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Imagine If was a group like this for men too. Riots would break out! But still, thia is wholesome af.

by Sharkkaan | July 02, 2020 | antifeminists

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Title Imagine If was a group like this for men too. Riots would break out! But still, thia is wholesome af.
Author Sharkkaan
Upvotes 332
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Date 02 July 2020 12:00 PM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/705996
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/hjvpis/imagine_if_was_a_group_like_this_for_men_too/
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[–]MingSushi21 points22 points  (29 children) | Copy

They realize that beating up abusers and rapists will mess them up even more right? Like people realize that beating up someone with a messed up head isn’t gonna help right? RIGHT?!

[–]vicsj9 points10 points  (25 children) | Copy

No one else is doing shit, though. Neither the police not the government, they're left to fend for themselves.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool1 point2 points  (24 children) | Copy

Govt and courts literally have harsh laws where the women just have to walk to the police station and file a 498A or a rape case. The man will be arrested for non bailable offence.

[–]virtualwar123456 points7 points  (10 children) | Copy

They do have harsh laws but most women who get raped aren't the educated one's who know that laws like this even exists

Like they literally don't know shit about how the govt works or anything because their parents didn't bother to educate their daughter

[–]Yomyusernameiscool-2 points-1 points  (9 children) | Copy

So awareness of laws is more important at this point. Just how you said you didn't know all these laws ?

I think govt has done more than enough.

[–]virtualwar123455 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

People in India lack awareness in a whole new level like most people don't even have basic awareness about hygiene and population control

[–]Yomyusernameiscool3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Agreed

[–]virtualwar123451 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks dude

[–]Yomyusernameiscool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

😊☺️

[–]virtualwar123452 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

To be honest even I didn't know that women in india have so many laws in favor of them I knew only one law that men can't be raped

[–]Yomyusernameiscool1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I didn't know as well, but the internet helps.

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes but not all people in India have access to internet

[–]tallwheel1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You mean they don't all have Jio and VoLTE on their Redmi's?

[–]virtualwar123451 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Maybe

[–]vicsj-1 points0 points  (12 children) | Copy

And yet they continue being one of the most unsafe countries for women in the world. So they're obviously doing something wrong still. Just like our society is doing wrong by men despite men being able to report injustices too.

[–]virtualwar123454 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes I think the stereotypes are the one's that are playing a major role in these two different situations

[–]Yomyusernameiscool4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy

Any satisfactory and well grounded arguments for the "most unsafe country for women"? Because such surveys are done by biased sources like BBC, Vice, Al Jazeera etc etc. Because india is much behind US, France and England in rape even after increasing rape cases by 20% to account for unreported cases. What a joke that you whine about US while dissing India in same sentence . On the other hand, India has a growing number of fake cases on women's issues against men, which has ruined lives of countless men. You are complaining about your men being unable to report injustice? Ours are serving for crimes they have never done, and this is more than 50% of cases being fake.

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[–]Yomyusernameiscool1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Any satisfactory and we'll grounded arguments?

It's hilarious that you do not know this, goes on to show that just how misguided people can be by faulty and biased reporting by media.

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[–]Yomyusernameiscool0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

I also asked you to increase the numerical value of the rate itself by 20% to account for unreported cases . India still remains WAYYY behind. And no, this rape statistic was specifically about women, I matched it with the wiki article on female violence in different countries as well.

No, there aren't laws against marital rape against India, it is counted under domestic violence. But I asked you to increase the stats by 20% didn't I?

If even increasing the statistic by 20% for unreported cases does not suffice, I would ask you to shave it off with Occam's razor.

Before throwing blames at countries by reading biased news portals with a history of writing biased and atrocity articles, maybe you should shift the vision a bit.

