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I don't like how feminists on reddit assume I'm a man because I'm an anti feminist

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May 13, 2020
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On one of my most recent posts, a feminist accused me of having "womb envy" because I said it's ridiculous to have an abortion just because the baby is male. Why do they assume that anti feminists are men by default? They're in for a rude awakening when they find out that not all women go along with their silly little third wave feminism movement.


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Title I don't like how feminists on reddit assume I'm a man because I'm an anti feminist
Author Rozycka123
Upvotes 104
Comments 92
Date 13 May 2020 01:45 AM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/706472
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/gipdtx/i_dont_like_how_feminists_on_reddit_assume_im_a/
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[–]nicolina-19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy

it’s also fun when you say you’re anti feminist and some idiot is like wow they just hate women

like honey...i am a woman

[–]JayTheFordMan8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Internalised Misogyny! /s

[–]Rozycka123[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

internalized misogyny is the dumbest thing ever, it's funny they claim misandry isn't real yet try so hard to claim internalized misogyny is

[–]dirgros4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

That’s feminasty speech for “superior intelligence.”

[–]thepubclosesin5hours2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh, so THAT'S how they 'rationalise' it? I can't tell you the amount of times I've been called a misogynist and just gone... "Uh?"

[–]dirgros2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Because if you’re a woman and don’t believe all women are saints and all men are devils you must have something wrong with you, obviously.

[–]itsalexcl14 points15 points  (16 children) | Copy

I was on that convo. Had a feeling she was from r/fairer_sex and she was. A bunch of retarded and probably drunk people.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 8 points9 points  (15 children) | Copy

is that a gender critical sub?

[–]itsalexcl10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

Ohhh you are in for a surprise. Worse than feminazis. However my link to it is wrong😥 but you can try the same keywords and it will appear.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy

an example of one of her posts is When men have sex with multiple women, their dicks get smaller until eventually the jizz just falls out. When women have sex with multiple men, their vaginas grow stronger. It’s science.

📷F

[–]itsalexcl6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Ya I saw how bad it was. But do men care about such things.... NO.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

she'd be lucky to get a guy who'd date her whether he slept with 1 girl before her or 15 girls before her

[–]EdenNeedsANap0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That’s a shitpost tho

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

wdym?

[–]EdenNeedsANap0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It’s a satirical joke post, I’ve seen it all over the Internet

[–]Colombian-mra0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The first one is bs the second one is partly true, vaginas get wider

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Actually it temporary gets wider. That's what I last heard. Maybe I need to do more personal research.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

what is it exactly, I looked at her profile

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Have you ever gone to r/gendercritical?

How is that sub still around?

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

the description of it should be "I'm not transphobic and misandrist, I'm just gender critical"

[–]dirgros1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminists are turds. TERFs are particularly stinky turds.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

terfs are the worst

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

is that person a member of that sub?

[–]dirgros10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminists assume that they speak for all females when, in fact, they are actually a minority.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

true

[–]hackableyou5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

“Womb envy”? What a lame term. Penis envy is such a dumb theory and womb envy is even worse.

[–]Colombian-mra6 points7 points  (9 children) | Copy

Penis envy works for feminists

[–]Jakeybaby1254 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Especially male feminists or, as we like to call them, sub-men

[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

male feminists have a penis though

[–]Jakeybaby1254 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don't have a spine to back it up though

[–]Rozycka123[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

i sometimes tell those lesbian terfs they have penis envy

[–]dirgros2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

They really, desperately want to be men. It irks them no end that they aren’t.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I find it ironic that they hate men with a passion, yet they are attracted to the same gender as most men, don’t wear makeup, and dress in men’s clothing, it’s like they’re projecting

[–]dirgros1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Very much so. They really envy masculinity. They don’t want men to have it.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

i don't even think they're actually lesbians, i think they're just afraid of men. real lesbians don't bitch and whine about men that much.

[–]dirgros1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You may be right. I do see radical feminism as being driven by envy of men and male capacity.

What I find fascinating is how feminists want entry into every male dominated field, except for ones that are strenuous, dirty, and dangerous like mining, or building construction, or garbage collection. Equality clearly means that only men should do the dirty work.

[–]thepubclosesin5hours4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

I get that 😂 I think it's because my name has pub in the title. Because apparently women don't belong in pubs.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

its dumb how feminists on this site assume we're men by default when a fair amount of us are women

[–]thepubclosesin5hours2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It says a lot about feminists 😂

[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

they assume everyone who disagrees with them is a straight white man

[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

when in reality i'm a bi woman and my on and off boyfriend is non white and we're both anti feminists

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

i just saw that she said it to you not me

[–]Maleoppressor3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

My favorite anti-feminist blog is run by a woman. She is really good too, always citing sources in her posts.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

one of my favorite anti feminist youtubers is shoeonhead

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's as if they assume all women have to be as miserable as them

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you know the saying

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

misery wants company

[–]username21362 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

They can’t seem to wrap their heads around why a woman would ever dare to pass up an effort for more power to corrupt herself with even though that isn’t what they say their goal is.

