Why most of today's women aren't worthy of your commitment.

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If you're Machiavellian and understand women you will have no problem managing female bullshit. The real problem I think is most guys find the cherry just isn't sweet enough. That's to say, although YOU COULD manage her YOU'RE JUST NOT SUFFICIENTLY INCENTIVISED TO DO SO. Most women aren't worth the extra effort, simply enough. They take more than they give. For access to a vagina you have to:

  • Have her put all her worries and stress on you
  • Listen to her boring, empty, vapid social observations
  • Deal with her whining/being menstrual/insecure
  • Deal with her crazy whenever it rears its's head

And you have to deal with all that like a champ, stoically, because if you lose frame too much the relationship is fucked and she doesn't even want you anymore even though she's, to be quite blunt: an insufferable cunt. You pay so much in spirit and mental energy being in a relationship with a woman. Pussy can be had cheaper. If women have shit personalities, why do you want relationships with them? Most women have absolutely no personality that makes them worth commitment. What women don't seem to understand, flying off auto-pilot on their looks in youth, is that a hot tight body only attracts men, it doesn't keep them around. She will lose her beauty. You actually need to be mildly interesting and/or good-natured to be relationship material. So what do we do? We fuck and chuck.

Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of men would like a family - but it has to be with the right woman. Not a dim, boring, narcissistic empty shell of a human-being. Personally I rather never reproduce than put my children through the pain of being raised by a stupid, horrible, whiny self-entitled woman. I don't even care if she's good to the kids, if she's a cunt to me the kids will see that and it will affect them detrimentally. That's not how I imagine raising a family, you either DO IT RIGHT or you don't bother doing it at all.

LTRs should be mother material - most women nowadays aren't mothers because they deserve to be, but simply because they stopped taking their birth control. Too many whores are fucking dragging kids up nowadays, not raising them right - and that's why we have all the problems we do in society. Millennials are a mess because of divorce and single mothers. I don't want to put my kids through that bullshit. If she puts herself above family, she's not a woman I ever see as anything other than a hole to be used for my momentary leisure.

Not only is the reward lower, but the effort necessary is higher. So you're playing on a higher difficulty for a lower prize.

  • You have to be vigilant, you can't let your guard down or give into your kindness, because she will exploit it and see you as less for "showing weakness."

  • You have less sexual options than if you were single, this one woman is controlling your sexual preferences, and then she'll play games where she doesn't put out to control you. Basically, bitches weaponise your libido against you and then force you to listen to their feelings if you cant sufficiently dread/headfuck them. But if you stray to get your release then it's not her fault, it's yours, you're the evil one.

  • She knows you better so she's better at head fucking you. She'll press all your buttons, say shit plates wouldn't know. Say some shit about your mother, say some shit you told her about your childhood. Whatever. Basically any fucking thing you think is sacred she's going to use against you to "test you" and also because bitches are just plain crazy and hormonal and are going to lash out at some point. She's meant to be a partner but you can't even properly open up to her without her abusing that shit. And it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

  • Likewise as she knows you better she's more immune to your techniques/strategies/mannerisms. She will become immune to different gambits/coping mechanisms you use like a fucking disease growing resistant to antibiotics. So you need to change your shit up or it'll all fall apart.

  • You have to keep reinventing yourself and being inconsistent, or she gets bored and looks elsewhere for cock on the side. Society/her family will support her in this and she'll just rationalise you're a cunt.

  • You don't really get a break. You don't get to let your guard down. Because if you do she freaks out and fucks off. Momentary vulnerability can only be superficial/aesthetic in nature. If you're LEGITIMATELY VULNERABLE she will dry up and abandon you.

So the work you put in IS IMMEASURABLE and the reward is negligible. It's a terrible investment.


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Title Why most of today's women aren't worthy of your commitment.
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 314
Comments 207
Date 22 April 2016 01:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 93 points94 points  (36 children) | Copy

Have you been recording my life? I could swear this is my wife to a T. Perfect analysis. If anyone wants a reason to not get married, let me know, I will wear a go pro and let you watch about 48 hours of 1,000 reasons to stay single.

[–]mrbluesdude35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Haha that actually sounds pretty entertaining, I'd totally watch.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Typically, it isn't too entertaining for me. I do get some moments of awe in the audacity of some of the things she says or does, but mostly it is just frustrating. I can't make excuses for myself or her, but I do think there is a touch of mental illness going on on her behalf. Yesterday she tried to say about 4 or 5 things I am lazy about or never do and berate me. I didn't handle them like a master, but I did shut her down, and literally 10 minutes later I put my shoes on to go out to clean the garage some and she asks, " where are you going?"
"Away... It is your dream come true."
"I don't want you to leave, come watch TV with me."
"No, that is ok..." and I went to the garage for a couple of hours. I come back to her offering to go to a place I like to eat for dinner and her joking and playing. Her father is bipolar and she is 30. Apparently it tends to show itself in the late 20's or early 30's typically.

I am by no means a TRP master or even a novice, but I do use a few tools effectively. I have always struggled with being passive and I am no way a skilled orator. I can't come back at her with witty retorts, typically I am inclined to shoot back facts and truth, but we all know that doesn't work with women as they function outside the laws of all that. I do need to get a really good audio recorder. It could prove to make really good posts about what not to do with real world examples if I wrote up the transcript bi-weekly and posted here.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

From a purely entertainment point of view, I'd love to watch this. But protect your identity first and foremost. There are loads of sexually frustrated beta males who are looking to besmirch you on a personal level if they can.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

First, nice username.
Second, I don't know that I could ever go through with actually posting video of my life, or even hide a body cam or cameras in the house to capture her ridiculousness. I could however get a really nice audio recorder. I was thinking it might have some worth to record our interactions and make some posts of the transcripts as a 'What not to do'.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks, and audio might work/be safer but again, just be careful with it.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Would also watch. Please do?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If a company wanted to pay me, I would do it in a heartbeat, but we also know women put on a show for the camera. She plays the victim now, I couldn't imagine if a camera was on her, how it would go.

