I thought red pill and mgtow were about self-improvement, not self-pitying. I still believe in some of the ideas of red pill and mgtow, but these guys constantly bitch about women. For guys who don't care about women, they sure talk about them a lot. A little showerthought - you are an actual MGTOW when you don't participate in MGTOW groups. Those are just cesspools of pathetic losers and neckbeards who try to delude themselves into thinking it's THEM who don't want to date... you know that "you can't fire me, I quit" thing.

Some of the posts I've seen were really eye-opening experience. I cringed so hard when I saw post of MGTOW "gamers"... "hey look, i bought doom eternal, not gonna waste money on dating evil wamen gonna play all day, hahahaha, take that wamen!!1!1" .... Yeah sure buddy, gaming all day, that's the way... And don't even get me started on what terminology they use - "chad", "tyrone", "stacey"... you know who uses these...

Now, I still think it's OK to be single and focus on other aspects of life. But I don't shit on relationships and women. There are good people, there are bad people in this world. I say PEOPLE. Not just women. Because these guys focus mainly on women, like it's only women who are evil and excuse every bad man because "women made him like this". I focus on my hobbies and stuff, starting to learn new things to get a better job - but here's the thing: I'm not pathetic about it (like those guys are)

I saw some redpill/mgtow channel on youtube. In comments I called them out on their bullshit and the best they could do was call me a "simp" instead of giving an actual counter arguments - this pretty much shows it...