Girls rejects you bc you're not the provider type ?

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April 22, 2020

So i fuck this girl first time and make her cum twice. Anyway, in next couple weeks she shows me some degree of interest by sending me pics of her in sexy dresses, but generally speaking when i msg her she takes 2 days to reply.

Now normally i would just think ok she doesn't have high interest, but there's two things that make it interesting

  • she is 26. when we started talking i said i hinted i wasnt looking for anything serious, but she said she would be open to something serious. I said let's see how it goes. Note, she told me she has ridden the CC for the last 3 years, so I think she's looking for a provider now

  • I made a post on social media that very subtly hinted at me being financially well off, and soon as I posted that within 2 minutes she messaged me some naughty shit

I get the feeling she's looking for beta bux provider and is playing games to see who falls for it. Thoughts?

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Title Girls rejects you bc you're not the provider type ?
Author TheProfitMotive
Upvotes 84
Comments 69
Date 22 April 2020 07:15 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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[–]alphakari109 points110 points  (19 children) | Copy

i said i hinted i wasnt looking for anything serious

When you say something like this, a girl will by default feel like a loser if she's your something casual if she was raised even remotely decently. (Or even if like your girl, she was raised by the streets and is now wary of guys like you.)

Maybe you say it because you want to be honest, or maybe you say it because it gets you off to emulate some FR you read on here.

But realize that the game for a woman is commitment, and by outright shutting the possibility of her success down without supplanting it with a new fantasy (IE: How amazing being casual with you would be,) she ends up needing to do a lot of emotional labor to hamster what she's doing with you.

Tl;dr: Girls try to beta bux every guy they meet unless you give them another frame to operate in.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty genius stuff.

Takes a pro to do the latter though. Just asking to be casual won’t work because women don’t like thinking of themselves as a slut. Props to anyone who can pull it off. I always dangled some commitment in front of the girls I was dating/sleeping with

[–]absolutelynp3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy


whats FR?

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (9 children) | Copy

Field report. Basically made up fantasies and stories that TRP nards like to create and claimed that happened with 100 percent conviction.

[–]absolutelynp6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

Ah yes, I read one of those once about a guy picking up a chick in the gym and fucking her afterwards. I was done with TRP after that for while bc I was like "Ill never reach this level". Today with a little more RP knowledge Im quite sure it was bs

[–]PachoHerrera028 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why? I mean yeah 90% of them are probably exaggerated or outright lies but this does happen. I have fucked girls within hours of meeting them. I fucked one girl in a club toilet after kissing her and dancing with her for a few minutes. Believe that or don’t, I’ve got nothing to sell you, but it happens and is possible.

[–]phellySL20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

Mfks gotta realize that after a certain point, it’s up to the girl to decide how fast she wants to move. Sometimes same day, sometimes after 3 dates. Don’t tolerate any longer. But also don’t push for it, just expect it cus you’re high value.

[–]latinasonly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i like this

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Possible but not probable with any of the faggots here. They don't post proof or anything believable. It's laughable how they want to lie for their own validation.

[–]PachoHerrera01 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact you’re getting downvoted by the same people who do it just proves the point.

[–]Pooddit4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've done this. The women that frequent the gym want sex. I lifted and was fit, shaved chest, Tan, sitting in sauna with shirt off. Started talking to girl that sat in there, she said she wasn't going to do anything with me bla bla, had sex with her in my home that afternoon.

[–]latinasonly1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

" said she wasn't going to do anything with me "

haha who brought it up first

[–]brngamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m intrigued too...

[–]exton91 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Could you give an example of how you'd supplant the frame? Alternatively, would "not looking for anything serious for now" be a bad idea?

[–]alphakari5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

No I can't. It takes advanced pimping to keep a plate for more than a year or two if she isn't a loser. I don't use the word pimping arbitrarily here, I literally mean it's the same type of game that a pimp plays when he gets a bitch to turn tricks and give him the cash. (Not counting the physical intimidation factor ofc.)

It's not gonna work as some phrase. If it happens, it's going to be either that she's fucked up in some way, your SMV is so much higher that she just wants an in into your life, or it's going to be a very sophisticated frame that needs to be believable. Not only that, but it's a frame you've learned how to project onto others by knowing how to respond to typical challenges to it.

