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LTR doesn't want to give blowjobs, did I do the right thing?

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May 21, 2020

LTR doesn't want to give blowjobs and hates the taste and smell of cum so she always gags. Last time midblowjob she said she was done, because she "didn't feel like it". So I opened my laptop and started working on school projects. She then tried to get my attention and asked alot of questions about school and started to touch me blablabla. So I said I had important things to do. After dinner I told her to leave and now I have soft/hard (?) nexted her and got a plate (first one) to fuck this weekend.

Did I overreact? She is an amazing girlfriend, but what the fuck kind of girlfriend doesn't want to give blowjobs?

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Title LTR doesn't want to give blowjobs, did I do the right thing?
Author Human_Extreme
Upvotes 81
Comments 108
Date 21 May 2020 07:17 AM UTC (9 months ago)
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[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev100 points101 points  (41 children) | Copy

Out of curiosity, how long did you date her before you elevated her to LTR? I ask because you either overlooked her anti-blowjob views or she hid them from you until you LTR'd her and then decided to change the deal.

Anyway, while IME, all women are happy knob gobblers, evidently, some are not (or at least rumors have reached me of this). I'm not sure how long she put in the effort to try and please you, but you cannot negotiate attraction - which I suspect will create other problems in your relationship.

So where does that leave you? What it comes down to is: Is not getting blown a deal-breaker for you? If so then move on because:

The Anna Karenina Principle and the Problem of Bad Relationships

-Sometimes, Even Good Fits Are Bad Fits.

[–]Human_Extreme[S] 15 points16 points  (40 children) | Copy

Well at first I didn't thought it to be a problem, because I was getting pussy for the first time. But since I've been swallowing the Red Pill, I want the best and more than that. She is excellent wifey material on all grounds, but this might indeed be a deal breaker for me.

Thanks for your advice man, doing the Lord's work!

[–]Leonardslemons54 points55 points  (19 children) | Copy

Well first of all, she either is, or isn’t wifey material. There isn’t a middle ground. So, making her an LTR was your first mistake.

Secondly, despite your mistake, you still gave this woman your commitment. So, the appropriate thing to do is to back away from your commitment before breaking the commitment. In other words, If this is a deal breaker for you. You need to break up with her, or at least have a conversation about it.

Thirdly, if your reaction is to cheat on an LTR because she isn’t giving you what you want. I can probably assume that it’s not about the sex. It’s about the power that comes with making such a choice.

Now, I’m not going to sit here and speak about morals and why you shouldn’t do things, but you should be aware, that your actions could have consequences in meaningful ways. Generally speaking, when you are acting in a state of emotions, you don’t see the full picture. Whether you admit it or not, this is an emotional reaction.

You need to ask yourself, why is it that you feel this way over this certain thing? What is it that you are trying to prove to yourself? and does it need to be proven?

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

You need to break up with her, or at least have a conversation about it.

You can't negotiate attraction. OP should just breakup or demote her to plate. And there's no chick that won't swallow dick. NONE. If not for you then for another guy. OP just isn't that guy.

[–]robot3000_015 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]alimg20200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lesbians. Lesbians don’t swallow dick.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And there's no chick that won't swallow dick. NONE. If not for you then for another guy. OP just isn't that guy.


[–]Human_Extreme[S] 13 points14 points  (14 children) | Copy

Great analysis man, I really appreciate your view on it.

I'm against cheating, I should have clarified in the post that I am going to break up with her. But I'm not sure about it yet, that's the reason why I'm asking.


Inb4: abundance mentality

[–]MrAnderzon50 points51 points  (6 children) | Copy

Having a conversation with your girls regardless of status about hey I want you to give me blowjobs is a conversation you shouldn’t be having. Like uncle V said attraction cannot be negotiated.

The Brad Pitt rule: if she was with brad Pitt do you think she would say eww gross I don’t like blowjobs.

[–]yourgirlfriendsdad17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

If she was with Brad Pitt in an ltr she probley would say that. Women are what they are.

[–]Joe_Doblow16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I could imagine Angelina Jolie acting like that at some points

[–]yourgirlfriendsdad-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can talk to your girl about blowjobs you must have to keep frame.

[–]EnemyAsmodeus-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy


Here's the thing...

