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Do not let them shame you for being a man

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This morning I was reading the top askTRP posts of the week, and stumbled upon a thread of a guy being threatened by some white knight, telling him that his actions were making the group of females they are friends with uncomfortable, "including his girl". This story sent me back a few years, at the beginning of my TRP journey, and it was probably the most significant period of my journey to reconquer my masculinity.

I had always been a very popular kid, I got laid very early at 14 and kept it pretty steady for the average teen until I hit my 19ish years. Fucking acne had finally caught up to me, and while it started pretty mild, it soon turned me into some pizza faced ugly bastard. This shit creeps up on you hard, it destroys your appearance from the outside, but it does even more damage on the inside. Long story short, I lost all my mojo, I was scared of interactions with the general population, I felt disgusting. As with any negative feedback loop, my own negative thoughts turned girls away and soon I found myself at rock bottom, on almost a 2 year dry spell with zero confidence, convinced I was going to die alone.

Then I fucking got the clearance for accutane. For those who don't know, this is easily the greatest achievement of mankind. In less than 2 months, my skin cleared up and I felt like I was waking up from a horrible nightmare. I got off with extremely minimal scarring and you would never believe I had severe acne. This was during winter. I started looking online for advice on how to get girls because I had completely forgotten how to interact with females and my inner game was still nowhere to be found. After watching tons of stupid videos from scam pickup artists, I eventually found TRP. I knew instantly that this was a game changer, and I read all the material at the time and started working on myself.

Summer came by and I had managed to get back into the mix, attended a few parties and became a regular face among my group of friends and some females we were hanging out with. I lived on a coastal city at the time, and summer meant holidays and lots of get-togethers where friends of friends come, so a lot of opportunity. I was slowly trying to make moves but I was still very hesitant to do the one things that was the main advice on the sub at the time, showing sexual intentions. The boys I hung out with were all very blue-pill, and while we were regularly hanging out with girls, nobody was making big moves, we were all talking a big game but nobody was getting any pussy. I got pretty tired of the dynamic and decided that I would go all-in or bust. I was going to test the teachings of TRP, even if that meant being rejected.

After an afternoon at the beach, I kinda caught one of the girls, I'll call her C, checking me out. She wasn't really part of the group, she was friends with one of the girls and she came occasionally. We had had good conversation on two occasions at parties, but I kind of ignored the signs and pussied out. She was easily the hottest girl and was a regular subject of conversation between us guys. After driving home, I decided to add her to our group chat, and proposed that we all meet at the beach again the next day. She declined and said she only could the next week. I then typed a message on my phone, and froze. Should I really send that? No way man, that's inappropriate and way too aggressive. I'm definitely going to get rejected. Everybody will make fun of me. My entire being was trying to make me delete that message. Yet deep down I knew I had to do it, I had to see for myself. Took a deep breath, fuck it, press send.

"Cmon C, no way I can wait a week before I see your body again". I felt a rush of adrenaline after sending that. I hadn't made a move in years. Immediately a couple of guys react, "loooooool", "wtf bro". I'm still waiting for her answer. I keep checking my phone impatiently, getting nervous. Nothing. A couple hours later, I get a private message from her. "Hey smolzino, honestly I don't think we know each other well enough for you to make these kind of comments in front of everyone like that". Another guy from the group writes in the chat "dude, creepy lol." Well, shit. That didn't go well, what should I do now? "Haha it's not that serious" I reply. Fuck I feel like a loser now. TRP was wrong, I'm a cuck and being sexual is not for me. I'm gonna have to apologize.

She replies, "I just don't like being made fun of like that". Being made fun of? What is she on about? "Well C, this was a compliment actually". Then it hit me. This girl, as hot as she is, is actually insecure about her body. At this moment I realized that I wasn't in the wrong. I was in control, I made her react strongly and now I'm in her head. We text a little more, I slowly change the conversation to a more playful, flirty tone, and she opens up.