[–]gvivalover15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

put it on youtube. make bank

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ha, make bank for my strife? Only women pull that off effectively.

[–]BJS_16 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

1,000 reasons to stay single. Sounds like a good sitcom

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can use it, for royalties of course.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

When you legally marry a woman, you marry the state too. You become a cuckold of the government. It now has the right to decide what happens to you regarding your relationship. It's the dumbest shit to do.

If you want to have a wedding, have one. But don't sign shit and don't get legally married.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

getting married by a priest still is a binding marriage no?

[–]1Ill_mumble_that-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

no, there is an actual marriage license that is registered with the state. the priest has the power to sign the document along with you (similar to a notary) but if you don't send in that registration, you aren't legally married. Although this is for the U.S. I can't guarantee other countries are the same.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Words of wisdom. And anyone doubting that is naive.

[–]toalysium0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not true even a tiny bit. Better make damn sure you're not in a common-law marriage state.

Edit: Every state is different, and in Texas this would absolutely count as an informal marriage as defined in Texas Family Code Sec. 2.401, and would enable her to file for a divorce as in any other marriage.

DO NOT DO THIS if your intention is to avoid being legally bound.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good to know. I don't live in a common law state and didn't realize this was an issue.

[–]RedMoonAscendant2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

We now have 4 who want to see it.

If I was totally comfortable with going public, I'd also wear a gopro so you could see how I manage my wife like a champ. Unfortunately that'll never happen. Wage slavery is shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

It apparently was a very popular idea. I don't think I could ever go through with it, or even pull it off without her noticing the camera. I would have to spend a fortune on hidden cameras, which could be worth it more come divorce time, but that is another story.

If you could see my goings on, I think the response would be a mixture of, "what a beta" and "wow, nice work man".

I see a lot here about how sex is a big tell of who is in control, and I am getting it when I want it and she does what I want. The other night I told her she didn't get anything until she begged to choke on my dick. She got on her knees and asked me if she could suck my dick. I told her no she had to ask to choke on it, which she then did. By the time I bent her over, she was basically so wet she was dripping.

[–]RedMoonAscendant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Waitaminnit. You were going to give us 1K reasons to stay single. That sounds like a pretty good setup you have going there.

I thought I'd have a better situation, and it's not. It's basically as you describe.

Sure, you gotta be FUCK YEH ALPHA GET ON YOUR KNEES BITCH sometimes, and hey-baby-what's-wrong-let-me-hear-out-your-problems other times, but as long as you're always the captain, it seems to end up with wet panties and a great fucking.

Basically: be alpha when you should, be beta when you should, be in charge always, get win.

[–]masnera4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

for what i have learned here Marriage - are TRP in hard mode...not for the faint of the heart not for the weakest of the weak, not for a man who is a pussy, and not for a man who have nothing but a dream of fucking around forever and enjoying the decline...to each of his own.

I am still at anger phase with circle jerker's and echo chamberist.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

yeah, don't get married. Once you marry, you lose most all leverage. You have to work very hard to protect yourself because no one is on your side. Throw in kids, and well... You know how that typically goes.

Don't let the anger phase control you. Channel it into gaming women and achieving goals. Use it to study yourself and TRP.

[–]masnera1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Getting married is not my plan...but i will still have my offspring, and i will pass on my legacy, and they will pass theirs..and so on. and i've never been at anger phase with woman. When i was a kid...any boy who is seen fighting with girls are being teased as a gay(feminine man as their equal), that was deeply ingrained to me, I don't want an unequal fight... and why became angry at something that can't be bothered with. I will channel my energy at achieving my goals, but not gaming woman...that would be a waste of time and effort. They are welcome to game me though. XD

[–]shit_with_holes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Please do man. This is something I gotta see

[–]3rt410 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Please make a post about this, it can be a really good read

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think I am going to take your idea and run with it. Might take me some time though. I am going to look for a really good audio recorder. I don't think I could pull off the camera without her knowing. Once she knew she was being recorded she would act completely different.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I record audio with my cell. you can do it with your screen off too, they'll never know

[–]Boobz4Noobz0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If you're this miserable, chances are your wife is too. Why don't you guys try talking to a counselor? Maybe your wife is difficult, but if you both are going to stick it out, you might as well try and find a way to deal with each other in a productive way.

[–]DesireInspires0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No one wants to deal with reason when it comes to relationships. It is always easier to blame the other person instead of working on your own flaws.

Don't be a victim. Put in the work to make your life better. Never rely on a spouse, a child, a boss, a pastor, a politician, or anyone else to fix your life. Get your shit together and reap all of the rewards.

[–]PabloEscoba82 points83 points  (39 children) | Copy

The only true defense we have as men is to take away commitment. You don't owe them any explanation.Millennial men are doing a pretty good job at punishing rotten western women by withholding commitment.

[–]CornyHoosier21 points22 points  (15 children) | Copy

I feel like anything I say to this is a humble-brag. Basically, my conclusion is the same as OP.

What is the benefit of a relationship? I've seen numerous people swear before God to love each other to the end of time. Like the national average, for a lot it simple doesn't last. Then the man gets divorce raped and doesn't get equal access to his children.

I don't think Millennials (my generation) are actually rejecting women, so much as women's mental image of the "perfect man" has gotten too intense. I'm one of the few men in my group who has shunned relationships. I'm perfectly content with sex when I want it and then going about my own business.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

And how are the other guys? What do the chicks say since you don't cuff?

I'm very openly anti serious commitment. Fuck that And it just intrigues chicks even more.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

And how are the other guys? What do the chicks say since you don't cuff?

