[Mod] New Reddit X-Link Policy - No More of that

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September 10, 2013

Recently there was some drama, I'm not going to talk about it because drama's stupid and it doesn't matter. Needless to say, we've always known we've got a target on our back.

At the end of the day, people believe in free speech, so long as it agrees with them.

Because of this, many people would like to see us disappear. One such way to do this is to claim we are brigading threads.

The fact that I am taking a few minutes out of my day to talk about brigading with fake internet points on a fucking website is god damned ridiculous. But here we are.

It's obvious to me there is no simple rule we can put into place that eliminates this issue, especially when you consider that people who want us gone can just as easily subscribe here, follow our links, and brigade threads. False flags they're called, and there's no way to eliminate them.

So we're making a small change, and I think it's one that will also improve content:

No more crosslinking anything from reddit at all.

Not in submissions. Not in comments.

If you want to post a conversation or post between members on reddit you must take a screenshot, and edit it for the following requirements:

  • No URL in picture or post
  • Subreddit name must not be present in the picture or in the post.
  • Must be self-post with analysis.

On the analysis: Full paragraphs please. Explain the effects at play, why these people are acting the way they are, and possible suggestions. No more low-hanging "look this guy is a moron" posts. Constructive posts only. Everything else will be deleted without warning.

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Title [Mod] New Reddit X-Link Policy - No More of that
Author redpillschool
Upvotes 53
Comments 140
Date 10 September 2013 03:52 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/6649
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1m405k/mod_new_reddit_xlink_policy_no_more_of_that/
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[–]KingNick9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Your rights end where my feelings begin."

  • SRS

[–]RedPillScare-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy


Not that the Reddit overlords will heed a conservative quote like that.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (52 children) | Copy

No offense, but this is ridiculous. There are tons of subs that actually brigade without facing consequences, I don't see why we're slinking off with our tail between our legs after being merely accused.

Do you know what will happen next? If more than five of us show up anywhere (increasingly likely, btw, given the way this sub is growing), we will be accused of brigading with some off-reddit subsite, and won't be able to prove them wrong. They will say "Oh but your mods admitted you guys can't help yourself and you brigade, so we know it's true."

This is lame.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 24 points25 points  (49 children) | Copy

The admin have made it incredibly clear that they have no intention of actually assisting us with enforcing rules, or.. even explaining the exact rules.

[–]puck_mar1n7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Given that multiple subs brigade and go unpunished it's pretty clear that the admins use "brigading" as a way to control subs they don't like. They did it with /r/niggers, /r/srssucks, /r/mensrights, and now with /r/theredpill.

If the admins were actually concerned with brigading they would institute a site wide rule like the one that you've just put in place here but they don't so they clearly are only interested in brigades when it suits their purposes to be interested in them.

[–]BustaHymes2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

r/MyRedditingCareer only had about 3 active posters, but we got banned for "brigading" (lol), but really it was because the whole sub was basically "spotlight on reddit's poz"

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

That's a real shame, but do you really think they'll punish the subreddit if we make it very clear we do not support brigading?

I find it very useful for browsing reddit, knowing that I have a place where I can discuss a warped post and the bizarre blue pill advice/comments it receives.

Would it be possible to post text from a post without linking, so that there is no way to find the post, but we can still discuss it?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Would it be possible to post text from a post without linking, so that there is no way to find the post, but we can still discuss it?

Yeah that's fine. Just no links.

That's a real shame, but do you really think they'll punish the subreddit if we make it very clear we do not support brigading?

I think that they will punish the many for crimes of the few.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't doubt it.

And good to know about the text posts. Thank you.

[–]YessingtoHard1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I still think some will be able to find the posts, simply by visiting /r/srs or askwoman and looking at the top posts for the day

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy

So we're letting them thought police us into submission?

I thought better of this sub.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 8 points9 points  (13 children) | Copy

We are on reddit.com and subject to their rules.

[–]throwaway-o11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

The "rules" they don't enforce on the officially sanctioned special interest groups?

Some subreddits sure are more equal than the others.

[–]FreedomOptional3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Did you ask them why SRS is not banned for this? I had a post awhile ago, it was put on SRS and SRS mods have a bot that tracks how many downvotes the post received after it being posted on SRS and then they encourages people to downvote more...

