She’s not yours it’s just your turn...

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June 27, 2020

Curious to know how powerful this fundamental principle has been in your anecdotal experience? It seems like the best idea I’ve derived from TRP. Even if you’re married with kids this is still in effect. It’s strange and confusing because it counteracts biology but most women are hijacking their biology with hormonal contraception anyway, so it’s just the world we live in.

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Title She’s not yours it’s just your turn...
Author AceMav21
Upvotes 145
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Date 27 June 2020 05:18 AM UTC (10 months ago)
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[–]sjswander9483 points84 points  (6 children) | Copy

I like it re-worded and re-framed as " I'm not hers its just her turn"

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the advanced attitude, when you recognize the value of your time.

[–]MrSelfDestructXX17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

^ This is the true red pill mindset.

It’s funny how that beta behavior leaks out even with fundamental maxims. As if the woman is the object of value and not the man.

[–]Sigma1Enigma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Would you speak Spanish to a French speaking native who only knows English and French ? ..

you have to speak blue pill language to blue pill speakers.

"I want to make her mine"

"I'm so lucky to have her"

"I don't know if I could live without her"

"She's not yours bro, it's only your turn"

[–]ZosoWicca5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. His turn? Has she contracted him? If you have made the election, its HER turn.

[–]1rugged792 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is good. But the original rule was put in place for guys just taking the RP. The shock value and the way it makes them rethink their approach to women is why it is framed that way.

If your statement is read by someone just entering RP, he doesn't gain any insight on the female psyche, which is what most of those guys need when they first enter the dojo.

[–]Revere_Tha_MC1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is gold right here.

[–]BetterCallSaulsa141 points142 points  (4 children) | Copy

“Insanity is doing the same bitch over and expecting different results.”

[–]z2a1-914 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]pukima_sial9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Saved in case oneiites come by

[–]MrAnderzon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shouldn’t be in case but when Oneitis happens case

[–]georeddit20183 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man. This shit is true.

[–]DiskKiller228 points29 points  (3 children) | Copy

Life is a single player game. No one is ever truly “yours”.

[–]sportsdude5232 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Navi has something to say about that...

[–]zamahx4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

That bitch left him too in ocarina of time, then he chases after her and dies in majoras mask

[–]sportsdude5232 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Terdmuffin72 points73 points  (1 child) | Copy

You need to actually be with a few women to understand t It.

[–]MNCPA2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This took me a failed marriage to understand this concept.

FML - I'm on my 3rd grad degree in my 30s, and sometimes, I'm just dumb.

[–][deleted] 85 points86 points  (10 children) | Copy

It’s common sense, no one is ever “yours”. I’m surprised that this comes as a surprise to people. Women and men are autonomous beings and they will be with you if your relationship is working. If that changes, they are free to move on, just like you are. The idea that she’s “yours” or that your partner “belongs” to you is dysfunctional bs.

[–]pimptendo10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. It verges on abusive depending how much you think you "own" your significant other.

[–]Blue-Raft38 points39 points  (18 children) | Copy

This is the ultimate realty for me especially where I live, these chicks dick hop like crazy so they get no investment from me. Don’t know if it’s a good or bad thing, lots of pussy but when you look at the bigger picture it doesn’t seem right. It is what it is I guess.

[–]Bungeeeeee12 points13 points  (17 children) | Copy

Women let to live free by their true nature, of course it's not right. Imagine letting criminals live their true nature free. No one is free, and there should be boundaries. Discipline is true freedom and woman don't have it unless society ingrains rensponsibility in them through religion or similiar means. It's the decline, though. Accept and adapt or try to change it.

[–]getinthevan3152 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Spot on. Where is the stigma for having a non-nuclear family when it happens because of shitty, selfish individuals, man or woman? Like why are women bragging about being a single mom when it just shows you were a whore who stupidly got knocked up( if that’s the case). Or vice versa, you have a wife who committed to you and the idea of the family and you go out and cheat like a scumbag.

[–]ASTRA-LUX0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]a14deadpool-3 points-2 points  (13 children) | Copy

There’s a difference between criminals and women. Criminals destroy society not women. Look at all the countries where there’s feminism and this countries are still considered to be better than the US. Norway, Sweden, Australia, New Zealand, and pretty much half of Europe. Most of the first world countries are feminist while third world countries aren’t. The only first world countries without feminism are Russia, China, Switzerland, Ukraine and maybe japan. But most have feminism and it doesn’t harm society at all.

Female nature doesn’t harm society and I like this also helps men especially fuckboys.

[–]Sylvester_Sterone2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

A lot of shootings are due to sexually frustrated men.