Imagine your self old as fuck, on your death bed, few minutes before you die. What are the chances you are gonna be thinking "I should've cared more of what women who didn't suck my dick think about my life?"

To answer to your question, here is what most of them say

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao I'm just curious. And yeah I figured. Lonlely ass old chicks.

[–]Idk123456789ten0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

A relationship is a tool. It has its purpose when the time comes.

[–]CornyHoosier1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

An angle grinder is a tool as well ... but that doesn't mean I need it

[–]dudet23-4 points-3 points  (9 children) | Copy

Well if you care about your community, nation, and frankly your ethnic group then not reproducing makes you a pretty worthless (not selfish, literally worthless) human being.

[–]pdpbigbang1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Who gives a damn about what you think about my worth or anyone else in that matter lol

[–]dudet23-2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's up to you to give a damn.

[–]pdpbigbang1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Exactly. I define my worth, not my community, nation, or ethnic group. They get benefits from me striving to actualize my dreams, but they don't define what my worth is, and especially not you. All the other definitions of my worth other than my own are only ways to manipulate me into serving their purposes.

[–]dudet23-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

K but only white western people have such individualist outlooks on life and look at where it is taking our societies

[–]pdpbigbang1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's funny because I'm 100% Asian who grew up in Asia for half of my life and I don't care how the society goes. The government engineers the society to run in their intended directions, and it is up to us to maneuver through the hoops and hurdles to get what we want. The creation and maintenance of the society is entirely up to the people with power, not us.

[–]dudet230 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Well the people in Asia care about maintaining a certain type of society that actually benefits Asians. Unlike our leaders that basically hate white people at this point. Even though we are the majority

[–]pdpbigbang0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You just categorically defined 20 billion population and 20 different countries to be a utopia. Can you be any more ignorant?

[–]CornyHoosier0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

HA! I'm the selfish one. Sure.

Intelligence is choosing when to support a community or nation (I could care less about my ethnic group). If neither my nation or community are following a path I believe in, they will not receive anymore than the basic support I'm willing to survive.

It's my opinion that the "social contract" in America is broken. Me having children and being a wage slave is not going to do a damn thing to help our society.

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[–]aiguo8889 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

The only thing happening here is that the higher IQ men are self sterilising, by checking out.

Some younger high IQ whites go for high IQ chinese in college that are more conservative on average.

I have checked out though, as finding women that are in the upper IQ ranges with a compatible personality that haven't had dozens of guys already are a very rare commodity and there is just no way to find them with a reasonable time investment and a high IQ in women still doesn't mean that AWALT doesn't apply and they get wet for low IQ chads just as much. Just not worth the effort to me anymore as it took me a long time to find my now ex wife as well.

Hookups and hookers just don't appeal to me, but I'm on the slightly autistic side and feel repulsed by the idea of touching or kissing random women I don't enjoy being around, so the only person I ever had sex with is my ex wife and I'm in the upper 30% of looks I'd say.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Shit, are you me? I'm an autist who loves high IQ women and at least a little bit of romance/compatibility. I'm also redpill aware, obviously. Hard world for us out there.

[–]aiguo8882 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You'll have the most luck in China if you have no prospects of being a management chad in the western world, but even there most of my female friends that hang out in venues that western guys frequent are pretty much alpha widows that have also run through a dozen guys.

They're alright to hang out with but not relationship material.

University (you can still study chinese at a chinese university when you're 30 or so) and work is probably the better way lock a girl down that hasn't been with more than 2 guys and no western guy ever.

There are also much more women with cut throat personalities or those still totally dependent on her parents that look for some sucker to take over (no stigma about living with your parents indefinitely), so it's a somewhat different minefield as well if you aren't familiar with the culture.

[–]PabloEscoba2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Good luck with that. Women are not romantic at all. Their so called love also dies when your perceived utility dies.

[–]TheSelfGoverned0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or they find someone with higher percieved utility who is willing to fuck them.

Commitment is just a tool used by women to acquire resources from betas. It truly means nothing to them.

[–]Wilreadit0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are these chicks who end up with big diamonds doctors? Or are they nurses or some other professionals?

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[–]Wilreadit3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If the people putting Harry Winstons are doctors then there is no surprise. Doctors are time starved, game ignorant people of high net worth. They only see what they want to see, and beyond their profession they do not give a flying fuck about anything else.

Since they are time starved they do not have the luxury of scouting for a mate outside from a larger pool. Most of the docs I know have either married someone from medical profession or married before they even became a doc.

Considering such a position, the adage the choose is ' a known devil is better than an unknown devil'. Better to marry someone whom they have seen over a year than someone they have not had a chance to study.

There is a flaw in this. This assumes that women won't change after you ring them. We all know it is not true.

The second is they do not have other options. Most of them are very averse to marrying fellow doctors, believe it or not. Women who have doctors are really 'gung ho' types. They have a name for it in the hospital:gunners. Because medicine is a man's world, a woman has have balls to rise up. This is a learned trait. Unfortunately you cannot flip a switch and then be a nice girl at home and an alpha critical care physician in the morning. That is why doc-doc marriages have fabulous failure rates.

[–]idgaf-16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

Millennial men are doing a pretty good job at punishing rotten western women by withholding commitment.

Are they? I see so much blue pill out there, attractive successful guys hungry for girlfriends and commitment.

[–]LMS_THEORY_14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can't go by anecdotal evidence,

Birth rates are dropping, average marriage age is increasing...not direct indicators, and probably not due to true TRP beliefs, but trending away from commitment as a whole I'd say

[–]1Yakatonker9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Its only happening because the betas are broke. The majority do not go to post secondary and earn a higher social station or earning position then women however in comparision to those who do they still marry at post second World War rates despite the quality in the market utterly breaking through the bottom of seven hells. Betas would marry in a heart beart but the majority of these cucks are just to poor to pay to play.

[–]Wilreadit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

because the betas are broke.