Next day, I go on a hike with 2 other guys and 2 girls. It's a hot day, and after we are done we decide to chill next to a river in the shade. No one took any swimwear, but I really want to swim. I take off my clothes, get down to my boxers and the girls express their regrets, saying they wish they took their swimsuits. I tell them that I am glad they didn't, because there's no way they're not joining, in a playful tone. The boys look a bit puzzled, but also a bit excited. I'm finally saying what they all have been wanting to say for months. I'm making shit happen. The girls chat a bit to each other and they strip down. They're both topless and in thongs. It's all good, we can be sexual in front of each others now. We all make some jokes, like whistling and shit. The whole dynamic of the group has changed drastically in the span of a day. Now the girls are opening up, we aren't just sidekicks anymore. On the drive back, they tell me that C had talked to them about me the whole evening yesterday, and that she's super down. This is the first time in 6 months that there is any kind of gossip in our group. Before that it was just a group of cucks thirsting over some females but never making any moves.

This is getting long, but eventually the next week, we all had a barbecue at one of the girl's place for her birthday, got drunk and hit the club. I spent the whole night being flirty with all the girls, and eventually hooked up with C. All my other friends hooked up with a girl that night as well. And it all happened because I finally decided that it was okay to be a man and go after the girl openly and unapologetically.

The following month I got 4 more girls riding that high. I had been with 5 girls my whole life prior to that, and beat that in a month.


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Title Do not let them shame you for being a man
Author smolzino
Upvotes 896
Comments 113
Date 17 April 2020 11:11 AM UTC (6 months ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
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[–]VigilantRedRooster[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy

I like this field report. Early successes, obstacles, overcoming them; a conversational gaffe that is recovered by maintaining frame. A good read for those early in their Red Pill journey.

[–]DeficientDeity231 points232 points  (2 children) | Copy

I liked this read bro, good shit. After this lockdown is over i'm back in the game asap.

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[–]kalashnick22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I could see this movie playing out before my eyes as I read down the page

[–]SoulRemedy85 points86 points  (30 children) | Copy

Agree with accutane, it's a miracle drug and saved my ass too.

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[–]DeborahBinLaden18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

I do carnivore diet, no carbs. It’s been a fucking miracle for my hormonal acne. Like a baby’s bum

[–]unn4med8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Since your acne is hormonal, have you tried being less horny?

[–]EpixJacob3122 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear that man. I had it bad too. What helped me was less dairy and more water. I also tried to avoid processed, sugary foods. Acne is hell man, I know.

[–]Schwaggaccino45 points46 points  (16 children) | Copy

Be careful with Accutane boys. Accutane is a give and a take. While it might clear up your acne, it might also destroy your liver among other bad side effects. Not saying it’s like that for everyone but it’s a roll of the dice really. It’s also why it’s prescribed last after all other treatments have been exhausted. For me topical doxycycline did the trick and you don’t even have to use it daily. Only side effects will be a rash from being in the sun. That was my miracle drug. Not trying to make anyone paranoid or discourage them but know the risks and don’t be surprised pikachu if they do happen.

Source: med student

[–]mastersofwar319 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy

It really is, I started taking it junior or senior year of high school and I had to stop because my joints ached so bad it was affecting baseball, particularly my knees.

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[–]ShinjiBoi1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

What side effects dude? Other than dry skin I had nothing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Is Accutane supposed to clear the skin completely, in the sense that there is not a single pimple? I began at 20 without really ever experiencing serious acne, just because I wanted to have zero pimples and I have been taking it for 7 months but there are still some pimples on my forehead, am I doing something wrong?

[–]ShinjiBoi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It 100% clears it for me, for life. And I was just about to start scarring with my fucking face covered. Go on it.

[–]Ballislife70 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

How long have you been clear since usinng accutane?

[–]ShinjiBoi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've legit been clear for...11 years. You basically never have to wash your face again (If you don't want). It was life-changing

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[–]ShinjiBoi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

fake news by dermos who's job it basically removes

[–]falafelman2210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I took doxycycline for 3 months and it mostly went away from my forehead. I still have some on my shoulders and back, and I use PanOxyl in the shower. Any other recommendations to help with shoulders/back (I’m 20 btw)?