Alternatively, would "not looking for anything serious for now" be a bad idea?

Better off just lying to her, and baiting her with commitment.

Personally, I prefer something like "Waiting for the right girl." And if she asks what kind of girl that is, I tease. The idea is to create some mythical goddess woman, and talk about THAT girl instead of the girl you're with when letting slip your false desires for commitment. And then when you talk about commitment with the girl you're with, it's always to joke, or to make sex better by getting her to say she loves you while you fuck her silly.

[–]latinasonly1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Personally, I prefer something like "Waiting for the right girl." And if she asks what kind of girl that is, I tease. The idea is to create some mythical goddess woman, and talk about THAT girl instead of the girl you're with when letting slip your false desires for commitment. And then when you talk about commitment with the girl you're with, it's always to joke, or to make sex better by getting her to say she loves you while you fuck her silly.

you motherfucker. thats some smooth shit

[–]brngamer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This man gets it.

[–]RPOpenUp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This.Don't say either yes or no, but keep it a mystery so her hamster fills it in the way she wants to. For example say you will see what the relation brings. Read the talk for more context

[–]Scheme000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If I knew how to give gold, I would here

[–]i-am-the-prize31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

A lot of advice here is saying you should have held back being transparent about your lack of desire for commitment/ and been a player, etc. I disagree: besides being able to be honest for self respect, Rollo wrote plenty on why Plate Theory, and being open about being non monogamous, is required on your end to tilt the female imperative default programming in the power dynamic of traditional dating. But, here’s another way...

A line that stuck with me after I read “The Natural” by Richard La Ruina is how he brings up this topic. Try this next time.

(During the post fuck “clarity” talk time...)

You/male ask her out of the blue: “what DON’T you want in a guy?” (Then stfu)

Her: “blah blah blah” (she of course will have a laundry list that reads like War and Peace listing every negative trait she’s ever personally seen, observed or had her girlfriends tell her about)-- at some point she’ll actually shut the fuck up herself, and ask you “so <name> what don’t YOU want in a woman?”

And here you contrast by saying only 1 thing. You: “being pressured to commit too early”. Bam. Then change the subject to somethings else. She will recall and hamster like mad. Why?

1- The contrast in this being the singular thing you mention is a lightning bolt compared to her list of minutia. You give zero fucks, other than this one thing.

2- Notice it says “too early” versus “never”... this is the “dangle” that can keep them chasing.

I highly recommend this book as a mix of theory and a lot of practical and tactical information for those of you who are still actively in the dating game.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit that's genius.

[–]xxx69harambe69xxx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


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[–]absolutelynp0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

In that case, that she gets an attratctive guy, orgasms and lets assume the guy hold his it too bad if she knows how much you make? I slipped and told her. She was like how much is possible to make in your filed, me, an idiot, just through a number out and she got VERY excited. Now Im kinda worried that Im not her Chad anymore, if I ever was...

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[–]absolutelynp0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

are you trolling me?

[–]wtfdoiaskfor12 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Haha, it's not trolling. Women love doing that.

[–]absolutelynp0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

yeah ok but isnt it more about being more alpha in that case? cause she sees me now probably more in the light of a provider and less Chad™

[–]wtfdoiaskfor12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's OK, you don't have to obsess over a single thing.

I'm sure there's many other things she wants to know. Keep those mysterious

[–]skyrunner221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are worried about the wrong thing/Looking at it wrong. There are "alpha" with money and without. There are "beta" with and without.

Some chicks are attracted to money and you can use to your advantage. But at same time dont LEAD with your money, always be in control and leader. She will test your frame and see if she can manipulate you with feels/sex. How you handle will determine where she puts you.

Women are ALWAYS seeing how you react and testing, poking looking for where you stand. If you have boundaries, great frame and always in control that is best you can do. Believe, maybe before she even asked you she already googled it or would. But you dont have to be soo literal, soo direct either.

[–]Rkingpin55 points56 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dangle the carrot of commitment instead of "hinting you dont want anything serious"

U tryna smash or nah

Basic playa shit 101.

