How do you guys deal with a world increasingly becoming more beta?

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May 4, 2020
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I'm finding myself getting annoyed by a world that's rapidly becoming more pussified and beta—particularly in response to coronavirus.

Example: I'm on the professional networking app, Fishbowl and some dude asks..."Wife won't wear mask on walks, help pls" and people are ACTUALLY giving this dude advice—not immediately telling him to find a pair of nuts he can wear and to go talk to her.

I feel like I'm seeing this stuff everywhere from the self-denial cucks on the relationships_advice thread to the rise of shameless simps on Onlyfans.

I know the RP response will be to ignore it, laugh at them, and focus on your purpose (which is good advice) but is the active crumbling of western masculinity not bothering to anyone else?


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Title How do you guys deal with a world increasingly becoming more beta?
Author Tousen71
Upvotes 126
Comments 55
Date 04 May 2020 01:00 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/659988
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/gd1z1y/how_do_you_guys_deal_with_a_world_increasingly/
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[–]TRP_Scepter173 points174 points  (3 children) | Copy

Be so great that your presence inspires growth.

You're not going to change the people destined to be weak, let them be weak, but you can at least inspire the people with chaos within themselves to use that chaos to become strong.

Be great, and others will follow your example.

[–]Flamergoh29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

Preach my brother

[–]brngamer9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

This man gets it.

[–]MGTOW_BEASTMODE2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amen.

[–]New_Age_Radical42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know what the answer is, don't you mate? Stop getting annoyed. There's absolutely nothing you can do about other people. It's a key pillar of Stoic thinking. When you find yourself getting annoyed. Take a step back and refocus on to something you can control. Some of them will work it out, some won't.

And if you can't ignore, reframe. You have an advantage over all of them. But try to stop getting annoyed.

[–]Tousen7110 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fantastic response. I’ll take it to heart.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (2 children) | Copy

What you are witnessing can be defined as beta but is better so seen as a world lacking authenticity. We are a populace of duct taped solutions. Lacking masculinity? Try this brand. Try this pill.

People don't know who they are outside of their sports ball or political team. If you don't know who you are you are unable to assert your will upon that which is external because you have no idea where external begins.

[–]kankouillotte13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most people are children, looking at a higher authority to be their mommy. Nowadays it's mostly the State and governments over the world. Please mommy protect me from everything, please mommy tell me what to do, what to think, mommy is this right ? Should I do it ?

[–]H2orocks30002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’ll say I agreee with you, but I do kinda feel for them because the more I invest in figuring that all out and everything, it’s not always a straight answer and can be quite complex. And life is filled with lots of traps too. And everyone else always trying to manipulate you one way or another.

[–]TheProfitMotive25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy

The world becoming more beta is a good thing.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

[–]Transport12721 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

I disagree with you man. Beta men are white-knights, they can hurt you badly just to get validations from women. And most of there cocks are on high government positions—they serve as toys for women

[–]ghosthumper_699 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah white knights are physically dangerous lol. Anyone see that recent video of a school kid getting lynched by a his fellow white knight schoolmates after he hit a girl back who hit him first....as he was walking away..fucking cunts. i saw it on the pussypassdenied sub i think.

[–]TheProfitMotive3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women won't let a beta jeopardize her chances of securing an alpha.

If you look at all the laws women have campaigned for since the 60s, they've essentially campaigned for the state to give them free money so they need beta males as little as possible, and can just be free to pursue alphas.

[–]H2orocks3000-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I did realize. At one point, I can have selfish motives behind supporting women, if I’m getting those satisfied I don’t care, I just wont tell them what they are.

[–]_Send_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's BP simping essentially.

[–]_Send_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not good, simps let them do whatever they want. When we act like real men, simps are there to agree with women and validate their opinions the way their female friends would.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev39 points40 points  (3 children) | Copy

Oh, it totally sux when it comes to Western Civ going right down the shitter, but in the short term it helps guys like me who know what we're about to bang young women.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

So cool dude!

[–]TRPCops[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Respect the tag, 3d ban

If you want to disagree do that, reddit snark gets you a timeout

[–]FinancialThanks118 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

You notice it more after reading trp, that doesn’t mean that the world is changing

[–]LLL3peat3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

LOL sounds like you are the beta in this instance. That post in the app was satire and jokes if you read it around. If you are in the consulting world Plz fix is a meme/real-life occurrence for random details before delivering a project from a coworker or the firm who hired you on for a project. That social media app has people who make a very decent living more than the common blue-collar worker if you play your cards right and network appropriately.

What you are noticing around you is what was happening since around 2012 with the rise of feminism and its constant battle about fighting against masculinity. Same pay (even though more sick leave/paid leave occurs), have the power to accuse a man of abuse/rape without consequences, fault-free divorce, women are wonderful syndrome, and more. Smile, nod, be passive in your responses with those who don't have the same ideology as TRP, and watch your desirability numbers go up.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not bothering me, simply because if you stay on top, stay masculine although you may be persectuted for it, you are doing what is natural. It's not natural or male to be a pussy and constantly back down from things.

