What the fuck was this?

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May 13, 2020

Go on a date /w 9/10 chick

Go for a walk, talk, some kino etc. textbook stuff.

We sit down on a bench, start making out, touching...

Her phone rings, her friend calls.

Her:"Come on Ashley, if I was there with you and Matthew you can do the same for me"

Friend:*says something I cannot hear*

Her: "You will meet my friend now"

Me:"I havent invited her"

Her:"She will be here only for 10 minutes"

Her friend comes, third wheels HARD. We talk for a bit but im still making out with her friend

Friend:"Hey Hannah(the girl i was out with) I have to go home see ya"

Her:"Wait for me we will go together"

Date ends.

What the fuck do I take from this? Her friend came to do what lol? Fucking stare at us. EDIT- I AM 17 AND ON OUR 2nd DATE I GOT A HANDJOB

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Title What the fuck was this?
Author orma22
Upvotes 153
Comments 122
Date 13 May 2020 08:58 AM UTC (11 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/664835
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/givcu0/what_the_fuck_was_this/
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[–]spartan_samurai529 points530 points  (23 children) | Copy

She is not into you and her friend came to rescue her.

[–]Gtrplyr3838121 points122 points  (7 children) | Copy


[–]babybopp76 points77 points  (6 children) | Copy

Lol OP didn’t understand the Old Mother goose story. Friend calls and pretends there is an emergency or coded language. Comes and rescues her friend.

The counter to this... OP should have immediately told her, it was a good date. Thanks. Call me when we can meet up together. Exit.! Or called up another plate and made arrangements right there and then.

She probably left and met up with Chad Fuck Thunder

[–]vorgriff91 points92 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude, he's 17. At least he's reaching out to get more info from someone who may understand better. A touch of class and compassion says a. lot about a person...less about him, more about u.

[–]DOJITZ2DOJITZ18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

All I can imagine is how OP was awkwardly shoving his tongue down this chicks throat while she held back a stomach full of puke.


[–]falldogbombsthemoon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Bunch of fuckin' amateurs!"

[–]Snowboard1813 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup my first thought, I’ve had plates’ friends call and ask to make up some big story to get out of a date lol

[–]Alcatraz-122 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy

I don't think she is, since she's kissing him

[–]superbad4life50 points51 points  (9 children) | Copy

You'd be surprised. They will sometimes "go with it" even if they aren't feeling enjoying the date.

[–]Alcatraz-121 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

must be a different culture than mine then

[–]superbad4life16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy

must be a different culture than mine then


[–]knuglets25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

No... AWALT is used for ideas that all women will generally do the same things for: branch swinging, marrying up, etc.

You really think that all women will go with the kiss? lol

I agree with the other guy, girls will almost always deny the kiss if they are not into you.

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[–]knuglets1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Female emotion changes like the weather

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

facts. what girl goes with the kiss... and the fucking handjob as OP mentioned, when they're NOT into a guy.

this whole situation is weird af.

[–]spartan_samurai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As OP mentioned he is 17 and we don't know the whole story such as how old is the girl may be she is way younger than him.

Was that a tinder date or they know each other for a while ?

Girls go for the kiss but sometime they don't enjoy the experience and find some way to get out from the situation. It happens lot in night game or first tinder date.

[–]superbad4life-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

must be a different culture than mine then


[–]Alcatraz-12-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

no I meant they don't kiss you if they don't want to

[–]spartan_samurai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sometime they are not into it and afraid to reject the move. That's why she invited her friend to rescue her.

[–]ppanthero0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]jackandjill22-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]1HurricaneHugues313 points314 points  (8 children) | Copy

The call was just a routine checkup. They have a secret language set up for one to bail out the other if the date isn't going how she wants.

[–]BoogieWOOGIEdoo76 points77 points  (3 children) | Copy

Holy shit. Never thought of such a tactic. Thanks for the enlightenment bro.

[–]leotard-princess67 points68 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah you are still in control. Use the old switcheroo at this point and focus on her friend, mention how cool their friendship is and spike them for being such good besties. Easyyyyyy level one shit my little dudettes.

[–]jackandjill22-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Really?! Guys really are operating behind girls at this stuff.