[–]Noodlesoupe20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah but they are mentally ill and wouldn’t be getting laid even if they were born in another generation. They would be in an asylum

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes but this men are mentally ill. I know lots of men that don’t have sex and wouldn’t never kill anybody. Killing someone just because you can’t get sex is a sign of something is wrong inside of your head it’s not NORMAL.

[–]dave-5051 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy

You’re an idiot if you think feminism doesn’t harm society. You don’t belong here.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Enlighten me then how does feminism destroy society? I don’t agree with everything they say but I don’t hate it either.

[–]dave-5051 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Feminism is the weapon of Cultural Marxists. First off feminism got women the vote and women shouldn't be trusted with such responsibility because they think with their emotions, not logic.

They also overwhelmingly vote liberal which means they're responsible for a lot of the other problems western countries are facing: like mass immigration, the erosion of native culture, etc. Feminism also lowers the birth rates by destroying the nuclear family which is bad for everyone; eventually barbaric immigrants from the Middle East will become the majority in Western countries simply because their birth rates are so much higher. Then the 1st world will become the 3rd world. Do you not see this as destruction?

Not to mention the fact that feminists are misandrists, do you think it’s healthy that women are raised to literally hate men these days? That adverts and films actively demonise men or masculine behaviour, so you think this is healthy for young boys growing up? It isn’t its poison.

Then there’s all this rape bollocks, if a women accuses you of rape then the concept of innocent until proven guilty no longer applies, and a lot of women lie about it, for attention, for money, to avoid looking like a slut.

Then there’s marriage, where a woman can divorce rape a man and take all his shit with impunity. Oh and if he has kids good fucking luck getting custody, even if the women is a blatant unfit mother, the courts will take her side regardless.

If you think the country being controlled by people who can't even decide what they want for dinner is a good thing then there is no hope for you. Men (the ones who built this society) are being penalised, villainized, and castrated, it’s only a matter of time now until the west falls, thanks to things like feminism.

And yes a lot of 1st world countries are feminist but feminism is not the cause of their wealth or prosperity, men built those countries, well before the advent of feminism. Feminism has not been in the West long enough to turn it into the 3rd world, but its coming. It WILL happen in your lifetime.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Half of the things you said are not harmful at all. Mass immigration isn’t really harmful at all. I agree with the court laws but I personally been with feminist and they agree with me.

Have you even met a feminist? Or do you just listen what angry men say on YouTube? Lots of feminist aren’t the typical man hater type and when I talk to them about the court laws they agree with me.

Usually the feminist that hate men are the extreme overweight ones that are on Twitter cancelling everybody for jokes. Those are the extreme feminazis but the normal ones the girls that just have regular jobs and regular life they’ll simply say they’re feminist cause they believe in equal rights. And I agree with them I do believe women should have the right to do whatever they please wether it’s voting, a job, or abortion I honestly don’t care.

Whats wrong with voting liberal? Plenty of black people and white men vote liberal. Are you saying that black people shouldn’t have the right to vote because most of them vote liberal? Damn talking about fascism. Anyway why are you so angry that the nuclear family isn’t as important? Oh I see here’s my theory men that often complain about the nuclear family being “destroyed” is usually because you guys are nice guys, you believe in love and monogamy. Here’s the thing. The red pill wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for feminism. It just wouldn’t. If America was conservative most of you guys would be married but guess what they are a few men who would be secretly red pilled and they would be fucking your wives. Because feminism is the truth. Monogamy is not natural not for men and not for women. Red pill liberated men and feminism liberated women. However to many red pill guys like you are bitter cause you can’t seem to understand the point as to why we become fuckboys.

How many false rape accusations have happened? I think very few, false rape accusations aren’t that many, and when a woman does a false rape accusation it’s usually because she felt confused, for example if you pretend to be a girls friend and you have sex with her she might accuse you of rape because you seduced her indirectly. The best way to avoid it is to use direct approach those are better.

Most women in society are not crazy that’s just dumb, they are entitled but not crazy. Most women wouldn’t do a false rape accusation for attention. So very few women are crazy and there’s many ways about how to spot crazy women, I think we need more articles about reading body language because that’s the best way to read if she actually likes you or she’s playing or she’s crazy. Look at Russel Brand this guy was very sexually direct and no false rape accusations, or dan bilzerian. I think it all depends on wether the girl likes you, I knew a guy that was falsely accused of rape by a girl, he was very ugly and the girl was drunk, but he told us that the girl wanted to have sex with him but the next day she regretted it. Listen just don’t have sex with drunk women, and stop being so sexually aggressive. I mean be direct but not aggressive, show women that you’re interested but let them give you the signs and let them make some moves. The problem with most men is they manipulate and women can be easily manipulated but when they realize they were manipulated that’s when they just snap and say they were raped. Men need to be less angry at women and learn to read body language, more socially aware basically. Plus most of the time when a man is falsely accused of rape he doesn’t go to jail. So you are wrong here in America it’s innocent until proven guilty, most don’t even go to court, look at all the celebs that were metoo they didn’t went to jail. So yeah most false metoo accusations don’t go anywhere so what you said was an exaggeration.

