Man defends girlfriend, she flips out and becomes terrified of him

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June 30, 2020
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A tl;dr of the post is that an Army vet and his girlfriend got into a traffic altercation. During it, another man took a tire iron and shattered the car window on the girlfriend's side, prompting the vet to get out of the car and beat the shit out of the aggressor. Cops were literally a street corner away, so they very quickly came and cleaned up the situation. Now, the girlfriend claims to be terrified of him and refuses to see him, while her family is treating him like some kind of monster.

On its face, this would seem to run completely counter to the Red Pill. I've seen multiple posts claiming that women want dangerous/monstrous men. The expectation that one would have coming off of reading TRP would be that her caveman instincts would prompt her to jump his bones as soon as they got home - instead she wants nothing to do with him. Why is that? Is there something that I'm missing here?


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Title Man defends girlfriend, she flips out and becomes terrified of him
Author dusara217
Upvotes 100
Comments 105
Date 30 June 2020 07:49 PM UTC (9 months ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/702698
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/hiur8m/man_defends_girlfriend_she_flips_out_and_becomes/
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[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar184 points185 points  (15 children) | Copy

That post and the comments are a microcosm of how fucked and unnatural society has become.

First, his GF. She is so insanely privileged as to have been shielded from even the concept of violence her entire life. The West is so prosperous, so safe, that the violence required to maintain the system is effectively below the conscious awareness of your average female. She can pretend it doesn't exist because she's not aware of it. I guarantee you some low-rent bitch from the ghetto wouldn't react this way.

Second, the comments. Everyone pretending he has some kind of violence problem? Look at these soft, waste-of-space soyboys implying that he has some kind of psychological problem for handling business.

Yes, biology is important, but never underestimate the impact of a lifetime of brainwashing.

[–]ReCalibrate9759 points60 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely spot on.

We have effectively removed the threat of failing to survive.

Now we stumble upon our own pseudo-problems which exist only in our minds.

[–]AshyBoneVR45 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This right here is the best God damn description of common life I've EVER heard....

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy

While I totally agree with all that you've said here, I think the reason is she was looking for an excuse and she found it.

[–]BPasFuck26 points27 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bingo. If he'd peeled out and fled the scene, she'd be whining how he wasn't man enough to protect her.

[–]GrievenLeague75 points76 points  (1 child) | Copy

I guarantee you some low-rent bitch from the ghetto wouldn't react this way.

I guarantee you she would treat him like shit if he DIDN'T do it, hahaha. Hell, some of them even try to get the boyfriend to fight.

[–]DrJamming17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty sure TRP is not about finding golden method to get a low rent ghetto bitch LTR..

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

seriously, the first comment from the pacifist guy was cringe af. . .

[–]kellykebab7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some of these people need a vacation in Juarez and to only be let back when they understand why we have it better.

[–]Aspanu2412 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

This all happened in the last 10 years and I know who was responsible.

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[–]CrystalPillCreature14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

Hawaiians...

[–]LLL3peat92 points93 points  (11 children) | Copy

She liked the idea of a bug strong man but didn’t know what her army vet man was capable of. She sees the tire iron window smash and the guy walking away as situation ended, but boyfriend stepped in and taught the guy a lesson. Gf is scared that big strong man will do that to her if they get into an altercation.

Nothing he/she could do to fix it. Sounds like she wanted an idea to get out of the relationship/engagement but didn’t have a reason to. Now she does. She thinks he’ll flip and do the same to her. Who really knows what the internet story proved. That’s it when you get away from the mans perspective. She wanted out. She’s not yours, it’s only your turn

[–]dusara217[S] 31 points32 points  (6 children) | Copy

So you're saying that she probably wanted an excuse to get out to begin with, and this is that excuse?

[–]aDrunkenWhaler50 points51 points  (2 children) | Copy

This was the first thing that came to mind when reading your post. She wanted out. Now, she can't leave a hero, but she can leave a violent and dangerous man.

