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Wife Test: An Introduction, and Batshit Crazy

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Starting off our new flair, I wanted to begin posting some quality articles by Ian Ironwood about a selection process for a wife.

A lot of men here have asked me- what do I do if I want to start a family or get married. And our answer- as explained in my MRP Introduction post is the same as our standard disclaimer: You shouldn't get married, at least not legally so.

But what if you want to enter into a LTR partnership like marriage. What if you want to make the commitment outside of the law?

Well that's just what we're going to be discussing under this flair.

Wife Test: An Introduction, and Batshit Crazy

Excerpt:

When it comes to proper Wife Selection, the first big issue is, of course, pre-screening. That is, establishing your criteria for what you want in your wife. For this I suggest compiling a list.

Hell, just buy a notebook. You're going to need it.

Think of this as your "wife hunting manual", because it is going to serve as the command-and-control system, the scientific journal, the wish list and the notes section of your journey. And at the very begining, you need to establish your List.

The List encompasses four sections: Must-Haves, Nice-to-Haves, Bonus Points and Dealbreakers. And while your Must-Haves and Nice-to-Haves are going to be much different from every other dude's, there are some issues in the Dealbreaker category that most of us are going to agree are common things to avoid in a woman.

And at the very top of the list of dealbreakers should be Batshit Crazy. It's one of the basic things you need to think about before you even consider cohabitation, let alone buying a ring. Hell, if you smell it early enough, it's usually advisable to avoid Batshit Crazy altogether. Like cocaine, it has a tendancy to be expensive, dramatic, and lead to long-term damage.

So with every potential Mrs. Right you meet, within the first moments of making the realization that yeah, you could tap that for the rest of your life, you need to ask yourself this very, very important question:

Is She Batshit Crazy?

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Title Wife Test: An Introduction, and Batshit Crazy
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 23
Comments 30
Date 05 May 2016 02:43 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

But if your potential woman has issues complying with her medication schedule, that's a red flag. If she misses time from work because "I just wasn't feeling good", then that's a red flag. If she displays manic or outrageously flaky behavior, then that's a red flag. Too many red flags . . . and then there's a flag on the play.

[–]TRP_Lee_zard1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Exactly, the main point I made with my LTR: she hardly ever follows through. Said she will get up early and go to the gym - sleeping late etc. Not for the fact that she would go to the gym, but if she drops her plans and intentions as easily just because it is comfortable, easier - that's one of my main red flags.

I would also add another from my flags: allow her to do almost anything, check how much she will push when she feels comfortable (she will stop trying after marriage, so best to show her that she can stop trying sooner and then dump her lazy ass). This is intended to show if a girl is capable of any self control (I'm sure there are ones like this).

Quick story: I once confronted my LTR about not going to some class in the evening because "she had to plan her flat layout" when I got back I can see her watching tv series or some shit. When I confronted her that she doesn't follow through she would burst with anger that it's her plans and if she doesn't feel like it, she doesn't have to go. I was laughing so hard i almost pissed myself. It was like a red neon sign on her forehead "AWALT".

[–]BiggestOfBosses-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Well, to put it frankly, you fucked up.You really have no business telling her what to do or that you're displeased with the way she's conducting her own affairs. I found that the hard way.

Just let her do her own thing. You're not her father. You're not there to educate her. If the shit she does does not align with your vision you shouldn't be dating her (I'm not saying dump her the moment she strays).

[–]TRP_Lee_zard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

How does that line up with the idea of captain amd first mate? Following through is what makes the real difference. Never said that I tell her what do do, just that I expect her to do what she said she will do. I expect that of everyone.

I despise people that make promises and when time comes they check out, because it might be difficult.

However I did fuck up by letting her move in, wasn't that RP aware at the time and it seemed as "nice" and "kind" move...there is a name for it in here ;-)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This view completely ignores training a woman in any capacity.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

When I got married I had a list of must not haves and I neglected to focus on the must haves.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm going to be posting more from his series as we go, he does also address the must-haves.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Going to second adderall.

While I'm only a sample size of 1, it largely came about through just not hitting any dealbreakers. Like the bitch management guide, she just never had them.

The issue came up with grown up responsibilities, owning real estate, and other financial connections... Those are going to happen if you're in a LTR, the only question is how much.

In retrospect, I find the process changes from a vetting, to an active leading and mentoring. Women are bad with money, responsibilities and stress. Having your shit together will really ease things down the line.

Obviously keep incomes and spending money separate. A large general coffer will just have your money disappear. But in my experience, a lot of the failures guys talk about in their relationships fall under two camps. Sex and money. In the former, they neglected being attractive. In the latter, they neglected to notice that she wasn't fiscally responsible, and didn't set boundaries, expectations, and leadership in that department.

Though some girls want the wedding, but never realize it comes with a husband. Those kind of last minute crazies are a concept in and of itself. Married at 32, instantly shutting off the sex tap, pregnant by 'forgot the pill' saving the best...

Those really take time to vett for, and only sloppy women show their cards before it's too late. At that point, knowing about the wall, girls not being like that anymore, and other standard milestones are your best defense really.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (12 children) | Copy

I concur with screening, vetting, selecting, hunting, or whatever term floats your boat. Still, I want to list a couple caveats:

1) A man should be open to a relationship without looking for the relationship. There is a huge difference. The woman needs to earn and win your commitment.

2) There are no unicorns. Do not even look for one. Every great woman you ever met was made. You didn't see a unicorn. You saw a mirage created by a great man.