[–]dave-5051 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ahh so you’re a brainwashed liberal, that vomit of text you just spurted out is so ridiculous that is barely worth my time but every now and again I find it irresistible to destroy the ideology of fools like yourself, so let the slaughter commence.

Firstly, you think that mass migration is not harmful to a country... you think that importing millions of savages from the third world who’s entire culture revolves around stabbing and raping each other is a good thing? I take it you’re American so I’ll phrase it this way, do you want America to be more like Africa? (Poverty stricken, massive crime rates, 70% of the worlds HIV infections). If you bothered to do any research before regurgitating your Marxist filth you’d see that black people (largely immigrants from Africa, as well as the descendants of slaves) commit far more crime on average than white people. Using the FBI statistics for America in 2016 black people committed 53% of murders whilst only constituting 12% of the population. We can also use London as an example, a city completely ruled by immigrants, 42% English according to the last census (which was 10 years ago) I imagine the number of English is around 25% now. London has the highest rate of violent crime it ever has in History, do you see the correlation? Then there’s immigrants from Middle Eastern countries who, of course, bring Islam, literally the most depraved blood thirsty religion on the Earth, one that advocates: rape, paedophilia, the murder of homosexuals and slaughter of all those they call infidels (non believers). In the UK 20,000 English children are gang raped, tortured and pimped by muslim rape gangs every year, terrorist attacks are frequent, I assume you heard about the Manchester bombings? And just the other day 3 people were stabbed to death by an immigrant at a park in Reading. Plus when Muslims eventually become the majority they will impose Sharia law, just take a quick gander at any muslim country to see its results, also ask your feminist friends what they think about it. So do you still think that mass migration isn’t a bad thing? If you do then you’re a fucking idiot, mass migration is Europe’s biggest problem in the modern era.

Moving on, I can’t really tell if you’re incredibly young and immature or if you’re developmentally challenged in terms of IQ. You’re asking me if I’ve ever met a feminist asserting that I just ‘’listen to what angry men say on youtube.’’ I have a lot more life experience than you kiddo and I’ve met many feminists, I’ve lived with feminists, I’ve fucked feminists but more importantly I’ve argued with countless feminists. But using our anecdotal experiences with individual feminists is irrelevant because well... it’s anecdotal. If you look at third wave feminism as a movement then it’s pretty apparent to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that it is largely founded on man hating. You say women want equality? Tell me what right a man has that a women doesn’t and don’t mention the wage gap (it has been debunked so many times that I don’t even have the energy to explain it to a peon like yourself), then if you can’t think of one ask yourself why feminism still exists. Also ask yourself why they use the term feminism, a word derived from the Latin word: Femina (which means: for women) surely the term egalitarian would be more appropriate if they really do seek equality and not superiority.

This bit is where your liberal retardation truly begins to shine. You’re claiming I’m arguing that black people shouldn’t be allowed to vote despite the fact that I never even mentioned black people or race at all. My point was women shouldn’t be allowed because they cannot think with logic. Would you give an emotionally unstable person who is completely devoid of logic an atom bomb? If not then why would you have such a person have a say in how your country is run? And like I said women tend to vote more liberal which is where you go off on a tangent about black people, probably so you can call me racist (go ahead, that word lost its power a long time ago). The final nail in your communist coffin is your mention of fascism. I doubt you even know what that word means, probably just heard it from one of your fem friends. Ironically it’s the radical left that use this term the most, the same people who seek to destroy free speech and employ other political tactics many would consider fascist. You do realize that Communism and Marxism are responsible for more pain death and suffering throughout history than fascism ever was. Just look at the Bolsheviks and the Russian famines, where mothers killed and ate their own children. That is the ideology you peddle.

