How many of us are on anti-depressants?

tr0n_cat · 2013-08-04T10:09:40+00:00

I take SSRIs. I had a somewhat traumatic childhood. My diagnoses are PTSD, GAD, and dysthymia, along with very mild hallucinogen persisting perception disorder. Diet and exercise are extremely important to me and any shrink worth his degree will tell you an hour of exercise a day will be far more beneficial than any pill out there.

I see being proactive about managing my mental health as working to be the best Man I can be and just another facet of my constant self-improvement and self-discipline. To suggest that needing medication makes a Red Pill man weak or "beta" is bullshit.

McMurphyCrazy · 2013-08-04T12:45:02+00:00

I probably would have ended up on SSRIs if not for the wonderful power of psilocybin mushrooms. Completely changed my life. Got me out of my shit job, got me training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and just altogether gave me a more positive outlook on life.

SoullessVagrant · 2013-08-04T09:33:25+00:00

I was on antidepressants some years ago; wouldn't recommend it.

legendofpasta · 2013-08-04T16:58:14+00:00

My anti depressant is the squat rack

icallmyselfmonster · 2013-08-04T10:21:58+00:00

I should be on them, I was on the autopsies l autistic spectrum, used to suffer from daily suicidal ideation. In Ireland men are not taken seriously for mental health issues, women on the other hand will be given valium for so much as a broken nail.

I have turned my life around, somewhat because I lost 50 pound in 11 months, restructuring how I view life. And altered my brain chemistry myself because doctors wouldn't take me seriously. I didn't use standard pharmaceuticals, but some that are available through alternative means, but are currently being researched.

Really_Puck · 2013-08-04T13:59:31+00:00

SSRIs are handed out like candy these days and I think they cause a lot more harm than good. Part of the problem is that it's a lot easier for a doctor/therapist to put people on medication that chemically cures their depression instead of engaging in therapy to actually cure it.

In my mind a SSRI should be a temporary measure, taken to ease your depression until therapy can cure it, not a permanent fix. There should be some sort of guideline that states that you can't be on a SSRI without also actively being in therapy.

The best way to treat depression is therapy, mixed with a good diet and exercise.

Personally, I don't take any drugs other than the occasional Tylenol/Advil for headache or body pain. Anything stronger than that is not needed. I'll also state that I haven't been to a doctor in over 10 years. I feel fine. There's no reason to go.

rebuildingMyself · 2013-08-04T09:45:33+00:00

"Qualified" for anti-deps in college, told the doctor no. Rode the depression out until I graduated and it went away (I hated my college and every hick in it).

Diet and exercise and a good group of friends are now my cure. Marijuana and studying hard was mine in college.

the_letter_P · 2013-08-04T10:01:28+00:00

I am sure this is an American thing myself.

I have never taken any medication and I don't know anyone who has. Hell, I don't even take asprin.

However, when I come on reddit and when I lived in America, everyone seemed to be on medication, and every other person seems to be 'depressed'. Seems very strange.

I am not demonising it or using it to brag, it is just an observation I have come across.

Scott555 · 2013-08-04T14:00:53+00:00

Didn't know I had "depression" for most my life. Self-medicated with weed for years. Examined things closer and figured it out. Saw a shrink, which was bullshit. Got proscribed pills, which were awful. Never again.

Ignored doctor's advice and started training. (bad knees and back from car accident in the 90s) Was a bittersweet discovery that was the problem all along. Just needed to exert myself more.

Still get dark now and then, but I know what it is and it's got little power over me anymore.

zionController · 2013-08-04T11:48:44+00:00

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thataccountabout · 2013-08-04T13:30:19+00:00

I come from a family of medicated people. Out of the six of us, three have been on antidepressants, two (including myself) have spent a majority of our adult lives stoned multiple times a day, while the only one to not take drugs has been diagnosed with OCD.

Both my father and mother have admitted to mental illness running in their family. Mainly we are all stuck in our heads. It's not fun, I fantasize about hanging myself from time to time. Kept a past attempt hush-hush from family.

TRP is helping, therapy is helping, and the gym is helping. My biggest concern right now is focus. Recently, I posted about making finding a passion your passion, but with my mind racing constantly (Seriously, it only slows down after a long workout) I have such a hardtime concentrating on anything. That even though I read things all the time, I rarely remember them and thus never apply them.

Seriously, Red Pill knowledge has been one of the few things that has actually resonated with me. Finding drive to do something you care about is the most important thing one can do with their life. Honestly though, I just can't focus on what it is I should be doing. I feel no burning desire to do anything and yet when I do nothing, I feel the most depressed and suicidal. I'd rather just sit in my box and tear things down because it's easier.