[–]CryptoViceroy9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand how anyone couldn't know this. Even if you haven't witnessed it first hand - It's in so many movies.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

To me thats a good sign. It shows lack of dating experience.

When one becomes a true dating app thot going out with a guy is as regular as breakfast so they don’t make a deal about it.

[–]ENTPunisher5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Not really.

Source: My sister.

[–]L2diy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I literally lol’d

[–]2redhawkes5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea, cockblocking 101. This same post has been circulating around the sub almost every week. Reeks on high school inexperience.

[–]ay-fuh-q80 points81 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was a pre-planned call, either because she already knew she didn't want to be with you, or realized it once there.

[–]Domebeers75 points76 points  (17 children) | Copy

she literally hit the eject button brah

also, although I don't believe the '9/10' part, if you were indeed out with a 9, making out with her in a public park is such a bozo move. Really pretty girls, 9/10's, don't like to look owned out in public, just a tip.

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Really pretty girls, 9/10's, don't like to look owned out in public, just a tip.

They want to appear open to garner a ton of attention for validation while simultaneously appearing not interested, "please please no autographs I don't want to be bothered".

[–]2319Skew19 points20 points  (15 children) | Copy

It's cute that you think that.

If you are high SMV then it's not a problem. Women are insecure. Especially hot ones. Being with a very good looking man and making out with him in public is like a new Prada handbag.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I met a girl at a bar once for a drink. We talked and she told me all kinds of sexual things she'd done before, bathrooms, sex clubs, on the hood of a guys car, whatever. In the bar she was feeling me so I went in for a kiss and she blew me off. End of the night comes and we fucked in the parking lot outside the bar. Some girls are not into public displays of affection, it triggers their ASD hard, even if they're a massive slut.

This is something that was brought up on the RVF back in the day, I forget the name of the guy who came up with the thread but his date strategy was to always keep the kino light at the bar and then bounce back to his place. Overall it was pretty agreed upon that it's better to keep public displays limited until you can isolate and get her into a spot where you can actually fuck her. In public it makes you look thirsty and you run the risk of triggering her ASD. Even if some girls will do it, others will not.

[–]DrizzlyShrimp3616 points17 points  (12 children) | Copy


A 9/10 will not be interested in making out in a fucking park no matter the guy’s SMV, unless she’s 15 years old

[–]L2diy7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

He said he was 17, so meh it’s not that much out of the question. Highschool is a weird time

[–]LethalShade3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know if you're from the conservative south but I'm from eastern Canada and I have no doubt that hot girls here would make out with you in a park or other semi-public places.

[–]DrizzlyShrimp361 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm from eastern Canada as well my friend

[–]ppanthero0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Which she might be, since op is 17...

[–]DrizzlyShrimp360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I hadn’t seen the edit

[–]2319Skew1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

My last plate was a model and did some modelling for Vietnamese fashion magazines, cosplay and even did a motorcycle shoot. I've seen it done live and on numerous pua videos on YouTube. You can turn on the TV and see TMZ talk about all sorts of celebrities making out with top tier models and actresses etc.

So it happens. So unless your idea of a 9 is beyond conventional beauty or making out means sex (which still happens btw) then gotta break it to you that women can, do and will eat your face in public.

Oh and before you go all "only sluts" I'll stop you right here. The overwhelming amount of women are sluts for the right guy. The shy pastor's daughter that won't hold your hand in public is the same woman that will get wet when she shows you a mouth full of cum and you say "good girl".

[–]DrizzlyShrimp3615 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Bro my last plate was a model brooooo I swear to god. I held my frame and called her a good for nothing whore in front of her dad and she sucked my dick in front of him that same evening.

[–]whuttupfoo-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's only true for men of average status.


[–]DrizzlyShrimp363 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol yeah because Angelina Jolie kissing this guy for clout during an interview is the same as making out on a park bench. Anyways op is most likely of average status. Most men are.

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

uhh, new to girls or just never been with a hot one?

[–]MagnumBurrito25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy

Why are you making out with her in front of her friend? That's where you fucked up. PDA is beta

[–]RagingMayo0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What's PDA?

[–]MagnumBurrito7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Public displays of affection

[–]WillDansbury4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Public Display of Affection

[–]Bone_Coat15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

had a friend doing this to a girl he didn't like on a date, basically it means what everybody here is saying. an escape plan for a date that is not working.

