Father died, girlfriend left me shortly after

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May 12, 2020

My dad succumbed to Covid-19; my girlfriend was with me for about a week until the grief set in and I started getting really emotional (rage/depression). I hate the reality that we have to objectify women as these incapable pieces of meat. Like, why can’t my girlfriend sympathize—why do I, after even losing my father, have to maintain this stoicism. Im fucking entitled to some emotion, im a real fucking human being.

TRP philosophy breeds success; would really appreciate some advice from the community on dealing with this grief and the deriving emotions caused by the breakup.

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Title Father died, girlfriend left me shortly after
Author DrKing_Schultz_
Upvotes 404
Comments 222
Date 12 May 2020 03:49 PM UTC (12 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/663122
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/gidrq0/father_died_girlfriend_left_me_shortly_after/
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[–]TheDroogie285 points286 points  (21 children) | Copy

  1. Who cares about this worthless bitch. Consign her to the trash and she’s easily replaceable.
  2. Sorry to hear about your dad.

Yes, you have to ‘get on with it’ as when one of us falls, another man must pick up his burden. But there will be real pain and grief, and you’ll have to find a way to deal with that. Take as long as you need, and focus on rebuilding your life and supporting your family emotionally.

About the girl: good riddance.

[–]babybopp54 points55 points  (10 children) | Copy

TRP teaches us to understand women in thick or thin times. If OP really followed these teachings and was up to date, he would have realized that women don’t give a shit about your feelings. Find a good bro and cry your eyes out for him, don’t do it in front of a woman. Your value goes down in her eyes. Whether it is losing a dad or watching a chic flick. On the plus side OP gets to see the true nature of a woman first hand and hopefully dumped her sorry ass

[–]chopping_livers4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, this. Hoes are for sexy time and bros are for everything else.

That's your lesson.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

But she will regret this too in future.

You're still living in a BP fantasy dude.

No, she won't think about you twice. Girl will be complaining to her next boyfriend about the loser that totally broke down.

Male friends are for talking about deep problems. Trusted brothers. Trying to put a woman in the roll of Mama is a recipe for disaster, like it or not.

Yes, first learning this can be a shock, and a loss in itself, but it's one you work through the grief on and accept.

Then adjust your behavior to deal with. This is not going to change. It's baked into a woman's DNA through millions of years of evolution.

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[–]babybopp4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I lost my dad and even my own mom or sister never saw my tears. I broke down to my older brother.

[–]CasaDeFranco1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Honestly think of it biologically.

Men throughout history typically are the leader, in the military if a Sgt broke down in a stressful moment, all of the grunts would not be able to function unless they had been trained and drilled well. Men and women today are not trained or drilled well, men shouldn't breakdown in front of their subordinates like OP did, it's tough but you have to hold frame. My father got a phone call and was informed his brother died. The man said a few words, nodded to me, and hung up. He went to another room and had some alone time. The sad part is I don't really know my father, as a person I mean, he's just this abstraction to me.

Women aren't cruel, but few women (and men) can have the fortitude to step up and be there in a leadership role when they're in a subordinate role.

[–]JaevonTheDon1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

what does the op term mean again

[–]Eartripping-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

original poster

[–]jackandjill225 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yea, idk that girl probably shouldn't have been his GF then she should've been his plate. She's obviously not actually interested in doing hard relationship work. That's my 2cents.

It's not your fault OP. Just take it a day at a time.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy


Women are not built to play the Mama roll for their man. Best get use to that reality.

Men play papa roll for their woman, part of the job description, but other way around doesn't work.

OP hurting over his Papa's death is natural. Her aversion to that weakness is also natural.

You're just spewing rad-fem nonsense, like so many other BP boys here that all seem to have come right off the /menslib boat.

[–]jackandjill222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm as far as can be from a "Rad-fem" bro.

[–]thechaosz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't Get Married Ever


[–]rprookie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She’s for the stress

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-4 points-3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Who cares about this worthless bitch. Consign her to the trash and she’s easily replaceable.

You have just consigend the VAST majority of women to the trash heap.

There is no replacement for Mama's unconditional love. You will never, ever get that from a woman again.

Best deal with that harsh reality and adjust your behavior accordingly.

This is a core tenant of TRP. To see this rad-fem bullshit upvoted here is laughable.

Best head back on over to /menslib, or shut up and read the side bar and lurk some more.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

i don't thinkg Droogie was being angry at all,

just compeltely wrong and spouting irrational BluePill bullshit.

Or you mean me? I'm not angry, just pointing out the error in no uncertain terms.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Getting pissed off at a woman, saying kick them ALL TO THE CURB unless they tolerate your emotional weakness, is literally BP bullshit.

All over this thread.

Everything I've said is 100% true. I'm not being hostile, just brutally honest.

Shall I blow you a kiss to make it easier to read? :-* ;P

[–]ay-fuh-q105 points106 points  (1 child) | Copy

Life is relentless and unforgiving. You have to roll with it.

She, however, has shown herself to be a true piece of trash. Sucks, yes, but if you choose to take her back when her dumb ass comes crawling back (it does happen when the person they thought was better isn't), you'll deserve your fate. Be glad she's gone.

[–]Herdsengineers81 points82 points 2 (7 children) | Copy

Learning to deal with grief like this and to maintain your ability to function in life at the same time is one of the ultimate challenges men deal with. Stoicism is a learned skill that helps you learn to do this, this won't be the last time you have to do this. However, I think there's a misconception about Stoicism out there. It means learning to rule your emotions and not let them rule you. We all need to learn to not let strong emotions drive us to act out and do or say stupid shit that is self destructive. You will always still feel. It's how you maintain your composure in the face of what you feel that's important.

Stoicism does not mean suppressing and trying to not feeling your emotions. That's only going to lead to having moments of boil over where you lose control, lose frame, lose composure, and end up doing things that are self-sabotaging.

I'm sorry about your dad. Whatever he imprinted on you in your mind and in your DNA will always be with you, so he's not totally gone. This is a moment in life when you will learn to grieve, let go, say goodbye, and then move on with life. Moving on with life doesn't mean you forget about him. It means you grieve and say goodbye, and if you're beliefs are so inclined, that goodbye is more of a "I will miss you until we meet again".

As for the girlfriend, if she bolted that quick, she simply did you a favor by bolting now instead of when she branch swung to some other guy that caught her attention during a squirrel moment. Consider yourself lucky she showed you who she really is now, gives you the chance to say goodbye to her too and move on to someone better before you've wasted more time on her.

It's going to hurt for a long time. Grief never goes away, it just goes through stages until you reach acceptance. Understand as a man, you should be striving for independence. That doesn't mean MGTOW sh*t, it doesn't mean you shouldn't seek out the pleasurable company of a woman and the nurturing a good one can provide you. It simply means you should not be DEPENDENT on a woman. Being independent and able to handle your sh*t can still be complimented by a good woman's impact on you. Your now ex-girlfriend has shown you she wasn't that good woman and freed you up to go find one.

Beyond that, I'm sorry again. Try to stay a little busy (hard these days, I know). Get in some workouts, hit a golf driving range, hit a trail, hang out with some guy friends, read some good books, continue with building your life so tomorrow it's a little better than yesterday. That doesn't change when you experience a loss like this. The key is learning to maintain your composure and keep moving on with life while maintaining the right perspective about what's happened so you can grieve at the same time.

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] 26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy

Brother I really appreciate the response, much love.

[–]MrAnderzon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stoicism is the key takeaway.

[–]I_have_secrets[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How you coping?

[–]beastin00715 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is what we all came here for in the first place👏🏾

[–]DrGandu2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

EC in the making

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Very wise words, with one exception:

Men can play the father roll for their woman, in LTR's anyway, but the other way around VERY rarely works, even if they SAY it, and even TRY... they are disgusted by weakness in their man.

Trying to blame the woman, as so many BluePill comments here are, is as completely useless as saying "just cheer up" after someone's beloved father dies. Completely counterproductive "advice" that you'd see in /menslib, /mgtow or some other cancerous sub.

No woman is built to play the Mama roll for her man. It's baked right into their DNA from millions of years of evolution. That is never going to change. Best deal with it:

Grown men will never have the unconditional love they did from Mama, ever again.

Those that never had such Mama love have it really hard. They need to be especially strong.

