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Feminists know they can't get sexual assault convictions when they're made up or have no proof. Feminism continues marching towards their goal of absolute power: TED TALK Jessica Ladd: The reporting system that sexual assault survivors want

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March 17, 2016
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First of all, if you have time, check out this new TED talk by Jessica Ladd. Here's a quick and dirty synopsis:

She starts her talk with a bunch of made up numbers and dubious math.

  • 1 in 5 Women will be sexually assaulted during their college career. (if this were actually true about any college, women wouldn't go to that institution, let alone parties at that institution)
  • Less than 10% of sexual assaults are reported (we know this because?)
  • Only 6% of the reported sexual assault attackers spend any time in prison. (which of course means apparently 94% have escaped punishment, rather than might be innocent).
  • Women have to think about whether it was rape on average for about 11 months before reporting it. (because that makes fucking sense)

Ready for fuzzy math?

  • With these numbers in mind, it means there is a 99% chance sexual predators will get away with sexual assault. (More on this nonsense math later.)

So, considering that basically every woman is a victim and that every dude is basically a rape machine, the clear problem Jessica presents and purports to solve is that women simply aren't reporting the crime enough to finally put all the guilty people behind bars. (Of course they're guilty, not innocent, don't ask any questions thank you).

So she invents a cell phone app that lets you log your encounter right away (rather than 11 months later), but not commit to actually filing a police report. The subtext here is that she thinks women are waiting 11 months because they're either afraid of coming forward, or afraid that coming forward with no proof won't instantly put the guy in jail. So you can log the encounter with this phone app, and not commit to a police report, but if somebody else logs a similar report about the same person, then it sends both of your reports to the police, because now you have corroboration that there's really something going on.

It seems like a great idea, in theory, to crowd source rape accusations. Actually, no, in theory it's a fucking terrible idea.

So first, let's address the math. Somehow out of all the numbers she managed to prove that 99% of all assailants go free. Rather than consider that maybe the actual crime itself isn't taking place a made up number of times, (the unreported rate, which could theoretically be zero to infinity for all we know), or consider that the people not being put in prison might actually be innocent, she decides that yes, with these made up numbers, there are a great number of rapists on the loose just drooling at a chance to rape rape rape.

But we understand her agenda, the facts don't matter, what matters is that there seems to be some reason why we need to continue honing in on power over men. We may disprove her numbers, in fact, we might find the numbers to be considerably lower than what she says, but the justification survives fact checking: No matter what the real numbers are, we can all agree that there is an epidemic of sexual assault against women, and it's a big problem, and so we should keep working towards fixing it.

It's propaganda. It's high-balling on purpose.

So her solution, the app that turns crime reporting into a social media app, what does it really achieve?

This is where we must look at these actions through the lens of understanding feminism's end goals.

The first question we need to ask is, why is it so darn fucking hard to get women to just report a crime when it happens? There seems to be a strange mismatch between what we're told about sexual assault, what we're told are the number of victims, and the failure of literally anybody to actually act on these attacks that are supposedly happening to everybody.

If we truly have an uncontrolled rape epidemic, there would be riots in the streets, there would be massive numbers of women at police stations giving every detail they can to find safety. They would confide in their friends, and THEY'D NEVER GO OUT ALONE AGAIN, ESPECIALLY TO A COLLEGE PARTY. So why aren't these things happening?

If women really were targets of this heinous amount of crime... wouldn't it be easier to get them to report it? Why is it like pulling teeth just to get women to report all this crime that's obviously happening daily? Why does it seem like women are working against themselves by hiding all of this, willfully ignoring that there are real, punishable crimes happening against them every single day?

Of course feminists know it's not happening.

There is no rape epidemic. There aren't millions of assaults and rapes going unreported.

It's impossible to get the reporting numbers higher because there's nothing more to report.

I would venture a guess, that if we count false accusations, the actual reporting numbers are close to 180% - 200% the actual sexual assault rate. That means we don't have a reporting issue, we have a false reporting issue.

So what's the goal with this app?

Isn't it obvious with the numbers? Women use false reports, not because they think they can get a conviction, but because convictions aren't what they're after. Feminism is a system of power and control over men, and one of the biggest methods for this control is social shame and ostracization.

It's no secret that going against the mainstream hive-mind is a crime punishable by losing friends, family, and your job. It's no coincidence that the mainstream hive-mind just happens to align with the feminine-imperative. Our culture is feminine-primary, we serve the feminine.

So this app is just another power grab to put in the toolbox of feminism's power over men. The goal isn't to increase the report number, or increase convictions. Their goal is to increase men's liability for interacting with women, handing even more control over men to women via public shame and ostracization, with a convenient phone app to secretly build a anti-male database that can be used whenever a man doesn't do as a woman pleases, or whenever she feels regret for any decision she had made, and she can do it without all the muss and fuss of having to actually report a crime!

Up until now, the social shame method has been effective, but spotty and difficult. High profile rape cases (Duke team, mattress girl, etc) have ruined men's lives well before they're found not-guilty. So feminists know it can work. But what's missing is cohesion, saftey, privacy, and ease of use for the average woman.

There is still some risk in becoming a false rape whistle blower. Going to the police with no proof will rarely end up in a conviction and won't have the intended effect they want... they need something stronger, more visible. They can't just jump on facebook and declare "Mike" is a rapist without taking some blowback to their own credibility, at least not yet. So they build a social network dedicated specifically to social shaming and destroying of men, and make it to protect women.

Their goal is to build a social network for women to control men through false rape accusations.

This is not the last time you'll hear about it.


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Title Feminists know they can't get sexual assault convictions when they're made up or have no proof. Feminism continues marching towards their goal of absolute power: TED TALK Jessica Ladd: The reporting system that sexual assault survivors want
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Date 17 March 2016 05:34 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor145 points146 points  (24 children) | Copy

1 in 5 Women will be sexually assaulted during their college career.

So fuck it. Why not create the ultimate safe-space and just segregate the schools? Men on one campus and woman on another. Why have we not once heard this suggestion from the feminists?

So what's the goal with this app?

To institutionalize every male. They would have no problem with every man having spent some time behind bars and then under the watchful eye of long paroles and sex offender registries. Our rights would be limited by law. Our movements under the control of the police and communities. This IS the endgame for these nuts.

[–]PostingIsFutile79 points80 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why not create the ultimate safe-space and just segregate the schools?

It's been suggested before. They flip out at the idea of separate spaces for men. They know male places mean they lose control of the conversation.

This isn't about preventing rapes. They have no interest in undermining their own grievance industry. It's about providing women with consequence-free tools to use against men.