[–]southflsup39 points40 points  (24 children) | Copy

You should of been able to tell by her body language and vibes that she was feeling uncomfortable. 90% of kino is being able to tell IOI’s through body language , the other 10% is acting on those IOI’s.

[–]idevastate37 points38 points  (11 children) | Copy

He had his tongue in her mouth, seems like she was comfortable.

[–]southflsup19 points20 points  (8 children) | Copy

I experienced something similar to OP in my blue pill days. Went out with this chick to the mall, made out , only for her to ghost me and call me a creep after. This woke me up and made me realize that I sucked at reading body language. Studying game and learning the signs of internet vs disinterest is one of the most important parts of game.

[–]idevastate1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

So about did you learn from that as far as body language, what was going on that you didn’t pick up on/why did she make out with you to begin with?

[–]southflsup14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy

You can tell a lot by the way her body is positioned and how she reacts when you touch her. I always like to escalate slowly , maybe a hand on the shoulder to see how she reacts to my touch. If she shys away, I give it some more time getting comfortable with each other before trying again. If she’s open to my touch , or reciprocates by touching me back , that’s always a good sign. Are her eyes wandering , or are they focused directly on you ? All these things matter. Once you’ve mastered this , you can tell if a girl is interested in you or not within a few seconds of interacting.

[–]idevastate0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Right I mean I know these things I’ve read up a lot on body language, I was wondering if you recall why she’d make out with you but be uncomfortable?

[–]Domebeers2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

She didn't want to look like a bitch on the date, so she made out with him. Basic shit.

[–]Ill_mumble_that0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

To us men, this behavior is retarded. But alas, the most mature teenager in the house, awalt.

[–]Domebeers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

women are retarded man I don't make the rules I just observe them

[–]southflsup3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looking back now , it’s painfully obvious, but I was so blue pulled and unaware that these things just flew over my head. For example , while conversating, her body would generally be pointed away from me, and her eyes would rarely meet with mine. When we would sit together , she would leave a bit of room between us , and other things I was probably too stupid to pick up on. Anything that isn’t complete interest , is disinterest. Don’t waste your time with a bitch who plays hot or cold.

[–]Casanova-Quinn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hard to know her reasoning, it could be not enough attraction, or OP's a bad kisser. Regardless, if a girl is into you, she should be touching you and kissing you back during a makeout.

[–]3chazthundergut0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So comfortable that she argues with her friend to come rescue her, and ends the date to leave with her friend?

She didnt act super comfortable. Tongue in mouth or no

[–]IceGolmm1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Honestly fuck that whole body language shit. If you're not mature enough to talk about what makes you uncomfortable you're not mature enough to be in any kind of a relationship.
Women are shitty communicators and instead of working on that men are supposed to adapt and learn to read body language.
I'd rather be alone than with someone that i have to play charlatan with every interaction (verbal or physical)

[–]southflsup2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sounds like your experiencing some redpill rage. People tend to forget that even as humans, we’re still animals. 90% of communication is non-verbal, so being illiterate when it comes to body language is a big disadvantage in life.

[–]IceGolmm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you watch any professional talking about the non verbal communication the first thing they'll tell you that is hard skill to master cause it depends on the person and the circumstances and backgrounds If it was that easy everyone would excel at poker the thing is women are moody, tend to change their minds and they're better liars than men they need to be held accountable for what they do or choose instead of telling men to get accustomed to it. it's because of this men are getting accused for rape " I said yes but i wasn't feeling it" " I didn't say no because I feared his reaction" To hell with all this BS you don't like something speak up it's that simple no need for all this excuses

[–]Alcatraz-120 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

you got something to read about reading ioi's ?

[–]southflsup4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reading about it will do minimal to help you. There is a lot of subconscious cues that unless you experience it for yourself , no YouTube video or reddit post will prepare you for that. You can watch a YouTube video by AMS or Stephiscold and it will help you know what signs to look for, but until you go out an experience it for yourself , you will not fully understand the concept.

[–]skykwakrz0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Do you know what types of IOI's you can find while texting?