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[–]virtualwar12345-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

But if you just leave them alone their will just get more confident and do it more publically like it's just a morning walk

[–]MingSushi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

But beating them up would just make their mental state worse and they’ll probably try to attack the victim again for outing them like that. Plus is it rapists/abusers that are proven or just a guy a woman accused? Either way, it’s dangerous

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes but actually no because there some men in India are wores than street dog not all but some men ( oh no dogs are very loyal but sorry I can't find any other way to describe it)

[–]Chopanero7751 points52 points  (73 children) | Copy

If there's a country feminists should all go to, it's definitely India. Even cows have more rights than women there. But of course, that would break their "western world is most sexist" narrative.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool38 points39 points  (30 children) | Copy

You are straight up being prejudiced , I agree india has some bad stuff for women, doesn't change the fact that courts here have literal half of rape cases being registered are fake rape cases and ruling that every married woman should get alimony if divorcing irrespective of how capable of earning she is. Laws in india are so screwed in favour of women that a marriage for a man means he and his parents can be destroyed by a complaint of his wife. If you are forming your opinions reading BBC, WaPo and other such outlets , let me tell you, they have been biased against India since forever. The prejudice some westerners have against India is appalling.

And regarding that cow jibe, the western world lobbies a lot to ban dog meat in Korea and China. I guess dogs have more rights than black people in the western world then? Please stop such arguments else we will have to hit back.

[–]Chopanero779 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

Laws in india are so screwed in favour of women that a marriage for a man means he and his parents can be destroyed by a complaint of his wife.

Shit I didn't know that.

If you are forming your opinions reading BBC, WaPo and other such outlets , let me tell you, they have been biased against India since forever. The prejudice some westerners have against India is appalling.

Never read them.

I just thought India was like the Middle East with women.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool32 points33 points  (4 children) | Copy

Dude.................

Laws are so screwed that I am planning not to marry [16 m, India] . A rape allegation means immediate arrest in a NON BAILABLE offence. A molestation case is bailable but your name will never be cleared. Couple that with a media that orgasms at painting men as monsters, even if the stories are fake and you have a disastrous situation.

Don't even let me get into the 6+ deadly laws a married woman can use on her husband (some even for petty reasons like if wife wants to eat in a restaurant her entire life husband is obliged to obey, failing to do so means husband lands non bailable offence) to put him in non bailable offence.

The laws are so favoured against women that according to Indian laws a woman can NEVER rape (indian laws say that penetration is definition of rape), in case of adultery the woman can NEVER be punished, however the person she is cheating with can be punished. I can go on and on with this.

I mean we are a patriarchal society, like every other civilisations around the world, and yes women indeed used to be viewed lesser than men till not long ago , and yes till not 3 decades ago large scale female fetuses were aborted as male child is superior, and yes dowry used to be taken, and these things still happen in urban areas, but that does not mean that here men can rule their women like middle east. Laws are that biased against men . There are several documentaries on this

Martyres Of Marriage by Deepika Bhardwaj illustrates the faulty divorce and other marriage related laws

India's Sons by Deepika Bhardwaj illustrates the alarming fake rape cases on rise in india.

[–]virtualwar1234510 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why they hell did they not teach me this in school

I never knew this shit now I gotta be more careful when near women because I live in India and in rural areas if a women starts screaming near you all that village idiots will just start beating up the poor guy for no reason

Could you please send me a link so that I can prepare myself

[–]Yomyusernameiscool5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Google deepika Bhardwaj

[–]virtualwar123456 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks dude

[–]Certain-Moose9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–]Wubalubadubdubbiatch7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

you just can't help but to be ignorant, middle eastern here, women have this thing called mehrie, it's like alimony but she can ask for it whenever she wants it and unlike alimony its not based on her needs and your income, it's usually a large number of golden coins(4000 men are in prison in iran for failing to pay it, 600000 have men have had to pay it just in the last 2 years) , becuase men are considered to have a temper most jobs that don't require mucsle power are given exclusively to women, men are forced to serve in the military at 18 for 2 years while women have fun you would be busting your ass protecting the border from armed smugglers, women can take their time between school and university, but men can't becuase as soon as they fail they have to serve in the army which makes exams stressfull for men, becuase men are considered capable of doing manly work, families try hard to pay for their daughters college but suggest to their sun to learn a form of manual labor so that they don't have to pay for college,this makes 18 year old boys forced to join the military after school so that they can get a job afterward, forcing military work to young men cuases hundreds of suicides of soliders annually, 98% of work fatalities are men, child custody of children below 7 is blindly given to mothers, the father has to pay for child support till the son is 18 and if the son decides to keep studying he has to keep paying, he has to pay for the daughter regardless of her age as long as she is single and doesn't have any job, needless to say they don't get a job when they can get payed doing nothing, i can write for ever about how bad men have it in a third world country, we have traditionalism fucking us in one way and so called gender equality adopted from countries where atleast some women actually do shit fuck us up in another way.