[–]odaklanan_insan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, I discovered that back in college when I used to practice kickboxing 5 days a week. I never had a severe case of acne ever since I hit puberty however, I had a lot of acnes on my shoulder/back after I started kickboxing.

The answer is a dry body. I was training in the afternoon and if I don't have a plan for the evening I delayed taking a shower till just before bed time or sometimes even the morning (post-training laziness). All that sweat and body grease hosts some nasty germs which gives you the shoulder acnes. You should take a shower right after you sweat to avoid this.

[–]Cloak770 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I just got prescribed oral doxycycline instead of acutance (due to corona I can't get a prescription without an in-person meeting). I've already had acne for 2 years so I hope I don't scar like fuck.

Do you continually take it every day? If you still have acne in your 20s its because something is wrong.

[–]falafelman2210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I stopped after 3 months because my face is mostly cleared up, but I have some on my upper chest and back. Should I go for something stronger or just keep using the cream?

[–]mcmwhite8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

next week, we all had a barbecue at one of the girl's place for her birthday, got drunk and hit the club. I spent the whole night being flirty with all the girls, and eventually hooked up with C. All my other friends hooked up with a girl that night as well. And it all happened because I finally decid

Agree with that. Roacutane (as they call it here in the UK) completely changed my life. Shame the doctors waited 4 years before telling me it existed.

[–]awildbannanaphone3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

imma hijack the top comment here to give a shout out to epiduo.. if youre not a severe case its a great medicine that'll work wonders to quickly put down breakouts.

[–]ixDamocles2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same here, I wish I took it years ago.

[–]volvostupidshit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also try tretinoin coupled with moisturizer and sunblock. Those are the only 3 skincare products you should be using.

[–]Mazzaleen10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can second this. From 11 to 18 i had acne vulgaris which made me shy and think I was ugly at times. 3 months on this course and my acne is literally non-existant. Unfortunately it gave me high liver enzymes (or.some shit) so my Dr freaked out and told me stay it off for a few weeks. Then covid-19 hit so there's no way to get a bloodtest on the NHS. Hopefully this disease can fuck off asap so I can finish my course.

[–]ShinjiBoi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I went to like 5 doctors before getting on it. Each of those motherfuckers gave me some bullshit cream that didn't work. And then they said "Is he using it right?" Motherfucker I used it religiously, you just keep pushing some shit medicine instead of prescribing me accutane so I could be done with it.

I think accutane makes their jobs useless, so they don't want to give it. Would rather kids suffer in shame.

[–]Zech4riah76 points77 points  (28 children) | Copy

After pussying out in real life, you did an ultimate alpha move and expression of sexual intention by sending semi-pedestalizing message in a group chat to a girl - possibly making her feel slutty in front of everyone...?

I'm glad the message didn't fuck things up too much and you managed to actually be the cool sexual guy afterwards in real life.

[–]smolzino[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

It was cringe I agree. This was 8-9 years ago and I was pretty clueless. It seemed like a bold move at the time. I definitely didn't have the confidence to do it in person back then. Now I'm a completely different guy, I used to run very aggressive game before my LTR

[–]FamousFriend59 points60 points  (14 children) | Copy

I cringed so hard at that part. His friends were right, it was creepy.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (9 children) | Copy

Shit it paid off eventually though. Fortune favours the bold.

[–]420chiefofZEP15 points16 points  (8 children) | Copy

It could have easily gone wrong though. All it takes is the white knights to get pissy and start ostricizing you from the group.

[–]1empatheticapathetic8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

So what? He sheds his white knight friends, finds a new group and learns not to make that mistake again. The whole point of the post was taking a chance is better than not.

And yes I’m sure we can all think of plenty of examples of where that is not the best solution, but at that point you’re being pedantic. Read the situation, take a risk, see what happens.

[–]unn4med1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

They were his friends at the end of the day

[–]420chiefofZEP20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy

Friends flip quick if they think it will get them some pussy.

