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This is why I loathe feminism.

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Title This is why I loathe feminism.
Author Hired_By_Fish
Upvotes 228
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Date 09 May 2020 05:11 PM UTC (6 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/706535
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/ggjati/this_is_why_i_loathe_feminism/
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[–]bio-mech57 points58 points  (5 children) | Copy

I mean, technically she’s not wrong.

If every woman on the planet were to stop giving birth to males “the patriarchy” would die off in a single generation.

As would all of humanity. But let’s not argue about the trivial things.

[–]Drayelya21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

A generation is what, 25 years? So at most 50 years and humanity goes extinct. Sounds like a great plan to defeat the “patriarchy”. I wonder when women will figure out that the people “for them” are the real sexists.

[–]Heterodynist7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Seriously, who do you think created the Patriarchy?! Are we really buying the grand lie that women didn’t originally support the Patriarchy in every way, shape, and form?! I’m tired of the old lie being told eternally that one sex somehow imposed its will on another. Women really were overcome by men’s “will” to assert dominance?!

Case and point: Do you know who performs most female circumcisions in places that still carry out that practice?! -It’s women performing it, or else women insisting it be carried out by men. What is female circumcision about if not control?! Why would women FORCE it on other women?! How in the world do we all foolishly fall for the lie that the majority of ADULTS on Earth (significantly more women than men, because they live longer) were overcome by the evils of our manly ways, to force them to be subjected to our Patriarchal system?!

We didn’t do this. We can’t take credit for it. Not only was it millennia before our lives began, but it wasn’t men alone who did it. The patriarchy was invented as a way to control populations from straying from the nuclear family concept. Matriarchal society places so little emphasis on the father of a child, that he rarely stays around to raise the child. In many Native American matriarchal societies the mother’s older brother became the de facto “father” of the children she had. Her children were considered her property, so they essentially didn’t have fathers.

Men and women determined together this was a poor system for raising the next generation. We need to actually consult our human history. Patriarchy didn’t get created for the purpose of enslaving women. Moreover, it has never resulted in that being its main effect.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Adding on to what you said.

one sex somehow imposed its will on another.

This may not be true. But what is true is that one race somehow imposes its will on another.

Think of africans, and native Americans. They had a real struggle. It's not like they said "yes sell me to someone, so I can work for free".

They were literally forced to do so. Where women on the other hand. Mostly Got married by choice. Had kids by choice. And didn't have to work. They had all the power to say no to something they didn't want. Im also pretty sure that if women wanted to work they could've.

If you think about it women started working when there was a war, and men weren't working. I'm not sure of the exact facts of how it started, but I'm sure it wasn't like they had to struggle to get there.

[–]pandolfio2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

The reason they didn't work was not because they were not allowed to, but because it was f*cking hard to work. At that time it entailed breaking your back in the fields, risking your life hunting or fighting for your families freedom, or poisoning your lungs in mines, and dying at 45y old. Women were saved from all this, and sure, the price to pay to have a man kill themselves by thousand cuts every day, was that you'd listen to what they have to say.

It's only in the 20th century, when jobs in comfy offices with heating or air-conditioning started to exist, that, all of a sudden it's so glamorous to go to work. You still don't see many of them applying for jobs as garbage collectors or on oil rigs.

I think one of the biggest misunderstanding of the patriarchy is that people believe it was then like current days patriarchies are (e.g. in Muslim countries). But these patriarchies are hypocritical, because the men enjoy all the benefits of the past (i.e. treating women like belongings) without paying the price (i.e. facing the hardship that existed centuries ago). In some sense, that kind of patriarchy with unfair advantages to men, is a bit of a mirror image of today's feminism in the Western world, with unfair advantages to women.

[–]gimpgirl5552 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think one of the biggest misunderstanding of the patriarchy is that people believe it was then like current days patriarchies are (e.g. in Muslim countries). But these patriarchies are hypocritical, because the men enjoy all the benefits of the past (i.e. treating women like belongings) without paying the price (i.e. facing the hardship that existed centuries ago).

Say what now? You realize muslimas don't have to work right? Imagine if we had a society where women did all the work and men got to stay home and chill all day. Imagine men bitching about that being oppressive.

[–]dirgros61 points62 points  (3 children) | Copy

I can’t believe that a cunt can be this stupid. Cunts normally have room-temperature IQs, but this bitch doesn’t score much above zero.

[–]BASSKORN23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Their stupidity is really scary sometimes. I'm questioning myself if they are actual human beings ?

[–]dirgros17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

They’re a sub-species, about as intelligent as spider monkeys.

[–]JosephND14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hetero women support the patriarchy by... *shuffles index cards*

Birthing men.

[–]username213623 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy

None of what this person said made any sense. Either they are saying that we need to find a way to prevent males from ever being born or there is no way that women are ever going to get out of this “patriarchy”. I just lost 2 IQ points from reading that.

[–]isthisalegalusername11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

If it’s any consolation, you lost more IQ than she had to begin with.

[–]username21361 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s fair.

[–]casteliacitysax11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

You literally cannot choose what gender your baby can be

[–]-kousor15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

hides knife

we don't talk about details

[–]DangerousRiver93 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea they can though, by aborting right after they find out it’s a male.

