r/WAATGM doesn't endorse this man's behavior on Bumble, but it's another example that mature, financially stable men who are constantly passed over aren't welcoming women with open arms after dating a string of men and ending up post-wall or single moms.

linkmaster144 · 2020-06-01T18:17:38+00:00

I feel bad for guys like these.

They get told, "These are the personality traits women want." They go out and try to be exactly what society tells them works... and it doesn't work.

And that's not even the worst part. If they make even the slightest complaint, they get bombarded with, "Stop being a "nice guy," or "If you have to say you are those things, you probably aren't," or "You need to work on your personality." So not only are they lied to, they are villainized for saying that it isn't getting them results. They can't win.

And society wonders why the black pill and incels are becoming a thing.

ace_kantrillo · 2020-06-01T16:54:53+00:00

The golden age of online dating has ended. It started with an equal opportunity roll call of individuals from various walks of life who took a chance to try something different and were humbly rewarded with a like minded partner who was reasonable and honest. Over time, the advantage of women to gather validation and attention from hot guys ensured that less and less women would be available to an honest man. On the other side, the requirement for men to be a much more attractive prospect than those women ensured that they were only interested in those women that put out or the best of the breed to have a family with often coming from a high ground position of not wanting a slut.

Because men and women seek different qualities and traits from each other, there could be no common ground with this new found convenience strewn through the fabric of our society where we have new requirements for both genders, some that were difficult to pass and others that would be impossible. The result is that those men who have the "X factor" that women are looking for would have an advantage, while the increasing majority of men would be rendered completely invisible. As those men age and start finding happiness within themselves, they develop a bitter attitude towards the opposite sex, claiming that modern women still say they want a traditional, gentleman but acting upon their natural instinct to submit and have sex with only the alphas.

It isn't the fault of men to come to the conclusion that women say they want one thing and then do the complete opposite. That is a long and well understood gendered meme. What hasn't been so obvious though, is that women utilize a dual-mating strategy if possible, letting their bodies be used for all sorts of degeneracy while they are young and having fun, but deny the same use or outright require a man to work harder and provide her more effort, comforts and commitment for even a prospect at accessing a now ageing, sagging, and split-roasted body. They don't even get the carefree, youthful, vibrant thing that other men had without any such precursors.

As men, we know what we are looking for and we know when we don't find it. What is harder is determining where the lies start and the negotiations end. Women cast an illusion, a lie of themselves to present something more than they are in hopes that they have a higher value man than they could have expected otherwise. They always have. The difference is that now with online dating, she doesn't have to work nearly as hard to present the lie; plenty of men will entertain her offerings and all she has to do is swipe right with her fat-app finger in her sweat pants while eating a tub of ice cream. Men have to do all the work here, including being more attractive than 90% of their peers for even a chance at the least desirable women. Eventually those men give up in this loosing game and another fat ageing single mother somewhere out there claims, 'there are no good men left!'

loneliness-inc · 2020-06-01T17:02:22+00:00

Fact: human sexuality (all of it) is driven by the biological drive to reproduce.

Therefore: everything which men and women find attractive in one another can be traced back to signs of that which they need in each other to facilitate the best reproduction.

Fact: from a biological reproduction standpoint, men need to be interested in sex on a regular basis and to be able to get it up and running at a moment's notice. Women OTOH, only need to desire sex during a small 48-72 hour window of ovulation.

Therefore: men have a much MUCH MUCH higher sex desire and drive than women.

Therefore: women are the gatekeepers of sex.

Therefore: women get to be as ruthless as they want with their sexual power.

Therefore: it isn't the fault of the man if he didn't qualify for her insane standards.

Therefore: the man shall not be shamed for not qualifying for her impossible monkey dance.

Therefore, we will ban your ass if you do shame men.

Stay focused gentlemen. Stay focused on fighting gynocentrism. Don't get sidetracked with blaming and shaming men for not living up to unrealistic and unreasonable female standards. Don't shame men for being frustrated by years and years of rejection.

Overkillengine · 2020-06-01T17:23:49+00:00

It's kind of interesting seeing the dynamic flipped.

