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The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill

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Myth of the Dark Arts

According to common definition, the Dark Triad is a group of three personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy, all of which are interpersonally aversive. Depending upon context, that may be a convenient assessment of a sociopathic personality, but it is hardly an accurate assessment of Game as a whole. In its desperation to come to terms with a more widespread acceptance of Game, the feminine imperative had to make some effort to disuade the common man (see Beta) from embracing the means to his release from the feminine Matrix. Associating Game with Dark Triad personality traits makes this qualification process much easier, since the feminine imperative owns the definition authority of what is social and what is anti-social.


The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill

The truth will set you free, but it doesn’t make truth hurt any less, nor does it make truth any prettier, and it certainly doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that truth requires. One of the biggest obstacles guys face in unplugging is accepting the hard truths that Game forces upon them. Among these is bearing the burden of realizing what you’ve been conditioned to believe for so long were comfortable ideals and loving expectations are really liabilities. Call them lies if you want, but there’s a certain hopeless nihilism that accompanies categorizing what really amounts to a system that you are now cut away from. It is not that you’re hopeless, it’s that you lack the insight at this point to see that you can create hope in a new system – one in which you have more direct control over.

There are no “Dark Arts”, this is simply one last desperate effort of the feminine imperative to drag you back into the Matrix. There is only Game and the degree to which you accept it and are comfortable in using it in the context that YOU define. If that context is under the auspices of a mutually beneficial, mutually loving, mutually respecting LTR monogamy of YOUR choosing, know that it’s the fundaments of Game that are at the root of its success or failure. If that context is in terms of spinning multiple plates, liberating the affections of women from other men, and enjoying a love life based on your personal satisfactions, also understand that it lives and dies based on your understanding the fundaments of Game.

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Title The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill
Author redpillschool
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Date 23 April 2016 04:19 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]LockedOnTheRedPill12 points13 points  (20 children) | Copy

Keep in mind the Dark Triad is only good for pulling in girls, not keeping them. If LTR is your goal, then balance Dark Triad traits with other alpha behaviors. I personally only use dark triad when I first meet girls, to keep them interested short term. It's not a healthy thing to do at all long term. Also, these traits can also come in handy with business, but use them sparingly.

[–]5639673250 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

What specific dark triad things do you do?

[–]LockedOnTheRedPill5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

Specifically Narcissism, but to an extent. Too much of any of the dark triad personalities is an instant turnoff for most girls. When I talk to girls for the first time, I employ Narcissistic traits; I.E. Selfishness and a grandiose idea of accomplishment. For example, If a girl asks me to get something for her, I reply, "You have a set of perfectly good legs... You can do it yourself." Or I pressure flip and ask her to do something for me first before I do something for her. The idea, in theory, is to create a personality that is self absorbed in the short term, that it pulls her in and gives her those "tingles." She'll want to learn more about you. Of course, like I mentioned earlier, you can't do this too much to one girl or she will get turned off like a faucet. It's a balancing act.

[–]kazaul3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wrong. Certain forms of DT can hold girls for years. Natural dread mixed with a little (faked?) compassion will secure far better than any alpha cue. It's not 'healthy' and leads to ever-escalating conflict but it will work. I can only imagine that someone who says such a thing has learned DT and isn't that way by nature (or nurture).

I don't have to work to be high mach or mid psych; narc is always a coin toss depending on the situation and what benefits me. The rest happens without conscious thought and it is both abusive and addictive for all involved. I've done things most men (even 'alphas') of my status and SMV would never be forgiven for and suffered no ill consequences. Not once. Not one woman (fucked or not) holds what I've done against me. Certain men hate me. No woman sees any fault.

I can and have formed entire relationships around that and, because it's who I am, there are no negative effects. There is no difference between being me and being me. None of this is inheretly unhealthy because I'm unhealthy (mentally and emotionally) by default. I suffer no ills from doing what I would otherwise.