[–]RedPillScare3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy


The reddit admins do not enforce the rules equally. If you match their sociopolitical views, you are exempt from the rules to an extent.

TRP is antithetical to their views, and therefore subject to undocumented rules.

There is no rational discussion. There are feelings, which cannot be debated.

This is like letting your woman make the rules.

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[–]SwordfshII6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eat a dick. Every post in TBP is an x-post that is brigaded as are SRS posts.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (22 children) | Copy

It's good you used an alt. Man up and say it with conviction. What's your real account?

[–]SwordfshII2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh look we are being brigaded -_-

[–]Geofferey3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was wondering how TRP's own post in our own subreddit was so damn low. Even now... tsk tsk tsk...

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[–]dirtybrds-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

no1currrr SRS cunt hole.

[–]dirtybrds1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also, you should be grateful that I told you the real reason why r_niggers was banned from Reddit.

lol eveyrone already knows the reason you dumb cunt.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy

I linked threads after debates took place that I thought would be insightful for the community. You've got a crusade, but you're off all half cocked.

I don't really need your real account name. I'll spot you from a mile away with your attitude.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

I take constructive criticism. You, however, have jumped to conclusions and left yourself out to dry. The only thing childish here is your shoot first ask questions later mentality. That, I do not like.

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[–]dirtybrds-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

SRS brigades every day you cunt bag.

[–]dirtybrds-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're being really childish if you would ban a person who simply disagrees with you on one issue.

lol says the cunt bag who posts in the the sub with the most ban happy moderators.

[–]nSaneMadness-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your criticism means nothing when you choose to cower behind a throwaway. Man up or shut up.

[–]SwordfshII-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop brigading

[–]dirtybrds3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

^ SRS cunt telling redpillers here why it's wrong to vote brigade


[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

SRS is all about brigading....

Nobody stops them.

[–]NewToRedPill3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy


This policy actually gives them more ammo to get rid of us and will have the opposite effect. It looks like an admission of guilt. It looks like we're admitting that we were brigading when we weren't (or, at least, we were MUCH less than any of the "admin friendly" subs that do the same goddamn thing). This is not a smart move.

[–]MSoftHarem10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Christ on a cracker.

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[–]MSoftHarem10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Frustrating. As much as I enjoy Reddit as a platform I fucking despise the leadership and most of the users.

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[–]MSoftHarem1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We have contingencies if it ever gets real bad, and I do not believe this is us jumping the shark.

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Our ever attentive fan club uses: http://www.redditlog.com/

As seen here: http://www.redditlog.com/snapshot/19151/24566

I can mod it to remove usernames and host it if that is a blocker.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Is the source open?

[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]soapjackal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That was some weak hating.

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[–]throwaway-o11 points12 points  (26 children) | Copy

Exactly. This "we are gonna obey to appease" idea... never works. When they hate you, they hate you. I do not condone /r/niggers by the way.

[–]CODYsaurusREX3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Someone should set a rendezvous site in case of eviction. Just tactically speaking.

[–]MSoftHarem7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Second banner down on the sidebar.

[–]MSoftHarem3 points4 points  (23 children) | Copy

None of us condone /r/niggers, but as long as our sand castle is in Reddit's sand box we either play by the rules or build our own. Yes, the latter part is an option we have, and will continue to look into if the situation continues to escalate.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Honestly, install some forum software on the puerarchy.com server. You can use some free software or pay for something like vBulletin. You'd then be able to monetize TRP with ads, you could easily have a sidebar, you could easily setup user groups for admins/mods/endorsed people. You could go between open to everyone and invitation only based on how many feminazis try to troll. You'd be able to connect to all trpers via email, you'd be able to backup your database in case your hosting service ever fucks with you. The site may be DDOSed by manginas who agree with SRS types, but TRP is strong, you'd get enough donations and shit to afford a decent server. You could get a karma mod installed too to upvote/downvote posts. It would require work, but you'd have sovereignty. I honestly think this should be done, people love the reddit platform but with al the BS this sub gets it's a matter of when, not IF, kinda like Syria right now.

[–]MSoftHarem7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

We've talked about this and other options, but staying on Reddit does have its benefits. We'll ride out this wave of bullshit and see what happens in the upcoming months.