[–]NecroticFury59 points60 points  (3 children) | Copy

its because men do better in male only spaces where healthy competition and action based learning is involved. The strong males and up helping the weaker ones and in the end the entire class does better.

Im pretty sure segregated schools report all male classes preform more efficiently and produce better preforming students overall.

[–]Poldonis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. Went to an all male hs with a few guys I grew up with. Most of the people I went to grade school but went to public hs are either in jail, military (often times to get away from drugs) or cutting grass in the summer while they still live with mom and dad 8 years later.

There is a huge difference in the outcomes. Very lucky to have gone to the right school.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This isn't about preventing rapes. They have no interest in undermining their own grievance industry.

Right? If you fix the problem, their power completely vanishes. Shockingly, they don't want that.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

We are already institutionalized. Some of us just know where the exercise room is and have access to the commissary.

[–]2awalt_cupcake12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Funny. I always saw public schools as a prison.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

If these numbers were real, why wouldn't everyone's mommy be warning them about their experience in the past? Women can't shut their fucking yappers, how is it they're all able to remain tight lipped on this one topic?

[–]netherlanddwarf5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm legitimately getting scared after reading this. After working in the corporate world I can see women really don't have a conscious and could care less if someone other than they cared about was left in the dust.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

oh man they are fucking vicious

[–]vaelamin16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

LMAO COULD YOU IMAGINE AN ALL FEMALE CLASSES. Oh man they would come out dumber. Im all for this idea.

[–]meh61327 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

A lot of (non-state) schools around the world are single sex. Both genders do fine. Women come out no dumber than their co-ed counterparts. They do, however, tend to find it harder to adjust to a world in which half their peers are not women.

[–]vaelamin12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Thats very interesting. I read this article some months back about a women who ran a all female firm and it was a complete shit show. I wonder why such a difference?

[–]meh61313 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not a difference -- the findings are agreeing with my assertion. In academia, one can be an island. In the real world, cooperation becomes more important than individual effort.

[–]1james-watson14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

School isn't about doing value added work. It's about rote learning, repetition, and doing what you're told. Females excel at this.

[–]tiny_d3v1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because there's no diversity in opinion so rational thought flies out the window

[–]Gawernator5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't most Colleges used to be male or female only??

[–]fakenate11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I wonder what the sexual assault rate is on women only campuses like Bryn Mawr?

[–]jdksn51 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

It does seem very strange. If the amount of rape feminists claim is happening is actually happening you would think there would be a huge demand for single sex campuses?

As it stands right now I would like a men's only campus where I could go and not have to worry about ending up the subject of a witch hunt like the Duke lacrosse guys or the UVA guys.

I'll meet women outside of school and not have to worry about being in anyone's crosshairs.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Neither of my false accusations were in school, they were trying to extort things from me.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal76 points77 points  (16 children) | Copy

So, TED talks have gone to shit, I see.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother43 points44 points  (2 children) | Copy

They've been going to shit for a while now

[–]TheSelfGoverned12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah. The golden age of TED talks was the first 12-24 months, before all the idiots jumped on the bandwagon.

TEDx still has decent speakers from time to time. You have to wade through a lot of garbage, though, since there are so many.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

before all the idiots jumped on the bandwagon.

Before it was coopted by elites to peddle their agendas.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, it's amazing they'll just pump this stuff out without checking any of the facts.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You mean like TV did for decades already?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely.

TED was supposed to have some factual basis though, we know TV and the established media is a lost cause. Now TED too.

[–]CSMastermind4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I got really into TED back in 2009. I went through the archives and watched every single talk. I've kept up and watched every new talk as they're released. Over the last year and a half they've started push the "social justice" agenda hard.

They still put out good stuff but one third to one fourth of the talks now are about social justice. This mirrors the trend of the SJW stuff invading college campuses over the last two years. This thing is going to hit like a tidal wave.

[–]brooklynzoo23 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

What I'm constantly wondering these days, is how much longer are we going to ride this SJW wave before we see considerable blow back from moderate people that are told any form of dissent is analogous to harassment?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i've been thinking about this too and I don't think it will ever happen (though I really hope I'm wrong).

google the article: "The war on women is real" written by Gavin Mcinnes

I could only stomach the first half dozen paragraphs before I had to go throw up but it basically takes every problem caused by feminism and comes up with a way to blame it on conservatives and therefore justifying the need for even MORE feminism

i think MORE FEMINISM will always be the solution

[–]fullhalf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

no society has gone to shit. every dissenter of radical feminism is fiercely stomped on by the sjws. the first was probably the president of harvard who had to step down because he said maybe women didn't like engineering so much and that's why there weren't so many female engineers. you would think that if they loved it so much, they would've established a female only engineering school and directly compete with men. since women are equal to men right? a female engineering school that was highly selective would have no problems competing. they would be founding tech companies out the wazoo and raping every company out there. oh wait, that doesnt happen.

fact of the matter is, for every 50 great male engineers, there's maybe 1 great female one. so they do exist but they wouldnt be in so many leadership positions if it werent for affirmative action. someone like marisa mayer was probably just a great people manager. she was riding the google wave and just directing the smartest people in the world. when put into a real position like ceo of yahoo. she can't get anything right.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (12 children) | Copy

Combine it with 'Yes means Yes' and you have something, because we all know that that measure was nothing but a bald-faced attempt to hand complete power over relationships to women. Anybody who looks for a yes at each step, and multiple times during intercourse, will never have sex with a woman because he is a complete turn-off. Feminists know this, they know that men have to ignore the 'yes' business because women demand it. But once he does so, as far as the college is concerned he has actually committed 'rape' and can be thrown out. All it needs is little innocent girlie to file a report, like if Chad doesn't stick around afterwards, or doesn't buy her what she wants. To make double sure it works, all Chad's ONS can get her friends to input into this app as well, and Bob's your uncle?

Justice? what is that?

Men need to hit these universities where it hurts. Boycott those that support 'yes means yes' and choose others instead. Maybe women can make up the numbers and hence the fees, but good universities rely on their rankings, and without men the ranking will tank.

[–]thrway131219 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy

As a guy currently contesting a false title IX allegation at a university, I'm kicking myself for not seeing the message between the lines when we were lambasted with 'yes means yes'/sexual misconduct training on arrival.

The worst part is that my indiscrimination regarding university choice may be the death of my college career as any actions taken against me will be permanently attached to my transcript.

TL;DR fuck school-based courts and their obscenely diminished requirements of evidence since their decision could effectively make me a felon in the eyes of all universities.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sue them. Learn from the other cases where this bullshit has been done. Investigate ways to punish her, too. Women should not get away without consequences for making false accusations.