Ha ha. You said that right. During my BP days I wanted to put the biggest diamond the world has ever seen on the finger of a chick whom I thought was the best chick the world has ever seen.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's less because of a "trend away from commitment," and more of a fallout due to feminism/"empowered wymen."

You now have pseudofamilies that consist of a beta male, his hypergamous slut that he calls his wife, and a dog in lieu of an actual child.

Many beta males make vapid career choices that end in mediocre pay.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, but those "attractive, successful" men aren't getting laid. Guys who actually are regularly getting laid don't talk about how hungry they are for a girlfriend.

They're also not feeding these hos validation through their Instagrams. Guys who get laid are far less visible.

And attraction for a woman is so much more than being physically handsome and successful.

[–]AircraftWelder3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Right on with the taking away commitment. Men across the board need to stop rewarding bad behavior in women.

[–]evileddy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

A friend of mine was complaining that men today "don't want to commit"

"Why would they, what benefit does a woman bring to a man that he can't find in good male friends?"

She could not for the life of her come up with anything other than "sex on demand?"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm a millennial in a trade that I can live comfortably on if I excel. I'm a few years away from the wall age for women. I'm already seeing the Peter pan syndrome ideologies from girls my age. I get asked and sometimes even told I should want to settle down soon with a girl. I nor anyone else owe anyone shit.

[–]SunshineBlotters1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The alphas are doing a good job with or without TRP. But so many betas out here will still wife them up. They are not suffering by any means. They will get their pension funds filled when they get that divorce.

[–]thefisherman19610 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Punishment is the correct word. If she has sex with you and you decide she's not worthy of committment, then her SMV has just dropped because now you're just one more notch on her bed post.

[–]Testiklease22 points23 points  (4 children) | Copy

About the time I discovered TRP. I was living with a woman who was sweet, and shy. I took her Virginity when she was 22. At 25, lots of my close friends were getting married or also living with girls. I had to see what it was all about.

After a few months the sex was drying up, I was walking on egg shells just to negotiate having a friend over for drinks in my own house where she was living.

You give a kid a Inch, that kid then wants a mile. I learned pretty quickly that I was losing control of the relationship. She was the one who felt needed to call the shots. But then would shame me for not "Manning up" to making decisions.

Rollos Year One of the Rational Male. Opened up my eyes to the dangers of LTRs. Laid out lots of truths about why the relationship failed.

I still have yet to find a lady who has been able to show shes worth more than a couple warm holes. Or who don't have some deep seeded personality flaws from past experiences.

[–]polakfury1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Laid out lots of truths about why the relationship failed.

Which ones did you feel were the most important truths in your opinion?

[–]Testiklease0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ill list 3 articles that made the most sense to me.

Just Get It

Dread game

Dispelling the Magic

The whole thing was exactly what I needed at that point in my life. I would recommend to anybody interested in learning about dynamics and psychology about Male to Female interactions.

[–]DforDeadpool67 points68 points  (25 children) | Copy

In my bluepill days I thought I didn't like sweet, shy, quiet women and I thought I would like a strong independent woman. Funny how smooth social brainwashing works..

Besides a really small fraction of sweet, feminine women, all women are nowadays vapid, self-centered, insufferable cunts. And they know they are like that. So when a beta chases them like a little puppy, they immediately lose respect because they also innately know they don't deserve any kind of positive attention. They know those men are suckers.

If you don't have a moral obligation to not do it, go for escorts instead of LTRs. It's cheaper than LTRs. And at least she has to act like a fun, interesting girl who cares about you and your happiness. Sometimes it's like seeing a shrink, except you get to fuck her in unspeakable ways.

[–]benuntu9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

The problem is what people think of when they say "strong independent woman". In most cases, they are mistakenly saying that about narcissistic, self-centered, entitled head cases. This is the opposite of strong. That's a sign of a weak mind and little self control.

A lot of times a raving bitch will say, "I'm a strong independent woman" and I think , "Nope, you're just a miserable person". And misery loves company, but it's not getting mine.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's like how every slut has memes on her facebook about being a wild fire and learning from mistakes...

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (4 children) | Copy

That's why they love assholes who dgaf about them. Because the assholes won't play their games, so they respect you more.

Most women do not deserve positive attention. Its like those chicks who are "used to abuse so they don't know how to accept it when someone treats them nice."

Nah. They just enjoy the abuse, the excitement from the pain.

[–]1jb_trp13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because the assholes won't play their games, so they respect you more.

It's like they're searching for the daddy they never had growing up. In 20 years the next generation (who are raised by single moms) will probably be attracted to even more masculine men who don't put up with their BS.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Part of the reason is women are soooooooo insecure about themselves. They desperately need validation that they aren't worthless worms (which of course, they are, unfortunately). They know the truth of this, deep down and the very minute you give them that validation, they assume the reason must be because you are even more of a worthless worm than they are. It's sick. Of course, it's also exploitable. Hold out the lure of validation but don't actually give it to them.

-Book of Bonecracker

[–]skoobled1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dark but true, but only if women are encouraged to give up their one true super power - the gift of life. But oh snap we did that already

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Where's the rest of his rules? There's only 140 onwards.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (16 children) | Copy

Cultural Marxism is a bitch. But escorts are not the answer. The entire world is not like the West, fortunately. If you're serious about starting a family and/or getting married, try Eastern Europe where things are less backwards. Being a guy who chases muh dik all day is weak and degenerate. Society is in desperate need of strong, principled men. Don't add to the problem.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon26 points27 points  (9 children) | Copy

Society is in desperate need of strong, principled men.

Yes, but does it reward such men, or punish them further? Someone else's need is not my problem, especially if I'm going to be further abused for trying to help.

[–]10334217 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

This is something that a lot of dudes here seem to miss...

Most guys would actually enjoy being strong and provide for a family. But guess what we call those guys... BETA BUX.