[–]3trplurker2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok long time lurker here. Absolutely hate the steaming pile of shit that is reddit, this is literally the only sub I visit. If there weren't links posted in threads I would never even see other subs in this hellhole.

Anyhow I'm a Systems Engineer and if the mods need any assistance in setting up a solution let me know. I can provide financial & technical assistance as needed.

Also want to thank this sub, without it I would not be nearly as successful as I am today. This place is pure fucking gold and gave me the tools to turn large parts of my life around.

Ohh and a shout out to the contributor from Korea.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

In case someone makes this, I ask that someone send me a pm so I can join.

[–]TRP_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a perfect idea, we can also run on both. No reason why we can only have one or the other at this point

[–]throwaway-o6 points7 points  (17 children) | Copy

None of us condone /r/niggers, but as long as our sand castle is in Reddit's sand box

So why not move the castle out of this sandbox, where some privileged people get to throw sand in others' eyes, but we aren't allowed to respond?

You know they gonna boot your ass off Reddit anytime. Your ideas are not tolerated here. Be prepared.

Also, I think we, your subscribers, deserve to know what the hell drama and threats you are acting upon.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

This. We can congregate elsewhere. The reddit admins can suck it.

[–]MSoftHarem4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

It is no small task to build and moderate our own message boards. Not to mention how much it would fragment the community. We don't want to leave, but if we are forced to, we will.

[–]throwaway-o5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

We'd deploy our own Reddit codebase, but with a focus on private / subscription-only / apply-first creation of subreddits (we don't want large numbers of redditors, we want a platform for our ideas that are underrepresented here). I can do that. It's not hard unless you demand five nines reliability.

[–]anra2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

do it. do it now.

[–]Immuchtooawesome1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I honestly think we should.

Then we could crosspost whatever the hell we want, whenever we want.

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[–]someotherdudeagain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What do you expect from a company based in fucking downtown san francisco?

If we take all of right-wing reddit with us, we could have decent traffic.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

We have set up puerarchy.com as an offsite meetup if necessary.

[–]throwaway-o0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

That is a fucking awesome name. Who came up with it?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

I'm not sure who used it first, but I saw it first in use by Ian Ironwood.

I write about it here: http://puerarchy.com/2013/07/09/wearethepuerarchy/

And Ian did a guest post here : http://puerarchy.com/2013/07/16/ironwood-speaks-welcome-to-the-puerarchy-this-is-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you/

[–]Immuchtooawesome-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Any chance we can implement a forum of some sort? Just in case we do get the boot here?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, I'm looking into it. Unofficially we've already had a copy of the reddit code working, but modifying it for our uses were too time consuming.

I'm looking into these, http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1m405k/mod_new_reddit_xlink_policy_no_more_of_that/cc5tipb

[–]anra-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

why not put it up w/o modifications? a simple copy of this w/o reddit mods would be great.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

They also seem to think my access to reddit should be limited to TRP. Newsflash: I've been using reddit for YEARS. I'm not going to suddenly limit myself because I've subscribed here.

Apparently, any opposing perspectives == brigading. Why is this such a concern for them? Because letting people have ideas outside of their narrow range of thought-policed brain functions is dangerous. People might start communicating in ways that don't placate their delicate sensibilities.

If you have to silence your critics, that's not "moderation".

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

WTF... I say we should give a damn when the reddit admins start giving a fuck about all the brigading the SRS idiots are doing in this sub.

Sure the np setup wasnt the greatest I mean all you needed to do was delete np. and replace it with www. and you could participate but I like most people I imagine were using the honor system and not doing such. If I felt something very important to say I'd send it as a message to the individual in question rather than posting on replies.

The only exception I had was MensRights (which I would take as not hostile to TRP) which I was also subscribed to and the np link even allows participation for some reason.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

A smart guy once told me that true power lies with the one who can silence you.

[–]throwaway-o5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. To know who rules you, just find out whom you can't criticize.

[–]BrussellRand7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

If we make an alternate board on another website we'd have some leverage. When /new/ was deleted on 4chan the diaspora fled to other chans and moot realized he was losing traffic and when they did post on 4chan they were shitting up other subs. The loss would be two-fold on reddit because not only would they lose traffic, but if we organized from another website there would be no disinsentive to brigading. If their real concern is brigading then they'd want to keep us contained here rather than organized elsewhere.

