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Title Messaged r/TheFairerSex
Author MusicalsAreMyLifeYee
Upvotes 79
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Date 16 May 2020 01:43 PM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/706443
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/gkuvd1/messaged_rthefairersex/
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[–]EddardNedStark15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Update us when you get banned lol

[–]Verbalicedtea7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

Feminism has become a cult. In the beginning it was about women having rights and im all for that. But now it's either they want better treatment than men or to complain about things that vaguely seem sexist, racist or homophobic, I know freedom of speech can become a bit toxic but there is a middle ground. Not everything is racist or sexist, it's so annoying to be called a sexist or a rapist in the making by women, like I get into arguments everyday with these people, the second they start losing they jump to me having male privelage or call me a sexist, but in the end them getting mad indicates they have lost the debate and know that they have, but they can't admit it so they throw a fit. Fucking mental patients i tell you πŸ˜‚

[–]Mytriptorussia20180 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Like my sister.

[–]Verbalicedtea0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Damn that must suck. I would legit get into debates with her just to make her face red. But my sis ain't a fem so we don't fight

[–]Mytriptorussia20180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your luckier

[–]itsalexcl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Bad company, I would suppose.

[–]Diomil2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

sorry, bub. You disagree with them so you wil get banned.

[–]00062aa62 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

They do know that radical feminism and the liberation of women has turned the modern women into nothing more than a sex object, to be used and left repeatedly, right?

Note, modern man is no better. They have become obsessed with minor pleasures and material success and ignore all notion of higher calling.

There's got to be more to life than this, right?

[–]Blood_Priestess4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

radical feminism and the liberation of women has turned the modern women into nothing more than a sex object

that's not radical feminism, that's liberal feminism. radfeminism is about separatism, not being a sex-crazed sloot.

[–]00062aa6-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

You are describing traditionalist conservatism

[–]Covered-in-Thorns1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No radfeminists condemn sexual activity because it β€œsupports mens sexual desires”

[–]00062aa60 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I don't see how this isn't just a rebranded version of traditionalist conservatism

[–]Covered-in-Thorns0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah same view-point but conservatism condemns sexuality on principle, radfems condemn it because it offends the almighty woman.

[–]Jakeybaby1254 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy

Umm, hate to break it to you but feminism is not about equality.

[–]wawwawawawawaw-3 points-2 points  (11 children) | Copy

Umm, hate to break it to you but feminism is about equality.

[–]mellainadiba5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Mainstream feminism that create the laws and powers sadly is not. Yes some feminists are critical of modern feminists but these are utterly drowned out and virtually meaningless as they make no laws to shape no policies and have no press influence.If you think you have a different voice, than try and make your voice heard, as right now its drowned out by a hate cult that is actually harming women (long story, why feminists knowingly hurt women, but let me know if you want to know).

If you want to genuinely explore the issues of feminism, see here. This is written neutral and fairly, academically and with sources, it is not anti-feminism, it is simply not feminist.

FAQ (from start to finish, including why intersectionality is not the answer either)

https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/08/06/a-non-feminist-faq/

[–]wawwawawawawaw-3 points-2 points  (9 children) | Copy

Ok correction ACTUAL feminism is about equality

[–]Jakeybaby1253 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you want ACTUAL equality, be an egalitarian or at least a feminist in the egalitarian movement.

[–]mellainadiba0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

Difficult to call it actual feminism, if it makes no laws, holds no power etc. Here:

Karen Straughan:

So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists... they are not "real feminists".

You're not the director of the Feminist Majority Foundation and editor of Ms. Magazine, Katherine Spillar, who said of domestic violence: "Well, that's just a clean-up word for wife-beating," and went on to add that regarding male victims of dating violence, "we know it's not girls beating up boys, it's boys beating up girls."

You're not Jan Reimer, former mayor of Edmonton and long-time head of Alberta's Network of Women's Shelters, who just a few years ago refused to appear on a TV program discussing male victims of domestic violence, because for her to even show up and discuss it would lend legitimacy to the idea that they exist.

You're not Mary P Koss, who describes male victims of female rapists in her academic papers as being not rape victims because they were "ambivalent about their sexual desires" (if you don't know what that means, it's that they actually wanted it), and then went on to define them out of the definition of rape in the CDC's research because it's inappropriate to consider what happened to them rape.

You're not the National Organization for Women, and its associated legal foundations, who lobbied to replace the gender neutral federal Family Violence Prevention and Services Act of 1984 with the obscenely gendered Violence Against Women Act of 1994. The passing of that law cut male victims out of support services and legal assistance in more than 60 passages, just because they were male.

You're not the Florida chapter of the NOW, who successfully lobbied to have Governor Rick Scott veto not one, but two alimony reform bills in the last ten years, bills that had passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, and were supported by more than 70% of the electorate.

You're not the feminist group in Maryland who convinced every female member of the House on both sides of the aisle to walk off the floor when a shared parenting bill came up for a vote, meaning the quorum could not be met and the bill died then and there.

You're not the feminists in Canada agitating to remove sexual assault from the normal criminal courts, into quasi-criminal courts of equity where the burden of proof would be lowered, the defendant could be compelled to testify, discovery would go both ways, and defendants would not be entitled to a public defender.