Being beta bux is a legitimate strategy when society NEEDS providers. And western society, more specifically western women, don't.

This is a bitter pill that a lot of tge guys here simply refuse to swallow.

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You could take away all welfare, child support, alimony and public sector jobs for women and we would still have the same situation due to the economic reality we live in. Men have been replaced by machines for labour and warfare. Uteruses are the only limited resource in this time and age. Everything else is in abundance.

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[–]polakfury5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

subsidizing their bad decisions would absolutely make a difference.

I think it actually makes a huge difference.

It's this simple: when you subsidize something, you will cause that which you're subsidizing to go up.

Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams wrote books on that in the 90s and even well beforehand on that topic.

[–]SecularNotLiberal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Society as a whole does reward them. Women may not but being a lesser version of yourself to net someone who isn't worth your time is a piss poor choice.

[–]polakfury-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, but does it reward such men, or punish them further?

You think a President like Trump would put in provisions to reward such men? Or at least make a cultural change in order to do so?

[–]Caucasian-African2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

There is a better chance Trump will, in contrast to everyone else in the race.

[–]polakfury2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope so. The man knows marriage laws like no other as well.

[–]DforDeadpool11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Being a guy who chases muh dik all day is weak and degenerate.

Yeah, that's why I said "If you don't have any morals". I used to be that way and I visited escorts, now I don't.

On another view Marriage 1.0 is completely fucked, anywhere in the world. That's how it looks like. So let's not chase unicorns or Wonderlands.

[–]SunshineBlotters6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Escorts get a bad rap imo. They make sure they look good, which is more than most can even offer in this day and age.

[–]redolas5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

About Eastern Europe. It's catching up fast. What took the West decades to achieve, Eastern Europe is doing in years. Not because they're smarter, but because they just copy everything. Stupidly, if you ask me, but that's another discussion.

Yes, marriages last longer, but that's only because there is an economic need for it. Most women even in Eastern Europe have a shitty job - if they even have one, a lot of them don't - and the major breadwinner is the man. That means he works his ass off for his kids and wife. The wife stays home with the kids. Maybe she's not cheating as much or as obviously as in the US, but there are ways to get your alpha if you're a married woman.

No, marriage is not the solution. Not even in Eastern Europe.

[–]DforDeadpool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No place is a Wonderland where you can find your unicorn and ride her forever.

[–]askmrcia2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

So am I supposed to move to Eastern Europe? Look I get what you mean, but the best thing for us to do is adapt to our surroundings and play the hand we've been dealt.

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I'm not saying don't give an honest effort in your native land. Do that first. Expatriation is a last result.

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A woman who is actually strong and independent is great. These are women who majored in STEM fields with very high GPAs and often have graduate degrees.

The women who take a few gender studies classes and declare themselves to be strong and independent because of their tumblr rants...not so much.

[–]J_AsapGem9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

She knows you better so she's better at head fucking you. She'll press all your buttons, say shit plates wouldn't know. Say some shit about your mother, say some shit you told her about your childhood. Whatever. Basically any fucking thing you think is sacred she's going to use against you

my mother actually does this to me if we have an argument, she would bring up my pass mistakes, AWALT.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

that's all they have. my mom does that shit too. she'll bring up things from all the way back as far as she can go. non of it ever is relevant to the argument either.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I thought I recognized this writing style.

You list all the negatives of LTR's and dealing with women in today's society but there are some benefits of some LTR's beyond pussy. The key is to find a woman that adds value to your life and then to hold onto your frame forever.

No problem!

Marriage is like giving a girl a loaded gun and telling her to point it at your head. Then all you have to do is dance monkey dance and entertain her for rest of your life in order to keep her from pulling the trigger.

However, women are like water and will take the shape of their container so there is some room to dance in a way that will force her to add value . Sometimes.

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In the original post he says,

"I don't find career-oriented women attractive. I find family-oriented women attractive."

My input on this is that the most family oriented women I've been with have still been equally as crazy because their loyalty to their family is completely blind, as if family can do no wrong. These were all Mexican women. So I can't say I find either attractive. Poor me.

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It all ties together. Most traditional cultures like latinas are more family oriented/loyal/feminine acting. I've never seen it go to a dumb extreme though. You have to take IQ into account, smarter latinas will have the same values but not act blindly dumb about it. If that makes sense.

[–]ripross1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah they were reasonably dumb. Where the smart ones at doe?

[–]me_gusta_poon7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

They dont come to the US. Go to a rich Latin American city like Monterrey or Santiago Chile. Theyre like little bastions of non degenerate peoples in a sea of shit.

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V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N in the summer sun

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[–]Whirly3157 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

I like this metaphor... But as a joke, does that mean the 1969 model is the most valuable? It's totally been kept in mint condition! Only 16,000 miles!

[–]saze836 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Even a 1969 model kept in mind condition would not be nice to drive around on a daily basis.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Since when do hot young pieces of tail give a fuck about your objective value, which is built over time?

The best way to meet and keep a hot young woman is to be a hot young dude with game. Period. And if you're talking quality women -- don't think other guys aren't aware of the attributes that make these women quality, and snatch them up quickly while they're both still young.

I'm inclined to think this idea you're talking about here is one big cope. TRP hamstering. Maybe a 35+ year old guy can temporarily fuck star-struck young women who love his high-status job and fancy car, but commitment? Doesn't really happen.

[–]TRPApprentice28 points29 points  (8 children) | Copy

The modern woman has forgotten her historical place in society and is thus unworthy of the modern man's commitment.

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She hasn't forgotten, she's just doing what's fashionable. What kind of women are portrayed in the media 24/7? GRRRL POWER! This problem won't go away until we reclaim our culture.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

Half of the problems in our society stem from the archetype of the lazy and worthless sitcom dad.