[–]Tensionheadache119 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I really tried for a long time to at least empathize with feminists, but a few years ago this Facebook group that was created for a totally legit real rape case, this woman said “any mother that allows her son to be an athlete, especially football, is perpetuating rape culture.” Both my boys were football players, and people were agreeing with her and attacking me. I said fuck you all. It’s dangerous ideology

[–]Mandalina888 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I mean, yeah she isn't wrong. If there is no humanity, there is no patriarchy either

[–]yugeyy10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't understand why feminists blames the patriarchy, it doesn't exist.

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Me looz brane sell reed this.

[–]Drayelya7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh God! Someone get this man an article with facts and stats! We’re losing him! Prepare the brain cell regenerator!

[–]Lui_Le_Diamond6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men bad reeeeeeeeeeee

[–]some1thing110 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fortunately the further left you go the lower the birth rate.

[–]nacho-chonky5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn I knew feminists hate men but this is also hating women just because they give birth to men... is feminism about just trying to be the biggest sexist in the world?

[–]empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It would give the remaining males significant appeal. A true patriarchy.

[–]baronmad2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So she is advocating for less freedom for women, and that will give women more freedom. Yeah im not sure about that whole proposition it sounds somewhat incoherant to me.

[–]QS262 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That chick is retarded no cap.

[–]DukDucc2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men are bad because they shuffles cards exist

[–]throwaway423789102 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She’s literally advocating for gender based genocide.

[–]itsalexcl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did she just tell women what they should do with their bodies....??

[–]beniesixx983 points4 points  (20 children) | Copy

Why do the feminazis hate men i don't understand it

[–]DangerousRiver9-3 points-2 points  (19 children) | Copy

[–]All_Heil_Fascism2 points3 points  (18 children) | Copy

Wage gap has been debunked so many times. At this point only a retarded baboon would bring up that argument

[–]DangerousRiver9-3 points-2 points  (17 children) | Copy

You clearly didn’t read the article 🙄

[–]AlexB-_-2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy

You clearly don't understand the article or the statistics involved... Men and women have been paid the same, at least in western countries for like 45 years now and it's illegal to lay a woman less for doing the same job as man. The wage gap exists because women CHOOSE to work part time to look after their families and CHOOSE less dangerous jobs than men.

[–]DangerousRiver9-3 points-2 points  (15 children) | Copy

Right because everyone always follows the law, what kind of fairy tale do you think you live in? You think the dangerous jobs are the high paying jobs? 😂😂 Dont tell me you’re that dense.

[–]AlexB-_-1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy

So yes you literally do get "danger money". For instance working on oil rigs is extremely dangerous and extremely well paid. Also, if someone is not following the law and is paying a woman less than a man for the same job they will be prosecuted?

You shouldn't be so condescending when you really obviously have not read around the subject you are talking about.

[–]DangerousRiver9-1 points0 points  (13 children) | Copy

You and I are from two different worlds if you think 50,000 a year is good money. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to prove that in court? Retaliation is also illegal, yet it happens all the time in the work place. You’re being willfully obtuse.

The article I linked is about the global gender index gap, not the wage gap, which is how I know you didn’t read it. And you wonder why I’m condescending 😂😂

[–]AlexB-_-0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

You must be seriously entitled if you think 50,000 a year is not good money...

https://www.gu.se/english/research/news-detail//personality-differences-between-the-sexes-are-largest-in-the-most-gender-equal-countries.cid1587162

Just because there is a difference between the genders does not mean it has been enforced.. The most egalitarian countries have bigger differences between the sexes because men and women make different choices. It is not forced on them it is biological. Women tend to dominate in healthcare and men tend to be more prevalent in engineering for example.

Trying to enforce equality of outcome is beyond ridiculous and completely irrational when countries with the greatest equality of opportunity show that more freedom increases the differences between genders.

[–]DangerousRiver9-1 points0 points  (11 children) | Copy

Lmao it’s not good money. 50,000 is considered lower middle class. I made more than that starting right out of college. It’s a very average salary. Most dangerous jobs are working class jobs with average salaries. Even nurses make more than that lol.

But good I’m glad in response to my factual article (which touched on multiple global issues) you gave me a source full of theories based on self reports and no mention of any relevance to the workplace, so that stretch you made from your article to healthcare and engineering is a stretch you made all by yourself there buddy.

“A possible explanation is that people in more progressive and equal countries have a greater opportunity to express inherent biological differences. Another theory is that people in progressive countries have a greater desire to express differences in their identity through their gender,” says Petri Kajnoius, Associate Professor in Psychology and Behavioral Measurements. A combination of social role theory and evolutionary perspectives may ultimately be needed to explain these findings.” 😂😂

[–]Heterodynist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, the real answer to the “crisis” of male existence, is genocide. How else can this scourge be wiped from the face of the Earth?!

[–]ljamtheactivist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s no such thing as a patriarchy

[–]Jay-xo21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pink-pilled. They are a different bread of feminism. They are if Hitler and Stalin had babies, they are the extremist feminists and oh boy is it something interesting.

[–]Ralph_Marbler0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow the fucking misandry.

[–]papa_maize0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How the fuck is this cunt even alive? There won’t be 3 generations if there were no men nor women. What the fuck



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