So I've subscribed and read through the FDS posts a lot. I'm also subscribed to incel subreddits and I don't actually see any difference between them.
Both FDS and Incels always blame the opposite sex. You will never see a post where they take responcibility for their problems.
All the comments on both are very sexist and toxic and make blanket gender statements.
They both devide people into groups to dehumanize them and decide what makes a person have value. FDS uses HVM/LVM (High Value Male) except all the women have different opinions on what that is. Incels do the same with chads, stacies etc
Every single post auto assumes its the mans fault on FDS. None of them ever think maybe the woman did something wrong. They think all women are perfect angels. Incels do the same they automatically blame the woman for her choices.
Incels think they are entitled to sex as a man. FDS women think they are entitled to everything - sex, money, marriage, constant attention etc etc all because they are a woman.
When a post is made on FDS saying something positive about men the comments flame the OP and make sexist remarks. Incels do the same when a post is made about positive women.
Incels refuse to self improve. FDS women refuse to self improve, thats only for men apparently. Both just blame the opposite sex.
The funniest part? I bet the girls on FDS don't think they are sexists and they act the same as incels. They probably don't even think women can be sexist and only men can. Its something I've noticed online, men know when they are being sexist but they don't care. Where as women think its normal behaviour to say all men are trash and get confused when you say that's sexism.
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There is double standards in which happens on this site. Women are allowed to trashtalk about men without getting into trouble while men cannot do the same regarding women. Look at MGTOW and FDS. MGTOW is a quarantined sub while FDS is in public mode. How about that for "gender equality"?
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XD
Nah, you're sadly mistaken into thinking that being a misogynist doesn't get you laid. r/misogynyfetish and r/rapekink exists. How does Reddit allow those subs to exist while women want those 2 things to be taken seriously? It doesn't add up.
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Have you found murderers from FDS like Reddit found with MGTOW in all the years MGTOW has been active? Reddit did get alerted to the latest murderer from the manosphere from the news, after all.
You should really try to grow. It might help you look for things above that massive bias.
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As if you're not biased enough yourself.
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I am biased. I just don't lie about my bias like you.
My bias says I get on Reddit and see the same usernames calling women whores over in depression subs weeping about loneliness. My bias says continues watching the news where another man murdered a woman for rejecting him or moving on with her life.
Your bias says women refusing to date low value men is equivalent to the belief the subjugation and hatred of women from people who act on their hatred.
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Where is the bias in which I am doing? I am just exposing the double standards in which this site has.
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You are all cringe cases until another woman and child dies. And then another and another. That doesn't account for all the domestic violence and the madness found in the words of men who hate women.
FDS talks about events that happen and men who are honest will admit to it being bad. Men are so broken they will do what you did. Ignore the problem that make women avoid you and blame a tiny fringe.
You cannot handle a little talk amongst weak ugly fat old women on the internet but all of your soul goes into trolling and hatred of women in drives.
You are all hypocrites and weak ones at that.
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Except incels have better memes
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I used to think I was bad about this but it seems like y'all really let reddit be your entire construction of the world.
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By your analogy, then half of it must be bullshit too. I've spoken with enough drunks to know that. One of the most prominent female posters was just outed as a tranny. How many in all these gender subs are trolls?
The posters here represent a slim minority of reclusive, socially less-than-average people. Otherwise you don't end up debating shit like this in some tiny corner of Reddit. At the very least, if you insist all people are online (not true), they are not on Reddit.
I pay attention to how people treat me IRL. They treat me well. I accept that kindness. I am kind in return. It works. You've gotta swath 'red pill' truth in soft blue pill blankets.
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A ton of women on FDS have been burned hard by men and many abused. But they are in the wrong sub for that. In my view, they are going to have a very hard time dating until she somewhat resolves those issues.
Their Handbook has some good sections that a man can read and apply to "worse case scenarios" in dating. I did like the section on "what makes a high value male?" because it outlined traits a woman in the dating scene looks for. What bothers me most about the sub is that they do not take their own advice. Very few posts are actually about dating. You MIGHT get some discussion about it within the posts, but it's not at the forefront. There is a strong contingent that doesn't even want to date anymore and their hatred runs deep.
There are many tactics in their Handbook that will make you very sad. Some standouts for me: One was purposely withhold affection from the man in the beginning stages of a relationship. Another one was do not put the man you are dating's full name in your phone. Refer to them by a descriptor like their job-- this is assuming they are casually dating many men at the same time and a way to keep them straight. One was that the man needs to pay for all dates until you are exclusive- assumes again that the women is dating many men.
And the craziest of all-- if your man has not proposed to you, you are for all intents and purposes not "exclusive." To rope him into proposing sooner, you should casually date other men-- but as "encounters" and testing your love for your soon-to-be fiance. They do not include physical contact and you may only have an "encounter" with the man once. If you find yourself somehow attracted to him, its a red flag in your soon-to-be engagement. I'm not sure if it meant your soon-to-be fiance would know about it or not.
I went to another message board of various women discussing this. 90% of them among 10 pages thought it was a good idea.
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Women actually do behave that way when men they desire won't fuck them. The reason 'femcels' aren't as extreme is femcels are still having sex with ease.
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They're socially violent and aggressive and will try to destroy males they feel are unattractive or males that they desire but won't sleep with them. Women value sex more they're just also pickier and rope in the idea of sex with a relationship.
So women will hook up with a guy that they might conceivably have a relationship with.
Men will hook up with a woman that's simply not repulsive.
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Women are also monsters. Look at Amber Heard and the way feminists are basically ignoring the reality that she completely destroyed a man's life.
Women could be getting away with this everywhere and because nobody takes it seriously it's never counted.
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Women do all of those things tbh including molesting and raping young boys. It's common, just not taken seriously.
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Oh shit, how would you know? It's not taken seriously by anyone including women.
Men take it seriously, there's just fuckall they can really do about it since men can't very well hold all women accountable for some women being rapists
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I agree both are extremely toxic. However, FDS comes from a place where women have been in abusive relationships and are now setting boundaries. Incels have had little if any interaction with women and are like children crying because they want something they can’t have. I think both places suck, but FDS comes from a reality of women being repeatedly traumatized by abusive men. In fact, theyve simply decided to have higher standards which incels and TRP claim women never do. I suppose most here don’t believe in emotional abuse to begin with.
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lmfao
a paltry figure of 50 casulaties since 2014 is already massively eclipsed by ISIS alone, to say nothing of Al Qaeda, Taliban, Al Shabab, Boko Haram, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, etc. No comparison can possibly be made with the 10,000+ slaughtered in Nigeria by Boko Haram or ISIS's incalculable and large body count in Syria and Iraq. Even if we're only for some reason counting deaths in the west for whatever reason, attacks like Paris and Nice already far far outstrip 50 casualties alone. Same with San Bernadino and Orlando.
there is no incel mass movement with 10,000s of fighters like there are in the many dozens of islamist non state militias across the world. The very few attacks that have been carried out by incels were lone wolf attacks with no organizational backing, which again, killed almost no one at all. It is an absolutely microscopic number of them who have done it or been involved with anything violent.
more proof that social "science" is not empirical and therefore not scientific, and should be removed from universities as a complete waste of public funding.
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