this just as easily.

Just to be safe.

We have women partners and ... well we wish we could do something for you but we have to respect their wishes.

This is a safe space and they're not comfortable working with you under these circumstances.

I could see it. Even with lawyers. Though it could be anyone or anything.

Probably the lesson is: don't have sex with anyone with whom you don't have any kind of counter leverage. Having sex with a woman immediately grants them huge leverage: the leverage to ruin your life with one impulsive phone call which she will then be obligated to follow through to the bitter end... possibly recanting 10 years later when it's too late.

So, you have to know. Really know who you're getting involved with. Or have something. Since we know YOU CAN NEVER REALLY KNOW what you will get from them tomorrow, know you're always taking your chances. I am actually for getting a video recorded with consent before doing anything.

Just say, well... this is the world we live in now babe. I need this or we do nothing and kick her the fuck out if she says no. Don't give her the leverage.

Society is not going to help.

I remember once having a man and woman cop come to my door during a very small party. I had loud music after being out at the bar. My neighbor (female) had a pact with me, that if we ever had a party (which she had once per month) if there was noise, to let each other know (I always let it go) instead of calling the cops.

The first time I had people over after 7 or 8 of her parties, she called these cops on me.

Anyway, man and woman show up. Woman acted hardass with me, tried to push into the house. I stood my ground that I was not permitting entry and she couldn't see in because of the hallway so there was nothing she could claim to see that justified entry. Anyway she just pulled out the tickets and wrote me up for $350 on the spot. No warning, and I already had turned the music down once there was knocking.

I looked at the partner during the hostility and he just looked at her and rolled his eyes and shook his head.

That's what men are going to do for you once you're accused. They're going to look at the woman, roll their eyes behind her back and stay silent because they don't want the Eye of Sauron to find them. Better you than them buddy, better you than them.

I hope his lawyer rapes Yale for $50 million.

Requiring evidence to charge someone with a crime is the cornerstone of the Western liberal judicial system. It really is amazing that basically what feminists argue is that when it comes to rape allegations, the "victim" AKA, a women, should be automatically believed regardless of the evidence. And in fact to challenge her allegation when there's an absence of evidence is "blaming the victim".

This is how it's going to work everywhere in time: your college, workplace, your local grocer, your newspaper, your reddit forum etc. - all will be "morally" run by the SJW commisariat; any type of wrongthink, even where they cannot legally put you away for it, will get you expelled/shamed on the smaller local level.

Of course when that's your college degree on the line it doesn't seem so small and local. It's a fucking big deal, and therefore most men will simply cower and live in perpetual fear & shame.

How do I know all this in such gory detail? The same exact processes took place in the Soviet Union, which has been a historical interest of mine. If you think this is bad, wait till the secret internal SJW courts begin their weekly review meetings to "contemplate" just how "morally upstanding" each individual at the company is, and if you're found not upstanding enough, call you onto the carpet to be shamed and put straight by a jury of your friendly SJW peers. This went on routinely at many major workplaces in the Soviet Union, verbatim. Example issue: "why is Mr. Ivanov still not married? This is uncommunistic of him. He is throwing a blight on the company and the community at large, and something must be done. Think of the bad example he sets for the children - all in favour? Very well."

And of course, should you piss the invisible Commisar off in some way by accidentally stepping on her princess foot in the hall, she can always make you take the fall for the patriarchy, even if you're a "model citizen" in every way. We laugh at the "Women's Studies with a minor in Drama" bitches, thinking there's no way they'll ever find gainful employment - but we may be laughing too soon, those bitches are being raised on purpose, the system is creating them as a special indoctrinated cadre designed to run your entire life in the future.

The secret courts and the shaming system are not themselves the point, nor does the leadership give a damn about justice or the fate of some individual cog who had to take the fall for the patriarchy this month; the point is to form an overall atmosphere of absolute pathological fear (all smiles and wonderful productive living on the surface of course), and in this way suppress the individual, force him into proper lockstep with the rest of the socialist herd. The more one fears and obsesses about not running afoul of the "New Rules", trying to be a good guy, the more the rules change to become ever more ridiculous and impossible to follow - and of course by this time they have already become impossible to question or rebel against... The resulting state of confused obsession over "how do I not do the wrong thing??" is exactly the desired psychological result, the more a man habituates to this state the easier it is to steer him and the rest of the population where the bosses want them to go.