Now on to you ‘’theory’’ on why people support traditional nuclear families. Firstly, I never specified that I personally wanted a nuclear family, quite the opposite; we were talking about what is healthier for society. The truth is those ‘’nice guys’’ from your theory are intelligent enough to recognise what is better for the country as a whole, something you are clearly incapable of, you talk like a teenager who only discovered his dick a few days ago. I am not a nice guy; I have never desired a nuclear family or marriage and children at all, even before I found the red pill. I’d also wager I’ve fucked far more women than you have Mr Fuckboy. The destruction of the family unit however is a terrible thing; it’s a Marxist tactic to make people more reliant on the government. It also serves the purpose of lowering birth rates so those lovely immigrant characters we discussed earlier can outbreed the native population and turn the West into the 3rd world. It also fucks up children, there have been innumerable studies linking crime and disillusionment in youth to single parent households, it isn’t natural for a child to be denied a feminine/masculine role model. Here you show your inexperience, you claim monogamy is not natural for women, you are laughably wrong. If you had bothered reading the side bar or anything on this sub then you’d know that women are hypergamous, hypergamy is a form of serial monogamy. Women are monogamous but only for the absolute highest value man they can obtain. Also feminism did not liberate women: you are so ignorant its concerning. The depression rates among women are the highest they’ve ever been because women are denying their natural purpose, they are focusing on careers and riding the cock carousel until they’re post wall, at which point their natural purpose of reproduction with a high value male is unlikely. Also your statement about the Redpill liberating men is ridiculous because if feminism didn’t exist then men wouldn’t need to be liberated in the first place. Also, a word of advice, never refer to yourself as a fuckboy it’s cringey and embarrassing, makes you sound like a try hard virgin.

Furthermore, just because you don’t know of many false rape accusations (although even you know of one) doesn’t mean they do not exist or aren’t widespread. You just ‘’think’’ they aren’t, you really need to internalize the definition of anecdotal. What is more hilarious is that you named two guys who you don’t think have faced false rape accusations (again anecdotal) but a quick google search will show you that Russel Brand has faced such accusations. The next part you go off on some tangent trying to justify false rape accusations, this is abhorrent and doesn’t even require further comment. It’s at this point that I start to think you’re female or are just trolling because otherwise what the fuck are you doing on this sub. You claim that most men who are falsely accused aren’t put in prison, how can you possibly know this, are you omniscient now? And my point of innocent until proven guilty no longer applying is that all women have to do is say the word and everyone believes them. I know personally of a man who hung himself because of a false rape accusation. He was harassed and attacked on the streets, his house was constantly vandalised, all for a crime the women later admitted he didn’t commit.

Like I originally said, you don’t belong here. Go back to getting pegged by your feminist friends and leave the intelligent discussions to the adults/non liberals. You’re out of your depth.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

False rape accusations happen for 3 reasons: 1: She’s crazy. They say don’t stick your dick in crazy, yeah usually toxic and crazy women can do that.If a man got falsely accused of rape. Why? Do you really believe all women are crazy and just hate men?? That’s what you really believe if you actually believe that you must be an incel, only a guy that has never been around women will say that. Or maybe you’re a nice guy, getting treated like shit by women. Most women aren’t crazy not even the feminists😂. Most crazy women will do false rape accusation but that barely happens because very few women are crazy.That guy slept with a crazy woman. It’s like if a woman gets married to an abusive guy and she gets abused and complains. You guys are going to say “well you should’ve chosen better” well guess what same message for any guy that gets falsely accused you should’ve chosen better. Yeah I pity him but it is what it is. Just like when a woman is abused it is what it is. You’re acting like Elliot Rodger here: “women don’t love me you will all pay” imagine if Elliot never killed anybody and just committed suicide a lot of the manosphere would be praising him blaming women. Just like I said before we need to learn the signs of a crazy woman, plenty of women fall for toxic men, that mistreat them and destroy their hearts. Both sides need to learn about dealing with this type of people in a healthy way. By the way I’m general our society believes women more than men, but that has nothing to do with feminist, it’s that our society puts women on a pedestal. We obviously need to change this but do you honestly think that eliminating feminist will do the work? Not really.!

2: the second reason women do false rape accusations is because she was drunk. I’ve never had sex with a drunk woman because I don’t want a rape accusation, so many men complained about this but it doesn’t really make sense. I learned about dating advice to learn to seduce women and have sex with them without having to get them drunk or manipulate. But still many guys complain about this shit if a guy is constantly getting laid with zero effort then why would he be angry that women hate men that use them when they’re drunk? Just don’t have sex with a drunk woman? If you’re such an alpha with game then you don’t need women to be drunk.