Close male friends are for such deep problems. Even one trusted brother is very helpful. Failing that, paying for a shrink is infinitely more useful than expecting a girlfriend / wife / plate to play the roll.

Do wish OP well. Accepting the facts about Women's Nature is up there, but... Losing your father is the hardest thing a man has to go through. Now YOU are the man, no backup. Also why it's good to have close male friends.

Dealing with such harsh realities is what TRP is all about.

[–]Herdsengineers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Having a good woman's support as a compliment to your life is not the same as having a second mother. I wouldn't want my wife to start trying to be a mother to me. That shit would get smacked down quickly, no matter what else was going on in my life. Hell, my own mother gets smacked down when she tries to inject too much "mothering" into my life at this point!

[–]FrankTM26289 points290 points  (63 children) | Copy

Fuck her. If she can't be with you and support you at your lowest point then she damn well doesn't deserve you at your highest point.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike164 points165 points  (43 children) | Copy

“If she can’t handle me at my worst, she doesn’t deserve me at my best?”

Hmm, where have I heard this before? Oh that’s right, from women. This is flawed thinking.

Women don’t love unconditionally, they love opportunistically as it suits them. Above all, they want a man with a strong frame. It sounds like OP didn’t maintain control over his emotions. I don’t blame him for his grief or feelings of depression, but most women suck at being the one for a man to lean on. It’s not in their DNA.

A man can find himself struggling with depression and grief, and sadly, a woman can easily not give a flying fuck except to consider how she’s going to be affected. It would be great if his girlfriend stuck around or gave him some emotional support, but it sounds like she took the easier route and noped out of there because she had better and/or more stable options.

This, friends, is the very nature of woman.

My bet is she’s going to tell the next guy about her ‘crazy ex’, and he’s going to believe every word of it because it sounds a lot better than, “my ex was justifiably struggling with some serious emotions and I opted not to stick around for that.”

[–]Superl00se65 points66 points  (15 children) | Copy

This is absolutely spot on.

Last Christmas I made the mistake of telling my wife I was struggling from some depression and she did not give a fuck.

She tried. She pretended. But at the end of it when I mentioned that she didn't lift a finger to help me, she told me she thought I was lying.

I won't make that mistake again and OP shouldn't either.

[–]hedden936 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

When I told my ex I've been struggling with depression my whole life, she used it to help benefit her affair. She would say "you're acting crazy about him! He's just a friend. This is your depression speaking!" Meanwhile she was fucking him for last 6 months of the relationship

[–]The_Quiet_Pupil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can so relate to this. I told my ex about my insecurities in a moment of weakness and she used it to swat aside any objections I had about her "good friend". Every time I'd say something it was just my insecurities acting up according to her. Turns out they were in a fwb situation for more than a year.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

I’m curious to know if you overtly told her that you needed or wanted emotional support from her.

[–]Superl00se31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Specifically? I was having trouble hooking up some electronics for my entertainment center.

It had been a difficult year and I was reckoning some mistake I had made.

I got pissed and yelled. She asked me what my problem was, I told "I need help."

I told her I was depressed and that in any normal circumstance I would not admit as much to her, but I needed her help.

It started an argument. I told her I was asking for her help and this is how she reacts? I'd never make that mistake again.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

To be honest, I would have laughed at you for being so upset about some electronic bug.

Prob would have helped you figure it out though too. ;)

Yah, women see this as the huge sign of weaknes, that it actaully is, and can get very hostile.

For them, baked into their DNA, it is a life threatening problem when their man is weaker than them. This isn't ever going to change.

[–]-DeadLock2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is weird to me? I have full on ugly cried in front of my girlfriends and if anything it only made our relationships better at the time. Plenty of sex kept coming too. Wtf are you guys doing to end up with women like this.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'd rather be alone then act stoic and not show my emotions. If she doesn't like them then get the fuck out, skank.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

Then you are destined to be forever alone.

A grown man will never get the unconditional love they had from Mama, ever again.

Men play the father roll for women though. Part of the job description.

Best get use to that harsh reality if you want to keep a girl around.

Bitching about how millions of years of evolution has made us humans is useless.

Modifying your behavior to deal with it most efficiently is a key tenant of RP teachings.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I dunno it's kinda nice being alone. My dad was super emotional. Yelling and screaming and throwing fits. Everyone was terrified including my mom, but theyve been together for 40+ years now.

I think women can feed off the emotion if you do it right. They just can't be pussy emotions. Women love insanity, it reminds then of themselves.

If you're truly happy, (an emotion btw)you can get pussy left and right, but if you gotta twist yourself into never showing emotions, even around women that can lead to disassociation and other mental problems down the line.

The bottom line is, women are not the answer to anything. Don't twist yourself up into a fucked up pretzel just get some pussy. The Buddha said something like be a happy elephant No one fucks with an elephant when he's happy.

Being reserved emotional cripples all the time sounds like you're just waiting to die. You can't really understand happiness without understand sadness either. I'm very sorry for the guy who lost his dad. 😟

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

LOL... a woman that puts up with constant whining from her man is a "good, quality woman" to you?

Ok bud, you're standing on your head.

If a woman fails to give you a hard time, when you are constantly acting like a weak child,

then she's the one with low SMV. Inside she would MUCH rather have a strong man.

She just can't do any better.

Please read the side bar. More.

Or don't, just don't be surprised when she swings up to the next higher branch.

[–]Distractingyou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lord thats stupid logic first smv are relative terms so you cant judge a bitch smv for standing with a man with strong emotions most betas think pure stoicism means girls will go submissive to them thanks to their powerfull masculine frame In reality girls will interpret that as you are swallowing your emotions and that you are bullshit.

stoicism is great and it should be applied in all aspects of life but when it comes down to tolerance to womans bullshit its better to show low patiencr rather than high if a bitch starts talking shit i just go away or tell them to go away i dont need their bullshit most man that act "stoic" their girls just bitch more because stoicism is not a philosophy they are capable of understanding, only solipsism and thats fucking sidebar material

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not "attacking" you dude. Sheesh.

Just... trying to get a woman to play Mama for you... like the vast majority of these posts...

I mean...

I'd rather be alone then act stoic and not show my emotions. If she doesn't like them then get the fuck out, skank.

Total cringe.

"just hold out for that special unicorn" is what the advice these boys will read. It's what most of them are giving.

You ain't doin' OP (or anyone) no good with that idea.

OP's SMV wasn't enough, and most kids here either.

And you going all depressive for WEEKS, and yer girl not giving you shit... heh, doubt. You're probably not as NEEDY when you go under the radar as OP was doing. Still doubt.

In general yah, what you're saying has truth to it, but in this situation... getting pissed off at the woman's nature is ridiculous. Don't be crying to her all the time, that's the point.

take care

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. What can give us emotional support then?

[–]sixseven8918 points19 points  (20 children) | Copy

Lmao that’s totally different. That saying gives them an excuse to act like shitheads because “it’s just me at my worst”. This isn’t OP acting like a shithead, this is a dark time in his life.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao that’s totally different.

Not in the least. Sounds like you've been hanging out in /menslib.

OP isn't being a "shithead", but expecting your woman to play the roll of Mama is a recipe for disaster.

Millions of years of evolution have made them that way. Best learn to deal with it.

Basically a core philosophy of TRP.

[–]AlpacaStrap-1 points0 points  (18 children) | Copy

Being weak is acting like a shit head. When women get bitchy and bold, they are acting masculine which is intolerable behavior, same as acting weak as a man is feminine behavior, which is just as intolerable.

It’s your DUTY as a man to be strong.

It’s fine to have dark times, but it’s not an excuse to be weak around your women. There’s never an excuse, it doesn’t matter what you’re going through. Take it or leave it.

You know how a strong masculine man acts in this situation? He hits the gym, he lets it out with some bros, and swallows that pain when around his woman. Men lose their fathers, it’s not an excuse to become a bitch.

[–]MakoShark9315 points16 points  (12 children) | Copy

Haha, but are you doing that for yourself or approval? Yeah, be a man but all this RP shit to the point where you dismiss your father's death? Fuck that. Handle your shit, definitely. But that's heavy as fuck and you know it. Have you lost your father yet? If not, then quit posturing. If you have, give this man actionable advice. REAL actionable advice.