[–]BPasFuck21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. This is just typical hamstering and goal post moving.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didnt seebwhy till your comment thanks opened some eyes

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[–]fckyaselves3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why was she so quick to break it off? They’re engaged - I feel like if you committing to spend the rest of your life with someone you should be able to open up to them about this or at least explain that something is wrong and you are working through it. It’s selfish to expect your partner to just “get it”. Either way - she didn’t do that, she just called it quits and made it seem like he was dangerous.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

She never saw violence before. It was more than she could handle. Quickly, back to the wine and cats!

[–]Keepyourpowderdry4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haaha quick to the catcave!

[–]johncillo1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also, women for evolutionary purposes have vetted aggresive and feral men due to conservation of children( this has made us more rational). However, it could be a combination of 3 things. A previous altercation fear, motherly instincts, and she wanted out. Nothing the man could fix now, he’s protecting.

[–]babybopp-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

U hit it. She loves to be defended but not by a feral man. A man who is out of control. If that dude would have taken him out with one punch she would have swoon over her hero. But pummeling a man down shows a complete lack of frame and control. Her pussy insta dried up...

[–]bottled_butts35 points36 points  (5 children) | Copy

Reading all those pussy redditors comments is nauseating.

Weak soyboy men and pearl clutching karens willing to give up their life or a loved ones life for some pacifist virtue signal. Disgusting trash people.

[–]badabing6546 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Do you think this is how the average man is now, they cant be this many pussies in the real world

[–]Sintar078 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

We are on Reddit; this kind of person is probably overrepresented here.

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[–]Sintar074 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because it's one of the places they can mob up and pretend they're strong.

Strong people are capable of defending themselves but normally peaceful, like the main guy from this post. Weak men are incapable of fighting and bitter about it, so whenever they can get in a big group they lash out violently while insisting they're "peaceful." Of course, they aren't peaceful at all; they're just typically incapable of the violence they desire.

[–]kittenssavedmylife3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

They're are still a nauseating amount of them however

[–]Laying_PipeNYC64 points65 points  (17 children) | Copy

I’m the guy. I’m not really in like..the greatest of spaces mentally but I’ll answer some questions. I’ll clear a few things up here.

The headbutting thing is ridiculous. Dirty boxers headbutt for a reason. Early wrestlers and strikers utilized a shit ton of headbutt’s in early MMA. Wanderlei Silva lost a fight I believe because he refused to stop hitting a man with his open wound bearing head. They are effective, particularly when clinching and grappling on the feet. They don’t signify some inner rage. I’m not an angry guy. My issues lie more along the lines of depression and anxiety. I didn’t have any free limbs and I really didn’t want to get hit with a fucking tire iron so I hit him with my head.

[–]TiredOfBeingMediocre34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

you did the right thing my man, hope it all works out for you.

[–]dusara217[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

I hope you come out of this okay, man. It's a pity that you got so much hate about this, it's amazing to me that people are so against self defense.

[–]BluzzKill15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro, welcome to the sub and you did absolutely NOTHING wrong. For someone trying to kill you... I mean you basically gave him a spank and sent him on his way.

I also have the same smiling problem you do. I am generally a tense guy but in emergencies I really shine, smiling and happy as shit, bullets flying. I figured out the issue is I have general anxiety so when shit goes really bad my anxiety meter was already at 9 going to 10 ain't shit while most people are at a 1 or 2 the jump to 10 is too much. NEVER apoligize for being what you are and handling business.

Also I am gonna say it. You don't have to feel bad for enjoying it. Nothing is wrong with that as long as you act honorably there is nothing wrong with enjoying violence or stress.

I had a similar thing happen and was reading the serial number off the other guy's gun it was so chill to me, no brag I just understand where you are coming from. Then I tell the girl with me at the time that is like shaking and pissing her pants, "I need some tacos". She is freaked out the whole time like how can you be so calm and smiling. I just told her the truth, I won't start it but I enjoy it, the shit brings me happiness and peace. No chip on my shoulder but training for decades to do something. We dont begrudge the trauma surgeon that saves our kids life after a car wreck, that sick fuck is enjoying mangled children, he is who he is and we need him. The world needs men like you also, never apologize.