Elements of this can be seen emerging already in the entire social-engineered "rape culture" scare, where even on TheRedPill men will second guess each other about whether what someone did was "rapey" and does it now put them in some legal danger or not. "Better safe than sorry!", write the well meaning fools, then plot futile schemes involving for example, having everything on camera for evidence, make sure she sends you back a happy text the morning after etc. - this is all exactly what the social engineering intends to happen. One has to understand, there is no way to be a good man under a tyrant's system like this. One cannot fit in and get along, everyone will be forced to rush about like mice in a maze of mirrors that are constantly shfiting and reconfiguring themselves to fuck us over just a little bit more this year than the last.

Women on the whole are not doing this, they are but a tool in this game, being cynically used to cower and control the men. Feminism is not a feminine way of thinking, but one of the 666 modern flavours of Marxism.

The future's looking real bright.

"how many men would have been saved if only one time had they decided to masturbate it off or paid a hooker?!"

ive got question (im not drom US) and would appreciate some answer since ive seen many times this kind of story here on TRP

• is there really nothing that protects students against this kind of bullshit? is there but only for females, and males are fucked?

• i mean, arent you supposed to sign papers and shit? after you've been paying and studying there for years, someone just decides "fuck off you expelled"?

• how is this decision taken? is by a group of people, or just the "top administrator" of the uni (whatever the terminology is)?

• can student sue the uni and see justice? if yes, is it useless anyway because "women-rule-society-reasons" ?

• can an expelled student like him enroll in another uni for the same degree and save the credit/exams so he has to redo only the last semester?

My university tried to expel me for a pot related offense without any sort of trial or hearing. My lawyer threatened to sue them and they dropped it in a heartbeat.

This guy needs to sue the school.

EDIT: reading article, it says plain as day that he is going to sue.

I'll bet money that he wins that suit.

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The captain of the Yale basketball team is expelled after his plate claims that their fourth sexual encounter was not consensual. that's right, they've had sex on three previous occasions, but on the 4th time around, I guess he was just overwhelmed by her feminine whiles and decided to take what had previously been given.

And it took her a fucking year to find time in her oh-so-busy schedule to file a report of this traumatizing crime. Oh, the horror. The horror!

One of these days, this will happen to the wrong person at the wrong time - and we'll all be watching the evening news about another horrific massacre.

Imagine losing it all, being accused of a crime you didn't commit. She knows it, her friends know it. The administration knows it. It doesn't even go to court, you're not even charged with a crime. You're then subsequently "released" from the school where you've spent tens of thousands and years of your life. The bureaucrat bringing down the hammer knows you didn't do it, and won't even look you in the eye - but goes through with it anyway.

Your name is dragged through news channels and social circles. Rapist. Friends and family never look at you the same way again. Other schools are reluctant to take you in, if at all, and your name is ruined. Your youth is gone and wasted.

This is an injustice beyond reason.

You would think that after the whole Ted Kaczynski Unabomber situation people would learn that radicalizing the intellectual 1% is a bad idea.

The female student claimed that their fourth sexual encounter was not consensual and reported the incident to a Title IX coordinator a year later.

This bitch wasn't raped. End of story. As Roosh said, ALL public claims of rape in which the girl did not file a police report are 100% false.

I so hope the guy sues the shit out of yale and drains them as much as possible! Fuck them

Are you sure he wouldn't be in trouble if he was charged by a girl who didn't go to his school?

were the 5th, 6th, 7th, and every meetup thereafter consensual?

Captain of the Basketball Team?

Fourth night in bed?

I'll bet he got Lead & Silver'd . That's my adaptation of the Spanish axiom , popular in narco states as well as modern relationship dynamics. Basically the narco bosses would offer local politicians a deal; take the Silver (bribe) or they'd get the lead(bullet) instead. When that guy bit the dust, the narcos would make the same offer to his successor.