[–]OursIsTheRepost11 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy

Could not agree more. When I found out my sister was killed I balled like a child, in front of my wife and everything, If that causes her to lose interest then fuck her

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

What others are saying doesn't exclude crying or having a breakdown when hearing bad news.

There is a line and every man knows it.

And your emotional support needs can not be aimed at her.

[–]OursIsTheRepost0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

There were no emotional support needs. I broke down when my mom called to tell me yes. Right after that i straightened up, drove home to help plan the funeral and spoke for my family at the ceremony cause my dad couldn’t without crying.

[–]ReclaimYourForeskin1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

You're a good son. I hope your dad knows he and your mom raised an honorable man.

[–]OursIsTheRepost1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I appreciate that more than you know

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That's what trusted brothers are for.

You have just said "fuck her" to the VAST majority of women.

/menslib or /MGTOW is for you.

TRP knowledge is completely opposite of what you're saying.

[–]OursIsTheRepost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m currently married so I think I’m good without those trash subs. Good luck man

[–]juliusstreicher4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

He DID give him actionable advice. "Stop expecting your woman to give a shit!! Quit crying like a bitch, hoping for sympathy from a chick!"

"Bros", while being sympathetic, don't want us to be crying or acting out around them...how much less a woman??

[–]AlpacaStrap1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Who the fuck said dismiss his father’s death? Read between the lines.

[–]PopePalpatineTheWise0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah grieve your father's death but don't blame the woman if she leaves you because you showed her weakness.

Wanting women to stay when you show them your feelings and your weaknesses is a fantasy. It sucks but that's the truth. People who don't want that can take a blue pill and close their eyes to the truth and then wonder why the woman leaves.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Losing your father is the harshest thing a man ever has to deal with.

I mean, if he actually meant anything to you. Now YOU are the man, no backup.

That said, trying to get your girl to play the Mama roll is a huge mistake.

REAL actionable advice is to talk about your deep problems with MALE friends.

Trying to blame women for something that is baked into their DNA over millions of years, bucking against that harsh reality, only makes more problems.

The shitty "advice" you're talking about is a recipe for "forever alone", because a woman needing to play Mama for her man is disgusting to them.

They might SAY they want that, might even TRY, but their natural state is aversion.

To try and say otherwise is straight up bluepill / rad-fem bullshit.

Please go read the sidebar some more before regurgitating /menslib propaganda.

[–]Distractingyou2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are a blue pill cock lol i read your comment dont mourn your father because a fucking girl is testing your masculinity? You are the fucking definition of a simp, go read sidebar again who cares about a fucking random bitch

[–]whatnololyea3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

The downvotes reveal that not a lot of people here have swallowed the red pill and still cling to a fantasy that men are allowed to be weak.

[–]juliusstreicher5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. It's reverting to BP. May as well say "Going to the gym isn't intuitive! If she doesn't wanna fuck me while I'm a fat slob, she doesn't deserve to fuck me when I'm buff!"

[–]KilluminatiGotti25 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is true, you can be weak, you can be a pussy, but don’t dare show your girl under any circumstance. If you do show that side of yourself to her, don’t be surprised when she gets turned off and makes it 100x worse. Even if she tells you it’s ok to cry and lean on her, don’t even think about it.

They just aren’t programmed to support and inconsolable man, they don’t know how to motivate and lead. I noticed that a lot of times they actually get angry and lash out at you which makes your pain amplified

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

LOL no. It is a dynamic baked right into a woman's DNA.

You are not going to change millions of years of evolution.

A grown man will never, ever have the unconditional love he had from Mama. Ever again.

Best learn to deal with that harsh reality and talk about such deep problems with trusted MALE brothers.

You are spewing some serious /menslib bullshit. Go read the sidebar more please.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Punish them for something neither you nor they can change.

This sounds completely insane.

The rest of your points are valid. Yes, it's important to train people to treat us well. Low tolerance for inappropriate behavior.

There is no use in bitching about a woman finding weakness in her man detestable though. That is not anything learned, it is instinct.

I don't agree you shouldn't care... or should. That's for you.

Just see the reality and act most efficiently. In this case that means don't expect your woman to play Mama for you. That's what trusted male friends are for.

Being mad about that is silly. Just modify your behavior.

Or maybe go see a shrink.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (16 children) | Copy

I feel like sex isn't the answer here.

[–]empatheticapathetic31 points32 points  (15 children) | Copy

It’s like you read the “fuck her” and ignored the rest of the comment.

[–]sharpwolfangs55 points56 points  (14 children) | Copy

That's...the joke

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (13 children) | Copy

Thanks at least someone got it lol. Appreciate all the downvotes.

[–]AstroBolt7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

It’s bad taste on a post like this

[–]LethalShade3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Meh, disagreed. Humor is precisely used to lighten the mood in situation like this. Beyond the practical advice of not worrying about the girl because she's low-quality trash, what else is he supposed to do but somehow try to cheer himself up?

[–]brosky7331-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Leave it to the guy who lost his father to decide that

[–]redditor67tny3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

ok bro its reddit

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Umm... you're saying we should leave the bullshit rad-fem crap uncontested?

If she can't be with you and support you at your lowest point then she damn well doesn't deserve you at your highest point.

Saying this about a woman is completely, utterly laughable. VERY disappointing to see it upvoted to the top here.

If you find any truth in that then you're in the wrong sub. /menslib is more for you. :(

OP's mistake was expecting his chosen woman to play the Mama roll for him. That's what trusted MALE friends are for. Brothers. Even one. Failing that, paying for a shrink is infinitely superior than crying to your girl.

Men are required to play the Father roll in relationships, LTR anyway, the other way around doesn't work, even if they try to tell you otherwise.

Best get use to that harsh reality.

[–]PopePalpatineTheWise0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Agree u/AstroBolt shouldn't tell u/Rage8150 what's bad taste and what's not.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He can tell me... I'm just not gonna listen lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Aww sorry about that.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck her. If she can't be with you and support you at your lowest point then she damn well doesn't deserve you at your highest point.

LOL... you are talking about the VAST majority of women.

The mistake here was trying to put her in the roll of Mother. She can't help what is baked into her DNA from millions of years of evolution. That is never going to change.

Best get use to the fact and adjust your behavior. Else you'll be saying "Fuck Her" to every woman you try to cry to. This is a core tenant of RP teachings. Very disappointing to this comment is currently sitting at the top. Total /menslib bluepill bullshit.

Women that SAY they want to see your emotions usually are disgusted when you do. Some might even try, but their natural state is aversion at such signs of weakness. It's a shit test, if they know it or not.

You can play the roll of Father for a chosen woman. Part of the job description. Other way around don't work.

This is why having trusted male fiends, brothers, is so important. And why the rad-fem cult is so against all-male environments. Even a paid head shrink is better than crying to your woman.

No man will ever have the unconditional love from a woman like he got from Mama, ever again.

Best get use to that fact.

[–]FrankTM260 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing I said was blue pill. In fact, situations like these is exactly why hypergamy exists. If she isn't willing to hold him down/support him at his lowest point, she damn sure isn't going to do it when he is thriving and should not reap the benefits.

Women were created to be a helper of Men from the onset. Modern women don't understand this. She couldn't even do this basic function. She couldn't get out of her own way for two seconds and possibly think about anyone but herself.

My point still stands. Fuck her and the horse she rode in on. Best to forget about her and move on.

[–]alphaonthecomeup27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m sorry.

Not gonna sugar coat it and say it’s easy. But for real just take it easy and grieve. You can get back to self improvement and stoicism later when you’re ready.

Just survive. The emotions will one day not be as strong as they are, until one day they are gone completely, one minute, hour and day at a time.

[–]soulure30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy

Your dad gave you one final gift of allowing you to see the true side of your girlfriend's lack of compassion and save you from more pain down the road. May he rest in peace. You don't have to maintain stoicism all the time, therapists and other trusted men can and do help. Sounds strange, but pets can also be good listeners.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is in no way specific to just his girlfriend.

It is the law of nature, evolved over millions of years, and it ain't gonna change any time soon.

Otherwise, very good advice.

[–]TRP_Scepter58 points59 points  (12 children) | Copy

I'm sorry for your loss. A father is irreplaceable. As for the woman, as cold as this may sound, I'm not surprised. Women can't handle deep emotions from a man because of their biological hardwiring and childish mental capacity. To most women, seeing a man at his worst is repulsive. Kick her to the curb, move on, and take this lesson and experience with you.