[–]vadimdavidov14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hold your head up high man. You should be proud of yourself. You defended your honour, which is more than 99.95% of men would do in that situation.

[–]kellykebab31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude, DUMP HER

She's an unbelievably ungrateful sack of shit. You performed probably the most authentic expression of masculinity possible and exactly when it was called for. And maybe you saved her getting hurt.

And she's guilt-tripping you over it?

Get out. What a worthless cunt. You did exactly the right thing, dude. You deserve far better.

[–]fckyaselves11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

Seriously. It’s one thing if she personally was in shock and needed some time to “recover” or whatever. Sure - her man is strong and “violent” - but she knew that already since he is a vet. Why is she acting like this is so out of the ordinary? Even worse - having her sisters call him and making it seem like he is a threat to them? That’s disrespectful.

Also fuck all those people on the comments saying shit like “i don’t believe you” LOL why TF would someone make up a story and then ask for advice?!

[–]kellykebab1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also fuck all those people on the comments saying shit like “i don’t believe you” LOL why TF would someone make up a story and then ask for advice?!

It's possible with almost every post on Reddit that the OP is highly exaggerating the circumstances or making them up outright.

But unless this is blatantly obvious, is it more interesting to accuse OP of lying or to go along with the story and offer feedback under the assumption that it's a real event? I'd say the latter. Whether or not this particular account is true, it's certainly possible that something like this has happened somewhere. So, we might as well respond as if it's authentic. Makes for much more interesting discussion.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, turn your back and walk away from this nutter and her nutter family.

A. You did nothing wrong.

B. Stop asking for advice on "r-relationships". They are just going to give you some version of "YAY! VAGINA! BOO!! PENIS!!!"

C. You're lucky you found out she was a trash-ass ho' who didn't have your six. Why do you want her back? Better to find out that she was low-quality now rather then after you got married and had a couple of kids.

D. Years ago, I had to jack a guy in front of my then-girlfriend. The circumstances don't matter, but what did matter is, when we got home, she jumped me and fucked me until my dick was black and blue. You know, like a proper girlfriend.

Verdict: Go dark on her, and move on to better quality women.

[–]uchihaitachi12377 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Find someone who appreciates you my man. Most guys only dream of being so physically capable that noone can hurt the ones you love

[–]kittenssavedmylife3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have my most sincere condolences that this happened to you dude. Props to you for handling it the way you did and not letting it escalate further

[–]BareMinimumReddit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude. Your girl should be on her knees right now thanking you for saving her life and fighting for her.

I don't know if this a recent development or has always been the case but I notice that, whenever something bad happens or when a woman feels bad due to any reason under the sun, that bad mood gets projected on her boyfriend/husband. As if the bf/husband is responsible for it or has to help her get rid of that bad mood.

She is partly taking our her bad mood and feelings on you right now.

Even if you ended up killing the man, you don't have anything to feel wrong about. There are level to things and boundaries beyond which you cannot de-escalate. A man smashing the glass of your car with a tire iron crosses that line. You did not kill him though so even more extra points for you but even if you did, I feel youd still be in the right, in my opinion.

And fuck everyone on the main thread putting the blame on you. These are the people who would either shit their pants or do a total 180 if they were in your place. And I don't care how much of a stress response or trauma your girl got from that alteraction but if she was worth keeping, she would had snapped out of it by now and apologized for her behaviour and thank you profusely for what she did.

Fuck her. Drop her and move on. Keep zero contact from your side and ignore her. You're an army vet. You'll get a better girl soon, don't worry.

[–]ebaymasochist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Didn't read the whole story but headbutts are a great move. Your forehead is much harder than their nose. I never knew people had a problem with headbutts in self defense. I've always had a fantasy about having the perfect opportunity to headbutt a guy and break his nose. And a guy like you does it for a noble cause and this is the reaction? Damn

[–]bluefingerblue1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Bro I’m not sure this is what you want to hear, but reading between the lines, I interpret this story to mean she wanted out of the relationship, and this is her excuse. Or possibly that she wasn’t sure about the relationship, and got scared thinking about what might happen if she broke it off seemingly without reason.