[–]Rimeheart0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can go to a different school and abandon that old transcript. Never mention your time there make up shit about it being lost years some how.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

bad advice, its akin to fraud in their eyes if you get caught. you could lose so much more time and money if this goes bad. litigation is the wiser road. action against the false accuser may be impossible, but the school is an easy target which cannot hide (with deep pockets)

think of yourself as one of leonidas men. You must FIGHT now or sparta will fall

[–]marplaneit7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

I would love to see a male only college... Having the best grades, and bitches going crazy wanting to join.

[–]meh61310 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of engineering/technical departments are effectively, male-only.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well, that is exactly what we had, and you see what has happened in making those colleges co-ed. So now I support single-sex education, just to ensure that, first, boys/men get an education, and second that it can be in a form best suited to male learning modes.

I see no justification whatsoever in universities trying people for genuine criminal acts such as rape, not using proper legal process. It isn't the same as them doing so for having a microwave in the dorm, as in the example given in the other post.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh....now you get the platform feminist excel at "Men are actively forming their little cliques while keeping women out"

Then we will have another historical date to remember the first semester that your said school's first round of female freshmen got in.

[–]2Archterus4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Here is a marketing opportunity for GLO. A T shirt with Yes Means Yes Means Tank Your Rank. (men going elsewhere). With an appropriate college logo attached.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the huffingpost headlines the following day:

GLO tells boys not to go to schools that don't let them rape

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the yes means yes thing would be great if they made it so that EVERY single time 2 people that attend a university has sex, they have to file it. it would go into a secret file unless someone is accused of rape then it will be opened. this means no woman can ever falsely accuse another male student of rape. every male student should be smart enough to get that on file before having sex. if he doesn't, he automatically commits rape. this way, a woman has no choice but to get it filed if she ever wants to have sex. everybody wins actually. nobody gets falsely accused ever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

its basically MGTOW on a local scale. it'll never happen though because as the percentage of men decline, the women will get hornier and then it will become an even more attractive place to men despite the danger

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (10 children) | Copy

Of course 2 girls can conspire to accuse 1 man of rape, plaster it on social media and now we have a "guilty regardless of whether or not you're innocent" situation.

[–]maxrp 18 points18 points [recovered] | Copy

A new way to ruin guys easier. Everything is more "justified" on feeling, if the girl knows he didn't sexually assult her but has some non-sexual grievence against him, she can still log him on the app knowing that if hes ever done bad to another girl then he probably "deserves it", right? except the other reporting will be made up too by some bent bitch.

Once some innocent mens lives have been ruined the police will eventually start ignoring this bullshit app, we just need to sacrifice a few of our brothers first (likely the nice guys who never even talk to girls and have the most value to contribute to the workplace)

[–]fingerthemoon8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

What are you talking about? Women are wonderful. They aren't vindictive, manipulative, passive-aggressive back stabbers.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points | Copy

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[–]SgtBrutalisk5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

2 girls, 1 rape.

[–]icecow4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Of course 2 girls can conspire to accuse 1 man of rape, plaster it on social media and now we have a "guilty regardless of whether or not you're innocent" situation.

More specifically this would happen a lot: Woman gets mad at man (he dumped her, already going out with someone else, or such). Woman approaches other woman he is currently dating and tells her she was raped by him and that she reported it on this new website. Now the girl currently dating him knows she has a nuclear option. And what are the chances she'll use it on him in these modern times. Pretty damn good. The girls are an instant team doing what they love to do best.

I don't think it's that hard for a some women to get 3-4 women to report rape just because... patriarchy, or fun, or to expand their entitlements.

[–]says_harsh_things0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I think there are plenty of opportunities for abuse, but girls that are dating a guy and the guys ex girlfriend are about the last two people on earth I would ever call a 'team'.

[–]icecow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It doesn't even have to be an ex-girlfriend. I really doubt every woman that made charges against Bill Cosby was legit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

until they break up. have you ever seen two of your exs drink wine together at a party talking about all your faults? its fine as long as neither of them are fucking you anymore

[–]fullhalf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

with feminists, it's basically anything except proof that she got raped is proof. lol. anything except fucking reporting it when it happens and not flirting with the guy afterwards is rape. if she waits 1 year and flirts with him in the meantime, it's definitely rape.

[–]TheOpposingView 37 points37 points [recovered] | Copy

This app is immensely dangerous.

If a woman feels scorned/annoyed/whatever, she can now file a police report from her phone, eliminating the need to actually talk to the police and thus decreasing the "reality" of her accusation. I guarantee girls will casually submit claims to this app that they would never have done if they had to go through the formal process which would convey the seriousness of a false rape accusation (we can hope).

It will be very common for two girls to "feel weird" or "regret" and submit, casually, a claim to this app. Now a man has been accused by two half hearted women. But it is official and real. How will they respond when the man is arrested and they are forced into the legal process? Will they recant? The damage is done. Will they double down, emboldened by their "ally"? So now regret sex has become "definitely rape" backed up by a new friend.

This is app is dystopic. If it catches on, it will be the end of sex for anyone except the most absolutely irresponsible and foolish.

[–]ether_reddit11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

We need pre-coital legal agreements that clearly spell out consent, and the expected outcome of anything surprising like an STD or a pregnancy. Now that's an app I could really get behind.

[–]fingerthemoon9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Won't work because 'he forced me to sign'. Could even be used against you as evidence of premeditated rape.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Add a requirement the consent be given via PKI digital signature and the two devices being used must be separated by at least 1000 feet.

PKI provides non-repudiation (two factor authentication) and the physical distance separation provides lack of coercion.

[–]ether_reddit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh god. No one's forcing you to put your twat out there either.

[–]says_harsh_things3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wonder though - if you want to file a police report, don't you have to do it in person at the station?

I mean what does the app actually do when they claim to report the incident to the police? Send an email?

If police departments accept the report from some app rather than a sworn statement from someone in person it will be a dark day, but I personally don't see that happening.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I personally don't see that happening.

When Anita appears on UN to cry bullying, I thought that it was an ONION News, too.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Will they double down, emboldened by their "ally"? So now regret sex has become "definitely rape" backed up by a new friend.

if the man is any kind of celebrity, nothing what the women say will matter anymore. To even be accused of false rape is enough to have a man lose careers, friends, and family.

Media will swoop in at this stage, and then the whole thing is an autopilot to hell.

[–]no_face56 points57 points  (3 children) | Copy

So all you need to discredit this app is for 1000 folks to enter 'Obama'

[–]Mintaka78 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's hilarious. 4chan would have a field day.