[–]nygeHuston0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are no unicorns. This is true. However, there are girls who have been raised by a good father and respect themselves. Although it is rare in today's society, and they still have all of the traits of a woman and are vulnerable to all the tricks of RP, they are much less likely to cheat or do other unfavorable things in an LTR. It is possible to find one of these women who will not cheat on you with a high probability and as the societal pressure increases on her, after having multiple kids, having a large presence in a community that shames infidelity, belonging to a church etc. will stay faithful until old age when she really isn't craving sex as much anyway.

There are no unicorns. That doesn't mean that every girl will cheat. But still AWALT of course.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are no unicorns. Do not even look for one. Every great woman you ever met was made. You didn't see a unicorn. You saw a mirage created by a great man.

Yes, this is great advice. I was vetting a plate for LTR status, and after a while I just stopped thinking about it. I already made up my mind that I decided she was worthy of my committment, but I was still holding back on a committment because of some yellow flags. After thinking about it for a bit, I realized that every woman will have yellow flags because unicorns don't exist.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy

There are no unicorns. Do not even look for one.

I have to disagree. You can find women that are like unicorns, that are easier to "make". Conservative, religious women tend to make great, submissive wives. They tend to look for strong leaders. They've been taught more virtuous values than your average bar floozy. If you want a wife/ltr, look for these kinds of women. You don't want to have an uphill battle.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

They are better bets for sure.

But, they are not special and trustworthy enough to take the risk of a marriage contract. I've railed plenty of "good girls", always the same story, she never does this etc etc

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

We've already established that a marriage contract is a bad idea. Broken records tend to be useless. LTR, marriage-in-name-only, religious-ceremony-marriage only, blahblahblah. It's a waste of time to go down this road again.

No woman is ever 100% on point. You bet on a horse with a better coat and stronger legs because, shit, it's healthier, and has a smaller chance of screwing you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

The disagreement is on Unicorns existence. They are so rare (like none) that its a waste of time to look for one.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Every great woman you ever met was made.

I never said unicorns exists. I was saying you could get someone like a unicorn. As you said, great women are made. I was building on that. Try reading what I wrote.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

My exact statement was there are no unicorns.

You said "I disagree."

If you came for drama, wrong place. This is TRP.

If you want to have an actual discussion, then submit a post stating that Unicorn-like women exist and make your case. I promise you that your ideas will be debated and appreciated.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I did make an effort at actual discussion

I have to disagree. You can find women that are like unicorns, that are easier to "make". Conservative, religious women tend to make great, submissive wives. They tend to look for strong leaders. They've been taught more virtuous values than your average bar floozy. If you want a wife/ltr, look for these kinds of women. You don't want to have an uphill battle.

So there's that

If you came for drama, wrong place. This is TRP.

k. So far the conversation quality is below what I'm used to in MRP anyway.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think you accomplished what you wanted here. Have a great evening.

[–]Bielzabutt1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just an experience note on crazy. I know a woman that has no problem admitting out loud that she carries a ziplock bag of her own feces in the trunk of her car, in case she sees her ex on the street, so she can open it up and throw it at him. He pumped and dumped her over a course of a couple months.

[–]LosingMoneyAllDay1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

He gave her such a good dicking. That emotional Rolla coaster seems to have been so great that she relIves it by keeping her own human feces close at hand.

That's what I aspire to be, sexually.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I hope not!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Probably my favorite TRP blog as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Pre-screening is YUGE. I knew what I wanted. A younger, religious, conservative leaning, low partner count, submissive, fun, similar (in ways), different (in ways), etc. I had a hefty list that may or may not be valuable here. The takeaway is that it works if you stay on top of your shit. If you don't know what you want then why would you make a choice?

Plates are like jobs, LTRs are like careers. You can pick up or drop a plate, no problem. If you're going for a career, it's something you have to want, something valuable, and the same goes for an LTR. A man shouldn't choose a career without know what he wants out of it, and the same goes for relationships similar to marriage.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Plate/job and LTR/career is a good analogy. Jobs come and go. Careers are more valuable. Not invaluable, but more important

[–]nygeHuston0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I support more posts like these. Although society is FUCKED and doesn't support the family unit at all, that doesn't mean it's not a good thing. I, for one, would love to impart my knowledge onto a few sons and live on through them in a way. Plus, I think that RP concepts are actually good for the world and more RP men having children is good, providing they haven't misunderstood the main tenets.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Lots of people are on anti-depressants, myself included. I can't fault a woman for being on them either because that would make me a hypocrite. Making sure that her crazy is compatible with your crazy is definitely the way to look at it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He does make a note here on that:

The fact is that many mental illnesses can be effectively treated medically these days. But if your potential woman has issues complying with her medication schedule, that's a red flag. If she misses time from work because "I just wasn't feeling good", then that's a red flag. If she displays manic or outrageously flaky behavior, then that's a red flag. Too many red flags . . . and then there's a flag on the play.

[–]NeoreactionSafe-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

In another top level post (Masculine Polarity means you win the Game with her) I was making a similiar argument.

Dating, Plating, all the stuff you do with a woman is a test.

You are supposed to be applying Game to her so that you develop a pattern of masculine and feminine polarity.

If this is a success... if she likes and is comfortable in a feminine role with you "above" her in a masculine role then you have the basis of something to take seriously.

If not... well just forget about it.

Either Next her or Use her as a Plate.

It can be difficult for the less intuitive folks when a woman lies to you and you can't see through it. You need to become skilled at reading her lies.

If you don't know when she lies she has power over you.

But if you know her "tells" then her lies give you power.

You essentially need to win at Poker with her.

 



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