I think what you need to reflect on is what could’ve made her unsure or feel like she wanted out. Did she get to see these anxieties or depression issues? Girls don’t like seeing any form of weakness in their men. Physical, mental or otherwise.

Again, reading between the lines, I think you need to work on shielding your woman from that stuff in the future. You have your parents, male friends, dog, etc. to open up to and share your weaknesses or issues with. Never share them with your girl. It’s simply their nature to react negatively to any signs of weakness.

Or to be more precise, your ability to respond to challenges or weaknesses. So let’s say hypothetically she knows you’re struggling with anxiety for some reason. Well if as soon as she finds out, you calmly address the problem (meditation, yoga, etc) and get it under control, that would be more acceptable. But if you can’t get it under control, she’s going to lose attraction.

Women are living on an emotional roller coaster themselves. They need to be able to look at their man as an escape from their tortured reality. They want their man to be someone who’s unfazed by and can conquer any problems thrown their way.

So while you might be above average in dealing with physical issues, she might’ve viewed you as being below average in dealing with these other issues.

If you haven’t read all the sidebar materials on the main redpill subreddit yet, start giving that stuff a look. Lot of insightful stuff in there about what women are attracted to and what’s necessary to maintain this attraction over time.

Don’t sweat this one. If she was going to leave you over protecting her, she was going to leave you for something else. Better to know now then further down the line after getting married. Good luck bro.

[–]Laying_PipeNYC4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re kinda off about a few things. I’ve never really made my PTSD her concern. She knows I go to counseling and used to take medication. We’ve known each other over 20 years so she’s aware of my issues they are largely my concern and completely under my control.

You’re dead on that this was basically just an excuse. Her family and friends have apparently been less than approving of my appearance ( I’m 6’4 225 pounds, covered in tattoo’s and scars with a face like Frankenstein. My embarrassing appearance finally carried over into my behavior so she has the excuse she needs to feel okay about taking off I guess.

To simplify I didn’t push her away with wildly different behaviors at different times. I’m just ugly as shit and now she’s seen me behave ugly.

[–]bluefingerblue3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I mean obviously I don’t have the full story so had to make some assumptions. But seems like you get it. She was just looking for her excuse. Nothing you could do at that point other than apply dread.

[–]BluzzKill46 points47 points  (7 children) | Copy

I'm not sure I understand this totally but have seen it before. I know of a guy that was engaged to a young lady out walking after a date when 3 armed men come to rob them. The guy pulls his own legal firearm and smokes all 3 going jon wik skill level.

Girl immediately starts treating him like a monster and dumps him.

I think it's a manifestation of wanting to avoid reality of violence which is why women are more apt to be blissfully ignorant of risk even though they are less capable of dealing with the risk.

In the particular case OP mentioned I'd wonder how much the boy friend started or encouraged the road rage which is a red flag for a smart woman. Claims not to have. After an in depth read I believe the boyfriend did not cause any of the problem at all.

[–]G0rv31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

Closest to truth of replies, imo.

Girl's been fortunate enough to live in a happy safe fantasy version of the true world. Any experience of violent altercations have been through the TV, And those are just shows, right.

Chain reaction...

  1. Upon window shattering. She abruptly and forcefully get woken up from this dimwitted version of reality.

  2. Intuitive reaction is that she don't want to wake up. She was not given a choice, it was not on her on volition. It was warm and cozy in la-la-land, I immediatly want to go back.

  3. She realizes her BF apparently was red pilled all along, his behaviour proves it (instant action, not crawling up into blue pilled foetal position and apathetic shock).

  4. This makes her also realize they never where a blue pilled couple all these years. He was always awake, she wasn't. She regrettably realizing she's been stupid all this time (something we later will conclude she'll never admit to), this triggers feeling of betrayal. First hard negative association to BF.