As a man, chances are very high that no one is going to do anything for you. Antidepressants will be prescribed because they are easy. We are a society built on making things easy. Easy to the point that people like me don't have the faintest fucking clue what to do to create a worth wild challenge for themselves. I often wish for someone to take my hand and show me the ropes of finding what it is I care about, but seeing as how I'm a man, making finding my passion my passion will have to do for now.

roe_ · 2013-08-04T19:44:05+00:00

My wife is on SSRIs. The story goes - without warning, she was suddenly just sad and moody all the time, for months straight. There were no "external" reasons for this. She got diagnosed, started the drugs, did a round of CBT, started going to the gym several times a week. Things have been basically normal since then.

blackhawksoccer · 2013-08-04T13:58:26+00:00

I medicate my personal problems the old fashioned way, liquor and loose women.

RedSunBlue · 2013-08-04T10:59:56+00:00

I'm on anti depressants for depression and anxiety, I tried easing off them but i was grumpy all the time so i went back on them. I read on here that low testosterone can cause depression, anxiety and brain fog but I'm not sure if testosterone is worth getting checked at age 17.

2013-08-04T11:24:02+00:00

Nope, never. Had a great childhood, lovely parents.

2013-08-04T12:41:12+00:00

Dont forget the terrible side effects... weight gain, kidney damage, etc.

Drvibe · 2013-08-04T13:15:32+00:00

I am from Canada and I don't take medication for shit. I used to take medication for asthma when I was younger but that is about it.

kingssman · 2013-08-04T14:22:04+00:00

Used to be on anti depressants (little blue pills) , which ironically fitted my blue pill phase in college and post college.

After a while I stopped taking them because I just didn't want to. Joined a gym, started keto, lost 40lbs. Cloths fit, got a better paying job (lack of $ really adds to depression), discovered redpill , began to apply "not giving a fuck". No longer needing anti depressants

Offensive_Brute · 2013-08-04T16:50:48+00:00

do booze and masturbation count as anti-depressants?

2013-08-04T17:39:40+00:00

I suffer from BPD and take SSRIs. My lifestyle: I work a lot, go to the swimming pool once a week, don't go out very often and don't have a relationship.

Amuro_Rey · 2013-08-04T20:11:38+00:00

I've had two family members use antidepressants for a while. One went totally bland for the duration; no emotional highs or lows. Which meant no bouts of 'depression' but no passion or moxy either. After they stopped, they became human again. The other person in my family that used antidepressants became very feminine. They became a wispy, syrupy guy that asked women where they got their shoes from... Now that could be unrelated to antidepressants, but all I know is he wasn't like that before antidepressants, and after using antidepressants he went back to his previous delta male.

As such, I'll never do them. I've yet to see anyone in person that took antidepressants and found themselves filled with zest for life.

RedHonest · 2013-08-04T21:38:03+00:00

Nope. No real issues with depression that weren't related to where I was in life. Took the red pill rather than the blue pill to deal with my depression: Moved out on my own away from family, learned game, and invested in myself.

VZPurp · 2013-08-04T22:21:54+00:00

We will not look back on these pharmacological abominations kindly. Good cash crop for the pharmaceutical industry, however.

iseeyou1312 · 2013-08-04T22:30:21+00:00

I've witnessed the first hand, long-term effects of anti-depressants/psychotic meds on a close relative. Will NEVER be taking them.

2013-08-10T01:42:24+00:00

I take two red pills everday!

2013-08-04T09:50:27+00:00

In which smurfs are revealed to be depressed suicidal head cases. What a surprise. /s

Opioidus · 2013-08-04T10:12:36+00:00

Do not take that shit, it's just a convenient way for both parties to avoid dealing with underlying issues. Please consider going to a psychoanalyst or some similar practitioner, they put the time and effort to really listen to your problems, guide you through a careful process of self-examination and give you enough time to get comfortable with the pace of your progress, while addressing real issues and traumas that made you depressed/angry/whatever in the first place.

These drug oriented therapies only treat the obvious symptoms of your suffering. The first time I went to a psychiatrist he prescribed medicine after ten minutes, and after that it was all about adjusting the dose! It didn't help me at all. I was always very critical of the pseudo-scientific nature of psychoanalysis and went in with a very sceptical mind, but after a couple of sessions I was seeing real improvement in my life. I suggest staying as far away as possible form drugs, and seeking talk-therapy oriented methods instead.

2013-08-04T18:53:42+00:00

Does methylfolate count?

Staple_Stable · 2013-08-04T22:12:04+00:00

Not me, but my younger brother saw a psychiatrist from ages 16-19. He was first diagnosed with mild depression, PTSD, and then later with bi-polar disorder.

I remember going through some tough times at his age as well so I was pretty ok with the mild depression diagnosis (the PTSD really made no sense to me), and even the medication that he was prescribed (can't remember everything, but abilify was one of them). He also took sleeping aids and at that time he was binge drinking once a week and smoking weed daily (psychiatrist advised against this, though she knew) before going to bed, and cigarettes every now and then to calm his anxiety (he also had medication for this).