This is what non-fucked up people don't understand about DT. I can keep escalating and escalating well beyond what even I deem accptable, and never percieve it as abnormal. I feel no difference. It's a minor mental shift, deciding I'll just go through with it and let my personality flow. The point where I break is well beyond what virtually any other human can endure because I can just lie to myself and make it go away. Sure, now I know I'm doing it. But that changes nothing.

All that drama? That conflict and chaos? Sure, I hate it on some level, but I also revel in it. I like getting pushed. Hell, I actively provoke conflict and fight it out to the end, just because I can – and because I can (and will) win. I've done this for 8+ years. It took me just as long to realize I do this, and why my relationships hold when others fall apart. Once my teeth are in, they do not come out unless I get bored of sucking emotions.

But you have to understand: it dangerous as fuck. Get me at the wrong moment and I will wreck people, break them in places they didn't even know they were vulnerable without so much as a casual thought. After I seemed like their best friend for years on end. And I feel nothing. Not even an inkling of fault for what I did. It was their fault because they were a stupid human being and didn't realize how dangerous I was. None of this is me. It's all them, and since I've realized this, I tell people flat out what they're dealing with. No one believes it until shit hits the fan.

No healthy mind fully understands what DT can do, no matter how well informed they think they are. It makes no logical sense. And that's the issue if you're high functioning. No one even believes there is an issue. Only people who've been hurt by me even realize how far I can go. Everyone else just refuses to believe it's possible. No human being could act or think this way. And most can't. It's not an 'act'. It's who you are – and it's fucking socially destructive.

[–]5639673250 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

you can't do this too much

Calibration?

[–]IAMAwhitecismaleAMA1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

No. It's just that when they notice what you're doing it breaks the illusion. So it really depends on how subtle you are, how dumb she is.

It alone won't keep a girl.

[–]LockedOnTheRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It alone won't keep a girl.

You are correct.

[–]1CoupDeGrace220 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dark triad is not something you "use". It's a set of subclinical traits,one of which is developed,the latter is mostly genetic and epigenetic,and narcissism in it's lowlier forms,not the grandiose form,is prevalent in most of the populace today thanks to social media,and I'm not quite sure you can hope to switch from the former to the latter since the conditions in which they develop are contradictory. You can fake a bit here and there,but your character will always be divergent.

It's not superman shit,if you stumble on it and you get high scores on the PPI and bells ringing then congrats you had a fucked up life and have dangerous potential,if one has to ask about it he is probably better off delving upon amorality and machiavellianism instead for he can never develop the rest.

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[–]IAM_CHAD_AMA2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you actually have this personality it's not tryhard at all it's just acting natural. If you don't then you're just trying to impersonate someone who does, and you're probably doing a bad job at it

[–]J_AsapGem-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

who gives a fuck about LTR pump and fucking dump fam and besides that, how do you " only use dark triad " when you meet girls? explain please

[–]IAMAwhitecismaleAMA3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Believe it or not, being a sociopath is hard work. It takes a lot of mental energy for normal people. For me, it feels like my soul is being crushed because I actually want to be nice to people.

[–]J_AsapGem1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

So you mean like fake it until you become kind of thing?

[–]IAMAwhitecismaleAMA1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

That's what I've been doing for the past year. The only thing I've "become* is a really good actor.

I "dropped the act" a couple times while alone with a person and they actually freaked out.

[–]GetrichonIMP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I drop the act slowly and only with people I've known for years and have leverage on.

[–]LockedOnTheRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The context I used it in is that it's not the only thing I use, but I do not use dark triad past the first meeting. To explain, I use dark triad, but I also use other aspects of game. Never solely rely on any one thing.

[–]cesarfd10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

If that context is under the auspices of a mutually beneficial, mutually loving, mutually respecting LTR monogamy of YOUR choosing, know that it’s the fundaments of Game that are at the root of its success or failure.

Long term monogamy doesn't work and never did, not even in the old times. That's another truth that hurts. A lot. Monogamy clearly benefits women because it's more aligned with their sexual strategy (not 100% though) and is used by them to build a sexual monopoly in which she is your only option to have sex, hence she gains a lot of power and control, specially after the first couple of years.