  5. She obviously experiences fear in this situation. This causes shock. Again with negative association to BF.

  6. Why negatively associate BF? To conclude her irrational logic: In terms of hurt. Only her feelings have been hurt so far, by her BF so he must be the culprit. She wasn't hurt physically, so the attacker is "innocent". This is the reasoning of someone who desperatly is refusing the red pill and wants to crawl back into the blue pilled womb where these kind of things only where staged on TV.

  7. Closure, the double down. After all this she'll continue to refuse red pill reality, she misses blue pill life, so she'll try to continue living in this twilight zone of blue pill fantasy in red pill reality by sticking to her irrational logical reasoning, this also saves her from admitting she's double-stupid (1st for being blue pill for too long in life, 2nd for acting irrational and not supporting BF).

Girl's likely been curled too much when growing up, with mostly mother and sisters, together with being well enough off for a somewhat gated community upbringing. No phallic archetype influential to trigger curiosity to real life endavour.

This is one person. If you scale this up to collective behaviour en masse in society you get feminism and identity politics. You can clearly see similarities to this type of twilight zone and denial in groups like libtard social democrats when trying to hold two opposite, contradicting and conflicting ideas valid at the same time. E.g. welfare state ("everything for every citizen") and open borders ("everyone in the world is a citizen").

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You could post that on the main sub by itsslf

[–]BKLager0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe a bit of a reach at times but really well written analysis. Going to read through more of your comments / posts...

[–]ebaymasochist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It was warm and cozy in la-la-land, I immediatly want to go back.

  1. She realizes her BF apparently was red pilled all along, his behaviour proves it (instant action, not crawling up into blue pilled foetal position and apathetic shock).

  2. This makes her also realize they never where a blue pilled couple all these years. He was always awake, she wasn't. She regrettably realizing she's been stupid all this time (something we later will conclude she'll never admit to),

What the hell are you talking about? "Blue pilled foetal position?". Is that something betas are taught before or after they learn how to pick out a wedding ring?

Fight. Flight. Freeze. Those are the three options for conflict that people are wired with.

[–]bottled_butts5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think it's a manifestation of wanting to avoid reality of violence which is why women are more apt to be blissfully ignorant of risk even though they are less capable of dealing with the risk.

I dont understand why they do this. They will put themselves in a unnecessary dangerous situation, ignore it and act shocked when something bad happens. Why do they do this?

[–]BluzzKill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not because logic!

[–]ebaymasochist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

. They will put themselves in a unnecessary dangerous situation, ignore it and act shocked when something bad happens. Why do they do this?

Are we really going to say this is only women?? Just ignore all the people who swim in the ocean and then get mad because there are sharks. People go on safari somewhere, or put their hand in a tiger's mouth, get fucked up by an animal... Is that only women? sigfreud and Roy, the crocodile hunter, a thousand other guys who fucked around with danger and don't think anything bad will happen. To them.

But the real cause is that humans reenact events from their childhoods that were traumatic and caused a deep imprint of helplessness that never goes away. Usually seen in dysfunctional relationships.

Subconscious mind: "ok this time is going to be different. We are bigger now. This guy who reminds me of my dad, I'm going to be the one to leave him. I'm not like my mom. Let's see how far I can push him. He's getting angry, okay a little further. I'm going to leave and prove to EGO that we are strong now."

Conscious mind:"why do I keep ending up with assholes?"

People do the shit again and again because they never face the motivation itself, they just focus on the factors. The factors change but the motivation does not.

[–]OttoVonBismark7115 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Dude this is the real world. Not everything is going to match up perfectly with red pill theories. Yes women generally like more dominant men. However, some are going to be scared of them. Watching your boyfriend essentially disable someone else is pretty traumatic. Just because it could be a turn on to some women doesn't mean it will be to all. Some women might go the other way. You know that women are illogical. This is a good lesson that not every single thing about TRP will be true in all cases. They are just generalisations. Again, this is the real world, not some forum online.

[–]ebaymasochist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks for one of the only sane responses. She probably is afraid of almost everything now after this happened. People develop phobias over less. If she was afraid to leave the house, guys on here would have not given it a second thought. "but I thought women like men to take them out and stuff. Doesn't make any sense."

