How many of you have actually read the sidebar?

Ascimator · 2020-04-15T17:58:03+00:00

"just read all those 50 books before you say anything about the ideas presented across them bro"

WIA20XX · 2020-04-15T18:32:08+00:00

LOL, I did. not 100% of the linked material, but all the sidebar and most of the linked material.

But I doubt that most people did. It reminds me of my early days in /r/Fitness I studied their sidebar and the wiki, and then I noticed that 80% of the questions were always the same basic questions so I started commenting on how easy it was to find the answer in evry well written and comprehensive wiki/sidebar and posted the link.

The result: downvoted to oblivion and - often - being called "name" often starting with "as" and ending with "shole". #LOL

I have learned my lesson and stopped those comments and with time, abandoned the sub. And that is the "problem" with a lot of "technical" subs, once they become even mildly popular they get flooded with - to put it mildly - low-quality content/contributions, and that's what happened to the TRP sub and the manosphere in general these days the noise-to-signal ratio is too high, contributing to the bad rep.

/Mic_drop

/Getting_off_the_soapbox

robot3000_01 · 2020-04-15T18:16:05+00:00

I have read all of it. The "Misandry Bubble" essay is white nationalist propaganda. (it literally whines about "white birth rates" and about Muslims taking over) If you look at who wrote it, the guy is a literal alt-righter.

The sidebar also used to link to a literal white nationalist blog, named Heartiste Chataeu, that has been banned now. This blog used to whine about interracial couples and advocated for banning women from voting.

Then you have the essay arguing that women are less mature than men because of biology. (based on 0 evidence)

The only serious parts are the rollo tomassi essays, but even he is highly biased and half of his theories are based on pure speculation. For example, look at his War Brides theory. While the phenomenon he describes is real, the reasons why he believes it exists are purely speculative. Not even based on evo psych research, just pure speculation.

FlavFal · 2020-04-15T18:00:38+00:00

There's no way I'd read all that autism.

Meydra · 2020-04-15T18:09:36+00:00

Being passively exposed to that stuff on 4chan (and watching from the sidelines aka having been an incel) makes me "knowledgeable" enough for these shallow kinds of debates.

jigglypuff__0 · 2020-04-15T19:51:01+00:00

Oh I definitely haven’t. But y’all let the incels speak for you and you never ever correct them. So I just base my ideas on what men say here cause I don’t care to read that non sense.

2020-04-15T18:07:52+00:00

I've read it all, because I've been studying this shit like an anthropologist since college. Doesn't mean I agree with all of it.

DangZagnut · 2020-04-15T19:16:22+00:00

This is where the MGTOW side of red pill wins. We don't have long complicated essays and blogs and theories, we just take RP knowledge and create our own ideas and come to different conclusions with the information.

Except instead of worshipping pussy we just ignore the whole thing because, pfft, why bother?

Our ideas don't need a massive side bar. Our side bar is mostly just posts people wrote, or some standard RP books, which aren't even required reading to understand things.

We just deal in ideas. We don't require statistics to back it up, or some scientific method. We can but it's hardly necessary. That's where self-defined idea implementation wins.

Ideas:

Marriage is stupid and don't bother for the following reasons, a, b, c, d....
Cohabitation is stupid and here's why, a, b, c, d.....
Focus on you and your happiness.

Or to sum it up even simpler.

Ignore bitches; acquire riches.

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Tealllane · 2020-04-16T00:40:03+00:00

I haven't read the books, but I also haven't read most of the books I paid money for.

yasee · 2020-04-15T18:09:27+00:00

I read or at least skimmed most of the links (but not recently tbf)

2020-04-15T21:43:16+00:00

I have not. But if I’m misunderstanding Tomassi’s point behind red pill ideology, then that speaks a lot about how the fans interpret Tomassi’s ideas.

When I see “hurr durr AWALT, hypergamous sluts”. Then I call out the hypocrisy because men try to wife up the best looking chick. I’m then told “oh, well you just don’t understand that AWALT simply refers to that women have the capabilities to be like that doesn’t mean they’ll act on it.”

Okay..men have the capacity to murder and rape, AMALT! it doesn’t mean every man would actually want to do that.

The book is tinted in misogyny because it attributes character flaws to women, and ignores the male equivalent. Because Tomassi is taking traits and attributing it to a specific gender, instead of attributing it to both genders (men really aren’t greedy, manipulative assholes either? AMALT).

Salty-Bastard · 2020-04-16T01:42:36+00:00

I read every post from 2012-2015 and the sidebar before I made one comment on that sub. This was all pre Trump, pre black pill, pre incel invasion, pre 100k users. Different world back then.

sivarias · 2020-04-16T20:41:01+00:00

Most Redpillers don't read the sidebar.

Lurk more and you'll realize that.

That being said, this arguement has been made before, and it's been found that most of the redpillers and blackpillers who debate here haven't read it either.

Title	How many of you have actually read the sidebar?
Author	tom-anonymous
Upvotes	8
Comments	69
Date	April 15, 2020 5:55 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/g1x0l7/how_many_of_you_have_actually_read_the_sidebar/
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