That's an absolutely inane statement on my part, but it is the truth of our absurd society. People do what the media tells them to do. To take a page out of the feminist/cultural Marxist playbook: we need more strong men on TV.

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There's a strong black man trope on TV...I think you need to be a little bit more specific.

[–]dudet230 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes we need more discussion on race. Only one race seems to be portrayed as faggy effeminate and beta on television anymore

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Guide to MSM portrayal of men:

White man: Homer Simpson, beta cuck, villain, or literal faggot

Hispanic man: If he "acts Hispanic" he's masculine, if he's adopted to Western culture he's Fabio

Asian man: Super genius or enlightened one

Arab man: Peaceful victim, misunderstood by evil Westerners

Black man: Total package - brilliant, funny, alpha, strong, etc.

[–]TRPApprentice9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly! These bitches need to be re-domesticated. 'Fabulous' portrayals of women in shows like Sex and The City have indoctrinated the female populace with delusions of grandeur

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Isn't grand that women can be made to buy certain brand shoes and also screw strangers simply by what's on TV at the moment? I believe there is a reason why most advertising is targeted at women and children.

[–]skoobled5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would subtract the anger, but yes I concur. Of course never say never, but the deal is so poor for the vast majority of Western women. Case in point, fairly average American (yah yah) I went out with recently:

Date starts with her recent trials and tribulations. Par for the course. Eventually I swing it away towards fun

Mid way through things are going reasonably well

Third act after a couple of drinks she switches right into very direct deal making mode. Expects me to explain my life plan to her, put all my cards on the table and essentially sign a verbal contract before she has offered anything else in return. I bat it all away as best possible, but GROAN internally. And for a 30 something 5.

We end up back at my place but she throws up that predictable ASD and frankly I'm too uninterested to bother with her

The rub is, a girl like this has little to offer in the long-term. And it she won't put out there's nothing in the short-term either apart from a pointless evening. If I were with a male buddy we would have laughed more, learnt more, AND contributed to a really meaningful relationship

[–]VanityKings4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll be blunt; if I didn't find women to be sexually attractive I would likely spend as little time around them as possible.
Everything that a woman can do for me (aside from sexual favors) myself or my bros can do much better and with a lot less effort or investment needed on my part.
I seriously don't understand why people think marriage or even LTRs with women are worth it when men get next to nothing in terms of benefit when weighing the costs.

[–]WildmanThaGod32 points33 points  (28 children) | Copy

Girls these days are literally disgusting, I wish I could respect them but they haven't done anything to deserve that. Even the ugliest freshman at my high school (I'm a senior) are huge sluts. I've only had one girlfriend and I don't plan on having many more, especially at this age, because girls are a completely waste of my time and I have much bigger things to accomplish than them.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron25 points26 points  (26 children) | Copy

Dude, you are a fool if you miss the chance to apply TRP in highschool.



Never again in your life will you have the chance to fuck that many women with such little effort.

Live it up, be a shark not a turtle.

[–]LMS_THEORY_15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sounds like MGTOWer, and that's ok. High school isn't slut central, pretty much all the boys are fucking the same slutty girls. College days, and 18-23 in general, is prime season.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse_4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. In HS say 20% of the girls are huge sluts, and all the guys who are getting laid are fucking those sluts. A lot of girls graduate H.S. virgins or close to it.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

College was fun too.

Highschool is much easier though, the guy doesn't need as much stuff to have game.

In highschool you can bag 7-10s who are virgin or 1 partner while borrowing your parents car and living at home, lol.

In college the competition is a whole lot tougher, and the girls have built better bitch shields.

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Can confirm. Am in highschool, bitches love me. I have decent game, am a cocky well dressed preppy mixed pretty boy with a mix of hood accent/ southern accent/ LA accent I've developed from moving around lmao. The hoes love it

Disagree on the virgins tho, lots of girls my age are sluts. Most of them. I've been with 10 chicks.

Im chubby tho, been hitting the gym lately.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well times change as far as the virgins go, I guess.

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I discovered TRP my last semester of college, towards the end. By the time I'd internalized shit properly, I was already graduated. Anyone who discovers TRP at least a year before graduating college is a lucky mother fucker.

I was BP and still got pussy. But I die a little inside whenever I playback all the missed, easy opportunities I had with super fucking hot chicks.

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Maybe things are completely different in the US, but are college chicks isolated in the campus or something over there? I live in Europe and banging college chicks after you've graduated is as easy.

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[–]Ifuckinglovepron-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

More virgins in highschool....

College is easier, but the choices are less prime.

[–]ECTD6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

yeah because tons of virgins who think they're top of the line meat, who need convincing that you're the best butcher to tenderize them is horse shit. Showing tons of girls the rope—especially when they're less experienced to birth control—is a bad game plan.

[–]Ifuckinglovepron2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well no reward is without risk.

Just saying it is fun to snag a few pre-cock carousel while you can.

[–]WildmanThaGod4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy

I could but that would mean takin time to hangout with girls instead of making music, and I care much more about music than girls. If a girl wants to approach me (which my ex did) then she can maybe have a shot, but otherwise I will be 100% focused on my art.

[–]sakibombs253 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Listen to yourself. Girls are a waste of time, but if one approaches you first then it's ok? Why are you letting others choose for you? Sounds like you're rationalizing not approaching girls you're attracted to because you're afraid of rejection.

[–]WildmanThaGod4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

No rejection isn't a fear of mine, I'm the prize and if a girl doesn't want me that's her loss, not mine. I talk to plenty of girls but my main focus is music and trying to get with girls would be a distraction from my main goals. There will be time for girls once I've accomplished what I've set out to do.

[–]swan11141 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Be careful with rationalizing inaction on this front. The guys are right. Never gets easier.

[–]WildmanThaGod0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I see what you're saying man, I do make efforts to go and talk to girls and I enjoy the experience but it's not my main focus and if I do it too much I'll probably get distracted and that's not at all what I want.