[–]1aguy015 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea this will be trolled to hell.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (10 children) | Copy

I'm always stuck scratching my head when people give me numbers as they pertain to unreported incidents. How can you possibly speak in confidence about percentages, etc, when you have nothing to draw them from? The whole reason we have those in other contexts is because we have numbers reported to some trustworthy institution to draw them from. If they're unreported how can you POSSIBLY know how many of them happen, let alone any percentages, etc.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

How can you possibly speak in confidence about percentages, etc, when you have nothing to draw them from?

I see this a lot in the social sciences.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

But she did draw them from something - her ass. How do you know when a feminist is lying? Her lips are moving.

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy

I wouldn't really say that. In order to lie, you have to know the truth and form an intent to deliberately obscure it.

Feminists neither know nor care about facts, truth, evidence, or reality.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

this is actually a really good point

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

It's true of any ideologue. Feminists, misogynists, democrats, republicans, racists, affirmitive actioneers, and yes, even some people here on TRP.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

like milo said, the progressives use every tactic and every dirty trick they accuse the right wing religious of using when they were the mainstream

[–]1aguy011 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Supposedly the numbers come from the number of women who call rape support lines and admit they didn't report the rape. Whether that means they never end up reporting it or they just wanted advice before doing so I don't know.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

so basically there are even MORE unreported rapes than we realize because what about the ones that don't call the support lines?

you have to factor that in too. turns out 1/5 is actually a conservative under estimate for campus assaults

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of it is self-reported studies, which are of real, but limited value.

I believe that number. Report rate of sexual assaults among men is also low.

However, "sexual assault" can be anything from someone saying to you "I want to fuck you until you can't sit for a week," a boob/butt grab, or yeah, rape. So the problem is still fuzzy as ever.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You lost this one , bro. You actually try to inject actual statistical knowledge inside feel feelz garbage

[–]nodoxsavefreespeech 17 points17 points [recovered] | Copy

This is scary AF. How easy would it be for two girls to collude and fuck a guy's life up just because they felt like being nasty?

It's going to come down to forms and waivers. How much will THAT kill the moment?

[–]1theoctopuss13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

Most men will stop having sex if it become too much of a hassle or risk. The men that will not stop having sex don't give a shit about the law, which in turn genrates tingles.

Rinse and repeat

[–]Gorech1ld8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Most men will stop having sex if it become too much of a hassle or risk.

I hope that's what fucking happens. This system and relationship between men and women is just gonna keep spiraling out of control as long as men are still willing to get their dicks wet and women use that to their advantage to fuck them over. I know society as a whole doesn't give a fuck about the common man, but sweet jesus there has to be a fucking breaking point somewhere. When it gets to the point where sex is a legitimate gamble in many ways, there has to be some sort of reform to make things fair.

It's funny though, looking back in the good ol' 70s of the so-called "sexual revolution" where things were going so smooth and no complaints were made about "consent", but it's gotten so dangerous now with it being the focal point of a mythical rape epidemic. A few feminists have even talked about "stare rape".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

but the women wont care because they all get to keep having as much sex as they want. the only difference is they will be having it with the top 15%, then the top 5%, then the top 2% of men, etc. it will never stop until every human being alive has the same father

[–]DysfunctionalBrother0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe that's why the elite have been allowing this feminist agenda to go this far.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

in feminist-speak

SEEE!>!>!>!>!!?!?!?!?! PATRIARCHY HURTS MEN TOO

[–]says_harsh_things-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see your point but pregnancy and stds are far more permanently life altering consequences than a false rape accusation and that doesn't stop guys from fucking.

[–]johnchapel22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy

Has anyone ever considered just how weird of a statistic "1 in 5 women get raped in college" is?

I mean, right off the bat, its not true. But, what if you don't go to college? Do you have to live on your own or what if you commute? Does it change if you're in a dorm room or just a house on campus? Does the statistic change depending on the school or is it just 1 in 5, oxford to Yale?

[–]yoghurtorgan14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

The number comes from a study of sexual assault on campuses done by Mary Koss in 1985 for Ms. Magazine. Noone has been allowed to change it.

Imagine going to your collage advisor and saying as a Man I want to disprove that stat for a PHd or masters. I doubt you would be allowed to or that no man has had the balls to do it. It would certainly get you famous and set back feminism.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't ask questions, something something shitlord.

[–]mugatucrazypills2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

it's the same janitor dude doing all the crime ... if you commute you'll be fine.

[–]fullhalf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

another way to look at it is, if 1 in 5 people who crossed the street got hit by a car, what would really happen? there would be a national emergency. 1000s of engineers would have to come together to figure out why because 1 in 5 would be millions right.

actually the rape study was a small one where they ask like 100 women on a certain university if they have ever been sexually assaulted. they count things like getting their ass slapped. so from that, they extrapolated for all colleges and like the telephone game, eventually sexual assault became rape.

[–]says_harsh_things0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Does the statistic change if changed her mind afterwards when he wouldn't call her back?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes, its called "ignore rape" haven't you heard?

no of course not because you're busy raping women.

stop it.

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[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (13 children) | Copy

Dudes can use this system to fuck up the lives of the Chads who fuck all the women. Every time you see some Chad at a party or club get drunk you have the opportunity to do some damage.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

We basically live in 2016 Salem witch trials now

[–]2awalt_cupcake2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not much of a trial more of a hanging

[–]2Overkillengine1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing like a lynching to show how progressive one is.

[–]Troll_Name17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Weak betas will use it to launch nukes at the man who fucks their oneitis.

[–]FerociousOreos2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Throughout this entire thread, your post is the only one with truth in it.

[–]fingerthemoon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is very real. Everyone secretly hates an attractive successful man. The women he rejects hate him. The men who are jealous hate him. Even the women he fucks hate him. The only people who don't hate him are other attractive successful men who are getting their balls drained. But even that can turn quickly when there is competition.

It's lonely at the top.

"She walked into the room on the arm of my best friend, I knew whatever happened our friendship would end" - Sting - Saint Augustine In Hell

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

It might be fun to drive someone to suicide from the safety and comfort of internet anonymity.

[–]ReclaimingFeminity4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Not really. Anonymity doesn't exist if all the bereaved would need is a subpoena from whatever medium you used. Once they have your handle and IP address, you're fucked.

Edit: fuck mobile

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies!

[–]putinbusch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you do the gui in visual basic

[–]says_harsh_things1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

When I was in college, I was chad, I just didn't realize it. I just thought that was what college was like.

Someone tried starting a rumor amongst our friends that I was gay. You know, one of those gay guys that has lots of girls over all the time? Anyway turns out the guy who tried to start it - I guess I took his oneitis. I had no idea either since neither of them mentioned it. Girl didn't give two shots about him and he wasn't man enough to tell me he was pining over her.

So yeah, betas definitely pull this shit.