[–]TheDerp420693 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Shit man I never thought the situation was that bad for men there

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It was like middle East but now it's improving because more parents are educated to treat both genders equally

[–]virtualwar12345-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

You can't obviously compare dogs to black people because they are people dude animals have their own rights and people have their rights (including black people)

Just because dogs have rights that doesn't mean that black people's rights are taken away

And eating dog meat is fucked up dog is supposed to be man's best friend not man's best food

And you don't really have an idea of what happened in early time of India women where literally burnt if their husband died and young woman where married to old guys who already had a wife who died mysteriously and the idiotic parents always gave priority to male child

Uneducated parent india still do things like caring for male child more than female child

And feminism is India is not as fucked up as western countries

[–]Yomyusernameiscool6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

  1. My comment was to call out him for telling that cows have more rights in india than women. Of course it was rhetorical and to point out the snarky jibe.

But it is still without condition hyporicitcal without question that western people won't shy away from revering dogs as part of family (like you said, man's best friend), but when indians revere cows suddenly it is funny and "backward". According to indians, cows are of a motherly position, due to them providing milk . But when India banned beef I remember reddit forums going berserk to insult india and India's reverence for cows ABSOLUTELY IGNORING how they themselves go apeshit when they see Chinese eat dogs. Eating dogs is as wrong as eating cows, you can't convince otherwise. I can also claim cow is supposed to be a motherly position not a steak. So, dogs are Chinese 's best delicacy.

And whom are you teaching? I am an indian myself and let me tell you this , the practice you are talking about was VERY regional, ONLY in the region of Central bengal. And NOWHERE ELSE. British atrocity literature and newspapers (just how BBC does now) made it seem like it was a NORM in india. And this is a VERY old thing (200 + years ago, so as relevant as slavery in 'Murica)

"Uneducated parents india", well things have changed A LOT. The favouring of male child has significantly reduced, with govt giving incentives to female children and other benefits and several improvements.

And yes, feminism here is fucked up as well, just in a different manner.

[–]virtualwar123456 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

True feminism in india is fucked up but feminism is mostly made-up of educated people who most of the times just forget about helpless people and there is no one to analyse the laws properly

And sorry if I misunderstood anything brother

[–]EddardNedStark9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah India is hella simp-y

[–]ArnavChalla4 points5 points  (16 children) | Copy

India hella simp, plus take I to account female reservation and dude, it's amazing.

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[–]ArnavChalla2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

You from india? I'm in inter second year. Reservation for top institutions is dumb, maybe for mediocrity ones ok, but for the top ones merit is the ONLY thing that should matter.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Yup. In IIT, ISI, CMI and NIT only merit should matter.

[–]ArnavChalla2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, but introducing reservation into these top universities, the quality of students is going down. Politicians won't remove reservation cuz votes.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Sad thing indeed. India is going to enter a very sad phase of vote bank politics within 50 years.

[–]ArnavChalla2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's especially sad because with the proper leadership india could be going places far beyond where we are now. Large human resources, large English speaking population. What can we do ...

[–]Yomyusernameiscool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Teeming STEM population, hardworking students etc etc.

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

The female reservation is only about 33 percent in the parliament or something and most of these issues are not even concerned about the general public it is mainly concerned about economically backward women

[–]ArnavChalla6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

Economically backward women? Are you joking? I my class there are 50% women, all of them have same education, same college, and as far as I know, lead comfortable lives, why do they need reservation. Gender reservation is discrimination.