I will not yield to pussy males or the pussified society. It is my nature to be a man, therefore I shall be one. Those who have taken the right path by going back to there roots as a masculine man, will ultimately come out on top.Let them stay weak, bathe in your own success.

[–]spedoid4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Coronavirus has nothing to do with being blue pilled.

[–]findaway84-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It can.

[–]JasonStar792 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like his wife is way more alpha than he is.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa11 points12 points  (14 children) | Copy

The world isn’t really changing in a way, its just that the power balance has shifted tremendously.

Up until about the early 1990’s late 1980’s the power balance was more shifted towards a conservative Alpha lifestyle in America. People knew what bathrooms to use, there were only 2 genders, our economy was booming with a great stock market and housing market, women didn’t cry assault or rape simply for looking at them and ‘undressing them with our eyes’, and less than 10% of people spoke anything but English. Then the liberal/progressives started getting even more aggressive than they already were until before you knew it we suddenly seemed like we were the silent minority as it is now ‘toxic’ to be an Alpha, old fashioned values are now sexist and wrong, and supporting any right wing ideology or politicians make you a biggot or a racist. In fact simply being white, straight, and male these days automatically makes you a racist on sight these days.

We’re still here though, as the 2016 election proved, that we are still a majority, we are just forced to remain silent as our way of living is currently considered ‘socially unacceptable’ by newer generations that fell victim to indoctrination.

Go to youtube and search ‘The Bravery Deficit’ by PragerU I would’ve linked it but last time i did link something some butthurt I proved wrong here got me banned for a week.

Edit: grammar and spelling

[–]RanaMahal1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

As a brown guy there definitely is a fair bit of racism still from the right but nowhere close to what it was like in my dad’s days. But it also swings the other way with the left where I’m praised for “my culture” if I say I want a housewife and have traditional values, but my white conservative friends are racist and bigoted for sharing the exact same morals and values as me? World’s gone to shit lmao

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

As long as people exist and are different discrimination will always exist and everyone will come face to face with it at some point in their life in some way shape or form. But like you say things today are much better then they were, there are no longer ‘whites only’ or ‘colored only’ signs anywhere, nobody is forced to sit in a particular spot on public transit because of color, and blatant discrimination is illegal and highly frowned upon by the masses.

[–]RanaMahal1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

yeah exactly and i don’t face it in my daily life like some people seem to claim. i have many white friends and many are conservatives and i face no racism or anything from them or anyone they know. just the nutjob hardcore trump supporters who hate anyone not white aka the nazis.

but then the left is even worse cuz it’s just constant praise for simply being my race because it’s “brave” but they shit on white guys to do it. it’s so odd.

[–]cambucaz3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Edit: talking shite. How can speaking more than one language be beta? Moronic.

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My point, that you so clearly missed, is that we are dangerously close to Spanish overtaking English in America and I while don’t know about you but I don’t want to have to learn a whole new language when people coming to live here should be speaking the nations most popular language which, like it or not, is still English. Even if it’s not our national language it is common courtesy to speak the popular language of the country you decide to live in. I wouldn’t move to Japan and expect everyone there to adapt for my sake and speak in English when I do, I’d learn the freakin language so as not to inconvenience my generous hosts.

[–]Godiegogo01[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Dumbest shite I’ve read on Reddit. Anything that refers you to go to Dennis Prager, of all people, can’t be taken seriously. Serious tin-foil hat nonsense

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I just read through a few of your comments and THAT is the dumbest ‘shite’ I’ve read on Reddit 😂

[–]yacrazu-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

You have an interesting way of defining "majority".

[–]DiskKiller24 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Majority or not, that doesn’t matter. In our times and in democracy in general, the shots are being called by the most vocal minority in each case. Sometimes it’s the feminists, sometimes the cyclists or perhaps vegans.

The majority of people are passive observers who don’t have opinions of their own. They just follow and obediently swallow whatever people are shoving down their throats. “People want to be told what to do so badly they’ll listen to anyone” as the saying goes.

[–]yacrazu1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Interesting way to put it. As an avid cyclist and bicycle advocate, I had never considered myself a part of a "vocal minority". But that's a good point.

Are most people really passive observers without opinions of their own, though? I think most people definitely have their own opinions. But I think you mean that they don't have many independent thoughts and tend to follow their "herd", then I think you're right. That's true regardless of political persuasion, and people on TRP are just as guilty if not more of repeating herd-accepted mantras without thinking too deeply into it.

I think we need to be wary of implying that other people don't think independently, while we do. It's a hubris that will make us blind to things that we passively accept without investigating.

How exactly are "vegans" calling any shots? The world is being destroyed more and more by animal agriculture every year, if the vegans are calling any shots, they're not working.

[–]DiskKiller20 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You’re right - just like cyclists, vegans are powerful in pockets. However, in them their influence vastly exceeds their absolute numbers, again thanks to the obedient majority.

Example: in fashionable HCOL cities around the world, the restaurants are adjusting their menus to be 100% vegan. Also and especially so, the schools and kindergartens, where a single type of a meal must serve all pupils, are switching to 100% vegan ingredients. This is because normal people can eat vegan food, but vegans / vegan parents aggressively reject the ‘normal’, non-vegan offering, it’s simpler to adjust everything to be 100% vegan instead of preparing several alternatives.