So it goes now for dudes in college & the public services like Law Enforcement, military and so on. Women know the whole system will come running at the snap of their fingers. So after the third date with a guy they want to betaize they drop the hammer; wife her up and do the whole exclusivity thing in exchange for continued pussy (The Bribe) , or if the de-balled lifestyle of a married slave holds no appeal, leave and get a sexual harassment charge and the subsequent ruined reputation(The Lead). Either way you're losing something important, and the more power you have the higher the stakes get.

Field report: when I was active duty I got out two months shy of my school starting. I needed a place to crash for two months , so a good pal(married) lent me his couch for that time. Among other things ,his wife once threatened in an argument - directly - that if he ever left her or pissed her off bad enough, she was calling his commander and accusing him of abuse. He'd never get due process before being jailed and fired, and he knew it. Girl was hot enough she'd be riding a new dick before her husbands arrest documentation cooled off the printer.

I've heard similar stories from college plates. If a dude pisses them off in some way, she's gonna go wreck his shit. Sometimes it's a false rape accusation. Sometimes it's a beta she sold a story about so she could con him into beating up Mr Jerk .

just sad man, how much more of this can we take?

Don't have sex with girls that go to your school? Wait, why am I in college again then?

The government has created a monetary incentive to claim rape at a school, particularly if the accused is a big time athlete (since everyone "knows" these guys are entitled rapist jerks). In the wake of the $1M settlement in the FSU / Winston case, Yale decided to ruin this kid's life so that it could inoculate itself against such a lawsuit. They are indeed unprincipled cowards.

A month later...

CNN news desk reporting live after ex Yale Basketball all-star shoots seven in campus rampage. More at 6!

I would say prostitutes are sounding better and better but even then theyre stull women who can say you raped them. Fuck this country

This is outrageous. Can't you sue the university for this? What's to stop them from expelling other students as they see fit?

There is nothing wrong with the civil standard of "balance of probabilities" The problem is in the application of that standard because judges have no fucking idea (pun intended) as to what goes on in college bedrooms.

At its most retarded, cases like this go all the way up to the Supreme Court, where a bunch of senior citizens get to dictate how hookups should be managed.

Christ almighty. I hope things get better for the guy. Thanks, feminism.

Well, it's going to be hard to find a husband when you accuse every man on the cock carousel of raping you.

Well that's easy. Just fuck Chad and if he doesn't commit, just falsely accuse him of rape. Then you're "non-slut" status is preserved and you're free to peddle sex for commitment with the next guy.

Hmm... So, the Miami Dolphins are looking for cheerleaders in Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Brazil, as well as Miami? There is so much added motivation for me to dust off and improve my Spanish skills.

Oh, yea. The false rape allegation thing. Uh, this is a recurring pattern of behavior with colleges over the last few years and just seems to be increasing. I'm surprised with all this B.S. about "яape kulture", why so many women's only colleges are either closing or going co-ed to stay open. If this was real, there would be a demand for womens only campuses.

Wow! This story is enough to make young men swear off women for good, which leads to the second point in that women are crying, "Where have all the good men gone?"

The more these types of stories circulate, the more the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the women folk over the lack of eligible men is going to get worse.

I would suggest that if young men on campus want to get laid, that they simply hire an escort, thereby dramatically lowering the risk of expulsion and a ruined life. Where does this leave the college ladies? In nowhere land!

I recently saw a debate on the subject of what role schools should take in sexual harassment and it was really depressing. Both sides suck basically.

I believe that a school technically has every right to expel students without the victim going trough the legal system. However I also believe it is wrong for them to do so. I believe they should not be able to levy punitive decisions, only ones to keep the victim safe e.g. changing dorms and classes. Punitive measures should come from the legal system.

Wasn't this the "no means yes and yes means anal" school?

The school is probably trying to overcompensate. Honestly though ridiculous. I hope he gets justice in court.