[–]unn4med4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe. Not always. In this case he sounded close with his friends, but perhaps you’re right

[–]420chiefofZEP5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

True, I should've said not all. Some friends are better than others.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

You are such a pussy. Still in the mindset of giving a fuck what people think.

He would literally be losing nobody friends if that was to happen. It would still be a good thing

[–]420chiefofZEP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

People don't care what you think, think what ever you want. People do care about what you say. No point blowing up a social circle to make a weird off beat remark like he did.

[–]TheEgyptianConqueror35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would have maybe pm'ed that, but not in a GC, Jesus

[–]hockeyaddict8713 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Only reason it didn’t fuck things up is because the girl had low self esteem

[–]ek19955 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah this post seems like a lot of bs, who really fell for this?

[–]SeasonedRP7 points8 points  (11 children) | Copy

I agree. I'm reading this and thinking that the text was an example of what not to do. He's lucky that this girl was extremely interested. If she hadn't had such a high interest level, he would have come across like a desperate chump to her.

[–]imstunned18 points19 points  (10 children) | Copy

Nonsense. He did exactly what he should do. He announced his intention directly and publicly. That's bold. And who gives a shit how white knights react? If she wasn't interested, this didn't change anything. That seems unlikely though, because according to OP she had indicated interest. It turns out that she was interested, and it seemed to have a pretty immediate impact.

Too many here worried about white knight reactions and a reaction from a truly uninterested chick. They're not the goal. The goal is moving the needle forward boldly with a chick that is interested or is on the fence. If you worry too much about what you say and how you say it, it'll be obvious and chicks definitely don't dig that. They want confidence. It's the one universal term they use to describe what they want. And this message was the definition of confidence. Good job OP.

[–]novalentineforyou9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Some of our brethren intelligent enough to temporarily escape the tard wrangler might think that being direct is what matters, but that's only partly true. The right sort of flirting is direct, public (or rather, doesn't hide itself), and most importantly has plausible deniability. Saying "let's go fuck at my apartment" within 10 minutes of meeting women rarely works, but saying "let's grab a drink sometime" works well.

[–]imstunned7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Cmon C, no way I can wait a week before I see your body again"

But saying I think you're hot is not saying 'let's go fuck at my apartment'

Again, she did not reject him. The only ones rejecting him were the wannabes... How many times have you heard a chick decry the arrogant asshole, and later you hear she blew him later when no one was looking.

Be careful what you say and how you say it; if that works for you, fine. I really don't give a shit. But I have zero issue with what OP said (even though he had an issue with it). It works and tends to work. Chicks need plausible deniability that they initiated sex. Dudes don't need plausible deniability that we're sexual beings that go after what we want. He told her she was hot. And he did it publicly. Any chicks in that group would have secretly wondered/wished it were them while pretending otherwise. Who cares what the masturbaters think or would have done? I know I wouldn't. And if they kicked me out of their pathetic group, I wouldn't care.

[–]Noodlesoupe22 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

Nah it’s spergy and it ruins the vibe. Either hit on her irl or pm her not in a group chat

[–]novalentineforyou9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, it's spergy because flirting is supposed to have plausible deniability. She should be guessing exactly how interested you are. She should be able to plausibly say "We weren't actually doing anything" to her judgmental friends. She shouldn't have to commit to anything or take responsibility for her feelings or your feelings. As soon as OP bought a billboard with "wanna fux?" printed on it, he took away all of the above. He could have instead said he wanted to see her sooner but not explicitly say that he wanted to see her tits sooner. Not being able to handle subtle social cues, subtext, or wordplay is actually autistic and anyone who actually just says "wanna fux?" to the 2-3 women who talk to them per year is coping hard.

[–]imstunned1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I wouldn't ask for your permission, and I really wouldn't give a shit how you characterized it. lol

[–]novalentineforyou2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

you would get excluded from the group for being a sperg, without your permission

[–]imstunned0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

But I'd end up with the girl, and that's all that matters. If a comment like OP made wound you up that much, like I said, I wouldn't really give a shit. Feel free to keep masturbating in your safe space.