  • I hate giving oral to women, so I don't.
  • Some girls don't like giving oral.
  • So in some cases, with some girls, I just decide to not worry about oral.
  • Also if you get STD stuff in your mouth, it can be bad.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand the big deal with BJ's either. I rarely give oral myself.

I actually think it's disgusting considering most girls history and hygiene. I did it a few days ago with a recent newish girl. She was shaved so clean that day that I just couldn't resist grabbing and playing with her.

Unless they are really good at it, I cba about getting BJ's. I had girls do weird shit that made me lose all sensation in my D. I couldn't get hard anymore because I couldn't feel anything after.

[–]ay-fuh-q18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is excellent wifey material on all grounds

Nope. That's the fairy tale you believe in your head. A true wife wouldn't stop mid-blowjob to say she doesn't want to do it.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev19 points20 points  (7 children) | Copy

She is excellent wifey material on all grounds

Said the guy who was getting pussy for the first time.

Well at first I didn't thought it to be a problem, because I was getting pussy for the first time.

Pro Tip: At some point between "Hello" and "PiV", you should ask about her likes/dislikes at sex. Bring it up organically, because it's useful information to have. If she shit tests you on why you want to know say, "Because later, when I seduce you, it will be useful for me to know. Some girls evidently don't LIKE 'Surprise Anal'...don't ask me how I know."

You can't rely on her to have an "I HATE BJ's!" bumpersticker on her car. Or maybe she did and you just assumed she was a CostCo loyalist or all about Sam's Club.

I get girls to tell me theirs "Do's and Don'ts." A lot of girls will say "anal" because they've never been fucked in the ass right. Now, "no anal" isn't a deal-breaker for me - the ass is like the South Pole: you go, you explore a little, you plant your flag, and then you go home. Most of the time, we only want it because some girl told us we couldn't HAVE it. But no blow jobs? Dealbreaker. Very few women are not willing to suck dick, and virtually all of them are into it, once they get good at it.

But yeah, this is shit you should know before the panties come off.

Pro Tip #2: You get a girl hot enough, and suddenly a lot of things are on the table that weren't before. But no "Suprise Anal." YOu should still get Clearance From the Tower for that.

[–]richasalannister17 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don’t particularly like surprise anal either; it’s awkward, messy, and kind of ruins the fun of it. I tried explaining that to my uncle, but he doesn’t listen.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

I tried explaining that to my uncle

^ For the avoidance of doubt, I am NOT his uncle....

[–]richasalannister5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm, this guy gets clearance before anal

[–]northernCAgrown0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Seems suspicious.

[–]antariusz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some of like to live dangerously...

"negative ghost rider, the pattern is full"

[–]EnemyAsmodeus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

A lot of girls I met hate BJ.

They'll do all sorts of other stuff, but BJs they don't like. Gag reflex and all that.

Maybe I fucked a bunch of feminists who don't like BJs out of principle. I don't know. And I have definitely not insisted on it.

But my impression is basically: girls hate BJ.

But each of these girls, has given me a BJ to try it, they sucked at it, and they hated it, so it's not like it was me that was the issue.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Girls I bang either love giving head (I have had a couple of girls who enjoyed giving head at least as much as I enjoy receiving it) or love it after I have trained them up properly, which requires patience and encouragement.

I was N2 for my primary university gf and when she tried to give N1 head, he told her "YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THIS!" which she was because: first time, duh. Of course, what he also said was, "I never want head from you again."

I was patient with her and trained her up and encouraged her and within a month she was gargling my balls lie a champ...and she was grateful.

Verdict: Work on "Becoming the Prize."

[–]antariusz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you are truly getting pussy for the first time, realize that you are not qualified to judge women on if they would make an excellent wife. The fact that she has turned frigid on you sexually after such a short period of time should have been the red flag that your grading scale is off.

[–]Yourlocal_priest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Than i, think you know what you gotta do now.

Try one more time fucking her then its deuces.

[–]theunconquored1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you for standing up for what you want. And BTW....


[–]Deadly_chef0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How old are you?

[–]ay-fuh-q78 points79 points  (3 children) | Copy

LTR doesn't want to give blowjobs and hates the taste and smell of cum so she always gags.