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[–]Wilreadit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It has been a good job for a lot of folks, so shut it when you don't know chump.

[–]WildmanThaGod0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Well you clearly lack ambition... If I spend 100% of my time on music then I can make it a career, and I plan on doing just that.

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It's more than just knowing how to play a guitar, learn the business behind monetizing music unless you want to play open mics the rest of your life. I'm serious. Hopefully you know this already.

[–]WildmanThaGod0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Trust me man I look this stuff up often and research the ways all my favorite artists got into the industry. It's only as hard as you make it, and I'm confident in my art and I know people with big ties to the industry and I'm only 18 and I'm ready to start the next chapter in my life. But thanks for looking out for me man I appreciate it!!

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Women do what is fashionable. In occupied Western countries, women are brainwashed to think having masculine qualities is fashionable. It creates a battle of the sexes.

If you've given it serious effort and you aren't having luck in your country of origin, try your luck in less PC countries in Eastern Europe or Asia, depending on your physical preferences. Sounds drastic but I've heard several first hand success stories with this strategy.

[–]ECTD0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Explain it exactly, do you mean men with otherwise average resumes can perform better in less PC countries?

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In countries where men are men and women are women, it's easier for you to find a good mate. Occupied Western countries are PC hellholes and it will be much more challenging to find women who embrace their own femininity. I'd wager that 99% of men in the West have NOT experienced true femininity. It's divine.

[–]Gawernator14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

It does seem hard to find girls worth it these days. Luckily I think I found one but time will tell. I'm definitely not giving away my commitment to these entitled ho's... Lol.

You got girls not even sleeping with you trying to get you to not talk to other women. Haha, what a joke.

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Man if a bitch ever tried some shit like that on me, I'd drop her stupid ass so fast

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They don't really have that sense of self worth tho. Its fake self esteem, women are horribly insecure.

[–]skoobled4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She was angry because he wasn't playing along with her delusion that she is hot. Women don't care about the truth, they care about feeling good. Truth is moot

[–]Wilreadit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Check out what the cosmetics companies like dove or loreal put in their heads.

You are truly beautiful. You are worth it.

[–]ArthurBingKing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

To play devils advocate, doesnt the increasing difficulty keep you on your game? at some point you have to keep improving yourself which I find very appealing. Nothing in life stays the same difficulty, look at even your most basic video game...certainly there are games that are nearly impossible to win at, but overall everything increases in difficulty.

[–]Wtfisthisgamebtw2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

simply put, since relationships are transnational, a woman has nothing to offer besides sex in a relationship, and given sex can be acquired without a relationship, it makes absolutely no sense to commit to a one-way transaction.

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Which is why besides wanting kids, you shouldn't get into exclusive commited LTRs.

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[–]askmrcia5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'm going to disagree with you so hard. I used to believe like you did. I really did and all that did was caused me to waste alot of opportunities. I used to date only one girl only. And every single one of those girls were talking to other guys. And trust me, I didn't chase hoes. I dated girls who didn't really drink, didn't party, kept to themselves, hell most of them were from international countries. They all left me for other guys. Know why this was a problem? Because while talking to one girl, I missed out on having sex with other girls. This killed my college experience.

Now I'm talking(already had sex) to a very nice girl, but I still don't trust her and yes I admit I'm dating other girls on the side. I don't think this girl is talking to other guys, but I'll never know. I'm sorry, your advice is bad. I wish you were right. I really do. But I tried your strategy all through high school and college and it got me burned over and over again.

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Yes. That girl is talking to other guys. All women do. She is already cheating /fucking other guys. Never keep only one woman, keep your options open and fuck with a bunch. Also, regarding the trusting. Never trust a female. Ever.

Women are not loyal. Internalize that.

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Perhaps he is talking about long term plating. I agree with him that after a certain point, the majority of women that are LTR material will not want to share you and will want to be exclusive. I can't see many I've known being okay with a casual thing for a year, let's say.

[–]AUAUA0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do what are you gonna do? Act super beta when you find the proverbial one?

[–]Wilreadit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Girls are always on their mental calculator trying to work out the best way to get the things they want.

Chad doesn't know how to use one, he just tries to bang everything that moves.

It is the man who falls in love who is doomed in this structure.

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[–]Wilreadit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Horses not zebras broh. Learn to hunt horses and you may not go hungry.

[–]RedPillAtNight4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

This is something I wish was explored more here. I had a super high quality girl in an LTR and very little of TRP applied to her. I was unemployed for the first two years of our relationship and she never brought it up. Never. There was no way to dread her because she would just say ,"If you want to do something else, just let me know." But I didn't need to because she never turned down sex in six years.

The only thing I noticed was she would get weird if I went too beta, then "something in our relationship doesn't feel right." Luckily I knew enough to understand that and nip it.

Too bad she refused to pay off her debt. After six years it became apparent that was never getting solved.

Other than that, my unicorn.

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I had a unicorn once too, but she was so shy and genuinely introverted that she never talked and that eventually broke us up. I don't mean compared to a typical girl. I mean she made folks somewhat uncomfortable. She could easily spend all day with me and not say more than 20 words. As a result, I could not really connect with her. It was like dating a mannequin that worshiped the ground you walked on and wanted sex with you constantly, perhaps like a sex robot.

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Sounds amazing. The less she talks the better. I like conversation on my terms.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

for real. although I understand the other guy too

[–]Boobsbuttsandbats0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Do you think this reflects more so on yourself than who she was specifically? Because then I wouldn't mind hearing you explore the topic further. I think there are those of us, often overlooked, who once in a relationship, run a relationship like a well oiled machine. Things go smoothly regardless of the normal pit falls, joblessness being a good one, as you mentioned, but you're left to make a tough decision based on a fatal flaw of theirs.