[–]absolutelynp17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

or never really talk about it, get her attracted, then you drop the the bomb or stay vague...and stay vague especially in your actions!

[–]jasondougies1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

how exactly do you execute danging the carrot of commitment?

[–]alphakari4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Play the role of someone who is hopeful for ms. right.

Draw on romance in the bedroom when its appropriate. IE: Get her to admit she has a crush on you/likes you/loves you. This isn't something you do the first night. This comes after she actually likes you, not before.

Make absurdity jokes that hint at your commitment being possible. IE: Wow you can make cereal? Marry me.

Theme here is obvious. You draw on that fantasy of commitment to elevate the moment you're in, but never ACTUALLY take steps to give her her commitment. Whenever you're talking about commitment in a serious way, it comes off like you're talking about some unknown mystical goddess rather than about the person you're talking to.

And when you do bring it up in relation to her, it's as a joke, to make the sex better, tease her, etc.

[–]FrankTM2660 points61 points  (1 child) | Copy

Seems like it. She's about to hit the wall (or has already) and trying to find a long term relationship to settle down. She's trying to secure that bag while relatively young before her options dwindle.

[–]bigdudecfc11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RIchardjCranium5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

All women want to live the dream of doing nothing and letting someone else pick up the tab. I see so many here in South Florida that are married to someone well off and the hardest thing they do is decide where to go to lunch with the other girls after yoga class.

[–]redpill_aware9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she isn't texting you in a timely matter, just think about those who you didn't text back in a timely manner who were women and why that is.

She may be considering you, but it's primarily as you say, because you can provide for her. She isn't fully committed because she knows she's 26 and she still might be able to find the 'right' one (the better looking guy) before she settles down with someone like you (the less attractive, but has a good job, guy).

Either way you look at this, you are not the top of the charts for her, but you seem to be aware of that. You are likely in the consideration pool, but there is likely others and if she is talking with you still, it's because you are all within the same looks but have other varying degrees of difference that she is trying to compromise on.

Pretty screwed up right?

[–]Domebeers15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

maybe you didn't make her cum

[–]ProFriendZoner7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

One of the more beta posts i've read here in a long time. Fucks her once, immediate oneitis, she loses attraction, he tries to attract her back with money.


Dude, seriously, hit the Sidebar.

[–]TheProfitMotive[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol strong 24/7 blackpill mentality

Who hurt you brah?

[–]cfbovernfl4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you posting that shit online? You're only playing yourself and your ego.

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know this "spinning plates" shit that goes around on this sub?

She's doing that herself. And you're one of the plates.

Sorry that sounds harsh, but I'd be my salary on it.

And forget the "beta" bullshit. Just find a normal person who isn't using you for money and fucking other guys. Jesus.

[–]TheProfitMotive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yh I know. Only reason im thinking about this hoe is I will admit the pussy was good - guess that's byproduct of her riding the CC lol.

I have another hoe on my roster who is just as good anyhow, but the more the merrier yknow

I just don't mind pretending to be the provider type for a bit to smash her a few more times until I get bored of her

[–]pangolin0012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's very close to the start of (what I believe) is a woman's second but MOST POWERFUL reproductive phase (27-29). Yes, she's been on the CC and her looks are going to drop quick. Her body is SCREAMING "HAVE A BABY,HAVE A BABY!" and her brain is following even if she's still fighting it a bit. She's going into a nesting phase. She does need to lock a guy down to have a child. She is planning (whether she knows it or not) that she's going to need a guy for about 4 years.

So yes, she's looking for a baby-daddy. She's still having fun and she's still playing the little girl games. She's trying to see how much control she has over you. She's trying to guage how bad you want her, if you'll fight for her...and she's also trying to see if you could be the provider.

Be careful to avoid cuming in her. But it sounds like your time with her is pretty much over anyway. So, move on. If you're not looking to join up, there's nothing more that can be gained (without significant risk) at this point.

[–]manfrombelow8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This happened to me too.

It's life, and shit happens.

A girl let you fuck her bc she thought you're a catch. But when she finds out you're not a provider or fucking whatever, she gets rid of you. This is life. Accept it and move on like a true alpha.

Most of us have all been there, brother.