I'm old enough to tell you to discard these women.

Last time midblowjob she said she was done, because she "didn't feel like it".

Yup. Definitely discard.

So I opened my laptop and started working on school projects.

Anything is better than a woman who not only doesn't want to suck dick, but stops mid blowjob to SAY she doesn't want to suck dick.

She then tried to get my attention and asked alot of questions about school and started to touch me blablabla.

Non-blowjob-givers like to pretend they can substitute blowjobs with ham sandwiches and other bullshit. lol

After dinner I told her to leave and now I have soft/hard (?) nexted her and got a plate (first one) to fuck this weekend.

Right move.

Did I overreact? She is an amazing girlfriend, but what the fuck kind of girlfriend doesn't want to give blowjobs?

You did the right move. If you keep her, you'll eventually end up in that deadbedrooms sub, begging for advice to get your girl to pretend to want to suck your dick.

[–]MrAnderzon11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the correct answer op along with Uncle Vs answer.

[–]robot3000_0112 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Her manipulation is sickening. He should kick her to the curb. Trying to waste his TIME asking about school

[–]Yourlocal_priest5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (6 children) | Copy

the health of my last LTR seemed to be directly associated with bj frequency.

[–]wanker71718 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's interesting how these things are a measure of attraction. As a self-declared retard I've also noticed that being asked to wear a condom is another indicator.

[–]antariusz7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

intensity of the kissing will clue you in long before condoms or blowjobs are in the picture. Women will fuck a dude they won't makeout with, but they only want to makeout with dudes they find attractive.

[–]Joe_Doblow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine being told they won’t do it without an std test first. Complete slap in the face

[–]PB00343 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I assume she grew tired of it and hence the ‘health’ deteriorated

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's true in a way.

[–]i-am-the-prize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yes. it's a microcosm of how much she wants to please you. sure some enjoy it, but they KNOW you enjoy it more. So some women like to do the power play, chore play, transactional BS. It may be in concert with starfish. But eager and impromptu BJ's are in the same realm. RedFlag when they wane, all assuming they were a regular part before.

If not, and your LTR'd you have no reason to complain.

[–]ProFriendZoner30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

You let her know you won't put up with her bullshit and held frame.

There are plenty of women out there that like to give head.

Find one.

[–]sasakuowo37 points38 points  (4 children) | Copy

Depends, I’d react similarly. If she doesn’t give you a blowjob she doesn’t respect you enough, and also not all cum tastes and smells the same it depends on how hydrated you are and your diet, be healthy if you’re not already

[–]curvedbymykind16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude has probably been going ham on artichokes, asparagus and seafood

[–]LethalShade-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

It seems healthy to me. Usually fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs make your cum taste disgusting.

[–]curvedbymykind2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nutrition does not translate to quality of when it comes out of you. Have you ever smelled your own piss after eating asparagus? Its foul.

[–]Don_Draper272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

As long as you wash your dick there shouldn’t be a problem. My last LTR couldn’t do cum in her mouth but she would still do blowjobs and I’d just cum on her tits. My LTR before that would always swallow. Some girls let me blow my load on their face which is my favorite.

Point is, all girls should be ok with giving head. If she asks that you keep it washed then that’s reasonable. None of us like stank pussy either.

[–]IXseed6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

If you want your girl to suck dick you gotta find a dick-sucking girl.

[–]Human_Extreme[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I remember reading in history books this exact quote from Mahatma Gandhi

[–]IXseed3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guys overcomplicate shit. It's easy. Decide what YOU want your btich, plate, LTR WHATEVER you call her to do. A B and C. Ok. Welp, if a bitch ain't doing A B and C DROP THE BITCH!.

It's like buying beer. If you go to a store to buy beer and they only sell cookies, are you gonna switch up and just buy cookies or go to another store and buy beer?

[–]Domebeers13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

a women not liking to please you is a major sign of trouble, hoss

[–]juliusstreicher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. A particular red flag that I see is her cavalier "I didn't feel like it". OK, no apologies, no "I'm sorry, it just got too gross", but, "I didn't feel like it." Something tells me that whoever marries her will be hearing "I didn't feel like it" a whooooooole lot, regarding a whooooole lot of things in their life together.