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How long until all the feminist college bullshit has a chilling effct on men getting college educations? Why hasn't someone taken this to the supreme court? Why does our society allow this sort of fucked up injustice to continue?

As much as possible men need to respond with the most vigorous and unrelenting defense possible. And the best defense is offense, right? What should men on on offense here?

I hope he doesn't get a sjw, feminist jew judge in his lawsuit. This shit is dangerous.

Always have a camera in the bedroom recording every interaction.

Its almost like feminists are trying to return to where you can only get sex inside of marriage...

except of course married men can be falsely accused of rape too by their wives, and being married carries no additional protection under the law. Perhaps they just want guys to all cut their balls off or something.

Women are moody. This we know. It is entirely possible that the first three times were consensual and the fourth was not from her perspective.

There is a legal system in place. Did our man use it? I don't see any evidence for it. While Yale lacks a campus-wide ombudsman, at least as of November 2011, various departments at Yale do not. Our man might want to start there?

Wow, the USA is completely fucked.

These athlete stories are awesome in the sense that they raise so much awareness. Sorry about his life tough.

This type of bullshit is obviously very fucked up. In addition to a defamation lawsuit that will win this dude big bucks, that bitch should at the very least be fined substantial amounts of money and kick the bitch out of Yale.

Plate?

Can someone explain this?

Did she have something to gain here?

Weren't most colleges before the 1960s like fundamentalist christian colleges are today - genders mostly kept separate, no unmarried sex allowed at all, only chaperoned chaste dating allowed, etc? If the feminists and their allies keep pushing maybe colleges will be forced to reinstate this. I would find that amusing.

In other words making anonymous ONS safer than LTR.

"Where have all the good man gone?" will be asked at a much younger age, maybe even in college.

I'd seriously advise everyone in America films every second of their life because what's to stop a chick from saying you raped her while you were actually sleeping at home. It probably won't stick but it will still ruin your name and may get you into prison if her friends roll with it.

Everybody back on the pile!

I guess the moral of the story is, if you are a college man, don't have sex with women who go to your school.

I just read a story the other day about someone expelled after accusations were levelled by a woman who didn't even go to the guys college. Just because she isint associated with your school won't save you.

I made a video in response to the whole Preponderance of the Evidence in reaction to reading this

To be fair. It may be a completely different set of women looking to find husbands than willing to accuse people of rape.

And while I'm no expert on this particular case. I don't think 3 previous sexual encounters doesn't in itself mean there couldn't have been a rape. My point being if this really is so obviously a case of false accusation this wouldn't be the fact I would use to show how obvious that is. Because 3 previous sexual encounters doesn't make me think "then there couldn't possibly have been a rape."

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Wait a second, this is twisted.

Granted i believe 99% this is female bullshit/dissatisfaction but. Odds are not the problem.

If she resisted him clearly on 4th fuck and he pushed in then her argument is valid. If the guy lost his head then sadly there is no way to argue it was not rape.

Perhaps the guy lacked abundance or stoicness. There is no reason to be upset in that case, he beta'd and paid the price.

If we are to embrace masculine polarity there is no way he was "pushed" to something but rather he ceded to a weakness. Was the female machiavellian in her resistance ? probably so. But that's how most raging betas end up in a jail hole.

What i'm saying is not that the guy wasn't genuine and she wasn't a hell of a bitch but. This kind of analysis doesn't benefit us. Maybe he risked and lost vs gynocentrism, maybe he was a big, big asshole ( not as in alpha but as in self-entitled bitch who knows no consequences ).

There are no proofs inside there, no cellphones messages, no nothing. There is no way to disqualify him as being just a retard who pushed into a nagging vagina and paid the price.

This is just free rage for the less intellectually developed TRPers and doesn't help. But that's just my opinion.

As you can't ( well, since they do, shouldn't ) believe every rape is a rape ( quite the opposite, i know ), you can't just say "she said rape OMG!" and think it was just a fuck 100% of the times which ended in disaster cos hamster. This is a catch 22 regarding the truth but both extremes ain't good for thinking.

Do not encourage blind outrage, really. Credibility costs the burden of evidence.