Tried everything on this chick last night.

Vibe wasn't necessary sexual but it was like a slightly 'buzzed' hook up. She wasn't really my type but she definitely was pretty enough to get me hard.

Anyway did everything from escalation to disconnects and back to kissing. She said NO several times and then finally had to give up else I'd be risking something illegal. Anyway sent her home in the middle of the night cause she didn't want to wait till a safer time in the morning - should have made some recordings but whatever.

I'm sure for experienced guys it pretty much probably never happens anymore.

I'm aware the best type of hookups are where the girl wants it as badly as you but still how often whatever you try just doesn't work at LMR stage.