This could be a good topic for discussion similar to redpillschools post here. Just because you've figured out how to lead well doesn't mean the relationship is special. It can be tricky to leave a good thing, but the fact remains LTRs really can't lead to marriage in this climate, and even though your relationship is smooth sailing, she will eventually drop hints, and you have to be the one to know how to get out.

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Unfortunately I can't take the credit. It wasn't me running the relationship well, it was just how good a fit we were. Other than the money thing, it was amazing. I didn't encounter the red pill until very late in the relationship, so that really had no bearing in it. We just fit each other in a very complementary way, and she had massive self awareness. I met her online and she approached me in the first 15 minutes I had my profile up and I didn't even have any photos approved yet. She didn't care how I looked, so lifting would have made no difference.

So much of the red pill had no bearing on that relationship that now trying to date again, I find I have almost no red pill skills. I have so long to go in the real world, ugh.

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My unicorn was perfect in everyway except she wanted me to let her fuck other guys whom would approach her. She wanted me and the other guys too.

Quickly I demoted her from a unicorn to a plate.

[–]Whirly3150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with you... But in my mid 20s that kind of girl understands casual dating. She just expects that there is no "main girl" in your life. It's totally acceptable for you to "have been on a few dates with some girls, nothing serious at the moment". PowerTalk is your ally. Appear valuable, appear desired, control how people perceive you.

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You put those types of chicks on the pedestal. Fuck that shit, I rather just fuck sluts.

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Fun little game. Time to play, just play to win

[–]reiduh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I recently broke it off with a mostly-sweet, mostly-genuine woman.

She texted me afterwards and told me I should have just smacked her across the face when she started ranting her horseshit emotional lies. We were in public; the temptation was there.

Think I'll walk away this time. Sorry American Chads ruined you, little one.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

White men - You need to find a white woman and have many white children with her. Do not listen to this marxist claptrap, it is designed to reduce the white population.

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TRP has some truths but ultimately most of the posters here are complete and total degenerates whose wisdom is cultural poison

[–]Renaissancepirate0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is especially true for college. With false rape accusation and the kangaroo courts, monk mode through college would be a good idea.

[–]NaughtyFred1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

I've had my dick in all 3 holes a woman has and this feels better

If all women really have nothing to offer besides their holes and technology has surpassed those...why bother?

I'm serious, based on what you wrote why bother?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 10 points11 points  (6 children) | Copy

I'm serious, based on what you wrote why bother?

I think that's a question you need to answer for yourself. There is no easy answer to that. For some, the answer is that they won't bother.

I think to answer it you need to be very realistic and honest with yourself. It's okay to admit that your happiness is tied to sexual success. I, for one, wouldn't have gotten involved in TRP and the manosphere if a fleshlight gave me the same pleasure as attracting and fucking women. If I'm completely honest with myself, I need women. It's my biological imperative. Any substitute for me simply doesn't do it.

A lot of guys will powertalk like they don't need women in their lives. I think they rationalize because they don't want to need women. Or they can't be successful with women. I think they're lying to themselves.

But if your libido is low and you don't crave the validation, maybe you don't? I can't speak for others.

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I'm aware of MGTOW and I'm half in/half out on the idea, I'd be reticent to fully engage with it as it seems to be a more eloquent way of saying "I give up".

I think to answer it you need to be very realistic and honest with yourself. It's okay to admit that your happiness is tied to sexual success.

I agree with and desire sexual happiness, it's why I subbed to TRP 15 months ago and continue to do so. That isn't an issue to me.

I, for one, wouldn't have gotten involved in TRP and the manosphere if a fleshlight gave me the same pleasure as attracting and fucking women.

Can you elaborate on the specifics of what it is you receive? From how women are perceived to be here it seems the equivalent of hunting a super dangerous, highly intelligent animal whose fur you can't use, flesh you can't eat, can't be domesticated and you can't use it as trophy...because it's ugly and it stinks.

Admittedly my experience is limited (and the analogy isn't perfect) so there's most likely something I'm missing but what is it that makes them worth it?

The substitute isn't the ideal solution for me either. I'd much rather have a woman but in their current state as described on this sub they sound horrid.

I'd appreciate you engaging with me on this.

[–]nicechallenge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For me intimacy is what a fleshlight or my hand couldn't give me. That's the only reason I can think of to get a girl in my current situation.

[–]TheVictor3331 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. We all need women (for sex). I can't fathom going completely MGTOW. I need pussy.

That is why I'm a strong advocate of the MGTOW + hookers strategy. You get to live your life on your own terms without a woman holding you back and you get the perks of getting pussy, if you can afford it.

If you do the math on most divorce rapes (money lost divided by the number of times their wives fucked them), each sex session amounts to much more than what your average backpage hooker will charge.

And here in Dominican Republic, you can get a light skinned, curvy swimsuit model looking chick HB10 for $2000 pesos ($43.59 USD) an hour. There are even brothels out here where you can get them for as low as $1200 pesos ($26.15 USD) an hour, but those chicks are usually in the HB6-8 range.

And you don't have to worry about police raids like in the states because prostitution is legal here.

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I wanna visit the DR one day then. Thailand too. Gotta watch out for ladyboys tho.

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This comment is worth two nominations for the "Most underrated comment" section.

[–]SlipperySamsonite5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

this feels better.

Try's Jenna's butt...it's nice.

[–]NaughtyFred5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'll put it on the list :D

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Off topic but would that help with premature ejaculation?

[–]1Jax777890 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

"She is meant to be a partner". Captain and first mate yes. Partner ? nah, she is beneath you. She disobeys, whip the bitch, she disobeys again, throw her off the ship.

Unicorns do not exist man. You can only find a good enough chick or take one who is still young and whom you can properly train. They are only as bad as you let them be.

[–]Falkrik5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The 18-19 yr old girls I've been with in college have slept with 20+ guys already. I wish you good luck finding a good/young girl.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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