[–]mellainadiba2 points3 points  (55 children) | Copy

Feel free to edit and share:

  1. Antifeminism has absoluely nothing to do with being anti womens rights in anyway. Good since many of its members, and virtually all of its most prominent activists (TV, books, youtube, media) are female
  2. In general, anti feminists are critical of feminism (not all types, I will get to that). We have absolutely no interest or even believe in the concept of making someone not a feminst or stopping them doing what they want in any other way than honest respectul debate in a free and open soceity, where they can then decide what to do. Some Feminsts on the other hand routinely use strong tactics and even violence to try and stop people from even critisicing them. THAT IS NOT US.
  3. Womens rights and feminism are two differnt things. The latter is an idealogy. To not be or to oppose femininsm is to reject the ideology. It has nothing to do with rejecting womens rights.
  4. Feminsim as part of its maipulation and distortion has tried to completly make itself synonymous with womens rights, so those that even are ambivalen towards i t let alone critisice or oppose it are misgonysts who hate women and are opposed to womens rights. With this manipulation , feminsm has tried to make itself free from external critisicm. Something not compatible with modern free society and something particularly wrong as feminism is political and makes poltical decisions.... and we are in a democracy. Imagin not being allowed to critiscicse a political party? It is also uterly false. It doesnt even make sense opposition to feminism is misogony or against womens rights either as feminism has many branches, many of which utterly oppose each other, even to the point of violence.

Christinaty does not have a monoply on morality and you cannot say some has no morality because they arent a christian.

5) Anti feminism is diverse. Almost all will have a particular issue with modern mainstream feminism. This is not unqiue. Many, many feminsits themselves and even many actual feminst movements are highly critical of modern feminism for THE EXACT SAME REASONS your average anti feminst is.... e.g. lack of free speech, huge censorship (kicking out those with even slightly differing views to group think) , echochamber, victim mentality, lack of female agency e.g. everything is the fault of patriachy, women have no power and are opressed and any bad she does is not her fault, rampant man hatred, hypocrisy.

6) It is not my place to tell people what to do or what to be. I am entitled to debate them though in a free society especially if they are a political movement that changes the law (drastically) and affects public policy. Generally almost all feminism is bad as it falls into the ills discussed. As said there are some types of feminis, which have littlte to no actual power who are against those too. If you are going to be a feminist I'd rather you be one of them (rather, im not telling you what to do) but ultiamtely I think they all have problems. Could feminism save itself? Hmmm yeah I suppose, but maybe its time to leave something which has become so toxic.

meme:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mramemes/comments/gcov4/badass_lawyer_lays_down_the_truth/

This website, is NOT antifeminist, it is simply non-feminist, it will answer all of your questions:

https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/08/06/a-non-feminist-faq/

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[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

what a strawman lol, how can they say anti feminist men hate women yet also envy women?

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (51 children) | Copy

Exactly, feminism and believing in equality between men and women are not mutually exclusive

[–]Chris_Bear-1 points0 points  (50 children) | Copy

feminism is about equality for men and women, it's what it's about

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (49 children) | Copy

not anymore, now women have the right to vote, right to work, right to drive, right to own property so what are they fighting for?

[–]Chris_Bear-1 points0 points  (48 children) | Copy

Because once you can vote, work, drive and own a home that's all the equality anyone needs?

Granted they are massive steps but that didn't mean there isn't more work to be done. So a list of inequalities that still need to be resolved. (In no particular order, and non exhaustive)

1) pay inequality 2) the number of laws that regulate women's bodies 3) the different standards of behaviour for men and women 4) uniform policies that police women's bodies rather than men's behaviour 5) the assumption that a woman is more likely to be lying about a sexual assault that a man is to have committed it (especially when the evidence is clearly the other way) 6) the assumption that in a breakup the kids are better placed with the mother 7) how women are often ignored in meetings but when a man says the same thing they are listened to. 8) the fact that a woman's.clothing and behaviour can be used as evidence in a rape case 9) the fact that most medication is nit tested on how it impacts women, but just men. Including some medication that is exclusively for women 10) the fact that medically we know a lot more about mens bodies than women's 11) lack of female representation in politics 13) lack of female representation in the board room 14) the idea that some jobs are just more suited to men and some to women 15) the fact that women make up the majority of domestic violence victims 16) the fact that men represent the majority of deaths from crime 17) the fact that men represent the majority of deaths at work 18) the fact that men are a bigger threat to women that heart attacks 19) everything about toxic masculinity that stops men engaging with their emotions 20) the idea that 2 men being close and emotional is somehow "gay" 21) the assumption that all women are a bit gay but men aren't 22) the whole concept of a "real man" or "real woman" 23) the phrase "man up" 24) everything that is wrong with how trans mean and trans women get treated right now 25) lack if access to judgement free abortions