[–]OttoVonBismark711 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

sometimes the TRP stuff scrambles people's brains. The whole idea of TRP is that people act in ways that are conflicting to the Blue Pilled belief of "kindness=reciprocal affection." Thus, it turns out that women actually like men that can get other women, are somewhat disagreeable, and that are DNGAF. The Blue Pilled world says the opposite: "focus on her, be as kind as possible to gain her affection, and definitely care"

However, this should not make you toss out common sense. If you're a huge dick, she probably won't like you. If you go caveman in front of her, it's possible she might actually get scared of you. Perhaps at a primal level she got turned on, but would she even admit that to herself? The "woman like dominant men who are capable of rape and pillaging" is true, but I would imagine that is attractive in a different context and by a different cadre of women (perhaps young women who are a bit more shallow). It's even possible (and likely) that while this woman got turned off, there was a woman in a car next to them with her BP boyfriend who got very turned on.

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[–]dusara217[S] 15 points16 points  (17 children) | Copy

He clarified in a comment that he headbutted the attacker three times until he dropped the weapon, then threw him onto the ground. Once the assailant was in the dirt, he stopped hitting him and let the cops take over.

[–]Filmguy0002 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah it isn't that cut and dry. All women like dominant men. But not all women like violent men. I have witnessed this type of thing myself.

Back in the day there was an attractive couple that was part of our group of friends. He was a good looking "CHAD" type but pretty cool dude. His girlfriend was a hot as fuck asian girl that was pretty submissive to him. They were together for over six years. But one night we went bar hopping and some random dude was walking through a crowd and pushed the girlfriend hard and she fell and hit her head on a wall pretty hard (she started bleeding). The dude (pusher) saw it and said "bitch was in my way". So her boyfriend saw all this and his inner ghetto came out and he beat the living shit out of the dude and yelled with intense rage. We all pulled him away and the guy looked like a damn pizza on the sidewalk. Well, apparently seeing her boyfriend's reaction scared her too much and she dumped him the next week. Supposedly this wasn't a pattern on his part either, but it goes to show you.

[–]BluzzKill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah goes to show women are stupid

[–]TiredOfBeingMediocre4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

My man should’ve left this dumb bitch when she said that she’s scared of him and thinking about leaving her. Balls in her court if he stays with her. Comments on the post are mind boggling to me, he did the right thing.

[–]1InformalCriticism3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're probably missing the 50,000ft view. Dude is a vet. May have a whole host of problems and she was actively looking for a way to get away long prior to this seemingly isolated incident. Women will stay in relationships with men they don't actually like just biding their time and cultivating orbiters until one becomes a perceptibly higher branch. Either because her current man's branch is "falling" - and she can grab onto the first one that passes - or, a branch orbiting has finally grown higher than before and it's still within her "reach".

[–]hopelesshotel2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

maybe she wanted to leave him for a minute and is just using this as an excuse

[–]antariusz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think this is a possibility. Also, it's entirely possible that he went full-on billy beta trying to provide comfort. My girlfriend loves being protected. I'm also a vet, but I don't enjoy violence, I only use it when required.

Her family doesn’t approve of her dating a mangled uggo and it’s lost it’s appeal to her . That’s basically what it is. It’s been put a few different ways by her and her sisters but that’s basically it. I look like a fucked up spare parts Frankenstein and now I’ve acted like it so she’s done.

I mean the guys just oozes raw sexual appeal and confidence.... /s

My bigger chance is that she thought she'd enjoy dating a mangled veteran more than she actually does.

[–]Tambamwham2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’d make it clear that I handled it exactly how it should have been handled and I’d do it again. And then I’d wish her luck and be on my way.

[–]vadimdavidov3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

This man is 100% in the right, and those blue pilled retards in the comments of that post are living in a delusional bubble. The world is violent at its core. And is only getting more violent. I hope her next boyfriend is incapable of defending her and she experiences the consequences of this.