Either she sees you as alpha and so reluctantly prefers you to bang other girls on the side from time to time rather than lose you, or long term monogamy will end up hitting the man first via branch swinging, which matches perfectly with women's serial monogamy system.

A woman will always prefer to share an alpha than be faithful to a beta, even she does that for a while. Never promise monogamy. Always keep your options open. Let her know that you could fuck any other girl this very evening if you wanted to. And from time to time: do it.

[–]LockedOnTheRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like the plate-spinning theories state. Monogamy is a byproduct of Plate-Spinning. It shouldn't be the first thing you strive for. Also, abundance mentality is huge here. If you think you are hot shit, girls are more likely to think the same thing.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

First they deny it, then they try to compromise, and finally they resent you.

Game awareness is not enough, you have to exercise game in order to defend your frame. People will consistently try to game you for: fun, benefit, or punishment. It's up to you to see through the smoke and mirrors.

[–]unicorn-carousel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm realizing this pretty realistically. In the last few years I've been destroyed 3 times in situations where I was aware I was under attack but chose to ignore, thinking the aggressor would go away or had no teeth. I just want to go to work or home and be left alone, but people take my non-involvement as arrogance or something, and the strangest rumors come back to me. 'Tis fucking lame.

[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

The process of unplugging usually starts with ripping the band aid off of the beta's eyes. That's a painful process which results in Denial, Bargaining, Anger, and Depression, the first four stages of grief.

But what is that band aid? It's the idea that everything can be viewed through a transactional lens. That your idealized view of love can be seen as strategy if one is awake, or as economics if one is still plugged in and looking at the whole.

How, then, does one get to the Acceptance stage? How does one become happy after having seen the savage, transactional state of the world?

It comes from the knowledge that you are now better prepared. You know things the average beta will never internalize because it destroys his house of cards belief system.

You are better prepared in relationships. You see how your boss manages those around you with incetives and punishments. You see how the girl is only doing what she's doing for the validation of the group.

You've had the band aid ripped off, but open your eyes and see how that means you have more power over your environment.

The dark triad is vilified, and anyone who displays strategy is shamed as sociopathic and uncaring.

They don't ever consider that opening your eyes to the transactional nature of the world can result in a sense of joy, stemming from the power you get by truly accepting the world as it is.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The truth is beautiful, simply because it's true.

[–]1Jax777894 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well I think the Dark Triad is overrated. This for two reasons.

First, the Dark Triad test does not take into account sadistic tendencies and therefore there is nothing "dark" about it as long as you are not a sadist.

Second, the Dark Triad is only relevant in so far as men are reduced to shadows of themselves by the FI. It is the FI that made us care about women over ourselves ( Narcissism), that made us into emotional chumps ( Psychopathy) and that made us clueless about female strategy, do not think, just be yourself ( Machiavelianism).

All in all the if you put yourself first and become socially intelligent ( that includes absorbing TRP knowledge) you will score high on the Dark Triad test. It is however useful to go high on "psychopathy" ( it is in fact stoicism because psychopathy is a condition that you are born with or develop because of a traumatic event) during the unplugging phase. I did it. I brainwashed myself into a heartless bastard for about 3 months to override the emotional pawn that I was. Then after that and major improvements in Game my "psychopathy" was just normal and I currently spike on Narcissism and Machiavellianism.

This said I enjoy defining myself as having Dark Triad traits, it makes me feel dangerous and that gives me confidence. Sometimes it is good to keep the illusion, a rational irrationality.

[–]IAMAwhitecismaleAMA0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I used to masturbate while standing in front of a huge mirror. I'm a narcissist.

Now, I still have a full length mirror facing my bed. There's just something about seeing yourself pumping a bitch.

[–]Frozenlime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've always believed in red pill principals since I was probably about 18, thats 13 years ago, don't remember it being "bitter", just interesting.



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