I don't mind economic reservation, but gender and caste based is dumb.

[–]virtualwar123453 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy

Agreed and that's why the govt is changing it from caste based reservation to economically backward class based reservation but idk about women

And just because there are 50 percent of women in your class that doesn't mean that all 50 percent of female population of India have a comfortable life

And consider the fact that India is a population center Even 30 Percent can mean alot of people unlike the western countries who don't have that much population

[–]ArnavChalla2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

The thing is,

And just because there are 50 percent of women in your class that doesn't mean that all 50 percent of female population of India have a comfortable life

The women in my class (and in city areas with equal education) are the ones who take up reservation. Reservation doesn't go to the women who actually aren't able to recieve proper education, it goes to those in mordern city areas with equal education. Economic reservation is the only reservation I feel is justified.

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Yes you have a point maybe india should just rework they're laws to only benefit women from lowers clases No not only women but all people from lower classes

But you know how the politians are corrupted in india these laws where made back in the time when politician actually cared about people so I don't think politician of modern times are even going to care about this issue

[–]ArnavChalla3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yup, Indian politicians are so bad, it's ridiculous. Indian policies,nand laws/the judicial system needs a rework.

[–]virtualwar123451 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes we all can agree on this

This great country has been turned into a shithole because of politicians

I have literally saw that memebers of political parties giving my grandmother money to vote for their party And these indian people are so loyal that they vote for them even though they worsen our country

[–]ArnavChalla1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

They don't understand that their vote js a LOT more valuable than the money thet give. If we had proper leadership and sensible people we'd be sooo far ahead. It is what it is. I just hope for some sort of change eventually.

[–]MeinChutiya698 points9 points  (16 children) | Copy

Even cows have more rights than women there

No they don't, you dumbfuck

[–]garvcrazy1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Dude in India if you're walking on a street and some woman asks you for a favor and you refuse, she'll just scream and you'll end up getting beaten and then jailed. India is also a witness of domestic violence to men and in India women slapping men is normal but try the opposite and you end up getting jailed. No wonder why there are a lot of rape cases in India because an average Indian man is the literal definition of frustration. If you're not virgin as a male many girls will reject you for that. If you reject a girl for not being a virgin and people will say you're a psychopath and need help, she may even slap you for "thinking like a boomer".

[–]Khufu25892 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

"How can she slap?"

[–]garvcrazy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Visit India and see it live. Streets are ruled by females, if they shout you're out. And as far as slapping is concerned, it's pretty common in India to get slapped by a woman in public for disagreeing to her and it takes seconds before she'll start up a drama and start shouting that you touched her at "places". People say India is unsafe for girls which is just a stereotype, the reality is way worse for men. Not saying rapes don't happen here, it happens but the men who do it are just frustrated or have the support of some political organization.

[–]Yomyusernameiscool1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The sad thing is that this comment is very true.

[–]Hecantonchires0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Am indian and can confirm.

[–]Hecantonchires0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not about feminism, but about cow rights.

[–]virtualwar123450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah cows have rights in india because it's considered very auspicious in Hindu religion

[–]EpicSavagery693 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women commit domestic abuse more so let’s set up vigilante gangs beating up female domestic abusers

[–]Foxenrien1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If men did this they’d probably get the electric chair

[–]virtualwar123454 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think India need these kinds of women because most of the women who are from economically backward families are uneducated and Indian isn't really that safe for women either and most officials are corrupted

This is just my opinion as I live in India and can clearly see what's happening here if you disagree you can tell me why you disagree without using any bad words please

And uneducated women are so vulnerable in india too as India is still a developing country

[–]Colombian-mra-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What about uneducated men

[–]virtualwar123452 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Both genders need education

[–]Neveah_Hope_Dreams0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So they are beating up abusive men and rapists? Nice! Getting them what they deserve.

But yeah, the question is, can we beat up female rapists and abusers? We should.

[–]Noesk-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, for once I agree with it. India is the place where feminist should go



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