3: The last reason women do false rape accusation is literally they felt confused and afraid. A know a guy that got falsely raped accused this is what happened, at a party the guy started getting he started getting her drunk then she gave him a blowjob. The next day he bragged to every guy in class that he got a blowjob and there was a rumor spreading she was a it etc. The girl felt ashamed and told everybody she was raped while drunk many guys got angry at him and even bullied him up. I told the guy to walk up to her and just talk to her, tell her why did she do it. So he agreed and did it. Then she told everybody that it didn’t happen it was just a confusion. That was 6 months ago and we laugh at it now. Nothing bad happened to him. Women are more emotional than men and believe me they get confused obviously more than men. Women don’t like being shamed for sluts, and if a woman has sex with a man it needs to be for a good reason. Like maybe “his hot” or “his famous” or “his good in bed” or “he took my virginity” whatever excuse they have. If a woman can’t remember why she slept with you then she might falsely rape accuse you or feel bitter around you. That’s why after you have sex with a girl don’t be a dick because women will get angry that you used them and falsely rape accuse you. Not all of them like I said before more women will not do this. False rape accusations don’t happen often. Here’s the proof. Here’s the thing I don’t think you’ve fucked feminist because you don’t seem to be smart on his topics at all😂😂 I’ve actually argued with feminists about this. And in a society where women have the right to speak up about men that abused them sometimes they will be false rape accusations. There will always be false rape accusations the only way to truly stop them is if we go back to the 1930s when it was okay to rape a woman and nobody would give a damn. And I love my mom so I don’t want that for her or my daughter or even the women I’ve had sex with. Sex is with consent and rough sex is hot as fuck. There’s a big difference between spanking and literally breaking her nose😂

I also recommend you to read this article about how to avoid false rape accusations.

Secondly you said that women shouldn’t vote because they vote for liberal policies? Okay I understand that you don’t like liberals but you don’t like freedom of speech do you or freedom for people to vote for whoever they want. Most black people also vote for liberals and what if trump loses this year because women and black peoples voted for democrats? Are you saying that if women don’t deserve the right to vote because they vote liberal then it means that black people don’t deserve rights because that means republicans will loose? That’s how you sound like let’s stop my enemies from voting against my political party. If most women voted for the republicans you would not be saying this in fact most conservative men would be okay with women’s rights to vote if they voted republican. Which to me that sounds very hypocritical.

Also Sweden, Australia, Germany, Portugal, Canada and Norway this countries have open borders and they have been considered better to live than the US. Better healthcare, people are in general happier. And even Switzerland has open borders and most of their policies are conservative except for that one. Those are considered happiest places to live. America is definitely not the best country. Plus Sweden has incredibly hot women, probably the hottest along with Russia and Germany. I haven’t been to Russia but I have been to Germany and Sweden. Just saying that in America there’s a weird saying that feminist are all fat and ugly. And well they are indeed lots of fat feminist here in the US but that’s not really a feminist problem more like an American problem. Really American and Mexico are two countries are have lots of fat women not necessarily because of politics but just more food consumerism here.

By the way I have family in the US so sometimes I go there but I am from Mexico, which is a third world country calling all of us savages is a really racist thing. It feels like Americans live on a different planet or are from a different planet, because I’ve been to Spain, Sweden, and like 12 countries and the women are so different. Especially the feminists. First of all 3rd world countries are in general more traditional than first world countries. Here in Mexico recently there has been a feminist movement because there has been many killings and sexual assaults in workplaces especially in the government, and just too many rapes, the government is not doing anything, our president literally said that he will not do anything. You can read it on google or something if you don’t believe me just look “feminist march in Mexico” it happened on March 8 or 9th. Basically every girl that I know wether they are slim or fat, rich or poor. Supported this movement. However none of them hate men, this girl that I’m FWB I even talked about feminazis and how toxic they are and she agrees with me. Most men don’t understand that feminism has nothing to do with anti men it just has to do with protecting women from being taken advantage of. I’ve never heard a feminist say “oh men deserve false rape accusations cause all men are evil” NEVER. If you have well stop dealing with toxic feminazis are attracted to those toxic women? Cause that’s your problem😂 also I was never poor here in Mexico I live in the rich part of Mexico which is just the privileged people, or middle class. But I’ve known poor people and the poor Mexicans that move to the US literally move for a better life. It’s way better to work as a gardener in the US than in Mexico. I do agree that the criminals should mostly be arrested but why send back the people with families? Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries even more than the US, literally every Mexican even the rich Mexicans will agree, I’m literally part of the elite of Mexico and be mine me it’s corrupt I’m not an ignorant elite like the Americans. Difference between Mexican elites and American elites. Is that American elites are okay with corruption in the US but Mexican elites we don’t because the government is so corrupt that even the self made rich people are being taken advantage of even the elites suffer here in Mexico by how corrupt the government is and how useless our cops and overall system is.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

We men have to stop false rape accusations the same way the government allowed women to have the right to vote. And that’s literally activism. Most men complain and do zero activism and I am not talking about men’s rights. Those guys are lunatics and stupid. I’m talking about people from politics need to start talking about this problem, I don’t care if it is republicans or democrats any of them.