[–]Gawernator7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

So couldn't a bunch of guys make these "escrow" reports all against a female? Nah, doubt much would happen.

This is so blatantly anti-american/anti due-process that it's revolting.

[–]The__Tren__Train40 points41 points  (7 children) | Copy

im guessing the app doesn't allow you to input muslim names..

because that would be racist

[–]prodigy2throw27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hmmm an app to report Muslims of suspicious behaviour and when two people report the same Muslim it goes to the cia. Wonder if that's an idea feminists would go for.

[–]fingerthemoon6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a pretty good analogy to show the problems with her idea.

[–]darkrood1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No, because Islam is a peaceful religion.

All those terrorists, they are not true muslims.

True Muslims do not kill innocent.

Btw, where's your home address for me to send my death thre... concerned letter to?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

and feminism isn't about man hating

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Since like almost every Muslim Man or his brother is called Muhammad, that app will fill up really fast

[–]mugatucrazypills4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

the prophet will be facing a section IX tribunal real quick

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

woe to the sketch artist in that room

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I can't believe I have been so restrained. If 99% of rapists go free then nothing is holding me back. Its Cologne 365 on college campuses from here on out!

[–]ContreToutChacal5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why not make an app for women to make an audio or video recording of all the rapes they are the victims of and help convict the millions of ignoble men who are commiting them daily?

Nah, let's make a twitter justice system instead!

"We can create a world where there's a real deterrent to violating the rights of another human being," she says.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

The fucking irony in her statement.

[–]SgtBrutalisk12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is no irony there; she doesn't consider men human beings.

[–]2Overkillengine6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Wallets don't have rights.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

honestly, i'd rather be raped up the chuff 77 times each by 77 angry jihadists than have my life destroyed by a false rape allegation

[–]maxrp 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy

"1 in 5 Women will be sexually assaulted during their college career."

bare in mind "sexual assult" could be anything from a girl not liking an ugly guy asking her out, or a guy's arm accidently brushing against her walking along the corridior, or any sexual discrimination such as light hearted innuendo joke about computer parts she over heard.

"The subtext here is that she thinks women are waiting 11 months because they're either afraid of coming forward, or afraid that coming forward with no proof won't instantly put the guy in jail. "

because it takes 11 months for a toxic lie false-rape to spread through enough people to reach critical mass as though it had happened, then launch the assult on an innocent guy with everyones support.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

The grape vine aint thick. Word of rape spreads like wild fire.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

omg its so true i just got nauseous reading this

[–]DysfunctionalBrother19 points20 points  (12 children) | Copy

It's going to be a bad day for feminists when men become the very thing they accuse them of being. It's like if you keep calling someone a monster eventually they will become a monster.

Trust me, it's only a matter of time until dudes get sick of this rape calling bullshit and we smack these women back into submission and never let feminism be a thing in our society again.

[–]Manducor 9 points9 points [recovered] | Copy

So agree and amplify? After all Feminism is nothing more than the conglomeration of shit-tests.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

It's much more than shit tests. It's a way for women to get access to resources they haven't earned via pleasing her man. Why? because women of this generation are spoilt brats. They've had such easy lives and they have been taught they shouldn't have to please their man to gain his favour, he should just love her the way she is which is just bullshit.

That's how women did it in the past. They were attracted to the man either because he was alpha and had resources that she desired or she couldn't get the high value guy so she went with the best she could get. She seduced and chased him to make him love her. She supported him and she reaped the rewards of pleasing him.

Feminism wants to make a society where men are submissive and women are dominant, where it's illegal for men to say anything bad about women and they can do what they want without consequences, and if men resist that, it's a crime against society that they can be locked up for. The third wave has been given so much all their lives that not having slaves seems unfair to them, we call this princess syndrome.

Agree and amplify what? That men are rapists and we should start acting accordingly?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah thats pretty much exactly what he said except in a single sentence instead of 4 paragraphs

[–]saibot830 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's the perfect tool for governments to keep people (men) in their place.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And to keep the average male population's dicks in their pants so they don't have lots of kids. I think after a certain point there will be so much that is illegal dudes just wont give a shit anymore, people wont be able to cope and will rebel against it. There is only so much you can control a population and on top of that if lets say our energy runs out in a few decades there would be no way the population would be controllable after that.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No no A&A as in Yes We Are Hitler!

[–]fingerthemoon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the main problem with the liberal mindset. It starts with emotion and good intentions but is entirely devoid of intelligent consideration of the repercussions.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

All of nature is a free market. It doesn't have collectivist central planning. Regardless of how much people try to control the market ultimately it corrects itself. We are part of nature whether we believe it or not.

Better pay the piper, but don't pay the ferryman until he gets you to the other side.

[–]WarmApfelPi0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

A saying comes to mind. If you're going to do the time, might as well do the crime.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Applies to the everything feminists accuse men of. Men don't discriminate against women, they are biased in favour of them, but since we will be accused of running a 'patriarchy' anyway we might as well do so.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean fuck if I'm gonna get charged for rape anyways...jesus christ.

[–]1PantsonFire12348 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

Sometimes I really wonder who these hard working feminists are that seem to put massive hours into this. All the girls I know are dumb airheads that sleep, work and fuck. My guess is that all the low SMV/Alpha Widowed/Angry entitled types are banding together. Then the lazy women who do get cock simply nod and "like" this stuff.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you mean putting massive hours into complaining, bitching, whining, moaning and acting the victim then yes. It's mostly white knights i would of thought that create these apps because they believe that women will want to sit on their laps afterwards.

[–]1PantsonFire12345 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah something tells me it's 1 god ugly highly educated cunt with around 10-50 WK's or SJW's in tow. Like a behave every queen has her subordinates.

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

They work at universities, think tanks, law centers, consulting firms, corporations in the "chief diversity officer" position, and other similarly bullshit places and positions.

I did a post a while back in another sub on how feminism in the 21st century isn't being driven by actual inequality, it's being driven by economics.

[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You mean consumerism? I could see anything drive feminism but inequality.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Mind educating me? I thought feminism in the long run would end up hurting the economy.

[–]NiceKicksGabe3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

There should be a consent app. Both parties log in and check box everything they intend to do/did.

Kiss? Check. Handjob? Check. Blowjob? Check. Cunnilingus? Check. Thumb in butt? Check.

[–]ether_reddit4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If pregnancy occurs, there will be an abortion. If you discover you have an STD, you will inform me. etc.

[–]2awalt_cupcake3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

South park did a skit on this

[–]says_harsh_things2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You get your cunnilingus consent form, brah?

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[–]Mythicalflavour3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah my favourite over used statistic. 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted during their college career.

Which I might add, would put college campuses on par with the democratic republic of Congo where rape is used as a weapon and there is rampant sexual violence.