[–]novalentineforyou4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

How are you gonna get in these group chats if they exclude your sperg-ass as soon as you show your power level? Keep LARPing.

[–]imstunned1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why would I want to be in a group chat with chronic masturbaters?

[–]DerekMorganBAU58 points59 points  (1 child) | Copy

When I was a 19 year old virgin one of my acquaintances dated a 28 y/o chick that lived in Florida. He added her to a group chat with me and like 10 of my homies.

I used to flirt with every bitch in the group for casual fun and it gave me a mixed rep to say the least but I ain't give a fuck and when I flirted with her she used to respond with trepidation. I'm talking shit like

Me: "Wat it do lil mama"

Her: "Haha I'm not a mother"

But suddenly one day she started messaging me in private and then I realized that she loved my advances. Apparently her man wasn't making her feel wanted enough cause he was shy but my forwardnees was refreshing to her.

Then that's when the video chats started and suddenly she's talking about dumping her man and wanting me to visit her. I was hella far and broke so that wasn't gonna happen and her man got pissed af when he found out about us flirting behind his back.

No one else in the group chat knew about the shit and we kept it under wraps but shit that situation taught me to always go for shit.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

fuck and when I flirted with her she used to respond with trepidation. I'm talking shit like Me: "Wat it do lil mama" Her: "Haha I'm not a mother"

My response would be

“Not yet 😏”

I’m known to do that in my friends group lol

[–]MysticalMike199026 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

that's dope that your boys picked up on you making the moves and followed suit. You led by example and it worked out for all of them. That's a good step towards being a leader my man.

[–]smolzino[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh definitely. We were all kind of new friends at Uni, and you know how it goes, sometimes boys talk themselves up and I think we were all suffering from some sort of bystander effect, holding each others back. I definitely embraced that leader role afterwards, even that night I was the one who pushed them to go for it since I knew I had one in the bag I was feeling some sort of magnanimous benevolence.

[–]MysticalMike19906 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't hold it over their head like you've got some sort of key, you're just as human as they are and not infallible. You should project benevolence from the place of empathy and not superiority. Just as you can understand that you are in a better position in reality then they may be, you could help them recognize the information they need to raise themselves up. Over time, you could have you a tight and understanding group of people you trust.

Life essentially is just you and the people you know overcoming hurdles your approach over time. Would you not want a trusty group of people to share information with?

[–]Xercister69 points70 points  (9 children) | Copy

I totally understand this and being saved from my blue pill ways I can see where a lot of this hits home.

First change I made when I went red. Drop every single blue pilled friend. They serve no purpose in the red journey. Friends are there to help and if they do not have the same mentality then they are of no help at all. This doesn't just apply to advice about women. Not going to take advice from a blue pilled person on anything, financial or job wise. Screw that. Give me the red pill thinking and someone who thinks the same. I know we will go places.

Second thing I did was stop messing with women who are insecure. Screw that. If a girl is insecure about herself then the chances are you will never see her true "inner beauty" as she is to afraid to show it. I'm also not going to make myself her personal pin cushion or her emotional tampon.

As far as game goes, I might be wrong on this but I've found that game is something I don't need to pick up women. I do epic shit for me. Not for them. I don't go out of my way to impress women at all, I just try to one up myself from day to day. Sometimes women notice this and sometimes they don't. I've had more conversations started by women about the things I've done and plan to do then anything that revolves around them. Now I'm not saying I don't care about them and wont listen to them, I just choose to focus on myself. If they want to join the ride, then I am all for it. When I find that special lady who wants to be down for forever, if that is possible, then she'll get all of my attention while I still do things for myself.

I really love seeing how guys are able to pull themselves out of the blue pill district and back into the red where they belong. I was raised by two lesbians with no positive male role model in my life so I got a late start in this race but if I can do it, anyone can do it.

[–]CrymsonPsychedelic17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

I totally agree with your "I do epic shit for me". I realized this a few months ago that I should live life so that I enjoy myself, because that's a source of confidence for me. If I feel comfortable and am doing things that make me feel alive then I just stop caring about what other people think about me, and I am able to truly live in the moment. This also has two more benefits: I temporarily become who I truly am, unfiltered, and the energy that I bring wherever I go is infectious because I start interacting with people for my own entertainment.

