Quick disclaimer, this submission is by no means a blackpill/incel post.

This post will probably rumble a few feathers but frankly idgaf, there’s some transparency lacking here which needs to be addressed regarding online dating.

I oftentimes see bullshit posted here about tinder from guys who claim to have success from it (and other similar apps too). Tons of misleading incomplete advice floating around and it needs to be addressed.

Only the top 5% (and that’s being generous) of dudes on tinder will be seeing any success. What constitutes a top 5% guy? In a nutshell its genetically immutable factors such as facial aesthetics and tall height, muscularity plays a very little role in this regard. So all the delusional Chads on here are wrongly attributing their success to the wrong factors, they think that their “hard work” and lifting is responsible for their success.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Lifting alone won’t turn you into one of these guys if you aren’t already. It will require some degree of cosmetic surgery, but that stuff’s expensive and generally not an option for most people, so we ain’t gonna talk about that shit here, i’m sure there’s some incel forums out there where you can find advice on that if you want.

So, you’re not in the top 5% of genetics, what options does that leave you? Luckily there’s this thing called “real life” where there are other factors that can influence attraction. That stuff can be found in the sidebar. Plus, your hard earned physique will count for something here amongst the sea of the nonlifting masses.

If you have good genetics then by all means opt for the online dating route, but understand that you are one of a select few of genetically elite males, so don’t waltz on down to the redpill subreddit spouting off half baked advice telling guys that they “aren’t lifting enough”. You didn’t achieve jack, you just had to show up.

Don’t take this post as some Blackpill demoralising crap, the real life approach absolutely works, I’m not lucky enough to be genetically elite male, so I have to lift and practice game and it works out well enough for me.

To every guy on here claiming to have success with tinder, I challenge you to post your height and a rating of your face from the truerateme subreddit. That should clear the air.