Godspeed. I want to hear about your progress one day.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

OP's fatal mistake was showing weakness.

Bitching about women's nature, evolved over millions of years of evolution, is completely and utterly useless.

Learning to deal with the harsh reality is what TRP is about.

Talking about such deep pain is for MALE friends, trusted ones.

Expecting a female to play the roll of Mama for her mate is 100% bluepill bullshit.

SHE kicked HIM to the curb. Harsh, of course, but understandable when you understand Women.

Such is what TRP is all about.

This is why we have to protect them from themselves.

What?? lol no. There is no "protection" from natural instincts. To fight them is as useless as telling someone "just cheer up!" after losing a beloved father.

If you are an actual female, sounds like /RedPillWomen is the place for you. You're not offering anything useful with that comment here. Pretty sure they'd tell you the same there though.

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[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I commented so much because there is so much bluepill bullshit being broadcast here.

Repeated myself a bit, sure, but all of it is true.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

She has lost respect for him because of how childish women's mind is.

lol it hs zero to do with childishness. Full grown, very intelligent women act this way too.

So yes, you're expecting them to not. Not act that way,

so you're going to kick like 99% of women to the curb.

I agree it's prob no good with that one, for OP I mean,

but in the future, he'd be best off talking about deep emotions to a brother, not his woman.

Advising him that he needs to find a girl he can act like a weak child with is counterproductive. She might not give him shit for it, but she'd MUCH rather be with a strong man.

Can't be surprised at that, or at her swinging to the next higher branch at the first opportunity.

OP lost her respect. Yes. She kicked him to the curb. Best to cut that loss, but part of moving on is learning from your mistakes.

Like don't expect your woman to play the roll of Mama for you. They aren't childish for doing this, it's in their best interest, and that of the human race.

[–]Distractingyou0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You didnt understand even if a woman is smart and grown up they have a lower mind not capable of understanding the suffering of man thats his point you are still talking like if they were your equals they are not capable of it.

[–]Remnant_Lotus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Saying women can’t understand the suffering of man is funny. They can feel the emotion and suffering very well and are actually more sensitive to it that’s why they are “weaker” because they r less able to handle it. But whether a woman wants to hear that type of emotion from her man and is revolted by it is another thing.

[–]throwaway182690-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Women are just as mature emotionally as men. Why would anyone want to have a sexual relationship with someone with the emotions of a child? That sounds pretty gross tbh.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women are not bulilt to deal with playing the Mama roll for their Man.

This isn't going to change any time soon. It evolved that way through millions of years of evolution.

The natural state is for a woman to be revolted by such. It is a threat to their security to have a man on their side that is weaker than them.

Women saying they want their man to "show more emotion" is a shit-test.

Amazing to hear otherwise here. It is a basic tenant of RP wisdom.

[–]throwaway1826900 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There's a difference between a woman playing a mother role to her man and a man showing emotion. My boyfriend and I are open with each other emotionally but I don't feel like I'm his mother.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not OP's situation then.

[–]blacwidonsfw14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry about your dad.

[–]ViolentInteger18 points19 points  (12 children) | Copy

Im fucking entitled to some emotion

Indeed you are. And non-shitty women that you invite into your life would be perfectly OK with accepting this.

So it comes down to two possibilities. Either you really lost control (you used the word "rage") and you set off red flags in her mind, or you picked a shitty girlfriend.

Which is it?

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] 10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

I guess its irresponsible of me not to assume some accountability. I absolutely lost control at one point after an extended period of burying my emotions. The rage I think was a manifestation of being with a shitty girl for so long as well, I’ve been spinning a pretty immature girl for ~5 years and I had a very unhealthy oneitis towards her while still sleeping around.

Insightful comment, really triggers some introspection. Thank you

[–]failingtheturingtest3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

This attitude is why you'll do well. Hold onto it.

As I'm sure you realise, This isn't a case of "all women are shitty and don't let you have any emotions". It's not the world's fault. You're not a victim. You had plenty of choices up to here. Why did you choose to stay with a shiity, immature girl for 5 years? Why did you hold your emotions in? Why did you rage? These are things you now have the chance to try and figure out.

I've kept shit people around me at certain times in my life. Even pushed away good people because they didn't like the shit people. I learned from it. One of the key things I learned is that I am capable of being a shit person. And when I am, I choose to spend time with other shit people because it makes me feel more comfortable about being shit. I'm very fortunate that some of those good people were still around when I learned this.

It'll be 17 years this year since I lost my father. I'm sorry to say, you'll likely never be truly "over it". I hope you get to be the man you want him to know you are.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Oh god, more of this crap.

Dude, it is NOT the nature of women to play Mama for their man.

Men do play the roll of Papa for their woman, but the other way around is against how we have evolved through millions of years.

Her disgust at OP's displayed weakness is NORMAL and NATURAL. This isn't going to change, not anytime soon, certainly not in our lifetimes, even for generations. There's no "shitty" or "good" about it, but it IS how women are. It is nature's "fault" but that's completely useless too. It is in a woman's best advantage to find signs of weakness in her man abhorrent. Best come to grips with that fact.

Dealing with such harsh realities is what TRP is about.

You need to read the sidebar and stop spewing BluePill bullshit, like so many others in this thread.

Talking about deep problems is for trusted MALE friends. Lacking that, even a shrik is better than trying to cry to your woman all the time. This is very basic level 101 RP stuff.

Dealing with reality is to your best advantage. You're trying to feed OP a BluePill fantasy. :/

[–]failingtheturingtest0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Read again hombre. At no point did I say she would be there for him.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why did you choose to stay with a shiity, immature girl for 5 years?

This implies there are others out there that would react differently. Gleefully play the roll of Mama for her man.

Trying to paint it like OP is going to find some unicorn is shitty advice,

and directly the opposite of RP knowledge.

The girl was acting according to a Woman's nature. Best to come to terms with that fact and act accordingly.

[–]failingtheturingtest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're understanding of my comment is about as thorough as your understanding of a person's nature.

Leave the complex ideas to others mate.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Your dad died and she didn’t treat you like “her captain.” If she can’t do it at a crisis point like that then she isn’t worth your time.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then no woman is. Where are you getting this bluepill bullshit?

Read the sidebar again, you missed a HUGE point about women there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know what your point is - but if he was in a LTR with her she should have made a pretense of support.

Counterpoint also being that some women (if you look on RPW) know they are supposed to be supportive of men going through a hard thing like losing a father.

He did mention he had some long simmering issues with her, and she probably focused on those to justify her behavior.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know what is really up.

Ignore the BluePill boys trying to blame her for acting that way.

NO woman is built to play Mama for their man. Not in their nature, and that will never change.

Now you know, and can act accordingly in the future.

Talk to close male friends about such deep things. If nothing else, pay for a shrink. NOT cry to a woman about stuff.

It is in their best suitability advantage to find men disgusting that are weaker than themselves.

Losing your father is the worst thing that a man has to deal with in life. Now YOU are the man, no backup. Also why good male friends are important.

A man plays the Father roll for his woman sometimes. It never works well in reverse.

Once in a blue moon you might let her see you shed a tear, if you frame it JUST right: "I never cry, I guess I trust you." might make her feel special, but that can also backfire.

As grown men, we will never have the unconditional love we had from Mama. To expect that from any other woman is as useless as telling someone that lost their father "just cheer up".

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

And non-shitty women that you invite into your life would be perfectly OK with accepting this.

Horrific "advice". Totally BluePill take. Please read the sidebar more before spewing such /menslib bullshit.

No woman is built to play Mama for her man. That's what close male friends are for.

Women might SAY they want their men to "show emotions", might even honeslty TRY, but the disgust for such displays of weakness is built into their DNA through millions of years of evolution.

Of your 2 choices, the first is the only possibility.

Anyone that spent the minimum time reading RP stuff knows this.

My god and this thread is full of blaming the girl for simple human female nature.

Harsh reality, but you will never have Mama love, ever again, not as a grown man. To expect it from any woman is a recipe for disaster.

[–]ViolentInteger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You sound like a 19 year old who learned the basics and now thinks they're an expert.

Also: why did a few words cause such an emotional response from you? Rhetorical question, because I already know the answer.

[–]AlpacaStrap23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

My condolences OP.