[–]Semantics12724 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy

I bet if you were filthy rich and better looking she would. So what does that tell you about her?

[–]Joe_Doblow0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It’s not even about being rich and good looking it’s about holding frame.

[–]Semantics1275 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Call it what you want. You can hold frame all you want but if your SMV is low, you’ll find less women to do this. if he was Brad Pitt, I’m pretty sure she’d be gobbling all the time.

[–]Joe_Doblow2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

You don’t need to be brad Pitt or rich or hot to have chicks gobbling it’s about the mind state and how you act.

[–]Semantics1271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed to a point.

Those things help. This sub is all about self improvement and bettering yourself, and having self respect.

My point is that a woman won’t have sex a certain way with someone whereas a guy she values more, she’ll be on her knees. Just a fact.

[–]DoesItMatterTooYou8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

If this is an early GF for you then absolutely move on. You have to explore some to get an idea of your strong desires. If you don't know yourself then really no girl is LTR/wifey material until you figure yourself out. Horny enthusiasm working my tool is always front of my mind...

[–]His_Hands_Are_Small-3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's not you personally, but it fascinates me that TRP as an amalgamation has become so hypocritical on N-counts.

TRP: Women are ruined because society is telling them to go out and whore it up and they all have N-counts in the 100s unless they are a unicorn.

Also TRP: Bro, you've gotta get out there and raise your N-count

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[–]His_Hands_Are_Small8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

"It's healthy for me and society to have a high N-count, don't worry, it's not like constant focus on pussy will have detrimental effects to my society or culture."

Your mentality is why TRP has been shifting away from a self-improvement community and towards a PUA forum over the past 2 years. Constant focus on "pussy pussy gotta do stuff because that means more pussy" is having an effect on a large portion of the community. Sure, it's not a black and white world, there's people here who still get it, but the aggregate doesn't. Every other post here how is "should I drop this plate for this one thing she just said?" or "how come other men are dicks to me?".

We used to talk about starting businesses, meeting people (men) who help you improve your life, recipes for healthier lifestyles, things you can do with your LTR to improve your relationships and usually her too as a byproduct. There was an element of understanding that we aren't a one man army. Slowly the "enjoy the fall" mindset has set in.

Sleeping around and how to attract women was always a part of the red pill, but it was never so encompassing before. The fall of the other virtues of the red pill will cause the destruction of the community as well. Honestly, abundant promiscuity, even for men, is not red pill. It's unhealthy for you, her, and your society. It demonstrates an inability to find satisfaction in others, and poor judgement of character. If you're unable to find happiness in a relationship without sex, that's indicative of some serious problems about how you form and hold relationships.

You probably have a lot right, you have too to have a high N-count as a male. But we all have problems and vices. We're human, imperfect, trying to make the best of ourselves and our situations. Like many problems in life, ignoring them won't make them go away, and worse, they'll probably build up and be bigger problems in the future.

[–]DoesItMatterTooYou4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is a lot of truth here. Perhaps the best middle ground is don't get fixated on a woman or women early. Build yourself and date some, as in actually get to know someone and practice your social skills, but they are not the primary focus of your work or the end goal.

He is right doing RedPill stuff just to bang is the wrong motivation. RedPill to be more capable and confident as a man will draw better quality people toward you, some of them will be female, whom you might decide to engage with if they are compelling.

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[–]His_Hands_Are_Small0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

implying your "4 word comment" wasn't shorthand for a longer, much talked about concept

How cute. Nice deflection attempt though.

I'm not going to pretend that it doesn't exist.

No one is pretending it doesn't exist. The challenge was whether or not the internalization and acceptance of the analogy was healthy and "red pill", not whether or not it exists.

As for the rest, you stance has been noted, enjoy.

[–]DoesItMatterTooYou2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is a double standard for sure.

I personally wouldn't find a woman with N=0 or 1 all that interesting but I am older and like women whom are open to exploring things and will say what they enjoy rather than playing stupid games.

Hell send me the sluts while y'all search for the unicorns. I'll take one (or 50) Ferda

[–]bert_cj7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This used to happen to me all the time before I discovered red pill. My blue pill beta behavior made my girl unattracted to me, constantly denying me sex and head.