[–]southflsup0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

None. Texting should never be in your playbook when it comes to gaming chicks. Keep texting strictly for logistics. Texting with women devalues your time and ruins your mystery.

[–]skykwakrz0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Can you elaborate on what you mean by logistics? What can be gained with texting?

[–]southflsup1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Logistics is simply where you will be having the date and at what time. Keep texting strictly for that. Excessive texting kills the hamster, and you want that alive and spinning. Women love feeling emotions, and you not texting her stirs up those emotions. She starts to wonder where you could be, and more importantly with who. She will value your time more and you will be seen as higher value. That’s why you should keep texting strictly to logistics.

[–]skykwakrz0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Okay, thanks for the elaboration. What are good ways to try to avoid casually talking to her when she's being clingy and needs attention?

[–]southflsup4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Women need attention , to them it’s worth what sex is to us. So it’s not a bad idea to sprinkle in a little 10 minute phone conversation every now and then , but key words, now and then. You’re a busy man , with important things to do. She should already know that if she’s in your rotation. All you gotta say is to “I’m busy right now , talk later.”

How many times have you been on the phone with a female when she hangs up and says she’ll call you back and you never get that call back? That’s exactly what you need to do to her. Flip the script , make her become your beta orbiter.

[–]skykwakrz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, thanks for the help!

[–]IXseed11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Her: "You will meet my friend now"

Me:"I havent invited her"

Her:"She will be here only for 10 minutes"

Me: Welp, it looks like your friend needs you. Lets do this some other time. *Leaves.

That's what you should of done.

[–]tacosattack2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I would have backed off, charmed the friend a bit, then left. Just have fun with it.

[–]Soaliveinthe2151 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah bro he was making out with this chick. I would 100 percent just have started chatting up and charming to friend either she'd get jealous or the friend might like you and tell her she should bang you or threesome. And even if shes there to ckockblock you, you still look good

[–]bradyo233 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy

Making out and trying to escalate on a park bench? You’re either homeless or 13. No wonder she got her mate to come bail her out.

[–]orma22[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy


[–]MardGeer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's ok man, keep hitting on girls and pay attention. Ask questions and always hit the gym.

[–]Xivious479 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol bro she invited her friend over to cockblock you.

Sorry to say my guy, but doesnt seem she that into you

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (7 children) | Copy

Your game sucks, next time seduce the mother hen (her friend), learn from your lesson, good luck.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy

And trying to escalate / make out / continue the date with her in front of her friend is autism tier social move

Once the friend joins, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing, the social situation changes. Spend more time on her friend than her

[–]ENTPunisher7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's pretty funny though you gotta admit

Power moves ONLY

[–]skyrunner224 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

fucking level 1 shit. Think this is the biggest disservice around here is true practice of game.

[–]gatormanz_0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

sorry rookie here, may I ask why

[–]Domebeers12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

jealousy play, for one. Women will compete for attention.

[–]idevastate6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

It honestly works, girl I was on a date with had her best guy friend from childhood show up (weird af situation, we were at a bar next to the cafe he got off work at and she had just come back from a semester abroad, first weekend seeing her friends whatever), I was cool with the dude and he actually saw his way out to let us be alone a bit later then we fucked.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The other comment said it better than I will.

[–]TheTastelessBatman8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lift more bruh. Haha I kid I kid. It was a bail out call. I have one too.

[–]i-reddit-ck2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Jealousy. That’s your best tool in these situations. Had a girl at this party, she was playing cold. So I sat next to her best friend, started doing kino, she saw my moves and immediately got jealous and gave me the stares. She wanted an explanation so I took her to the bathroom and fucked her brains out.

[–]Wobblewobblegobble0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I honor your life style

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol at making out in front of her friend. Are you 18?

And girls do this shit all the time. Don’t read too much into it, and it definitely isn’t a sign things didn’t go poorly. Just because you didn’t fuck her doesnt mean she doesn’t want you to fuck her

This just gives her and her friend a chance to girly gossip about you.

[–]mrmaika106 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

If girls are doing this all the time to you, I got news for ya buddy

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls that come back and fuck later?