After awhile I really started to get worried. I'd never been really close with my brother but I was absolutely sure he did not need to be as drugged out as he was. I knew him better than a psychiatrist regardless of how close we were and I started getting on his case about drinking/smoking while on medication. My brother was always one of those smart but unmotivated/what's the point kids. He is about as smart as me, but although I got straight A's in HS and went to a top college, he was barely getting by with C's most of the time. He would stay at home and play LoL/Dota all day (I did this with Starcraft so I didn't see that much of a problem, though at the time I had really good grades and had a part time job as well) and then go to school and do nothing.

The medication only made everything worse. He was completely lethargic and he gained a ton of weight. At his heaviest he was like 205 at 5'10" which is not that bad, but he literally never exercised. I kept pushing him to start lifting with me, get a part time job, and to slowly get off the medication. Nothing really changed until he went to community college. His first semester grades were terrible, and it was at that point he was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.

At this point I was 100% convinced the psychiatrist had no idea what she was doing. I told him to get a second opinion because that sounded like bullshit to me. He ignored me at first, but after he got on the medication he started to have really bad anxiety attacks and he actually started to have the classic manic/depressive cycle. They were so bad that he just stopped taking the medication straight up (against her advice) because the sides were way worse. At this point he started to wise up and he told her he wanted a second opinion. He later told me that he noticed her attitude change to annoyed/betrayed (as if he was doing something wrong by questioning her authority). Like I said, he's a smart guy so this came off as really wrong to him.

He never saw a second opinion but he slowly came off all the medication on his own. He stopped smoking after my parents found his weed stash and he started to actually feel guilty for spending their money on stupid shit. Later gave me his box of cigarettes and told me he didn't want them anymore (Parents later found it in my drawer and thought I was smoking lol). He lost a ton of weight (got down to 150, and finally started hitting the weights with me) and his grades improved dramatically; he's getting ready to transfer into a University next year. He still drinks in moderation but he's way past the honeymoon stage at this point and knows how to hold his liquor.

He later told me that he felt the psychiatrist/medication was just giving him an excuse to not deal with problem on his own. That in retrospect he knows he should not have taken anything past the mild antidepressants, and that he's even pretty convinced he didn't need those. At one point he actually wanted to be a psychiatrist but after that whole debacle he was really discouraged by how everything was mishandled in his opinion.

AnasRexGottfried · 2013-08-04T22:28:22+00:00

Heh, never have, never will, take those low dose amphetamines. A very good friend of mine and all around decent person has all but burnt her brain out by a life-time of having Ritalin forced on her. Not to mention the other, anger-control drugs she must take to counteract the effects of the Ritalin.

AngryAngerson · 2013-10-21T05:07:39+00:00

However, certain medications — most notably, some antidepressants like Prozac — have also been linked to increase risk for violent, even homicidal behavior.

The mild atypical anti-psychotic Zyprexa, which I was prescribed about a month after detoxing off of heroin to cope with severe secondary withdrawals, makes me absolutely psychotically violent, fat, and lazy. I'd sit around all day doing nothing but eating hourly and anytime somebody dared to, like, knock on my door or acknowledge my existence it was all I could to do not to beat them with a baseball bat. Needless to say I dropped that pretty quick.

throwawaygonnathrow · 2013-08-04T09:58:11+00:00

What does this have to do with RP?

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-08-04T09:17:35+00:00

Occasionally I'll take some good herbal formulas, but nothing I need on a regular basis.

I've had great success treating people with scalp electro-acupuncture. Even the most difficult cases.

RedSunBlue · 2013-08-04T17:35:29+00:00

In my personal experience, people who use anti-depressants do not take any great interest in diet or exercise.

Oh, that's nice. Dude, all that you are doing is worsening the stigma against people with mental health problems.

If you are on some form of anti-depressant, I'd like to know why you were prescribed it and what your lifestyle is like.

You're acting like a douche bag. Depressed people do not exist simply to bring you amusement.

SSRI Stories - A collection of news stories of violent behavior associated with SSRI use.

Oh, that makes sense, because you think anyone who has depression is violent, even though depression is not usually associated with violence.

Besides, this post isn't even related to The Red Pill. Why don't you post this shit in /r/CircleJerk. You can say, "Does anyone else hate people who have a mental illness? They're all dangerous and violent and should be locked up, amirite?" Seriously, just eat shit. You're a worthless and despicable human being.

RedSunBlue · 2013-08-04T09:26:50+00:00

I'm not on anything, but I have taken a zoloft on a lark once. It didn't really do anything for me.

Title	How many of us are on anti-depressants?
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