Guardian for source.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger31 points32 points  (13 children) | Copy

It's the patriarchy, man. Every time some stupid woman at my firm complained about getting raped after hours by one of the horny young associates, which was over a thousand times, we'd all get together in the board room and laugh about it, because women are inferior sub-humans ruled by the patriarchy, so crimes against them don't count.

There is literally no point to any woman, anywhere, ever reporting a rape for real, using real legal channels, because nobody will believe her -- that is the message that this woman is spreading to all women everywhere. That rape victims shouldn't bother, because patriarchy.

[–]prodigy2throw7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey!

Rule number 1 of the Patriarchy: Don't talk about the Patriarchy.

[–]russianwomenexpert2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think that, unfortunately, the emancipation and feminism did after all their dirty deed and managed to poison a significant part of female consciousness. There is a lot of information about feminism, this ugly phenomenon of the last few centuries, so I won’t repeat it. I only would like to quote a statement of His Holiness Patriarch Kirill (Russia): "A phenomenon which is called feminism I consider very dangerous, because feminist organisations proclaim pseudo-freedom of women that should first of all occur outside marriage and outside the family. In the centre of feminist ideology is not a family, not bringing up children, but some other function of women which often is put in a contrast with family values . Perhaps it is not a coincidence that most leaders of feminism are unmarried women. I noticed this while working in Geneva at the World Council of Churches. The feminist theme was only beginning to develop then. Being still a relatively young man, I was surprised by the fact that the leaders of the so-called feminist movement, with very few exceptions, were not concerned with family responsibilities. All the subtleties of human relationships - love, loyalty, caring, responsibility – were reduced by the ideologists of feminism to social, political, monetary relations and to the distribution of power and influence. I believe that this is a dramatic misconception of this phenomenon."

Western values brought once robust feminist movement to a complete absurdity, which, in turn, is rejected by normal men. But even with such a significant decay of the society that we have got today, sensible people still remain, and the fairer sex is no exception! Therefore, men from all over the world are increasingly turning their attention to the post-Soviet countries where such women live. Russian women are much less demanding than Western ones, and often their ultimate dream is the teetotal husband and fed children. They are able to work, to keep their household and still manage to look well. And finally, the most important and compelling argument in favour of Russian brides – they are well educated and possess a fairly high intelligence which facilitates their adaptation in a foreign country and is often a subject of pride by foreign grooms. Needless to say, that no other woman of the world possesses such qualities.

[–]chrisindub0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting comment considering Russia isn't even in the top ten worldwide for average IQ.

And Russia barely made it into the top 30 list of average IQ worldwide.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dave Chappelles Love Contract is the only way to protect yourself from false rape accusations

[–]KnowBrainer8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

drooling at a chance to rape rape rape

I laughed too hard at this. Perhaps the best thing we can do to as men to maintain the power is to stop participating in their emotional games. If your friend is a rapist, good on him. No need to catch feels over it. Sometimes you just gotta rape. He's still your buddy. Let the women get all worked up, and if they band together to blacklist some dude.... he can just rape them. No worries.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

you mean tell white knights not to white knight?

hahahahah good one. they've been brainwashed since day 1. They are follower bitches. Good luck on that..

[–]mugatucrazypills8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

what about long haul truckers ? all they do is kill hookers all day long, it's a wonder anything gets delivered to stores at all

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most of us were brainwashed from day one too

[–]prodigy2throw6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

These days false police reports aren't even necessary. Just go on Twitter or Facebook, put the man on blast and let white knights take it from there.

I wonder if we'll eventually see a trend where reported rape drops significantly but rape accusations on social media go up like crazy. Then people will attribute this mismatch in reporting to women being afraid to come forward.

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I wonder if we'll eventually see a trend where reported rape drops significantly but rape accusations on social media go up like crazy. Then people will attribute this mismatch in reporting to women being afraid to come forward.

You haven't been paying attention, that is exactly what has happened.

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It is not just the app that is dangerous, it is the entire discussion. They are not interested in securing rape convictions but they will succeed in making it easier for girls to get guys charged. Girls who have a grievance against a guy, or who get buyer's remorse in the weeks/months/ years/ decades that follow her act of consent then have time to hampster away their consent. They make a note in the app for future use in case the guy ever makes enough money to become a viable target in the future.

In Australia we have had two recent rape cases. In one the guy was acquitted at the initial trial, in the second the guy was convicted of rape and sentenced to 5 years but was released on appeal. Google Luke Lazarus to read a very sad story about a poor young guy's life being effectively ruined by false rape allegations. The feminists and SJWs also attacked high profile people that gave Luke a reference in court. They tried to name and shame mayors, senior priests and anyone who dared support a man now proven innocent by the courts .

This only going to get worse, not better. In the future men will need to record consent before even approaching. Even with a recording of consent we will hear stories of "I don't remember recording consent 12 years ago but I do remember the drink he gave me a drink which tasted funny earlier that night".

Recording consent won't be enough protection, you will also need to perform a home drug test to make sure that she is not too drunk or drugged thanks to you or some other rapist who drugged her drink at the bar before you met her. You will need a report from her psychiatrist that details that she is not under any current pressures or problems that might impair her ability to consent. If you have all three of these you can fax an application to the Ministry for wimmin seeking consent to kiss a girl. You will of course be aware that even though you get all of the proof and the application she has the right to withdraw her consent at any stage, before or after the act without informing you which will definitely show that you are a rapist in any future trial.

Indeed soon it will be a crime to deny an accusation of rape. This would add further distress to the victim and itself be an act of victim blaming. Denying rape accusations is the same as rape. Legal representation should not be allowed and the burden of proof should be shifted onto the man to prove consent. This will also be the only area of the law where the presumption of innocence is reversed and guilt is presumed unless consent can be positively proven by the accused. Given that consent can be withdrawn after the act then no defence would be possible. Finally no wimmin should ever be compelled to give evidence or suffer the indignity of cross examination. She has already been raped and asking her to give evidence or proof is further instituationalised abuse of the victim. This will be the future.

Unless....... Donald Trump wins the election

[–]1v1mebruh4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

Jesus christ, FUCK these stupid ass feminists. Time to move to a foreign country where this shit doesn't happen and women are happy to be faithful and loyal to their men.

[–]fingerthemoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There's no escaping it man because it's biology not social conditioning. Loyalty is a male construct evolved to facilitate male coalitions for defense and power. Women have every reason not to be loyal and evolved to be natural Machiavellians. Wherever you go AWALT.

Might as well except it. If fact, when you fully understand female psychology and can empathize with their imperative, you can love them again as they truly are. But don't ever trust them, or let your guard down.