Once i started working on myself, stayed in better shape, better clothes, better grooming etc etc, stopped being needy, and stayed in my masculine frame, this stopped happening.

[–]Lalocal4life4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is testing you to see if.she can control you. This is the tip of the iceberg. Run.

[–]acoltismypassport11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

My current girl doesn't like swallowing, hates the taste of a hot load. She gives head, just won't swallow. First time it happened I had the same thoughts - auto next, no contact. However, the desire is there, and I get everything else whenever I want.

Some girls just don't like the taste of cum. Not even giving a blowjob though? That'd be a deal breaker. Doubly so if she isn't compensating in other ways - anal, other stuff. You get the picture.

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[–]acoltismypassport1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She doesn't like Budweiser either.

[–]Tiway225 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dont ever LTR someone who doesn’t meet your needs.

[–]Crixusgannicus2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you hired someone to work at a job and they balked at performing one of the necessary functions of that job, what would you do? Would you not:

1)Fire that person and hire someone else or

2)Keep that person on and hire someone else to take up the slack or

3)Demote that person, whilst keeping them on and hire someone else who will do all that's required, placing the new person in the old persons job.

Would you not?

[–]jchrist984 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Give her a backhand slap and say "I will not take this treatment from a woman." Then unsheathe your imaginary sword and pretend to behead her.

[–]flatox2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Well make sure your dick is clean af.

[–]arcanepolar1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

yeah i would like to know if this is a pattern with OP. sometimes it’s you bud

[–]Human_Extreme[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I always shower before she comes over and I'm shaven to the length of stubbles. She doesn't think it is dirty, she just complains and abjects

[–]flatox2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well a suprising amount of dudes do not consider washing properly under the helmet.

[–]zboo1h2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You did exactly the right thing. No emotion, no anger, no disappointment or ultimatum or whatever - excellent.

If someone doesn't do the job, replace that someone. If you hire a plumber and they just sit on their phone and tell you they don't like the smell of toilets and so on, do you keep calling the plumber? Fuck no.

You sound extremely young, I say reduce her to plate status and move on with your life.

[–]JustArtist87 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah getting real tired of women not doing what we get them for.

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[–]Don_Draper271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This should’ve been acknowledged during the vetting process. If blowjobs are a deal breaker then consider keeping them as plates at best, if the PIV is good enough.

I had a plate 2 years ago that swore she’d never given head before. I tried pushing it the first few times but she was firm on not doing it. She’d say that if I LTR’d her she would then give me a blowjob. LMAO, no. She lived like a mile away and PIV was great and she had a really nice ass so she stayed but I had 2 other girls that enjoyed my dick in their mouths so I wasn’t BJ deprived.

No BJ girl got cold so I ended up fucking her friend, who did give BJ’s. She was aware that the friend never gave blowjobs and said she “felt bad” that I wasn’t getting that. I smirked and replied, “true, I wasn’t getting blowjobs from HER”. Her face was priceless.

[–]H_Crush1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

too comfortable with you and lost frame. if she says she doesn't like it, it means loss of attraction and you can't negotiate that. you'll need to pull away attention and detach and see from there if the ltr is worth it (otherwise great value to your life), but start lining up plates in case it doesn't pan out

[–]Carlos_Kingston1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The very obvious question is would you spend the rest of your life not getting blowjobs or rare blowjobs that suck? pun intended As for the taste of cum, with her or whoever you find after you dump her (as you should), read up on diet etc effect on flavor. Drink plenty of water, avoid bitter or spicy food, garlic, wine, tobacco, coffee, certain vegetables and lots of other stuff. Fruit helps. If you eat right it doesn't taste much of anything. Actually saw a sex ed show here on TV a few years ago where the host (guy) talked about how to get "gourmet cum" 😅 Also you can cum as deep as possible in her throat so she won't or only barely taste it at all.

[–]Fabulous-Craft1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd say you handled it well, but you should take this as a wakeup call.

Blowjobs are very much about straight up sexual attraction. Tons of women out there who haven't given their husbands head in decades and are deep throating a hot stranger.

Mind is right, makes sure the body is too.

[–]1rugged793 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The amount of time my dick spends in a woman's mouth is directly proportional to the amount of bullshit I'm willing to put up with from her before I Next her.