By the way you say women don’t have any logic at all? How in high school I was very dumb I wasn’t very good at math or science or anything, I was good at sports and socializing but that’s it. Most of the girls in my class had higher grades than most guys only a few guys had higher grades than girls. Now don’t say “the system favors women over men” cause some of this girls actually did my homework and believe me the best grades I got from my homework was thanks to the girls, none of the teachers knew because the school doesn’t allow it. So of course they were smarter than me. On somethings they were better than me and I was better at other things. That’s the thing about human nature, they are some things we’re better at and other things we are not. It has nothing to do with “equality” it’s equity the thing I care about, did you know that women in the US are better at football than men😂 and I am talking about soccer⚽️ not American football. In the US the females soccer team has won 4 championships while the men have won zero. And believe me here in Mexico soccer is very popular more than the US and I’m very good at it. I’ve been to America. American women are actually better at soccer than men, most of you guys fucking suck at this game. I’m sorry for hurting your fragile ego but yeah it’s true if you don’t believe me look it up females soccer team 4 champions and men’s zero. I mean I am better than most women at soccer but American women are better than American men at soccer.

Simply because they practiced more and are more of fan of the game than American men. I’m pretty sure that women are terrible at wrestling since men are biologically stronger than women. But does that mean that women don’t deserve rights? Like I said before American men are terrible at soccer, and American women are better at soccer than you not just in my opinion but even FIFAs opinion. Does that mean that you men in America don’t deserve the right to play soccer anymore just because women are better than you? No way. Taking away someone’s right because they are not good at something is dumb as hell, because that means that you can’t see them as human beings. I believe in equity all people are different but does that mean some people don’t deserve rights cause they’re any less? Not really your mindset sounds like bullying to me. And take it from someone that used to be a bully. Bullies are deeply insecure and full of self hatred, because I was one. And no women don’t like bullies, I remember there was an article about how bullies get laid, nope I was a virgin when I was a bully I didn’t started getting laid until I learned to love myself other people and also learned game cause game is the most important thing.

I am not a communist supporting equal rights isn’t communism😂 then that means Germany, Sweden, and all those left wing countries that I mentioned would be communist and believe me if those countries are actually socialist them that would mean that socialism works wonderfully😂 but it doesn’t cause real socialismo Sweden or Finland or Germany. Those are just liberal countries. I’m a liberal not a communist. Saying that all liberals are communist is like saying that all conservatives are fascists. And that’s not true. Saying that women are hypergamous is also kind of stupid, because I know women that have cheated on their rich husbands with people that have less money, I personally have had sex with girls dating rich guys. I won’t deny that women can’t be gold diggers of course lots of women are gold diggers but women don’t get turned on by money, they get turned on by charismatic, confident, and badass men. That’s it. That’s why I support self improvement but not for the same reasons that many red pill people think, I self improve as a person and personality not money.

I swear on my life I know guys that are short, skinny, and kind of ugly but still pull incredibly hot chicks all the time this guys are not rich at all. This friend of mine his name is axel he pulls more chicks than me, his shorter than me, he has a feminine face, his skinny but he bangs slim curvy model type of girls well me too but he bangs more. Oh and he was raised by a single mother his father left them when he was like 11 he never met him again. So not all men raised by single moms become beta males my friend definitely hasn’t I’ve learned some game thanks to him and I have both parents present. Just saying assuming all guys raised by single mothers become beta and nuclear families create alphas is not a wise way to think you must see the world black and white.

By the way you said women are serial monogamist but we men are the same. If you date a woman and you are in a monogamous relationship. Let’s say that she starts getting fat or you get tired of having sex with her. Aren’t you going to break up with her and replace her? That’s most guys would do, my cousin did that with his girlfriend, and my FWB did that to her boyfriend. I asked why she broke up and she said that he was perfect but she got bored of him. And believe me when I get bored of her I’ll leave because i broke up with my first girlfriend for the same reason I got tired of being with her, I wanted to sleep with other girls. We humans will always see what’s greener on the other side. Always.

Literally how many times have you heard a woman say that she wants to try something new and she leaves her boyfriend and goes for someone better. We men literally do the same. Are you telling me that we love unconditionally? Unconditional love doesn’t exist😂 not from men or women. You want unconditional love buy yourself a puppy. Cause women won’t give it to you doesn’t matter how alpha you are.

