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Title Badass Lawyer lays down the truth
Author mellainadiba
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Date 03 May 2020 11:11 AM UTC (5 months ago)
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[–]TraditionalCoffee35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy

Wow that is beautifully said.

[–]Men-Are-Human17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think part of the issue is the feminists know they are lying, so they get angry when you ask a simple question.

[–]vicsj20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy

They stopped wanting equality loooong ago

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They fucked up their own movement

[–]MingSushi15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

So true. I’ve never seen a more angry and violent bunch in my life. They’ll learn that I’m a black woman and will just try to find every way possible to find some evidence I’m not or they’ll just start calling me names (they deem sexist) and threatening me or even wishing horrible things on me like rape, miscarriage or say “You should’ve been aborted”

[–]mellainadiba[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Feminism more than anything is pro-feminist (keeping the whole industry alive, the authors book sales, the journalists in jobs, the funding for charities etc) Not pro woman. Pro feminist. Any benefit to women, is secondary. Of course it is anti-man but more so than anything it is anti- anybody who is not a feminist! and will get those people no platform them, discredit them, defund them, abuse the crap out of them with death threats, rape threats, calls etc. I was a feminist for a long time and I was deluded as fuck and caught up in that stupid mentality

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is disgusting, every woman who don’t call themselves feminists are probably in fact more in favor of equality then they are

[–]GDLGNzki6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Lol I got banned from r/feminism by putting up a valid argument

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I got tag as antagonistic on one of their sub 😂

It’s easier then to actually debate

[–]AudiTech2261 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This literally just happened to me yesterday lol. They posted something that was factually incorrect, so I posted something in response that WAS factually correct with legitimate sources to back it linked and immediately got banned and the comment deleted, but not before their echo chamber took hold and began convincing each other that the facts I posted were incorrect somehow despite being ya know... FACTS and backed by empirical evidence from a legitimate government source but ya know... when have the facts ever been right?

[–]beniesixx985 points6 points  (27 children) | Copy

And any good feminist that are left so awful about it , like they completely forgotten what it was supposed to mean. Smh I don't get it how did we go from "hey let's be equal " to "I want to be the most powerful" I don't get it

[–]GDLGNzki3 points4 points  (25 children) | Copy

This is exactly what I tried to say, but they kicked for making an “uneducated argument”

[–]beniesixx982 points3 points  (24 children) | Copy

But its not , I swear the feminazis took over and ruined everything , I can't even support stay at home moms without one of them saying I'm an asshole. They lost that meaning of what our great grandmas fought for .

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (23 children) | Copy

I get your point, but didn't our great grandma's fight to not have to be a stay at home mom, or just to get the choice? I may be wrong, but I don't think Rosie the Riveter was out singing "clean up clean up everybody everywhere"

[–]beniesixx981 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Like , these women took something that was supposed to be good and ruined it . And the sense of entitlement in these women is beyond anything else , like I saw a post the other day talking about a girl had drowned because she was messing around with voodoo stuff. And some of the feminazis went nuts , because a man who grew up around it said that if you don't have it in your blood and you haven't been taught by the elders you don't mess with it. They cussed him out saying he was sexist and he shouldn't tell people what to do . Its beyond stupid if u ask me.

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Well to me that sort of sounds like Darwin at work. As for feminazis I can't speak to them as a group. I can't say I've heard of them before, is that what alt-right feminists are called? Or is it just a title for belligerent or extremist general feminists?

But even in your example, what a few people do or say (especially on the internet) shouldn't ever be generalized to the entire group of people, unless maybe that group is actually an organization with recognized leadership who are announcing their stances. The reaction the people in your story had does seem over-the-top and a baseless attack against someone trying to help, but we can recognize it as a baseless attack so people like that lose their voice. We shouldn't let that keep us from hearing everyone's side still, that's the only way we're ever going to fix shit or live together peacefully, even if it sucks to hear people out when they don't seem to want to do the same.

[–]Lord-Catfish0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Feminazis are exactly what it says on the box. Basically, imagine Hitler's ideologies, but replace the Aryans with Women and Jews with men, and there you go.