[–]Casd120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Seconded, I do shit to impress myself

[–]eldelezgon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What do you if you don't feel comfortable at the moment though? I've been reading TRP for a few years now, but I still feel like a retard when I try to become my "true self" in certain situations...

[–]CrymsonPsychedelic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'd have to say that half of the self-development towards becoming authentic is meditating daily. It helps with staying in the present moment by letting you realize that you're letting something affect your actions (most of the times anxiety about how other people would react to your actions). The second half is tricky because it's a cliche and really hard to give advice on how to actually achieve it, other than get out there, experience life and trust that you'll figure it out eventually. Namely you have to find yourself. Figure out who you are and how YOU enjoy interacting with other people. Personally I don't take things too seriously or seriously at all, which allows me to bypass the emotions that come with taking things seriously and stay in the mindset of "how can I make this moment more enjoyable for myself?". And I know that I enjoy wit, humor, sarcasm and cockiness.

[–]ZeppKfw4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

I feel like dropping all your blue pill friends is a bit overboard. They can be used for a multitude of things like further opportunities for networking, financial support may be possible, could be helpful for social proof, and maybe some more I couldn't think about.

Idk about you but for me I just keep everything diplomatic, and not show my red side to them openly. I do this probably because some of those guys are one of the best guys I've met. I think they'd still throw me under a bus for a girl tho.

[–]Xercister6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

I feel like dropping all your blue pill friends is a bit overboard. They can be used for a multitude of things like further opportunities for networking, financial support may be possible, could be helpful for social proof, and maybe some more I couldn't think about.

You're welcome to do what you want but my answer is still no. You are the sum of the 5 people you hang around the most, is what they say. I don't know about you but the idea of turning red pill is so you can better yourself and it does you no justice to have bill pill friends who cannot understand why you do things you do. All of the blue pill friends I HAD were very negative and pussies. To afraid to do the real things required to find women. I don't want those people hanging around me anymore.

In the end there is only one certain fact. This is your life and you gotta do what is best for you and not give a damn about what anyone else says. Yes, that applies to even here on the web. HAHA

[–]bigxands4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Surrounding yourself with the best people who have similar mindset is really important, that doesn’t mean be an asshole to them, just move on and do you and find better friends. Not saying you implied that but just adding my piece. If your friends aren’t devoted to self improvement as you are they’ll eventually hate you for how far you went without them.

[–]Xercister2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly! Thanks for pointing this out.

[–]pacjax15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

thank you based acne medication

[–]RagingMayo3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is sponsored by accutane.

[–]uwey7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Able to tank social shaming and ignore your fake enemy is sign of power.

You are not getting intimidated.

Know how to fight in the premise of law, better yet, don’t even start the fight. Act like everyone else to conceal your true intentions and subtly read others mind to learn their individual weaknesses.

Do not make opinion unless you are ready to be attacked. Ignore people will gain you a enemy.

Know how to use other’s hate and energy to make enemy, when you show greater power and capacity your enemy will flip to be your friends because they either fear, respect, or out of option to have to work with you.

Don’t ever let anyone know how your think (shut up), behave like everyone else, in occasion commit and act upon things with full measure and commitment with ferocious intensity. You will stun people and gather attention very effectively.

[–]3chazthundergut16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yea but I wouldnt do it over group chat

[–]Tek_Analyst11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because you’re focused on succeeding with women, instead of being the man you want to be.

[–]3chazthundergut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Huh? Because I dont want a group chat to know my personal business I'm focused on women?

What if the man I want to be is someone who doesnt have a bunch of people involved in his relationship?

[–]smilodoner5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

There's more to being a man than getting girls.

[–]Frich34 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I always do this. I may be in the room with a few women and a good looking chick comes in and they all look at me to see what my reaction is going to be. So I feel bad for looking at her ass or admiring her beauty. I hate it. It pisses me off. And the grocery store at the bars anywhere.