Just my $.02

If someone could make a rebbit.com or something where all the banned subs could reorganize it could form a real balance against the corrupt modding policy here.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

On it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvacuu0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If someone could make a rebbit.com or something where all the banned subs could reorganize it could form a real balance against the corrupt modding policy here.

There's already an effort underway:


[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does username also need to be edited out? or just subreddit name?

[–]MustNotFfff4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is something better than the chrome extension you linked - Greenshot (http://getgreenshot.org/). Using that app, you just press PrintScreen, select the target area and it will auto-upload to IMGUR, if you so choose. No drag 'n drop from desktop necessary.

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[–]kingssman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ive been banned from askwomen and I havent even visited the sub. No big deal on my end.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Silenced by people who aren't even worth any of our attention.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

You realize that either way we lose, right? Either they, and I assume you are talking about the fempire, get rid of our sub or they bully us into this self-imposed exile where we separate ourselves from the rest of the reddit community.

I, for one, would rather have the fight. As in, let them try to get our sub banned/removed. At least then we would go out as alphas. I mean shit, they say whatever the fuck they want.

This is just towing the line, seems very beta.

Then again, i'm not a mod. Is just my opinion.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

seems very beta.

It's retarded to try to classify all actions as beta/alpha, especially considering the context.

We would like to keep the sub, so we take diplomatic steps to help this.

We are not courting the reddit admins, there's is no application of alpha/beta here. This sub is discussion about sex, not a means to it.

[–]SwordfshII3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy

Wow sooo I'll just wait for SRS, TBP and all those to get the crosshairs for the same offenses

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[–]SwordfshII1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Who said you could come out of the kitchen?

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[–]SwordfshII0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Your a man? Your still in college child. Probably a little pansy ass too based on your pathetic attempt to intimidate

Seems like you are the one whining about people pointing out the obvious. But a "man" wouldn't do that!?!?

[–]3MinuteHero0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Wrong again, bud. A lot, actually. Here are the ways you are wrong:

1.) I am not in college. I am in medical school. And I am an older med student than average too.

2.) I was not trying to intimidate you. You should not have felt intimidated.

3.) I am not whining. I am telling you to shut the fuck up. I am correcting your behavior because you are supposedly on the same team as me and you make us look bad.

4.) *You're, x 2

[–]SwordfshII0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yep still a child. Still quite the "man." Still a whiny idiot. Someday you will learn child, someday you will learn.

[–]3MinuteHero0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

FYI, everyone, and I do mean everyone, recognizes the way you speak as immature. If you need to feel like you've won this exchange -or feel like to need to "win" exchanges- then Godspeed and I hope TRP can teach you something about how to be better. In the meanwhile, stay the fuck out of the way and keep your mouth shut.

[–]SwordfshII0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You are such a tough "manly" child. I can't help but swoon over your alphaness.

Oh no that is just you being a dick as usual. Someday child you will learn

[–]Abiogeneralization9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy

This is a huge mistake. It provides no guarantee that TRP won't be shut down. But mainly, it eliminates many users' (myself included) very favorite posts.

Yes, links to blogs from manly, bodybuilding club owners is nice. But even more important for getting people unplugged are the blue pill examples. Seeing an obvious beta ask beg reddit for relationship advice and receiving the same useless shit I did growing up was eye-opening. I didn't realize how true TRP's analysis of women's motivations until I heard it from the horses mouth in posts about craving the alpha's dick and the beta's wallet.

There is no better place to observe the sad state of gender relations than reddit. I realize that you won't change anything based on our opinions. I have NEVER seen a sub enact a restrictive rule and then rescind it later, no matter the outcry.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You're welcome to post this content, just not directly link it.

You won't miss a thing.

[–]Abiogeneralization2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best part is the sea of blue pill comments being upvoted and red pill truth being downvoted by bitter people.