(I suspect society is more tolerant of our time being wasted because we have a longer shelf life and are seen as disposable).

I can't help but wince at the guy's profile though. Doesn't he have a dad/uncle/bros to tell him that throwing himself a pity party doesn't change anything? And women are very much stuck in their own perspective and protected from guilt, so you're not going to make them reconsider their attitudes. They'll just think "what a jerk" and keep swiping.

AurelianWay · 2020-06-01T17:38:47+00:00

Last time I used OLD was back in 2009. Looking for some context to this post. Is the guy just flipping the script & doing what women normally do on Bumble?

houseoftolstoy · 2020-06-01T21:30:35+00:00

Did anyone else find the writing in yellow nearly impossible to read? I managed to do it, but it was not a fun ordeal.

kevin32 · 2020-06-02T03:15:36+00:00

Just thinking about some of the women's profiles here. I can't help but think that that poor guy is not good enough for a veteran 45 year old CC rider with 4 kids that lives at home as a full time mom, with all the fathers absent of course.

polakfury · 2020-06-02T03:55:50+00:00

Man I hate old Butchers who ride the CC hard

2020-06-03T04:07:56+00:00

That's what you can look like as a guy and be a virgin at 36. There can be nothing wrong with you at all, it can still easily happen.

2020-06-03T14:59:00+00:00

The man's behavior is a natural response to a lifetime of rejection and lies. He's perfectly justified in feeling how he does and responding in that manner. (He should not be saying on a dating app that he's a virgin, though.) It's a function of his being on Bumble and using Bumble boost which is a feature of the dating app that causes his account to appear to "swipe right" on women who "match" with him. Remember, Bumble is a dating app that's unique in that men cannot contact women on the site unless they "match" with those men. Men cannot initiate a one on one contact on Bumble. Only women can. It's an app geared specifically to women.

This man is telling women not to swipe right on him over and over again, and being upfront with them. He's telling this woman he's not interested in them when they swipe right on him over and over again in multiple accounts. And it is PERFECTLY OK for him to do this. It is perfectly ok for this man, or any man, to tell a woman straight up "I am not interested". It's also cool for him to say what he said in the profile, words to the effect of "Being a good man has never helped me at all in dating. I just get rejected. They just go after more conventionally attractive men. So now I will start rejecting women, especially when those women just swipe right on me over and over again and then waste my time."

Rather, the focus should be on the woman's behavior. And it's always the same when a woman is confronted with "I'm not interested" and "here's what women are doing so I'll just reject them" It always follows the same progression:

--"Why are you doing this"

--"You're doing it wrong"

--"You're just bitter"

--"Who hurt you??"

--"I really hope you can find peace and happiness"

With a subtext of

--"There is no fucking way I will ever ever ever date you or fuck you. that is not ever going to happen."

The point is that this is what men should expect in response to their forthrightness: Disingenuousness, lecturing, condescension, disdain, and ultimately faux "concern" with dismissal.

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autonomousfailure · 2020-06-03T00:17:08+00:00

This is 100% my opinion, but I firmly believe that dating apps are pointless as fuck, unless you’re looking for a one night stand or if you’re 40+ years old.

Its comments like this that makes me wonder why men use dating apps to look for long terms relationships. That isn’t the only study on Reddit I’ve seen men made, I saw plenty of testimonies about men matching with a large amount of women only to end up with a low, single digit number.

I’d say it’s better to meet women IRL, like stores, libraries, maybe community college, public transportations, or even work (even though a lot of people think it’s a bad idea.)

Like I said, that’s my opinion.

AdmiralSandbar · 2020-06-04T18:17:00+00:00

Whoever is responsible for white on yellow text should die.

Harry_Teak · 2020-06-05T04:12:37+00:00

The lumberjack look isn't really the key to losing that pesky virginity. Unless you're trying on Grindr of course.

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nnnnawalt · 2020-06-08T20:26:56+00:00

It's a shame he never was given a chance. He's kinda cute from what I can see and his frame makes me think of a tall lumberjack type. My opinion might not be worth anything though because other girls always said my taste in men was weird. Though whats written below will help him as much as it helps women to write "all men are crap" on their profiles.

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