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None are loyal and faithful, but you might find a non fem Country

[–]1v1mebruh2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Idk, in some countries women really are raised to be loyal to their men, not go out and be empowered sluts. Lots of Asian countries especially, basically any country who's culturally "old school" so to speak. Sure, some of them might turn out to be stupid hoes after being with you for a while, but the likelihood of you finding a woman who wants to please you and be loyal to you is much, much higher in these countries than places like the US and UK (pretty much any first world country honestly).

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hypergamy is universal nigga. They're all like that.

[–]fingerthemoon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meanwhile Jessica Ladd craves deep Alpha fuckings just like the rest of them

[–]fingerthemoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's probably riddled with persistent rape fantasies that just won't go away.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

the problem with sexual assault is that it's purely emotional. Was it rape... or was it consensual? purely emotional. purely emotional. Ask her after the fact, she might not be sure. Ask her 10 minutes later, she might say it was rape. Ask her 1 hour later, it might not be rape. Ask her 1 day later, it might be rape. And so on and so on.

Can you imagine if anything else in life was like that?

women can't even make up their mind on what to wear. Jesus christ.

[–]Rasalom72[🍰] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wonder if lesbians can use it? I mean, if you could use it against women as well?

[–]FreeRadical529 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't be silly, we all know there are minor misunderstandings between women all the time. No need to bring the law in the middle of two women. That's their business you homophobic misogynistic bigot!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I got my assed kicked growing up. I've been hit by females. I've been scammed on the street for money. None of it was brought to justice. Grow up you fucking babies. If you want to be treated like men, get ready for the fucking harsh realities.

The irony is these apps give the girl complete agency, which they won't use and will actually harm their witch hunt because it will put proof to their gossiping and made up stories. The next phase will be, "Why didn't you report it in the app?" "I was too scared to click buttons."

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

"Woe is me yack yack yack life is tough, buddy!!!!"

Only dinosaurs have life philosophies like that. Way out of touch.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Way out of touch.

You say that like being "out of touch" with today's complete and total mama's boys and little safe-space-pussies is somehow a bad thing.

Facing adversity builds character.

Wrapping people with a blanket and handing them cookies and warm milk and cuddly toys when they can't handle the stress of sitting in a first-world university classroom builds helpless and worthless little flesh bags.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How did this chick graduate from TEDx bullshit to actual TED?

[–]libglip1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women have to think about whether it was rape on average for about 11 months before reporting it.

This is one of those cases where the "average" means nothing at all. If I remember correctly, this statistic was derived from a study of something like two dozen rape cases, where two of them only reported after a delay of 20 years. All the others reported immediately, so, the "average" report delay was, yup, about 12 months.

(I think I saw this explanation in Christina Hoff Sommers's book Who Stole Feminism?)

[–]jace811 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I came across a post on /r/anarchism of all places the other day. Some guy was asking for advise on the best way to 'out' someone, who was 'high profile' , who his friend had accused of raping her. He wanted to know what would get the most hits/highest search itself in Google.

I suggested that they should contact the police and that women lie about this type of thing all the time.

I was banned and was told that I was banned because suggesting that women lie about rape is misogynistic and other commenters said I had been brain washed by MRA's. Lol

Anyway.. I have actually been accused of rape by someone I never even had sex with and one of the things I always said was "if I did do it, I'd want her to go to the police"..

I get that it wouldn't be pleasant to go through that process but if someone murdered your daughter would it be too hard to go through the process of convicting the murderer?

If you don't report a rape, at the time it happens, you're a fucking liar. That's all there is too it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

One word: MGTOW.

[–]sinnerFA1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why don't men have an APP that does the same thing, but for consent? And then crowd-source it to all the other men that have had consensual sex with the same girl. Then you can use it to target and Alpha the shit out of said girl pools.

[–]stawek1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cause it would never make it to AppStore. Also, while reporting a male on facebook as a rapist is OK, posting the name of a girl you had sex with would most likely be considered harassment or even equaled to revenge porn.

It would be damn good though, an app where male accounts are invisible (otherwise there'd be 90% bragging and not actual reeports), searchable by female's name with her n count clearly visible. Imagine the females going there and seeing themselves.

Of course, they'd have the right under data protection to remove themselves from database.

I wonder if false rape accusations victims have the right to remove those from facebook...

[–]beginner_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We at TRP should make an App where you can enter sexual encounters. You can then search in it to check if a woman is a slut or not. Of course no one would think to enter wrong stuff in it but who cares about the truth?

[–]Stythe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus this is terrifying. All it would take is 3 highscool girls with too much spare time to pick some guy and all make report ls on the app to ruin his life. Fuck these selfish idiots.

[–]1aguy011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If there's a 99% chance of getting away with rape I'd be raping errbody. Lower chances of getting stuck with a kid than consensual sex with a condom.

[–]jdksn53 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

We need a slut app where men can detail which girls put out and what sexual acts they did. That way if she lies to a new boyfriend and claims a low amount of partners he will be able to find out the truth.

[–]says_harsh_things1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That wouldn't be fair, because the men could just lie to ruin the woman's reputation.

Wait....hold on a second....

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Make money and fuck hookers.

[–]shineoneme0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There is a good chance this will get implemented if Hillary becomes president. Stay strong, my brothers.

[–]TheEnglishman280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Gotta love the women who will report a guy for "sexual assault" when they agreed to consensual sex and the next day they have buyers remorse....

[–]UCISee0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Now all they have to do is get together and decide that "Mike" is a rapist, all report him over the course of a few weeks/months and down goes Mike. There is a video in the Video Nuke link that describes this exact situation to a young kid. Kid gets tossed in jail cause he was plating multiple chicks at his school that all found out, got together, concocted a story, and went to the cops. Next thing you know their facebook history shows up and it's obvious they are trying to ruin the poor kids life. What about this app? I fuck this girl on monday and that girl on wednesday and they find out. Now they simply make one report on friday and another on tuesday and away I go. Sounds like a wondrous plan that will not have any consequences at all. Hooray for social justice.

[–]rognos 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

What if she could report Mike, and Mike was referred, anonymously, to confidential (attorney client level confidential), counseling. Not a "you are a rapist and need to be reprogrammed or punished" referral, a "Uh, Mike, let's talk about your approach to hooking up with drunk girls"

If Mike accepts counseling, that first report can't be used for criminal charges. A corrective, balance - stops hundreds of second girls from being assaulted/"assaulted", at the expense of the slow learners getting hit twice.

Of course this means that guys at those schools should log every sexual encounter. It's not optional. They all need journals of every girl. With details. I.e, Date, location, CONSENT, sex acts performed, witnesses, copies of text messages or emails saying how she needed a real man to give her a break from duty sex, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

And pictures of each position, with her smiling. Only way to guarantee. We need an app for that.