Now this is going to be a hard pill to swallow, but this is a valuable lesson about female nature. With women, you do not get to be emotional when shit goes south. That is not a privilege you get as a man. You must always show strength.

Remember, substantial weakness (showing a weak emotional state) is miles worse than superficial weakness (a physical injury).

A lot of guys here are saying “fuck her” but this is just female nature, you can’t blame them for it. It’s just how it is. It doesn’t matter what happened, it’s your responsibility as a man to only show strength, never weakness. You do that shit around bros or in private.

When my grandfather on my father’s side died, he didn’t cry or get angry. He was as normal as ever, just a little more quiet. He took out his emotions behind closed doors, he never showed them with my mother or my family. This is part of being a strong male lead.

Not saying you’re at fault for your emotions OP, but you must refrain from showing them around your women.

The moment you show weakness, love is lost. It’s the same as if she started acting like a slut. It doesn’t matter why, it’s intolerable.

[–]Chalphamale8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post. I remember when my grandfather died, my dad didn't show any emotion in front of me or my mom at the time. I remember wondering how in the world could he be so emotionless, but now I get it. Doesn't make it easy though, but it shows why maintaining solid male friendships is important no matter where you're at in your dating life

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This comment belongs at the top.

Absolutely laughable that the top comment here is currently this BluePill bullshit:

Fuck her. If she can't be with you and support you at your lowest point then she damn well doesn't deserve you at your highest point.

When perfect RP advice like yours is sitting down here at the end. Keep up the good work there Mr. Strap.

[–]QueenSlapFight9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

Same thing kind of happened to me. My long term girlfriend (of years and years) didn't exactly leave me, but definitely treated me like garbage when my father was in ICU and eventually passed. She just could not handle my emotional priority focused anywhere else. After the fact she then tried to do everything in her power to cause drama to try to assure my emotional direction was toward her, not my grief. I had already swallowed the pill so I handled it stoically and did not lean on her, but her behavior was an absolute betrayal in my book. Absolutely disgusting and selfish. It really sucked having to end the relationship while I was dealing with grief from a betrayal from someone you'd have hoped would have been supportive.

It sucks man. There's no words that can be said that will make it better with the exception of perhaps "it's not your fault". You're right, you're human. You could be the biggest badass out there and if an immediate family member dies you're allowed some grief. If your girlfriend can't live without the tingles for one fucking day before moving on, you're better without her.

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Brother this really hits the spot, I had the same skepticism about her behavior leading up to his passing. A lot of drama that I could tell was attention seeking. I appreciate the advice, much love.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It is horrible advice. The part about expecting women to be supportive of you when you're weak I mean.

Totally spits in the face of all RP knowledge and is very detrimental to your future happiness with women.

[–]QueenSlapFight-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stay strong. You'll be in my thoughts.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

If your girlfriend can't live without the tingles for one fucking day before moving on, you're better without her.

This is nonsense BluePill bullshit.

It is not in a woman's nature to play Mama for her man. Harsh reality, but best deal with it as such.

Male freinds are for talking about deep problems. You can play the Papa roll for your woman, pretty much in the job description, but the other way around don't work. Expecting it to is madness and horrible advice.

[–]QueenSlapFight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You'd have a point if I said anything close to her needing to play his mama. Sorry, but if a woman can't handle her ego not being stroked for a week or so while a guy buries his dad, he's better off without her. You sound completely fake and unrealistic. Have fun smashing some pussy on your dad's casket you big bad red dog you.

[–]Guarnerre199510 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for you dad my bro.

Her loss, she also died for you

[–]Whatdoin272 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm sorry about your old man. Hope the best for you. And, I won't even acknowledge that girl.

[–]SupremeBBC1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You kinda did... acknowledge her 😅

[–]Whatdoin274 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol yeah I guess so. Fuck her though.

[–]DerpJungler2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man, don't be too hard on yourself.

Take your time, grieve and honor your father. It sucks when a son loses his father but the strength that comes after is enlightening, trust me. The connection you HAVE with your father will only get stronger and will only make you for powerful and wise.

Take your time and collect yourself, let out your emotions but don't take it out on others.

Stoicism teaches us how to deal with each situation in order to be at peace. It doesn't teach a specific way on how everyone must act and behave.

In regards to the girl, I'm not even gonna comment on that. You have more important things to reflect on and you will see how this struggle will shape you to be a better man. You will learn how struggles only make us stronger and on top of that, true abundance will be revealed to you once you get back on your feet.

Stay strong my guy.

[–]Casanova-Quinn2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Generally speaking, it's not good to express "sad" emotions in front of your girl. You're better off expressing those feelings to a close friend or when alone. This pertains to the typical bullshit life throws at you. The death of a loved one is more serious though, and a girl who doesn't empathize with that is likely not worth it. Good riddance.

[–]EscritorDelMal2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


Granted, I did not communicate with her, I was just low energy, annoyed, moody - really I just wanted to be alone for some time but I didn't communicate that, plus I became more emotional and reactive. More mate guarding in a sense. So it wasn't as bad and dry as what your post makes your situation sound. My GF didn't leave a week after but she still didn't think the fact my father died could have been affecting my behavior. But then again, why expect that? anyway I get u bro.

[–]drsherbert2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck that hoe. Your dad died. Take all the time you need to grieve. You get better eventually brotha.

[–]superomar132 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't let this one instance make you bitter. Fuck her, you're allowed to show emotion of course man, your fucking father passed away. And believe me when I tell you that there are TONS of women out there that would have sympathized. She probably already had a few red flags and also had already made up in her mind that she would leave you long before your father got sick. You got this mate, see it through and come out stronger.

[–]Lostfate092 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

FUCK THAT BITCH. Sorry about your dad.

[–]EnzoGSilvestre3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

First off you shouldn’t even care that she left. You should derive no happiness from this girl at all

She’s just an add on to your already awesome life

Bitches they come they go.

I send my condolences to your family.

[–]SupremeBBC4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Saturday through Sunday Monday

Monday through Sunday, yo.

[–]Aakash0504 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe I'll love you one day

Maybe we'll someday grow

[–]EveryEntrance52 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Till then I’ll sit my drunk ass on this runway

[–]seducter4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Hey man, I'm really sorry for your loss. This is a tough time for you as you've lost your father and the woman you most likely loved. It's fucking hard man, and not only are you entitled to some emotion, you need to just give yourself time to process those emotions.

It's fucking tough man, I get it. But tough times don't last, tough people do.

This Covid situation has fucked so many people over, and I myself lost my job, which resulted in my gf leaving shortly after as well.

Give yourself time, man. Time to feel those painful emotions. Time to remember your father, and all of the memories you made with him. Time to just stare at the wall. Time to yell and cry.

I believe men are capable of deeper levels of emotion than women can comprehend, like a deep well that we aren't supposed to draw from. Sometime it bubbles up and flows over. It scares the weak ones and they run. Maybe it scares all of them, AWALT, after all.

Regardless, you will get through this stronger, it's what your father would want. He would be proud that you reached out for help today.

And that girl did you the biggest favor. She showed her hand, and revealed that she would disappear down the line whenever things get tough. Some advice on this part is that I would try to separate your emotions for the woman you THOUGHT she was, vs the woman she TRULY was. Realize you didn't lose the woman you thought she was, as she was never that person to begin with.

Finally, there's another red pill the world is starting to come to realize. China is the enemy. China took your dad, China took your girl, China took my job, China took my girl.

Even if you have to hold onto that hate to make it through each day.

Best wishes, and Fuck China.

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re so right about that false idealization of her; and for real, im going to my local recruiting station as soon as Papa Trumpuru sounds the alarm

[–]skizzum971 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck China indeed

[–]jackandjill220 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I kind've agree. China as alot to answer for.

[–]1rad_dynamic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think when looking for an LTR you have to allow for some emotional "flexibility" (note flexibility not support)from her. Sounds like you had a plate dynamic but with an LTR.

Absolutely not the end-all-be-all chief. I'd say you shouldn't have ever LTR this bitch IF you were looking for some flexibility. If an LTR is built on your stoicism, then ofc it will fall apart when you are no longer stoic.

Have a read of Models by Mark Manson. It will help you understand what I mean.

[–]theunconquored1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We definitely don't have to objectify women. And you don't have to maintain stoicism. You don't have to stuff emotions.