[–]3MinuteHero0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

You're supposed to find beta examples from your own past experiences and from the people you see in real life. Field reports are 10 times more effective in this way and offer a wider sample than just this website. If you are interested in truth, don't use one site full of message boards because there's an inherent selection bias. And, seriously, you know this site has a feminist bias. What good does it do you to point that out? Would you claim the world hates men based on what you saw at a feminist convention too? It makes no sense.

If all you want to do is make fun of people, /r/cringe is that way --->

[–]Abiogeneralization-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I understand your position but still disagree.

Not all of us can summon up perfect blue pill memories as examples and immediately analyze them through a red pill lens. Repetition is important.

TRP will now only offer the carrot, when it used to also provide the stick.

[–]3MinuteHero0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ha, second time in two days I've heard the carrot and stick idiom. Never heard it before in my life.

Anyway, no I don't think we're going to be missing the stick. All it takes it a simple field report and people can let us know what they think we did wrong.

I like TRP because I don't need to use soft language here and I don't expect others to with me. I don't want to hear, "Here's what I think you could have done better," office-politic style bullshit. I want to hear, "That was a bad move," or "Wow, you really shit the bed there." We should be addressing each other, not looking at what others are doing.

[–]delta_hedge1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy


feel free to browse through their crosslinks, and note how many are "np".

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the bloggers I read got fed up with reddit and started his own version using Hotaru CMS:


An example of a site made with it similar to this one:


Are people coming on here an brigading? If so, complain to the admins and demand that they be punished. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[–]__var0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is it possible to allow links within this subreddit? (Links to comments and submissions within r/TheRedPill)

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Working on fixing that.

[–]iseeyou13120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is there a way to make it so that it links from this sub are still allowed?

[–]EmmanuelGoldsteinROK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great news. The crosslinks to other Reddit threads were always terrible anyway, consisting of losers saying "OMG girl cheats on her boyfriend with three dudes, proof of the red pill!!!"

Almost all content exclusive to Reddit outside this forum is dogshit. This is no loss.

[–]ekjohnson9-3 points-2 points  (10 children) | Copy

As much as it pains me to appease to the leftoids and whiners, this is preferable to being censored or eroding the core of the sub.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

I think I'd rather the sub get banned than cave to them. Reasoning with people who hate you never works. They see it as a war, even if you don't. To them, this will be considered a victory; and they'd like to get more victories until we're gone or our discussion becomes politically correct and thought-controlled. That is the trajectory.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

We will never modify the type of content here. This was an important rule to enact to remove any doubt that we are breaking the TOS.

The idea of "vote manipulation" is so broad they could apply it to anything. But ultimately, it is their site and their choice. So we follow their rules.

That doesn't mean we'll change our content or message when it's not PC enough.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, I understand that clearly. The problem is I don't think that's really what they care about. They don't give a shit about vote manipulation; it's what they do regularly. They'll stir up drama and false flags until they achieve their larger objective; and if the admins are coddling them, then this won't amount to much.

Granted, I don't know the full story, but it's obvious that the animosity with which they approach those who engage in communication outside of their narrow range is not going to be abated by this measure.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

Ultimately, the decision to stop linking altogether was mine, though some of the moderation team here agreed with me (not unanimously).

The drama was related to the admin stepping in, taking action, and reprimanding us for not properly controlling the situation.

Upon hearing this, I explained how we literally have zero control over what took place, and have no actual features as moderators to enforce their rules. Furthermore, I asked what the rules actually were, since these aren't "theredpill" members, they're reddit members, and ultimately can post and vote anywhere anyway.

The admin went silent. This is the second time I've asked for clarification and/or help, and they've blown me off wholesale.

Yes, they're looking for reasons to can us anyway. But they tend to do so by stretching their rule book. It is my opinion that we should remove all doubt entirely. If somebody is voting on a thread somewhere, it is on their own volition and without even the vaguest whiff of endorsement from theredpill.

They may still remove us, and it is not my intention to further erode our sub in the mean time, but I'm forcing their hand. If they do so, they will have to admit it's because they don't like us, not because we broke rules.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I agree, and your assessment is logical. The part that grinds my gears is that we're dealing with the irrational and the illogical. I would like to see TRP stay, as it's been incredibly beneficial to myself and numerous men, but that target on our back seems like it also has a countdown timer going too.

Who the fuck has time for "subreddit drama". Jesus. Can't they concern themselves with building their own body of knowledge and discussion.