[–]Dboy22331 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Definitely bagged a few babes, hit a few Times ..then they start pulling the provider shit...bihh I ain’t getting swole to be a damn provider

[–]Filmguy0006 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, that's exactly it. She was down to fuck (alpha fucks), but when you expressed not feeling any commitment, she bounced to continue her search for the nice guy (beta bucks). And she's 26 which is around the time many women start to think about their future.

[–]HotHead1215 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

So i fuck this girl first time and make her cum twice

So fucking what,now she should be your sex slave?

I made a post on social media that very subtly hinted at me being financially well off

Dont bait women to raise your ego and stop fucking around with common whores.

[–]Lostfate091 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

"make her cum twice"

Sounds like she faked it twice brah

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[–]TheProfitMotive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

why are you such a meanie 😭

[–]mr_Tobbor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Texting don't do any good to your relationship.

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[–]TheProfitMotive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looool no one said anything about LTR

She just has good pussy and I want to smash it a few more times before I toss it, e.g. cum in her mouth, cum on her face etc

[–]IXseed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For whatever reason, her actions aren't showing that she's high interest if it takes her days to get back to you. Could be something you did, another guy, her life, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For ltr yes it helps. For one time fuck, not so much unless she thinks it might be a ltr. Lol

[–]robot3000_010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're not hot enough to fuck her NSA. Even at 26.

[–]OPs_Real_Mom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If only someone had written a book about what women look for throughout their lives. I wonder what the book would be called, maybe Preventive Medicine.

[–]Gtrplyr38381 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have seen this too many times. Just because you make her cum doesn’t mean that she will be attached to you. Maybe you could be her maintenance man after she bags a provider. At some point, almost every woman will look for a provider. If you cannot provide, she will move on to someone who can. It doesn’t really matter, as all of them will hit the wall and they won’t be worth anything before long.

[–]ViolentInteger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Everything is going well. You've got a plate who's interested. Keep your intentions hidden, and respond vaguely when pressed about it. "I'm just taking things one step at a time."

Keep yourself busy with your mission and other plates, and you'll have a good time with this one while it lasts.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So i fuck this girl first time and make her cum twice. Anyway, in next couple weeks she shows me some degree of interest by sending me pics of her in sexy dresses, but generally speaking when i msg her she takes 2 days to reply.

Well this is just my personal opinion but if you already fucked her shes already plenty interested in you... 😂 especially if you made her achieve orgasm not something a lot of guys can do successfully.

She’s testing you. If she takes 2 days to reply to you then you take 3 days to reply to her. She leaves you on read for a few hours? Leave her on read for a few days. If you’re looking at her as LTR potential or at the very least a consistent plate you gotta pass her tests. Make her want you more than you want her. Make her beg for your attention because she is lucky to even have yours at all. A woman deprived of attention they need to survive from someone they consider worthy of them will cling and fight for your attention.

[–]bert_cj0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She’s getting old and like others said, hitting the wall soon.

[–]spider_13370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A girls relationship with you depends on the type of resource she gets from you. If she's remotely attractive than she has far more AF atm but since she is 26 her main priority rn is to get an AF. Of course most men realistically start of a relationship with a girl from this frame but over time slip into a BB frame and so she goes on again to find an AF. What kinda relationship did you want anyways? If you're looking for a plates then youll probably have an easier time spinning younger chicks since most don't really want a BB provider anyways

[–]MrAnderzon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

One response when asked about relationship especially if it’s the first date : I’m not aiming for a relationship and I just met you but I’m not opposed to one if it happens organically. And from that statement you can roll the subject of sex.

Job-Life-Friends-Parents-Relationship-Sex or F.O.R.D

Try to let them bring up relationship subject.

TRP teaches us that it’s the mans responsibility to lead and what type of relationship it will be. It’s your fault you’re in the friend zone, you’re fault she sees you as marriage material, it’s you’re fault. This goes back to your frame and how you frame however short or long of time you spend with her.

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[–]ThatNights-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

what does ridden the CC mean?

[–]ProFriendZoner1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

CC=Cock Carousel. Hit the Sidebar.

[–]latinasonly-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

amen to him for not being a redpill addict who knows all the lingo

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