[–]mr_Tobbor7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Really you decide that you are a man so you get nude and swimm in front of girls. Then all guys and girls have some group sex. It's too beautiful. Congrats.

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[–]smolzino[S] 26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know. I typed all that shit down without thinking and then I was faced with the choice of deleting it, or posting it, or spending even more time trying to make it good. I went with just posting it because it's the better alternative. I won't deny that I know it's garbage haha.

The point of the story was that group dynamic and peer pressure can really inhibit us. But that in the end, we will always be rewarded for being true to our nature and not submitting to the sheep mentality.

At least give me a few dozen gold or smth

[–]1laserdicks8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Field reports are valid. It's another datum to add to our model and may fit similar circumstances we're in.

[–]DasWolffy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have a co-worker that tries to police my speech around women. He legit orders me to "watch my language". To which I reply "fucking make me. If you think you can." It normally ends there but sometimes he'll hit my gut or stomp on my feet whenever I say something he doesn't approve of. He gets so pissed when the women are receptive and giggle their asses off.

[–]FormerBradFutureChad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've never had severe scarring or cystic acne, but I do have a lot of it and definitely plays into my confidence I think. Any clue if it works/would be recommended with "mild" cases? Definitely looking more into it atm.

Great read

[–]Sickem_roy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Was creepy tho..ugh yikes lol

[–]RPOpenUp1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

She replies, "I just don't like being made fun of like that". Being made fun of? What is she on about? "Well C, this was a compliment actually". Then it hit me. This girl, as hot as she is, is actually insecure about her body. At this moment I realized that I wasn't in the wrong. I was in control, I made her react strongly and now I'm in her head. We text a little more, I slowly change the conversation to a more playful, flirty tone, and she opens up.

This part is very important, because of one reason only.

You held FRAME. Instead of saying sorry and entering her frame, you forced her to enter your frame by not giving a fuck and owning your behaviour. She budged and entered your frame. You showed her you are a sexual being and you are okay with that.

Post was a great read, since it's a great reminder that just by accepting reality(being sexual), means you're 10 steps ahead of the other non sexual males.

[–]smolzino[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I feel like this is a very important concept of RP that has been a bit diluted over the years. Now we tend to say "assume attraction and escalate" which is the manifestation of being sexual. But I feel that for newbies it's important to put it simply in a concise concept such as "be sexual". It was for me as I found the RP the most relevant advice. Most chumps problems stem from this, they're afraid of showing their sexual, seducing side. Afraid of being rejected, labeled as creepy, not being PC or showing dominant behavior in front of other males by fear of looking like an asshole.

I know that this was my main issue, I didn't rly have a problem with the details like shit tests, wittiness, charm. It was more about not wanting to be sexual in front of others, girls or guys, because it wasn't the standard. I was trying not to make anyone uncomfortable.

[–]RPOpenUp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly in the same boat.

That's the power of feminism. It fucks with your head so much that you even doubt your own decision making.

From time to time I'm also afraid plates will take something wrong and make a whole scenario out of it. You are right tho. For newbies it's important to remember that if they want sex, they should be sexual. Being sexual is not the hard part however. The hard part is to REMAIN sexual whenever someone calls you out of it. It's a normal thing after all. A lot of people are labelled as creepy when they do this, because they change their behaviour after they called out on this. Hence why Assume attraction and escalate is called for. In any case the're will allways be people, wether it be white nights or jeaulous girls who will try to shame you for being sexual. It shouldn't matter to you.

[–]oholandesvoador0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Although it was a good story, I can't ignore the fact that in the beginning, you said you got first laid at 14 and maintain a good steady until 19. Then at the end of the story you said you've been with 5 girls only before hooking up with another 4.

You wasn't at a good steady...

[–]smolzino[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

There was no hook-up culture in my time. It was possible but it's not like today, Tinder didn't even exist for example. I meant that I had several girlfriends, which at this time for my age was quite a steady stream of sex compared to the avg.