[–]fullhalf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this is fucking insane and this woman is just drumming up business for herself. her job is to make this shit a big deal to get funding and to get paid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Somebody drinks to the point where they can't remember what they were doing, remembers having sex and not saying anything to let the person they were with know that they didn't want to be doing it, and then that is framed as rape?

I mean, I'm not one of those guys who has sex with a drunk/passed out girl (my girl friend gets frisky when she's tipsy, and that's fine, but that's a different context-and feel free to call me on that if you disagree). But that said, I have friends (guys) who get/got drunk on weekends and would hook up, and sometimes they didn't remember everything that happened, and nobody says "You were raped because you were black-out drunk and some woman had sex with you!" People make bad choices when they are drunk, and THEY are the ones who are responsible for them. There is a reason people get charged with drunk driving: because each person is responsible for the choices they make!

If 'Hannah' had a crush on this guy, and was making herself available to him, and had already been drinking (not him shoving drinks down her throat) and her inhibitions were lowered and she had sex with this guy (who was likely also drunk making it mutual rape) and she sobers up halfway through and doesn't bother to fucking tell the guy that she's suddenly not into it, how is that an 'assault'? How is he a rapist?

Now men have to be mind readers to know if a girl changes her mind halfway through and doesn't bother to tell us? WTF?

I'm all for getting rape numbers down, but creating an app to report sexual assault? Sounds like psycho-exgfs would be abusing that in a heartbeat.

And why don't they make one for children? One study I read said 1-6 boys are sexually assault. And that isn't by the same standards as the '1-n-5' which is based on the question: Have you had sex when you are drunk (which a 'yes' = they were sexually assaulted). That is based on actual adults assaulting children.

[–]cavscout550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with everything except for one point.

You said: "Of course feminists know it's not happening. There is no rape epidemic. There aren't millions of assaults and rapes going unreported."

I disagree. I think some, possibly all of them have really been convinced they're victims by the tumblr way of making someone believe something. That being if EVERYBODY tells a little white lie thinking "Well my story is fudged a little bit (or totally made up) but that's fine because it's just one tiny lie. That guy totally would have raped me if he had the chance." and puts in on the Internet then you have a HUGE database of "documented" instances of rape. And sure, there might be a small percentage that are real but they're backed up by millions of lies. And everybody is thinking that they're the only ones that made it up. So they scroll through hours and hours of posts like "I was raped at age 11... and now I'm stepping forward." or "I was attacked IN PUBLIC today and the Patriarchy stepped in to defend HIM" and begin to believe it. So they contribute a little and receive overwhelming support. Then they start looking for something in real life to happen and nothing does. So they make something up and again receive HUGE praise and accolades. And they keep looking for something in real life. And nothing happens. So inevitably they have to come to terms with this.... or... OR twist reality to their own needs. Suddenly, being stared at becomes rape. Because when a proud, independent WOMYN wakes up, put on a pair of super short shorts and thinks "Ugh I'm going to get stared at today! Fucking men!" and then do, in fact, get stared at (because your ass is hanging out) and have just downloaded 15 hours of anti-men, rape is everywhere, tumblr bullshit into your brain suddenly there's a connection. "Rape... shorts... staring... Omg being stared at is rape. I was raped today!" and bam. They count themselves as a woman that was sexually assaulted. Because heaven forbid they don't get the attention that a woman who was ACTUALLY assaulted gets. And they really, really have convinced themselves of that. And their friends have helped that become reality in their minds. And they throw it on the Internet and people believe it and the cycle begins again. Which eventually escalates to the point of an entire TED Talks presentation. But who knows? Maybe I'm wrong and they know they're lying. Damn fema-nazis.

[–]PlanB_pedofile0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women have to think about whether it was rape on average for about 11 months before reporting it. (because that makes fucking sense)

Hmmm. So it takes her 11 months to figure out if sucking your dick and willfully swallowing was somehow against her will...... hamster inaction

[–]socialinjusticewar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

At what point do we start fighting back? I'm pretty sure the answer is "never", but maybe somebody besides me has some hope.

[–]lakalahehe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Any place on earth that is masculine primary and serves the masculine?

[–]catacamas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women have to think about whether it was rape

As a general rule of thumb, if you really have to think long and hard about 'whether it was rape' - it wasn't.

[–]meh613-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'll go through these points and show how they can be true. Mind you, I'm casting no judgement as to whether I agree with Ms. Ladd or not. So, without further ado:

1 in 5 Women will be sexually assaulted during their college career. (if this were actually true about any college, women wouldn't go to that institution, let alone parties at that institution)

This is what mathematicians call an axiom, it is informally known as a given. On this the rest of the postulates rest.

Less than 10% of sexual assaults are reported (we know this because?)

We assume that 1 in 5 women are sexually assaulted while in their college careers. We know how many women there are (well, I don't, but that information is readily available). Let's say there are 10 million. This means that 2 million women have been sexually assaulted. And we know how many are reported, because there are records. So, less than 200,000 are reported by this metric based on my axiom.

Only 6% of the reported sexual assault attackers spend any time in prison. (which of course means apparently 94% have escaped punishment, rather than might be innocent).

12,000 put in jail. No, it doesn't meant the rest escaped punishment. There are alternative punishments to prison. Not to slight sexual assault, but one doesn't go to jail for parking in the wrong spot. Rather, one is given a parking ticket. One pays it and goes on one's merry way.

Women have to think about whether it was rape on average for about 11 months before reporting it. (because that makes fucking sense)

I don' t see the relevance of having to think about whether you were sexually assaulted for 11 minutes or 11 months. So, I won't be addressing this point with the same rigour as I did the others.

In conclusion, Ms Ladd's work can only be true if you accept the scenario she sets up (1 in 5 college women are the victim of sexual assault). Whether this scenario is or is not true in the universe that she sets up is not to be questioned. This system of axioms and postulates and "proof" are only acceptable if the reader accepts the axiom is true. If you don't accept the axiom of a paper, stop reading it, because there's no way you'll be convinced of its conclusions.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It's the incremental nature of a slippery slope argument. Start your 'debate' on something innocuous or at least an accepted fact (without its supporting context). Then each statement builds on the previous one until you reach the finale.

The finale being something so absurd and outlandish that it's completely unreasonable on its own merits. But because it was reached for step by step, it's perfectly valid and should be acted upon immediately.

It's also known as the frog and the boiling pot of water.

[–]meh613-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

No, it's not, because the first claim is the most sensational, and the rest are more reasonable provided you accept the first. In this sense, it's more similar to a mathematical proof, with its axioms and postulates.

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