[–]DrJamming2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Now now, no need to be mean bro. Hope that her next boyfriend is unwilling to defend her and so on...

Why wish for totally innocent dude to get his face kicked in just to prove a point to a hoe?

[–]Whale FuckerPilomtrees0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He’s not wishing that, he just wants the hoe to understand how stuff really be out here and if the dude can’t defend himself, none of my business, your business, just her business. Some people need awakening or they’ll just keep acting like their shit doesn’t stink and how the world is so unfair while they are cozy on their bed watching Netflix

[–]noPTSDformePlease1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

she has seen, for the first time in her life, the truth about human nature and our modern society: it is built out of violence.

human nature is a scary thing. we are the most violent mother fuckers in the known universe.

[–]yadigggggggggg1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with tc, she wanted an excuse to leave.

[–]kittenssavedmylife1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The second someone in that thread mentioned that shooting guns was an intently violent hobby I noped the fuck out.

What the fuck is society lately? We've gone completely off the rails

[–]Ratchets-N-Wrenches1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy fuck reading through the comments.

You did show restraint, from your description at least, I have always been taught (ironically from my mother.a single mom, and my sensei a very tiny scary lady) that the only reasonable actions to take once fighting is on the table (like now) would be to cause the most damage in the least amount of time. In your situation my training and upbringing would have told me to permanently disable and/or possibly kill this man, you just whacked him in the face a few times and threw him to the side in timeout.

Your girlfriend is ungrateful and her family is Awful, sounds like a bunch of fucking snowflakes that you should walk away from, gf included.

[–]juliusstreicher1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some demon possessed freak grabbed a heavy metal bar, focuses on her window, and smashes it. BF defends her...and he's the animal???

Her head is fucked. Why do chicks with fucked heads do dumb stuff? Dunno, and never will. Their HEADS ARE FUCKED!!!!!

OTOH, she may be traumatized.

Now, WHY did she break it off with him? BECAUSE HE IS FUCKING LUCKY! HE LEADS A CHARMED LIFE! Some dudes fall in an oil pit and come up smelling like roses.

[–]IXseed1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

See the thing is that women do want a man that they believe is capable of being dangerous and defending them, that's true. However they also want to have the idea that they can some CONTROL over the danger. That's the catch 22. They want your manhood but they want to control it, and controlled manhood isn't control. So for a LTR you need to balance it.

His girl isn't freaking out over his violence but over the fact that she had no CONTROL over the violence. She was powerless so she wants to distance from everyone involved including her bf because in her mind had the bf not been their, there would had not been an altercation. She'll be back.

[–]Laying_PipeNYC1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Things have cleared up a bit. Figure I’d give you fellows a little update.

We are very much broken up. I had a great weekend with a group of formerly mutual friends ( they all cut her off after this ) and learned a lot about her actual motivations.

Some background on my ex. She’s a florist. A high end luxury upper crusty florist. She’s a solid 8/10, 5’0 100 pounds and natural blonde. Great body, great face but super WASPish. Before this she was pushing to have children immediately after we got married. Mostly because of how women with children are perceived in her industry/social circles. It’s a power move.

Unfortunately part of her gig is regularly attending elaborate functions with her partner ( me ). Unknown to me she’s normally asked about me virtually the entirety of these events. I’m very large and very scarred. I’m also pretty well known in our community due to my service. This has apparently been eating at her for a few years. She’s making big moves professionally and putting together beautiful displays only to spend the entirety of her professional schmoozing time talking about her man. Similar story at family events. Everyone was focused on me and not Isla.

She never addressed it with me. She spoke about it behind my back with friends and I’m assuming at least her family. The road rage event was just to much apparently. She knew she would never hear the end of it and took it as an opportunity to exit without seeming like a cunt.

It is what it is. I’ve withdrawn all support. She no longer has a vehicle, a place to live outside of her parents/sisters. Oh and I came in her best friends mouth last night.

I may be ugly and mean but I now understand my value and worth much better.

[–]dusara217[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good to know you've come out of this all right. Good luck, brother!