[–]a14deadpool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes feminism liberated men too. Because in a traditional society men are forced to work, work and work. While women just look for the most valuable guy and marry him while he works and she stays at home. I mean in a traditional conservative society this hypergamy os encourager. Right now many women especially women with their own jobs don’t care if you are rich or not they just want a guy that’s a good fuck. That’s literally it. Imagine living with the pressure “I need to work and be rich to get a good woman that will marry me”. Imagine that pressure, plus I personally don’t like housewives. Because they’re lazy and do nothing, I had a conversation about this with my uncle in the US, he said that when he dates a conservative women she expects him to pay and she gets offended when he doesn’t open the door, but when he dates a feminist they have sex on the first date and it’s all super calm as long as you’re not a dick to her that’s fine.

Feminist promote promiscuity and the reason many women will have sex on the first date is not just because of game but overall the environment is good. If we really punish women for being promiscuous, then more women will be afraid to sleep around. Plus there’s going to be more cheating because I personally know women that waited to have sex until marriage and now they’re cheating while their husband is at work with guys that don’t even have money, this woman was one of my friends mom. Plus republicans cheat more than democrats, that’s a study, so why would less promiscuous people cheat? Well according to studies is due to lack of experience. Remember when I said that we humans are always inclined to want more, how I broke up with my girlfriend because if I wanted to have casual sex. Well when why do you think that men who usually have sex with lots of women end up having very stable marriages, some of them not all. But men with the best game have very good marriages and usually marry women that have experience too.

Monogamy is not natural for us men. Not women or men. We humans are naturally polyamorous or polygamous both actually it depends on the person. Monogamy only exist because of order, it was created for WOMEN not because women like monogamy but because when women get pregnant they need a man to take care and if all men are players banging around with dozens of women then babies will be raised in harsh conditions. So monogamy was enforced and then religion used it. And then female liberation came and now we’re like this. But right now being a single parent is not as bad as before, because we have something called the government that can help us. Look at Cristiano Ronaldo, I’m a huge fan of this guy, his probably my idol, he bangs lots of supermodels, his successful and he is a single parent. He was also raised by a single mother, again just proving to you that just because someone is raised by a single mother doesn’t mean they will turn out bad. Ronaldo probably the most successful soccer player along with Messi banging hot models and he is a single father with 4 surrogate sons.

Feminism does help men. And nuclear families aren’t being destroyed by some secret conspiracy theory that left hates families or whatever. Do you want to know why women didn’t divorce before? It was simply cause they where scared. Scared to live their life’s. I sing if you are a woman in the 1930s and you are constantly told that if you don’t get married you will be worthless, die alone and nobody will want you. Of course that’s a lot of pressure. Now it’s basically you can do whatever you want as long as you are happy. Which is a better one? Most divorces happen not because women are evil mostly because one or both of the partners are unhappy, maybe one of them cheated or they fell out of love or whatever reason they have. A long time ago if a man or a woman was unhappy they couldn’t do that. The man would just sleep around and his wife would I don’t know maybe sleep around as well or just be filled with self loathing. I mean I would be very unhappy if I was a woman in the 50s. I would rather be a man at that time like Don Draper.

Also why do you care about female depression I thought most of you were against being a white knight and now you’re trying to protect women from have depression? Nah who cares just enjoy the sluts that women are thanks to liberalism.

[–]ASTRA-LUX-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

What the fuck are you talking about? Free nature of what? By religion? I see some people are stuck in the 1800s lol

Religion isn't real. Its a textbook of fairy tales designed to keep people fearful of an invisible 'god'. Keep your religious babble to yourself. If you were a true 'Christian' you wouldn't be on this sub to begin with. True Christian men don't go around spinning plates. True Christian men believe in the sanctity of marriage lol

Fuck outta here with that horseshit, pal.

[–]dadudenines21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

Very true and sometimes dudes come back for another turn, then you go in for another yourself. Women can rationalize anything.

[–]noNooodleArms4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very true and sometimes dudes come back for another turn,

Blackdragon's worst acronym and best idea is LSNFTE or "long soft next for temporary exclusivity" and it's when a "plate breaks" because she goes exclusive with another guy. Go no contact for at least six months, then say hi, and see what's what.

One thing people continuously get wrong here is that there's a vast difference between a "Blue Pilled" breakup and a "Red Pilled" break up. We all know what a BP breakup looks like, and going back to those women is usually a bad idea.

If you're spinning your plates correctly, though, you don't get typical drama. Because you don't live with them, you can soft next them any time you want. Once you've refused commitment/exclusivity, they are well within their rights to look for a man who will give them what they want.

The proper "failure mode" of a plate breaking is not that she stops seeing because you won't commit, it's because someone else offered commitment.

Depending on circumstances, there's a decent chance that she'll be back on the market, or down to fuck an actual stud behind her soft boyfriend's back, in a few months.

[–]MrSlommy74 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't understand this comment?