You don't HAVE to do anything. Everything is a choice, brother. The sun is going to come up tomorrow and the world is going to go on. Emotions are real. They're a part of the fabric of life.

So is the fact that women, some more than others, but all to some extent are turned off by weakness. No man is an island, and no man is without weakness. And some women have more empathy and heart than others.

I don't know nearly enough about your frame or your relationship to comment on why the hell she would leave you after losing your father. It speaks to either her character or your lack of frame/the relationship quality leading up to this. But who gives a fuck. There are thousands more like her. If she's not bringing you up, then let her go.

Men can and do experience life emotionally. It's what we do with those emotions that you're troubled by. If we insist on dumping them on our women and expecting them to make us feel better, we can't expect much success. I believe that people deal with emotions in one of two fundamental ways.

  1. The feminine way: You experience a negative emotion, then bring it to the person nearest to you and "talk about it". This helps the feeler release the sadness, grief, anger, etc. But it loads it onto the receiver. The original feeler is relieved by loading the weight onto the shoulders of someone else. Women do this to each other all the time, passing their burdens around between each other. It becomes the "crabs in a bucket" analogy, where everyone is bringing everyone else down and keeping them there.
  2. The masculine way: Radical acceptance. You experience a negative emotion, then accept that it is real. Understand it. You lost your father, for God's sake. If that didn't hurt, you either had a terrible father OR you are a psychopath, which you clearly aren't. You experience the grief and accept it. You let it come and you let it hit you, and you accept it. If you need to vent, you do it with a strong guy friend who has enough of his own frame to listen. You don't vent to a woman, and definitely not a woman you want to fuck, but times like these are about more than fucking. Then you let time heal, as it does, and start to look for silver linings and find what you can make better in your life out of your new reality.

Men don't have to be anything we don't want to be. TRP is about how men can choose to be, if we want certain results with women.

And I'm sorry for the loss of your father, sincerely.

[–]saif_tidux1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss. It's for the best that bitch left. My father himself has contracted COVID-19. I have learnt who's a genuine and who's not. Stay strong

[–]hombredelmurir1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss dude. If I may ask, how old was your dad? And how many members are in your family?

[–]LegendarySuperSalsa1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You are allowed to feel these emotions we’re not all just rocks some people can shut them in or silence them completely (but they’re typically sociopaths). You are absolutely also allowed to express them under conditions just like this, however make sure you recover yourself quickly after she gives you some grief consolation as this is a (good) womans job to make us feel better when we’re down and do whatever they can and get us to stand back up again in our moments of weakness. I’m not saying to get over it and lock away your emotions, but don’t constantly fall apart in front of a girl over something you have no control over. If she has to witness you raging, crying, and depressed every day or multiple times a day and has to constantly help you pull yourself back together then she will see you as weak. Women look to us to be the unbreakable and resilient strong force that keeps them feeling safe and secure. If you break down too often and express too much uncertainty, doubt, despair, or other feelings or emotions of negativity she’s not going to see you as good man material. If you still have depression over what happened get help and see a therapist or grief counselor if you cannot deal with the grief by yourself. The loss of your father is something to grieve about, losing your bitch girlfriend who wouldn’t stick it out with you is not. And just remember no parent would be happy seeing their children upset because of them, as sad as it is do your best to keep positive thoughts. I’m not sure honestly if the afterlife exists but if he can see you now make sure you’re doing your best.

[–]samurai_011 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss. Stop thinking about some bitch who bailed out in your difficult time. She's not worth it. There are bigger problems in your life, you need to take care of.

[–]catsdontsmile1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck that POS of a girlfriend. You don't have to shut things in, you owe your dad to grief his death. If the cost of it is this bitch, she was never worth that much to begin with. Fuck her and block her everywhere, find better, she just saved you a lot of time finding out how she'd act at your worst.

[–]PebbleChunk1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is your one POSITIVE at this awful time for you.... You have been granted years to spend time with hopefully at least marginally better women instead of a TOTAL CUNT

[–]mr4kino1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss mate. And no I doesn't agree with some other comments. Take probably half of the grandmas of the guys here, they all had empathy. Nowadays we have sh*t show of psychos so don't bother with them. Keep it up mate it's hard but it get easier with time.

[–]kellykebab1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your girlfriend is trash. It's okay to be mad.

Just look for a better one. I don't subscribe to the notion that no women are capable of being fair or reasonable anymore. As long as generally hold frame and are driven, there are a small percentage of women who will still be loyal when you are at your worst. You just have to look harder to find this kind of woman.

[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Condolences man and fuck that bitch, take your time to grieve and get back to work, life goes on, stay strong bro!

[–]psychotropy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Firstly, sorry for your loss brother...Secondly. Be thankful she showed you she wasn't worth shit now, rather than later after you've wasted time/resources on her. Next her, and give her nothing but dick from here on out. On second thought, she's not worthy of that either, lol.

[–]sicoks1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s no stoicism in this, brother. Very few thinfsb in this world are a greater pain than the death of a beloved family member

[–]falldogbombsthemoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You deserve to grieve and you should do that without considering any woman right now. Be the best that you can right now, day after day. Get some mental strength back, reflect on the ex-gf, and move on.

[–]spedoid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry about your dad. I can honestly think of a few girls ive dated who would be there for me when someone died. Most of them would be cunts but a few would be there for me. It's rare to find a girl that will support you when you're sad, but not impossible

[–]alphakari1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good luck with the grief. I couldn't imagine how that feels.

I do know though that that ho was definitely not worth giving up all the other pussy in the world if she can't handle you taking even a week to handle some shit.

I think it's also a lesson in how much contact you can let a bitch get accustomed to. Early on I'd talk to even plates every single day. Now it's every 3 days to 2 weeks, and it's the bitches who I only talk to once every 1-2 weeks that last the longest.

When a girl talks to you every day, she gets too entitled to appreciate that you talk to her at all. Girls can't handle what they percieve to be losses of commitment. They get used to a routine and then start feeling betrayed when you stop talking to them. They don't care why you stopped. They'll treat you celebrating thanksgiving like you just told her you're fucking her sister.

[–]Gtrplyr38381 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry about your Dad. Mine died suddenly several years ago and my wife at the time was of no help. I learned that you must take your emotions elsewhere. There may be women out there who are more supportive but you will lower their attraction to you by being emotionally weak. It sucks but it’s reality and better to know up front and not be disappointed. Don’t look to any woman to be your emotional tampon.

[–]ProFriendZoner1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You only had one dad.

Mourn him.

You'll have plenty of women.

Don't mourn them.

[–]skunkbear4441 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She wasn't the right one. Men tend to be awful at recognizing empathy in women because they focus too hard on themselves and what they did wrong or right.

Self improvement is much overdone in society to men's detriment when it comes to men's relations with women, government, and nation.

There should be a balance of judge the other.

Men should be 50 focusing on women's behaviors in the small things, calling them out, 50 self improvement.

Instead men have resorted to 100% it is always my problem my fault good or bad, self improve more. That is playing 100% defense. Men forgot how to play offense. Many times it is the other's fault and you need to be vigilant on the look out to attack or abandon and move on early when it happens.

In fact the only people or organizations these men tend to hold to high standards are guy friends or other men. "You let your bros down!" "You don't work hard enough you're a loser!". If men held women and governments to the same standard they hold other men everything would be great.

[–]Distractingyou1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand how can this sub rationalize the lack of empathy and the times female nature can be as disgusting as it can get treating it like its just nature and that act stoic to keep that pussy its the worst simp behavior i can think woman don't deserve the leadership and benevolence of man if they are like this trully the only way man will be able to cope with the lack of empathy of females is to genetic engineer them or at least teach man in general you don't owe your stoicism or your frame to girls if you trully don't give a fuck you can go nuclear and tell them to fuck off rather than being a cock to masturbating to the idea of stoicism, being stoic should be applied to everything in your life you don't owe a girl your calm masculine behavior or whatever if man trully want advance we need to accept we are human too and our feelings are part of it and while stoicism is what we should all strive for its also ok if you explode or laugh or get neurotic time time at the end to the ones saying but muh woman will lose respect to me i think you are lying to yourself that your fake stoicism is enough to cover your father death so muh queen doesn't see i have my sad feelings deep down and to show her how red pill i am, to all of you, you are still a cock but you are worse because you have red pill lingo but your actions behavior and real ideology you are blue pill as fuck worse than your typical beta simp.