[–]yacrazu0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I see. I'm from a lower-middle-class background so don't know much about what's going on in HCOL cities. My bubble is full of vegans, and full of cyclists, and very few of us are "powerful in pockets".

It seems to me that restaurants who are successfully transitioning to vegan menus are targeting a certain demographic market. Smart business. Meanwhile, some businesses are completely behind on this front- I couldn't find a single veggie burger at a certain NFL game I went to last fall, so instead I just didn't eat.

I'm curious how cyclists are considered a minority? Surely more people know how to ride a bicycle than people who have drivers licenses. The barrier to entry for riding a bicycle is much lower than driving. The cost of a bicycle is practically nothing compared to a car. Surely, drivers are the ones who are "powerful in pockets" compared to cyclists? (Obviously, most cyclists are also drivers and most drivers know how to ride a bicycle, so even talking in these terms is a little silly).

What are your thoughts on climate change? Surely you know that vegans and cyclists are fighting for their issues not for kicks, but because we understand that intensive animal agriculture and car dependency pose threats to the future of humankind and other species on earth. This isn't a "minority" of us doing what is better for the minority, it's that we are actually motivated to do things to help ensure a livable planet in the future for the majority of people.

[–]DiskKiller20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

At least where I live, most people drive a car to work. People moving around on bicycles are a small majority. However, in city planning, their opinion has a higher weight, as the city gov are trying to make the streets navigable by bike and convince more people to switch into biking. This (and matters like vegan school meals) is also happening in many other progressive [larger] cities around the world.

I can easily imagine it isn't visible in smaller cities yet, it isn't in my country either.

My thoughts or opinions don't really matter here, I'm only observing a phenomenon. But I'm pro cycling, for example. Nassim Taleb has written about this more than once - he calls it the "dictatorship of the minority". Google it if you're interested.

[–]yacrazu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cool I will look into it. Appreciate the thoughts.

From my perspective, making cities more bicycle-friendly and encouraging the populace to switch to bicycles and public transit as the main way of transportation is one of the most important changes we can make. I do hope it catches on. I will note, that in my small town, at least one change that is being proposed in the name of making the town more "bicycle friendly" is a larger project that seems to me to be funneling money in the wrong direction toward accomplishing that goal, but that's just how it works sometimes.

But yes I see the main point you made about how an activist minority dictates policy for the passive majority. Thanks for the model and recommendation.

[–]paint-the-world-red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In the summer of 64 AD, a massive fire devastated Rome for six days. Half the city’s population was made homeless and the conflagration and according to the contemporary Roman historian, Tacitus, Emperor Nero could be seen playing the fiddle as the city burned.

Regimes and world powers rise and fall every century and I tend not to weep over that fact. The way I see it, we can’t stop the world from becoming more beta so all we can really do is just resist that change and teach those who come after us to do the same. Research shows that testosterone and sperm counts are dropping lower and lower in men each decade. If the western world wants to become more feminized then they can do just that but when another conflict arises and they’re regretting their decisions, they’ll have to sleep in the bed they made🤷🏿‍♂️

[–]vicious_armbar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you expect when the government actively neuters men? I don't care how "alpha" you think you are. You can't overpower the state. If you think you can slap a random cop and see how that turns out for you.

Men, like everyone respond to incentives. They won't tell a woman to fuck off when she can destroy his life through family courts. They won't tell their employer to fuck off when they can be blackballed from their career. They won't tell strangers to fuck off if getting into a fist fight means they have a criminal record that prevents them from earning good money.

[–]TheChinkLord1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Capitalize on it right now. Pick some plates and start and OnlyFans account. All the thirsty betas will compensate you willingly while they live their cuck fantasies out through watching you. Plus, you get to be on camera!

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe live in the real world and understand facts, rather than living in some fantasy rose-tinted hyperbole scenario.

You sound like the "beta" in this situation.

[–]SIR_SKINNYPENIS690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy how much more alpha you are by comparison lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

The online acronym "WAF" (Wife Acceptance Factor) has been a hilarious one on places like AVSforum. Sandals and socks wearing dickheads sweating their "wife killing them" if they buy a TV they really want. You know these fuckers must pee sitting down too.

OP: it's just fine if the world goes more beta. Because being not-beta will only stand out more.

[–]RanaMahal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i’ve never understood what’s wrong with pissing sitting down lol. I don’t have a urinal installed in my house, i don’t particularly want to aim at the bowl and potentially making a mess. maybe i’m just too tall for that shit

[–]Azora-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

all you can do is change yourself and become a role model. stop complaining.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy

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[–]yadigggggggggg2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

but that means more entitled and uglier women.

[–]Blazer808-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe it's just the internet giving the betas more exposure

[–]its-mystery-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Without betas, alphas won’t be able to function. Some one should there be to provide resources.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't care about other people. Care about yourself and those who you deem worthy to care about.

[–]uglytoadinsauce-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

A female dominant matriarchy is the future, it turns me on actually

[–]shyrix-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That makes it hella easier. Most girls going older now lol. Love it



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