You're not Professor Elizabeth Sheehy, who wrote a book advocating that women not only have the right to murder their husbands without fear of prosecution if they make a claim of abuse, but that they have the moral responsibility to murder their husbands.

You're not the feminist legal scholars and advocates who successfully changed rape laws such that a woman's history of making multiple false allegations of rape can be excluded from evidence at trial because it's "part of her sexual history."

You're not the feminists who splattered the media with the false claim that putting your penis in a passed-out woman's mouth is "not a crime" in Oklahoma, because the prosecutor was incompetent and charged the defendant under an inappropriate statute (forcible sodomy) and the higher court refused to expand the definition of that statute beyond its intended scope when there was already a perfectly good one (sexual battery) already there. You're not the idiot feminists lying to the public and potentially putting women in Oklahoma at risk by telling potential offenders there's a "legal" way to rape them.

And you're none of the hundreds or thousands of feminist scholars, writers, thinkers, researchers, teachers and philosophers who constructed and propagate the body of bunkum theories upon which all of these atrocities are based.

No...You're the true feminist. Some random person on the internet. LOL

[–]wawwawawawawaw0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

So because I'm new to English and that paragraph was confusing as fuck I'm just gonna say you're a troll and I didn't wanna fight in the first place.

[–]mellainadiba1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

It means there's no point saying this is real feminism is about equality, if that feminism isn't doing anything.

Here is real feminism:

There was a proposal at Simon Fraser University (near Vancouver) to open up a men's centre on campus to address issues like suicide, drug/alcohol addiction, and negative stereotypes. The women's centre, which already existed, opposed this. They argued that a men's centre is not needed because the men's centre is already "everywhere else" (even though those issues aren't being addressed "everywhere else"). The alternative they proposed was a "male allies project" to "bring self-identified men together to talk about masculinity and its harmful effects"

8].A student at Durham University in England, affected by the suicide of a close male friend, tried to open up the Durham University Male Human Rights Society: "[i]t’s incredible how much stigma there is against male weakness. Men’s issues are deemed unimportant, so I decided to start a society". The idea was rejected by the Societies Committee as it was deemed "controversial". He was told he could only have a men's group as a branch of the Feminist Society group on campus, ironically, the feminsits group states that they do not talk about men issues [9].

In 2015, the University of York in the U.K. announced its intention to observe International Men's Day, noting that they are "also aware of some of the specific issues faced by men", including under-representation of (and bias against) men in various areas of the university (such as academic staff appointments, professional support services, and support staff in academic departments) [11]. This inspired a torrent of criticism, including an open letter to the university claiming that a day to celebrate men's issues "does not combat inequality, but merely amplifies existing, structurally imposed, inequalities". The university responded by going back on its plans to observe International Men's Day and affirming that "the main focus of gender equality work should continue to be on the inequalities faced by women". In contrast, the University of York's observation of International Women's Day a few months earlier was a week long affair with more than 100 events [12].

[1].Author Warren Farrell went to give a talk on the boys' crisis (boys dropping out of school and committing suicide at higher rates) at the University of Toronto, but he was opposed by protesters who "barricaded the doors, harassed attendees, pulled fire alarms, chanted curses at speakers and more". Opposition included leaders in the student union [2]

[3].Three students (one man and two women) at Ryerson University (also in Toronto) decided to start a club dedicated to men's issues. They were blocked by the Ryerson Students' Union, which associated the men's issues club with supposed "anti-women's rights groups" and called the idea that it's even possible to be sexist against men an "oppressive concept" [4]. The student union also passed a motion saying that it rejects "Groups, meetings events or initiatives [that] negate the need to centre women’s voices in the struggle for gender equity" (while ironically saying that women's issues "have historically and continue to today to be silenced") [5].J

anice Fiamengo, a professor at the University of Ottawa, was giving a public lecture on men's issues. She was interrupted by a group of students shouting, blasting horns, and pulling the fire alarm [6].At Oberlin College in Ohio, various students had invited equity feminist Christina Hoff Sommers (known for her individualist/libertarian perspective on gender) to give a talk on men's issues. Activists hung up posters identifying those who invited her (by their full names) as "supporters of rape culture" [7] [

At Saint Paul University (part of the University of Ottawa) on September 24th, 2015, journalist Cathy Young gave a talk on gender politics on university campuses, GamerGate, the tendency to neglect men's issues in society, and the focus on the victimization of women (in the areas of sexual violence and cyberbullying). She was met by masked protesters who called her "rape apologist scum" and interrupted the event by pulling the fire alarm [10].

opposing mens issues in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2E5aQ7yb8

blocking mens rights:

http://archive.is/AWSEN

tGreat that you care. But this is what the world ACTUALLY does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3PqQfwgaY".

[–]wawwawawawawaw0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Ok dude I got wrong no need for a fight.

[–]mellainadiba1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

No one is trying to fight. Disagreeing with a feminists opinion is not a fight, nor is it misogny etc.... Some data and facts were presented. Read them if you wish, who is fighting? No one

[–]wawwawawawawaw0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I'm not a feminist hence why I'm in this sub nor did I say it's misogyny. I just wanna stop this.

[–]Jakeybaby1250 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you save these too?

[–]mellainadiba0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This to sensible for them. People get filled with hate for may reasons, that place is a hate filled one.



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