Never had a date end this way and it turn out badly. Have had girls do something random like invite a friend, call family member, etc. sometimes spontaneous shit happens have to adapt

[–]mrrooftops2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When you get older you'll realise she was a 7 at best. You just fetishize average at school because you're weaponized thirsty

[–]idevastate4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've had a girl do this by having a friend show up, but I was cool with the guy friend who then actually saw his way out to leave us aloneand then she went to my place to bang. Next time we saw each other same friend called for her to go to some going away party after we banged, who knows if the party was even real. Anyway, chicks do this shit.

[–]Taipoe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She wasnt interested anymore so she called her friend up to get her

[–]tacosattack1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of hate for the park bench in this thread. The girls I've been with love sneaking around the park after dark. Good opportunity to make them feel safe doing something they would never be brave enough to do without you there, and brings out their playful side at the same time.

[–]mtl_dood1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly, at 17 years old, I don't think red pill even works for most dudes. At this age, either you have it or don't. And women are fucking flaky, so at 17, they are all really wack. At 17, unless you are the head of the basketball or football team you can't red pill properly. Fuck around, have fun. Learn the ropes. In a few years, once you have reached adulthood, apply the knowledge.

[–]1rugged791 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Second this.

Women are loopy in the head around that age and up until they graduate college OR they experience certain things in life.

Things like real adversity or being a young working professional at a job they actually care about, paying rent and bills etc.

Before women experience those things, or something similar, a chick could be 27, but still essentially a teenager.

[–]mrmaika100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can’t tell if you’re 15 or just have no game. All the other comments have addressed it, but learn to read the room.

[–]babybopp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And swore her friend to secrecy

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Young dumb chics man. She pulled her out , guys do this too. It's the equivalent of you coming to a date, meeting that heavy set cat fish and pretending your grandmas in the hospital if she sees you. Dont sweat it.

[–]whatswronglisa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let me do you one better, bro. She didn't only give you a soft no, she could probably be with another guy right after that and he could be double teaming her and her friend in the back of his car.

Get your game straight. Read more TRP and consider this as a hard lesson to be learned, dude. Attitudes like this means you have a lack of options and a lack of experience. A lack of options makes you want to chase the next big tiddied girl you finger bang and any chick becomes "the one". If you had a lot of options, you'd have brushed this off quickly, acted friendly to them and would have another girl on stand-by as soon as they leave. A lack of options also makes you desperate and act irrationally because you think that there's a scarcity to the quality of the girls you meet. Inadvertently, it also shows you don't value yourself enough to even let yourself get to this point that you're fuming over a girl.

Get these terminologies in your head. Read the side-bar.
1. Mental Point of Origin
2. Oneitis
3. Plates

You could have been Chad who she gave a hand-job to. But you could have also been Chad who banged her and her friend at the back of his car. Do the work, my man.

[–]DevilMayCry0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lurk more.

[–]DSXEvolucion0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I honestly think that she was in to you, but not that much. So she didn’t want to tell you with exact words “hey, I like you but not so much that I will have sex with you” so she just made out with you and found an excuse to get out of the situation so it wouldn’t escalate to sex. That or she was shit testing you hard as fuck to see how you would react but I highly doubt that second idea...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i'm tempted to agree with everyone that she pulled the classic "friend doing a check up" move to have an excuse to leave. This is a very common thing. most girls will have their friends text them or call them or some shit on a date so she has a way to leave if the guy is a creep.

but it's fuckin weird that she was making out with you and gave you a handjob too. like wtf. i don't know many girls who make out with and give handjobs to guys that are creeping them out.

so in conclusion.... i'd say it's worth texting her again some time to see if she wants to see you. If she isn't then yes, she's a weird gal.

[–]HumbleTrees0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lol. Just my god lol. Most obvious eject.

[–]WayneNolting0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well, I'm almost 40. Life doesn't get any less awkward, you just get better at dealing with it. Don't reward bad behavior, withdraw.

[–]TurnDownForWhat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

On our second date I got a fucking shot at her front butt!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't call her again. Only go out with her again if it's her idea.

[–]Tambamwham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

First off she’s not a 9. If she was a 9 she’d be in the runway. Second, she’s not into you and you should let her go.

[–]send_it_for_the_boys0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No coincidence had to be staged. Me and my boys do shit like this for each other.

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[–]orma22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What do you mean?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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