[–]CactusDick4Life4You3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you go back for another turn you're rationalizing, just like a bitch.

[–]dadudenines1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got weak, HB8, couldn't resist another go. 😂

[–]MGTOW_BEASTMODE6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I was happy before you, I'll be happy after you"

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

"She's not yours, it's just your turn" is the mantra of the TRP new guy. It comes from a fundamental lack of faith in your own value and power.

As you begin to build that power, you will catch glimpses of the REAL endgame mantra: "You're not hers, it's just her turn."

Eventually, women will line-up for the privilege of sharing you.

[–]Metron-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Eventually, women will line-up for the privilege of sharing you.

Is it possible to learn such a power?

[–]Bruchibre6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're not hers it's just her turn

[–]PreEntertain4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

here's how I see it.

I dont give two turtle dicks who's turn it is.

When my dick is inside her, that bitch is mine.

[–]His_Hands_Are_Small3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a bluepill principle and more-so a bluepill mentality.

If you can't keep her, then you're not good enough. If you were really the prize, then she wouldn't be leaving you, and fighting to find someone else. So many guys here pat themselves on the back, tell themselves that they are the prize, they can't get a girl to commit to them. Meanwhile, even half of betas can manage to keep a girl for life.

It's almost entirely a complete misunderstanding of what it means to be a leader and an alpha. Not saying that they can't get a girl, but there is a difference between the kind of attraction that actually keeps a girl, and the kind that is good for the dregs of women. If you only want short term relationships (not looking for marriage - which btw, is also bluepill, our grandparents didn't live that way, neither should you) then it works for them. But if you want a redpilled trad-family, it's difficult to maintain. Look for better women. If you can't find them, then you either aren't really trying, or you're too insecure.

[–]Strip_Bar20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy

I never liked this, and I don't really feel its "redpill", this is implying you give up on ever having a woman truly be wanting just you and only you, being forever "alpha widowed" by you if you were to leave.

If you have the ability to alpha widow a woman shes ALWAYS yours any time you want her.

[–]Gordon-G18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

The one who cares less has control of the relationship, this is key.

[–]VojvodaSrpski9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

What you said is far more aligned with trp than that overused saying.

[–]Bungeeeeee3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not 100% true. It still depends on the quality/level of responsibility for the relationship of the woman. Certain type of girls will still do things out of spite to get back at the guy they were alpha widowed by if the guy hurt them, made a mistake, showed weakness, got complacent or similiar.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

I love this rule. It's one of the reasons I'm able to care so little about the women who come in and out of my life.

[–]getinthevan3150 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Do you not get benefits from your personal relationships?

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Not my male-female relationships (unless it's work related and they know how to do something that I don't). Even when it's a close relationship, all I'm getting is a pretty face. I've actually been thinking about this lately and it's a little wild at how little women actually benefit my life, ngl. This is with the exception of close family members.

[–]getinthevan3150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I guess that’s one way to live your life.

[–]Beasts_0f_Burden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So is this just separating women from property, or are you saying we should act like relationships, even marriage, are fleeting? Like we only ever get a moment, never a life with someone. Even if that ‘moment’ is years.

I’m not quite sure I get the post’s aim..I am new here as well.

[–]withouteverything1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Don’t invest too much in things out of your control”

[–]CSLOBO1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's been one of the hardest things to internalize

[–]blobyqube2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, If your relationship is shit. If it actually works this aint true.

[–]Sob0o2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm not hers it is just her turn .

[–]MrAnderzon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t want to control her body. We’re not slave owners. Control the bitches mind and the body follows

Patrice O’Neal Rest in Pimp

[–]brasilgringo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As mentioned in other comments, much better to reframe this as "It's just her turn with you."

[–]AnonDude4Reddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The light-switch effect really proved this to me.

[–]wyota0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This post is pure settling. It's sad that some "men" actually sink this low where they're willing to cuck themselves to have a short bit of "access" to women.

[–]ppvknifefight[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's not been very powerful, honestly. It's way too "boogie man" and cowardly thinking for me, like the constant reminder that the relationship i'm in has an expiration date or the big bad chad is going to swoop my bitch. Nah, bitch made thinking.

I prefer very much the "who cares" principle. If/when my relationship ends, I'll handle it and get another chick. Done. I don't care.

[–]noNooodleArms0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Absolutely crippling. I had exclusive access to women under 30 for 18 years, over 3 LTR's. I was n = 4, n = 1, and n = 1. Now that I'm in my late 40's and refuse to fuck a new woman over 30, I just have to get used to the fact that I'm gonna be fucking guys girlfriends.

[–]PolesWithGoals-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I haven’t noticed this because I’m not desirable to women, will report back if that changes

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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