[–]syg1111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My condolences.

[–]Big_Dick_Capitalist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wrong woman my man, certainly a bitch, not all women are like that however.

Keep grinding.

[–]BusterVadge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you're an alpha type some women will leave you at the first sign of weakness. It truly is in their nature. Not all women are like this though.

Edit: AWALT (it's in their nature), but also not always awalt.

I agree with the other posters though. Fuck her. It's her loss, and your gain for shedding someone who doesn't have an ounce of loyalty.

I'm sorry about your dad, bro. You're entitled to take all the time you need to grieve and return to your normal level of awesomeness.

[–]notaselfdrivingcar2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

May your dad rests in peace

[–]ToldYouNotToWorry_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

sorry for the loss

and you dodged a bullet

[–]McLovinReturns1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You shall, I question not, find a way to the top if you diligently seek for it; for nature hath placed nothing so high that it is out of the reach of industry and valor. - Alexander the Great

The world will test you my friend but you must stay strong and courageous. Seek the top and those who stick with you through everything are the only ones deserving of your kindness and love.

You have my condolences

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

she was waiting for a moment to eject before your dad passed. When he passed and you acted like a human being, it was too much for her, not because of this particular moment, but because she already wanted to leave.

[–]antoniofelicemunro1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The one thing I can’t stand about TRP is how cynical we are about women. Some women will not cheat. This isn’t an issue with women. You just dated a shitty woman.

[–]madara_on_reddit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck her, she is not only a low quality woman she is also a low quality human being, Her lose. Stay strong.

[–]mksu9110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wish I could tell you that this one was just rotten, but that's typical female behavior, happens way more often than you think.

Adjust your attitude towards girls and the space they occupy in your life accordingly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First of all, sorry about your dad, that seriously sucks. you got this bro.

now to address the thing with your GF. Women don't know how to give emotional support to men. straight up. they are incapable. However, it doesn't bother me at all because i understand that it's not malicious. It's because they can barely keep their own emotions together. the emotional burden of their own neurotic mind is overwhelming for them. so they literally cannot add anymore burden. Asking a woman for emotional support is like asking a 5 year old for emotional support. They don't get men and they can't help men. only men can help men with emotions. you need to drop this blue pill notion that your woman is your rock, or that she's someone you can go to in your low times, or that she's someone you can go to for emotional support. NO. YOU CAN'T. THAT's FALSE.

so frankly i sympathize with your situation but you need to understand that the only woman who will ever give you emotional support is your mother..... and that's if you're lucky. you're not expected to not have emotions, fuck man, you can even cry for 3 hours straight in front of your GF if you want and that's cool. but when it goes wrong is if you cry for 3 hours straight IN THE HOPE THAT SHE WILL GIVE YOU EMOTIONAL SUPPORT.

that's the key when it comes to women. You're allowed to show emotion all you want, but you can never. ever. and i really fucking mean it when i say EVER come at them with a vibe like you want THEM to fix it for you, or validate you, or give you support or attention. The reason she got freaked out was because you likely got all emotional around her with a vibe of "i feel bad, i'm really sad, help me GF, make it all better". that bold part is what freaks her out. the first part is fine. You're allowed to have whatever the fuck emotion you want and show it to whoever the fuck you want. In fact, and this is key, to think that you would have to hide your emotions from a girl implies that her opinion on your emotions matter at all, implying you need her approval, ironically. you don't have to hide shit. BUT, as soon as the girl gets any sort of impression (which she gets from your body language, puppy dog eyes, that type of shit) that you're expecting HER to help you with said emotions, THEN she freaks out.

when you want support, the people who can really give you emotional support are your bros, your guy friends. THEY are the ones that i go to when i'm struggling and vice versa and THOSE motherfuckers are reliable. THEY are the ones that get it.

Trust me man, i've tried getting emotional support from girlfriends and i've tried getting emotional support from my close guy friends. When i compare the two, it's worlds a part. when a woman tries to give me emotional support it's like that awkward "there, there" that Sheldon does in the big bang theory cos he's an autistic dude trying to model social interaction. it's just awkward, women don't know how to do it. But when i have those same conversations with my guy friends when i've been going through a hard time, it actually feels like they get it, and they know how to offer you that support you're looking for, the kind of support that works for men i.e. listening, giving you some positive words, generally making you feel more optimistic, telling you to come out for a beer etc. etc.

P.S. in spite of everything i said, if your "GF" left a week after your dad died.... she did you a Favour by fucking off plus she probably wasn't that invested anyway.

[–]TheTastelessBatman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear about your father's loss. I can't even begin to imagine how you feel as this has been my biggest fear my whole life. I send positive vibes and prayers your way. May he RIP.

As for the bitch, forget her man. She ain't shit. Just be glad that the trash took itself out.

[–]throwaway46433665770 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck that bitch man.

I'm truly sorry for your loss

[–]Filmguy0000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm very sorry for your loss. I lost my dad many years ago and it was the worst thing ever.

And trust me, I feel your frustration regarding women. I know the best thing is to kind of just shrug it off and go "meh.AWALT." But if you have a relationship, even the strongest men need that tender touch when we fall hard due to tragedies. So even though you've now seen firsthand how women can be, it's ok to feel pissed off. You will get stronger in the long run.

[–]idontevenlift370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she leaves you during this time, she was never LTR material to begin with.

[–]redvelvet_oreo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey bro. I know you are going through a rought time right now.

Understand even though you are a wreck inside in front of this bitch you have to maintain frame and as you said be stoic.

You need to grieve but just dont do it in front of her. Get some alone time or if you can in this time call one of your boys or hang out with them if you are comfortable in the current setting.

"You have to be the most reliable person at your fathers funeral" - Jordan Peterson

Its easy to hate on this chick right now but the reality is this is women's nature. Your weakness and need to be emotional in her eyes makes you weak and gives her the feeling you cannot protect her. Unfortunately these are the immutable laws of women. TRP is a bitter pill brother.

[–]Kabuki4310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss OP. there's some solid advice and evidence in this thread. Thats really the nature of women. There was a guy not too long ago, his girl left him when he got cancer and had 6 months to live. Reach out to guy friends and grief in private if you need to.

That tells you everything about nature of women.

[–]TheBlockedUser0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are definitely not RP. Otherwise, you would not care if a bitch left you or not.

Take this time to grieve your father and then hit the sidebar.

[–]RedPillUY0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss, man. As for the one who wasn’t there for you in this time: good riddance.

Stay strong, time heals.

[–]MrAnderzon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with a comment from AlpacaStrap that got downvoted for some reason.

It’s a hard truth you’re laying down. And you’re doing what a man is supposed to do. Be a rock to your bro’s and hoe’s.

One’s bro are going to look up to him when in times of need and if your crying along with him in this case you’re not helping that much. But like I said its the truth your father is dead. Mourn but move on. Sooner rather than later.

Look into reading about Stoicism.

All is vanity under the sun. Nothing is new

[–]manfrombelow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm sorry about your father, OP.

About the bitch that got away. When bitches leave, you show them the fucking door.

As cliche as this sounds, but the tiny space the bitch left behind will soon be replaced by a much more quality and better woman, if you take this period to improve and better yourself as a man.

Every misfortune and trauma experience itself is a blessing in disguise. Pain makes men. Swallow this pain and better yourself.

[–]travlingsomewhere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear about your dad.

I was in the same exact situation except I lost my younger brother. I was an emotional mess and gf at the time cheated. It gets better brother!

[–]Hunter2isit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you aren't her emotional tampon and she shouldn't be yours. They aren't your therapist.

That said, its typical and in one way or another happens to us all. It sucks. Focus on you. Lean on some buds and grab a therapist to talk through what you can't say to your friends.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How old was he?

[–]azoooz20120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss bro :(

[–]167167167abc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bro, if you give your girlfriend more priority than a rusted moped which wouldn't start, you're fucked.

A girlfriend must be there to satisfy your needs.

What girlfriends usually do? They just complain all day until we take action on that.

I have seen some guys saying their GF is perfect. After some years, they're like, she's not like I thought.

Some tips- Be fucking selfish with any girl. Everything you do must be for you.