We are dealing with children.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Makes me smile when I think about it. Here's a group of idiots that hate reddit, yet spend far more time on it per day than I do.

[–]throwaway-o5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

We will never modify the type of content here.

You just did with the new policy, which creates significant barriers to discussing the content we were discussing before.

This was an important rule to enact to remove any doubt that we are breaking the TOS.

Thus limiting the content to that which requires minimal effort, as opposed to screenshotting, censoring, uploading, et cetera.

The idea of "vote manipulation" is so broad they could apply it to anything. But ultimately, it is their site and their choice. So we follow their rules.

The idea of "vote manipulation" is a bludgeon they just used to get you to acquiesce to their stupid "rules".

Do you want me to set a private Reddit up for this community? Then we can link to our heart's content.

That doesn't mean we'll change our content or message when it's not PC enough.

Except your policy will substantially change the content.

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[–]throwaway-o3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Attention redpillers: the sockpuppet I am replying to is part of the same consortium of paid brigadiers that forced this policy change.

Watch the downvotes here, cos you are about to be brigaded.

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You used the word Masculinity! That's misogynist!

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Man, this is that one thing that makes Reddit so ridiculously gay. Like two cocks in one ass gay. I can't stand how self righteous certain types of people can be.

For fuck's sake, get over yourself and your opinions. Live and let live. It's just text, metadata, and a display mechanism. Nobody has yanked any fingernails out of place.

[–]puck_mar1n-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'll say the same thing here that I said in /r/srssucks when the admins forced them to implement a similar policy:

I'd rather see a sub go down fighting than slowly be neutered by more and more restrictive rules.

The quality of submissions to /r/srssucks went down dramatically when they implemented similar rules and I'd hate to see that happen here. I'd rather us go out in a blaze of glory while giving the admins and SRS the finger than be cowed into submission.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Submit what you want to see.

[–]puck_mar1n-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Very true.

I might also suggest looking at any meta links in the /r/thebluepill for evidence of brigading. What's good for the goose is good for the gander...

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They brigade. It's not new.

[–]amatorfati-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't know that much about forum moderation, the reddit overlords, or much of the relevant history here. But I do know a fair bit about diplomacy because I'm a nerd who reads old books for fun. So, fuck it, I have some thoughts that I'll share.

Appeasement isn't going to work. Let me be clear: negotiation can work, but appeasement is not negotiation. Negotiation would mean discussing unambiguous terms. The moderators of this subreddit would have to be told precisely what conditions need to be satisfied, and in return we get a guarantee that this subreddit will not be punished in any way as long as those conditions remain satisfied. I'm a fan of intelligent diplomacy, and since our enemies clearly have the upper hand here we desperately need to negotiate. But this is unfortunately not the situation we find ourselves in.

No such negotiation happened or is happening presently. Instead, this present policy is giving concessions without securing anything at all in return, all appeasement and no peace. The appeasement strategy isn't going to work. The mods can try to enforce this all they want, it won't make a difference. Enforcement of an unwritten rule when a group distinct from the enforcers are the ones to judge whether or not the rule has been broken, especially when that group is known to despise the enforcers, is very obviously a fool's quest. One way or another, the rule will be broken. Either actual members of this community are going to break the informal rule, intentionally as resistance or unintentionally because of how ambiguous it is. Or false flag attacks will occur and we will be blamed for it anyway, because the standard of evidence is so poor. No matter what policies this subreddit officially adopts, the rule is built in order to be broken. It is an impossible task that is presently being pursued, and it will fail.

You cannot give concessions to a bully who will not discuss peace terms and expect appeasement to work in your favor. If anything, this only proves to them that TRP can successfully be intimidated into a corner without offering anything in return. Why would they give up a winning strategy when it costs them nothing?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not a concession. It's a policy that lessens liability.

[–]kingssman-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's retarded how this place is getting targeted, meanwhile over at SRS, a sub dedicated to shaming, isnt even required to post non participation links.

perhaps this just proves "feminist double standards"

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I appreciate that the mods are putting in time to handle this horseshit. I think I would go into a rage-fueled cursing binge if I were confronted with this hypocrisy.

[–]Meterus-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think I found out/figured out what brigading is.

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