Very few women really have a real, valid issue with blowjobs. But perpetually single feminists, the media and beta dudes have taught them that they can get everything they want. They didn't teach them about the struggle and sacrifices that they would have to make in order to achieve everything they want. So most women think that they can put comfort as their highest priority, dodging adversity and still achieve the desired effect.

So most women are subconsciously conditioned to think like this:


Objectively: mutual giving and receiving benefits

What she sees: she's LETTING you receive benefits as someone who is granting them... doing you a FAVOR

Going down on a chick:

Objectively: whether or not you enjoy it, you're putting in work

What she sees: you're MUTUALLY getting pleasure and benefitting because she's giving you sex


Objectively: her putting in work to make you desire to be around her

What she sees: no obvious benefits to her, patriarchy, oppression, indentured servitude, blah blah blah

So unless she was taught that this way of thinking is incorrect, at no point in time is she thinking you're both equal in getting and receiving pleasure. She's either doing you a favor by letting you have sex, or you're both benefitting when you go down on her.

If you're a Chad, either all her "logic" goes out the window or she sees it as doing him a favor by granting him sex. Or she sees that this guy is "High Value" and offers him what he wants in order to compete with all the other women vying for his attention. Because it's assumed he gets it all the time, she's got to offer sex to attempt to "plant her flag".

It's highly unlikely that she has a real, valid issue with blowjobs. So either she doesn't see you as High Value or her way of thinking about sex is wrong and either way, she's probably taking you for granted.

If it's about value, the standard "Go lift and read the Sidebar" applies.

If it's about her mental approach to sex, reeducate her about how men and women don't owe each other shit, but she has to put in work to make you have the desire to be around her and vice versa. You put up with her shit, protect her and in an LTR, sometimes assist or provide for her. If she can't see that, then it's time to NEXT.

Gonna make a post that loosely applies to this topic. Stay tuned!

[–]DTron23322 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh she’s doesn’t want to give blowjobs? Well let her know you don’t want to be in a relationship, with a girl that doesn’t give blowjobs, and mean it.

That’s bullshit, all women will easily suck the cock of a guy they view as higher value, and would love to please. Ditch her, or go find another girl to give you a blowjob, tell your gf she can watch so she can get an idea of what you’re into ;)

[–]TheDeadlyZebra0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My first wife surprised me shortly after we were married with that shit.

Luckily she's now an ex-wife.

[–]party_dragon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Up to you what you want.

Personally, I think life's too short for not getting blowjobs.

[–]comcain0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"I go down on you and give you amazing orgasms. You won't do this for me. That's a dealbreaker for me. Deal with it."


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I had an LTR who was perfect in every way except she didn't give blowjobs. I tried to ignore it but it was gnawing away at me. Eventually I had to dump her. Just end the LTR now, it's not worth being unsatisfied when there are so many woman out there who love sucking dick. Don't tell her it's because of the blowjobs, maybe in the future you could tell her that was why to try to help her after you guys are both moved on but definitely don't bring it up during the breakup or anytime soon.

[–]ilike-titties0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Have you told her this is a deal breaker for you? How is anyone supposed to meet an expectation they don’t know exists?

If so, then maybe you’re just not compatible.

[–]TheStumblingWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some people just don't like a thing. You need to figure out if she just doesn't like blowjobs on you, or in general.

[–]MisterRoid0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good job. I think you handled it well.

[–]ViolentInteger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Silently demote to plate/FWB.

If you're compromising on the necessities of your LTR, then you've made a mistake (likely due to scarcity mentality).

I've personally had plates/FWBs that don't give blowjobs, and things worked out fine. When I was in the mood for a BJ, I'd just hit up one of the other women in the rotation.

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[–]Human_Extreme[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well she always sucks a bit and then wants to jump into sex, she never wants to finish.

I'm indeed more frustated on the principle, however I would lie if I told you I don't like blowjobs.

She doesn't do anything extraordinary, just normal sex.

Yes, I always eat her out. That was the primary reason for this post/situation. Taking, taking, taking and no giving.

[–]yvngmysterious13-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

what js LTR?

[–]Carlos_Kingston0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Long Term Relationship

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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