- A vehicle at least must have two tires. One tired vehicles are fucking not stable. Also, it must have a spare tire. Don't just relay on one girl.

Sorry for your dad brother.

[–]paul_ernst0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes you're entitled to some emotion, yes you're a real fucking human being. Feel, and be human. You cannot control the death of your father. You cannot control your girlfriend. What you can control is you. So no need to be stiff and emotionless, be there for your family. Show your emotions, but do not throw them onto someone. Take full responsibility for them. Do not lean out and hope for people to support you (I tends to lead to more grief and suffering), but if people support you, be thankful and rest and lean for a moment. So you can support your family and have them lean on you when you feel strong enough.

Good luck out there brother. Your life will be different and it will take time to adapt.

[–]Carbone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She belong to the street

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Harsh reality is that no woman wants to play Mama for her man.

Men can fill the Father roll for their women. Part of the job description really, but the other way around doesn't work well, if at all.

Possibly once in a blue moon she could see a tear, if you frame it in context: "I never cry. I guess I trust you a lot."... makes her feel like that special one. Risky though, and can backfire.

Some might SAY they want to see emotions from you, might even try to do their best, but the natural state is to be disgusted by such signs of weakness. After a man is grown, he will never experience the unconditional love he got from his mother, not from any other woman, ever again.

This is especially tough for those that grew up without a loving mom, or none at all. Such men need to be extra strong.

There's no use trying to blame the woman for something baked right into her DNA. People are like this because of millions of years of evolution. It isn't going to change any time soon. Best get use to the fact.

Women are not for talking about your problems with. That's what good male friends are for. Even one good brother can be a big help. Failing that, paying for a shrink is highly superior than crying to your woman.

Now you learned a valuable lesson, and know how to handle grief in the future much more efficiently.

The only problem here is that men's stoic sacrifices are not respected and admired enough anymore in modern "civilization".

[–]BareMinimumReddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Were you two living together?

[–]KillaJewels0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I got news for you buddy: guys do the same thing. My current LTR lost her mother a year and a half ago, and while her mom was on her deathbed, her ex broke up w her.

It's more about being with a person with healthy principles as opposed to being with someone selfish/toxic.

Sorry for your loss bro.

[–]Sonny_Luna0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve never had a woman treat me that way. Strange.

[–]thrwy754790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear about your loss.

How old are you both?

[–]yomo860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First male fault: getting emotional. Not a mistake but a fault. This event is unfortunate and I understand you.

Second: You are entitled to nothing. Many people mourned JFK not because he was such a great man but because ettiquette demanded it, otherwise there could be repercussions like ostracization. What you want is her faked sympathy for something she could not care less about. Deal with it. Truth is, while I have sympathy for you, my Amazon parcel will arrive in a couple of minutes and until then I will have forgotten who you are. Yet, you still will have to deal with you own demons. You don't want that kind of sympathy either.

Future personal advise: Whenever I sense that I become emotional (death of a beloved pet, bad results and the like) I just tell everybody I need to be alone. And I am adament about it. Disarms, deflects and mitigates everything. For some odd reason people will hold you in higher regard than being a crybaby. Everyone knows Superman cries, but he does it alone and not in couples therapy with Louis.

[–]MOSFETBJT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Be thankful the trash took itself out (referring to your ex, not your dad)

[–]Ricky4690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's not worth one bit of your emotions or time, fuck her. Sorry about your dad man. COVID is horrible. Concentrate on your needs completely cut her out. Take care of your mom and grieve your Dad. Seek out real friends. Good luck!

[–]Greaterbird0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She did you a favor and outed herself as an unreliable piece of shit. Aren't you glad you found out before getting married?

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Brother, you have my sympathy about your dad. Hopefully he didn't suffer much. We all wish for more time with loved ones, but Covid definitely isn't the worst way to go as far as I know.

I don't know what to tell you. Life's rough. It sucks that you had to find out about your GF's awful character at a low time, but at least you don't have to spend any more of your precious time and attention on a woman-child. In any case she was looking to branch swing even before this. It was just the last nail in her coffin of immaturity.

We're all pulling for you. PM me if you need to vent or something.

[–]Over-Flight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your girlfriend is a shitty human being. Sorry about your father, pray you get through this.

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

> I hate the reality that we have to objectify women as these incapable pieces of meat.

You don't. That's an incel way of thinking. You're really telling me you actually managed to get a girlfriend and STILL went along with that retarded way of thinking?

Damn dude. Sorry about you dad, but the girlfriend thing seemed unavoidable.

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Good point, should work on that

[–]aegeaorgnqergerh0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Read some of the stuff on the sidebar/in the stickied PDF. If you're half intelligent you'l be able to separate the crap from the decent stuff.

Some good philosophy in there, just don't get into the incel crap.

[–]DrKing_Schultz_[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks brother will do, appreciate it

[–]robot3000_010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't know any women like this. You just got a massive bitch. Even high n count women I know aren't like this

[–]linkinway0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Men value love, women love value. Its just that society lied to us that women are capable of loving men with their disney fantasy love stories. And, that line was a tweet by a woman on Twitter, just she was honest.

[–]dkod0660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lmao my gf left me shortly before a 2nd court hearing that was wrecking my life and pretty much when I opened up to her about my mental health problems. Those few months were amongst the worst of my life but it's a learning lesson man. Never expose hour weaknesses to a female, never let them know the real you, never rely on them. List of lessons goes on. Channel your emotions into something productive man, a project, working out. Never sit there and let them simmer man. You've got this

[–]IBETITALL4200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy



The only way you're going to survive this faggot ass timeline is if you obey the Red Pill to the skin of your teeth.

It is your fucking life now.

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[–]Zombiespire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude if she seriously isn't going to be there for you when your father died, posiibly the most important figure of your life, she is a worthless cunt from hell and you would need to get rid of her eventually anyway. Everyone, and yes including men, is entitled to the grief of those they love.

There's no answer to seek here because you didn't do anything wrong. Narcissist roasties like that don't deserve your dick, money, or affection. Find someone who doesn't deserve to die alone like the selfish shits they are man.

[–]beardestbird0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not going to act like I'm some perfect guy on the redpill. Im still working through it. But trust me shes not worth your time. And although AWALT exists there are girls out there that will show more care than this bitch. Bitches are heartless but some less than others.

[–]dominicthetiger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Damn, life would be so much easier if I were as heartless as some of these bitches are lol

[–]Blazer8080 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry to hear about your father. I can't even begin to imagine the pain of losing a parent so I can't give actionable advice about that.

As for your girlfriend, after reading the sidebar and most notably, the manipulated male, I wouldn't rely on a woman for emotional support, just like you can't rely on most of them to help you fix a car, change a tyre, paint a house or anything outside a specific woman's narrow field of interest.

Every post I read here and on the main sub just reinforces the sidebar teachings every single time, without fail.

[–]nameyname3-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry for your loss. But don’t complain about who you attract. You go for young, easily manipulated women who value money and aesthetics, with no depth of character. That’s the type TRP brings to the fore. If you want someone real you have to treat them real.

[–]The1ndex-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was in a LTR when my mother died. This girl had always treated me respectfully, and was close with my mother. Immediately after my mother died, she started shit testing and treating me disrespectfully. I couldn’t even grieve until I dumped the girl. My weakness fucking drove her to attack me like a shark smelling a bleeding fish in the water.

Here is the kicker. My dad broke down a few times, and every time he did, my sister would leave the room, and distance herself from him.

This is 100% female nature. You can read story after story about this. The stronger you are, the closer the female will come. Weakness will drive them away.

There is something special about being a man — we are the warriors, and the protectors. This is why all of the equality and gender neutrality is a fucking joke.

Remember your dad. Forget the girl.

[–]mugatucrazypills-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

> emotions caused by the "breakup."

You mean the dumpage ?

That's why you're emotional. Next time dump her when she doesn't line up the bath towels. Tell her "She was warned", even though you never mentioned it.

It's okay to cry. Just not in front of women. Get a dog and go for a walk in the woods and cry there. Or in front of your guy friend, he might think you're a weak/homo inside, but he likely won't "dump" you as a person.

Half of blue pill culture is telling men to cry. So they can identify who to drop. Blue pill behavior is to tell men what to do then punish any men foolish or impressionable enough to listen and do as told.

And have a cookie, you'll feel better. I guarantee it.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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