So that's just a quick 25 inequality issues affecting mean and women that feminists (in general, obviously I can't speak for us all) are still working to improve.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the wage gap is a myth, wanna make the same amount as a man? be a doctor or a lawyer instead of a hair stylist.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

and what do you mean by laws that regulate womens bodies? there are no such laws that prevent women from getting tattoos or piercings

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (45 children) | Copy

> lack of access to judgment free abortions

women who kill innocent babies deserve to be judged, die mad about it

[–]Chris_Bear-1 points0 points  (44 children) | Copy

If you are anti choice and anti freedom we probably aren't going to agree on much.

The laws that regulate women's bodies are the ones that block access to contraception, and the ones that block access to safe abortions.

And since every credible study has shown that there is a significant wage gap we can't really discuss it if you are just going to ignore something proven time and time again.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (42 children) | Copy

how am i anti freedom? youre just making strawman arguments now.

[–]Chris_Bear-1 points0 points  (41 children) | Copy

It very much came across as you were against people having the freedom to choose to have an abortion. That's anti freedom

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

anti freedom to murder someone ≠ anti freedom. if you like freedom so much then why don't you support freedom for the innocent baby to live?

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (39 children) | Copy

freedom for an innocent baby > "freedom" for a selfish woman who wants to kill that innocent baby

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

if a woman doesnt want a baby she can use birth control or put the baby up for adoption, or just not have sex in the first place

[–]Radikost1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s funny how feminists and other SJWs are becoming -ist to whatever they fight for and going back the full circle.

Also I know who you are talking about OP. May I call her/him/whatever out so she can try and argue about her BS beliefs?

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

sure

[–]Radikost1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks. Hey u/psychic_rosa Come here and enlighten us!

[–]thepubclosesin5hours1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The best way to deal with these people is to herald their stupidity. Shun, shame and ridicule. It's what society does with all extremists. Plus, these people are easily offended, which makes our job much less arduous.

[–]beniesixx981 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

Wait is that the same one I went off on (again sorry that kinda thing pisses me off)

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

If you mean u/psychic_rosa then yeah

[–]psychic_rosa-2 points-1 points  (10 children) | Copy

what do you want from me, attention-from-men starved whore?

oh, look, males validated you and you collected some good post/comment karma. you happy?

you did good. atta boi!

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was just asking if he was talking about you

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

I don’t need validation from men, I just like to call out dumb feminists like you

[–]psychic_rosa-2 points-1 points  (7 children) | Copy

...on a male-dominated sub.

kissing males' assess won't get you far, rozy

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[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Thanks for standing up for me

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[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

If someone disables comments on their post, they’re a pussy

[–]Rozycka123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m not kissing males asses thought, I’m sorry you can’t accept not all women are as dumb and misandrist as you

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you'd be surprised how many women are here

[–]Chris_Bear1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I have just had a run in with the same person and she's not a feminist and being anti her attitude and ideas does not make you anti feminist. Since feminism is about equality for all the bullshit exclusionary crap she goes on about has nothing to do with feminism whatever she tries to call it.

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

shes a misandrist

[–]Chris_Bear0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That is part of it but she's also a swerf and a terf

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

im not surprised

[–]Ronnattt1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not only do I get mistaken as a man in real life but now also on Reddit. I’m pretty sure I got mistaken as a man on ask feminists. I wasn’t even disagreeing with them (I do though) I was just asking a pretty innocent question

[–]Rozycka123[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you a tomboy?

[–]Ronnattt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, but honestly I dint even know how I get mistaken as a man. I’m 5ft2 and very little. I think it’s more my face.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

pro tip: stop caring about what fucking idiots think about you

[–]Redditdude9292-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

The same way Anti-Feminists assume I'm a women when I disagree with one of their opinions?

[–]Rozycka123[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well I don’t

[–]Redditdude92920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean thanks, but a lot of anti-feminists literally called me Karen and assumed I was a women/liberal because I said that Westworld S3 wasn't feminist propaganda on a video saying WW S3 was feminist propaganda.



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