[–]oholandesvoador0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know why you downvoted me, just stated a fact.

What year was when you were 14?

[–]smolzino[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I didn't downvote you buddy. It was 2003-4

[–]rnsbrum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

LOL I read that post. Great job buddy!

[–]opper-hombre10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

awesome to see your confidence grow after gettin on that accutane.

Now if only they had a cure for my rosacea lol

[–]HonorThyselfBlessed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great post. I got the point of the story.

You took the plunge and commit and got what you wanted instead of trying to solve the solution in a roundabout way. Now, you feel great even greater. It's a great high. Better than if she someone bullshit way ended up with you. Congrats on the being able to take charge of your life.

Venturing into the jungle(unknown) is scary and that's why we stay in our bubbles(comfort zone).

[–]melted_Brain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can you link the asktrp thread?

[–]when_its_too_late0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow you an me went through almost the same shit. Down to the waterfall, no swim suits, whole nine yards! Except I moved to a rural fucking town with a bunch of lazy piece of shit overweight attention whores. It's so south they don't even know how to use internet. I need to get the fuck out.

[–]when_its_too_late0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow you an me went through almost the same shit. Down to the waterfall, no swim suits, whole nine yards! Except I moved to a rural fucking town with a bunch of lazy piece of shit overweight attention whores. It's so south they don't even know how to use internet. I need to get the fuck out.

This gives me more encouragement that I'm not the only one who says and does this stuff and makes shit happen, whose TIRED of being the one making shit happen but alas heavy is the head.

[–]LoneWolf0mega0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OPbdid you get keloids If you did how did you get rid of them

[–]Tek_Analyst0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good stuff man.

Save this post and if you ever lose your way again, come back and read it.

[–]RP_utiliser0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That bold move really wasnt cringe, you can say it was cringe all you want while watching the guy doing it getting his dick wet so whos winning? And its only “cringe” if he succumbs to what other people think or retracts it

[–]a_natural_0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

All this being apologetic seems like just being the bad guy with whom she can do bad things confidently. Basically someone who can figure out a way to do that.

The thing is I consider this casual sex, hooking up to be just that - bad, something you are not supposed to do as a decent person or good girl whose aim is marriage.

[–]Tek_Analyst0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

What does that have to do with someone being who they want to be unapologetically?

In the case of OP he is doing, or attempting to be who he wants to be. Whether or not every female is receptive to him is irrelevant - because it’s not for them it’s for him.

This is about him. This is what makes him feel natural to who he is.

[–]a_natural_0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, as if being unapologetic about wanting to have sex with every girl is not lewd enough. I don't want everyone behaving like that. Isn't one girl enough, isn't a stable life your aim. Why should you advertise your desires of sex everywhere, it's rude. Sex is not a need, you don't die without it.

[–]Tek_Analyst0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Luckily for you, you’re able to allow who you want and do not want on your life. Just choose accordingly.

[–]suesuesueveeyo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This whole thing is so cringe. You sound like the fat kid who won't stop making weird jokes.

[–]Ballislife70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How sever was your acne before accutane? What was your dose and how long were you on it? I just started accutane!

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great write-up OP. TRP is happy to have you.

[–]ShinjiBoi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Accutane is by far the best thing for acne. One month and it CURES that shit for life.

I told my ex to go on it when she complained about pimpes. She yelled "SKINCARE IS MY THING" like okay bitch then don't complain about it, you're voluntarily taking pimples, I don't want to hear it.

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is always better to be known as a sleazy poonhound who gets the machismo stigma attached to him (including easy passes for failed flirting attempts) than being a creepy nice guy. Except for work, never under no circumstances dip your peepee into someone who has the same HR department as you do.

[–]gabeangelo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dude, seriously, that message you sent about wanting to see her body in a GROUP CHAT? It's creepy AF. PERIOD.

This experience has NOTHING to do with masculinity and EVERYTHING to do about your lack of social calibration.

What a trash post.

[–]drkinferno720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah acne can be a real killer, remember to wash your face regularly, avoid greasy foods and wash your sheets



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