[–]zyk0s4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

From the way he writes, it seems the guy behaved as the standard beta up to that point. And there lies the problem.

Had he always been eager to get into fights, she would have known what sets him off, and predicted that incident since it would have been congruent with his past behavior. However, if he was always soft with her, seeing a "sweet guy" beat someone viciously can be a terrifying experience. She didn't think he was capable of that and realized she didn't know him at all. Could he do this to her? What else is he capable of?

Women like dangerous men, but they all have a threshold for that danger (otherwise there would be no society) and she probably did not know how much her bf exceeded that threshold. This should be a warning to display a certain kind of honesty with the women you're with: don't pretend to be tougher than you are (it eventually comes out, unless you're just doing it for a ONS) and don't be a beta for years and think you can one day "act alpha" and she'll fall in line. You want to be mysterious, but to a certain extent predictable.

[–]Laying_PipeNYC5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I’m not sure of your exact definition of beta male but I’m pretty sure I’m sort of far from it. I’ve been involved in combat sports most of my life. I’m a veteran with pretty apparent injuries. I’m not what anyone would call submissive or soft. I just normally don’t make a habit of beating strangers in the middle of the street in front of my terrified girlfriend.

Her family doesn’t approve of her dating a mangled uggo and it’s lost it’s appeal to her . That’s basically what it is. It’s been put a few different ways by her and her sisters but that’s basically it. I look like a fucked up spare parts Frankenstein and now I’ve acted like it so she’s done.

[–]zyk0s0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That’s why I said you likely behaved like a beta, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I have no reason to not believe you would be intimidating to other men, but my point was about how you interact and relate to her. Let me highlight some things you wrote in the original post:

Once that was done she asked me to leave for a little bit. I understood. We touched base a few times on Saturday but she obviously still needed space so I gave it to her. Sunday morning she asked me to meet her for brunch so I did thinking she was feeling better. I was wrong. She isn’t sure she can continue to be with me. She keeps saying I didn’t do anything wrong but that she’s scared of me. She keeps reiterating that I was smiling the whole time and seemed to be happy to hurt him. I’ve tried to explain that I wasn’t consciously smiling and that I’ve never enjoying hurting anyone.

I’m not saying you acted wrong, only that these are all the behaviors of and understanding boyfriend and not at all congruent with someone who almost beat another man to death. Now, I don’t know the details of your relationship with her, but that’s the vibe I was getting.

I understand you may be trying to leave a painful past behind, but the effect may be that your behavior does not fit with your appearance, and especially your real persona. That will put most women off. You’ll have to find the proper balance. I wish you good luck and that the next woman is a better fit for you.

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[–]dusara217[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

How is that endangering her life? They were being attacked with a deadly weapon, what is a man supposed to do in that situation - let his girlfriend be beat with a tire iron? How is that relating to controlling your emotions? If somebody poses an immediate danger to you or those you love, your protect yourself and those you love.

[–]TRPCops[M] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't respond to women, esp trolls

[–]dusara217[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay

[–]BurntYams0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There’s this thing I read somewhere that women like the idea of having a “bad boy” boyfriend. Tattoo‘s, leather, motorcycle, etc.

They want him to look and act like a bad boy, but wouldn’t dare get into a relationship with someone who murdered 3 people and is on the run.

I think this kinda applies here. She liked the idea of having a big mean dude as a boyfriend that could defend her, but when seeing it with her own eyes, she is now scared of it.

[–]MachiavellianDogma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She keeps reiterating that I was smiling the whole time and seemed to be happy to hurt him.

Bruh reading comprehension isn't everyone's best skill. This right here is why she left.

[–]Cearball0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Did this post get taken down?

I can't find it in the sub.

[–]dusara217[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, it did.

[–]Laying_PipeNYC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

And now she’s trying to steal my dogs.

[–]dunmer_say_the_nword0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She saw what would happen to the guy she's currently fucking on the side if word ever got out, or at least what she thinks would happen. Now she needs to retreat as quickly as possible.

[–]Crespius660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It happens a lot



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