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So they are alt-right feminists? Or just feminists that hate men? If someone's only platform is "I hate or want to kill men" then they can hardly be labeled a "feminist". Anyone who pushes an ideology of murder and mayhem should not be given the platform to speak, or else it's on the people providing that platform. But at the same time it would be ignorant to say that all feminists fall into this "feminazi" category or hate men, as I and I'm sure many others here know of plenty self-described feminists who are married with children. There should be no conflict between feminist goals and men, just as there should be no conflict between men's rights goals and women. But there always is, it's as if the opposing side would rather their adjacent activists get nothing, rather than both share in something. If men and women worked together just for our "rights" then we wouldn't have any of these bullshit problems today, and most of us would have achieved these "rights" we so seem to desire.

[–]Lord-Catfish1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just feminists who hate men.

[–]FEMMEPO2020-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hitler was a scrote and murdered millions of people.Femenist say words and facts and yet you are still alive.NO COMPARRISON .YOU ARE A MYSOGONYST

[–]Lord-Catfish0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cry me a river

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy

Well in that time women were mainly stay at home , and wasn't allowed to have jobs , let alone have credit cards without a husbands or male family members signature. But they were fighting to have the choice and the chance to prove we aren't a helpless princess , as my great grandma would say . But most feminazis don't want to hear that . And it shocks me that because of these women think motherhood is just another way to trap a woman in the house . Its sicking , like yeah I'm a pro choice person to a degree , but unless they have a really good reason I think abortion should be last choice. And I get hell for that too .

[–]Doc-Engineer1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

No I agree with you on both counts. People that want to fight to better their or others existence through policy, I say all the better. People who claim to do this as a guise while they actually belittle and attack others without provocation or cause, I have no sympathy for. Pro choice is a whole other thing. In my opinion the government, the church, your neighbor, has just as much of a right to tell you how to handle a pregnancy as they do how to make a sandwich. It's not their life or their preferences or their ideals, and pushing all those on a hapless bystander because you disagree with theirs is not what America stands for. The government should know better (especially considering the founding fathers warned us to steer clear of mixing church and state in a religious tolerant society), but they listen to the idiot masses and the rich religious zealots and follow the leader. Some government.

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Well take for prime example gun girl she is beyond stupid but she has an amazing following. She wants to revoke the 19th Amendment but gets pissed when Victims say that want gun control.

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

There is a woman who doesn't believe women deserve the right to vote, honestly? That sounds like a publicity stunt. I will have to look into her. I don't disagree that there are some pristine examples of classless stupidity in our world today, especially with the internet cliques and bubbles that are forming around these outlier groups, "influencers", "incels", "feminazis" (new one), etc.. But just because one kid who labels himself an incel commits some act of terrorism doesn't mean that all self-labeled incels are terrorists. Many are losers in the basement stereotype to a T. Many are angry at life circumstances but otherwise perfectly normal. Others still are working with disabilities. I know you get the point so I'm just rambling now, I just feel like everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt and the chance to speak. How they decide to use that chance will tell me all I need to know, I just wish others could exercise sound judgement occasionally as well (gun girl).

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well a feminazi is slag for sex suprmeist and they are why the whole movement changed , they believe they are better then the other sex , and they are very closed minded . They don't recognize trans women at all . And alot of them are very biphobic and panphobic , like ive been called by these same women that I was a fake dyke , im just confused etc. and been called a woman hater just because I'm with my fiance.

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I would ignore those people, as I seriously doubt they speak for the group, or that said group would even want to entertain that idea. I honestly have not heard of feminists who are against trans, so I'm guessing the "feminazis" term falls under the umbrella of conservative feminists, and not the other? What reason could someone give for your being a woman hater just because you have a fiance?

By the way, I looked into gun girl. While incredibly stupid, it sounds like the quote you referred to with the 19th amendment was her saying "I would be willing to give up women's right to vote if it meant nobody would try to take my right to bear arms", which, while I agree is obnoxiously stupid, is hardly her taking the stance that woman should not have civil rights. She literally makes her millions with controversy, so by you and others going on Reddit and starting a chorus about this girl's stupidity, she gets more viewers (like myself yesterday) which results in more funding for her show, more supporters of the people who agree once they do find her, and a platform to keep spreading her nation-damaging rhetoric. She doesn't care what we call her or tell her, she is a human piece of garbage who would rather sell out her entire society for a quick buck than try her hand at an honest days' work. And just like Trump, as long as she gets publicity, good or bad, she will have the money and power. Immature children like that deserve the mature parent response.. a timeout where we all ignore them. If her viewership suddenly went to zero overnight with everyone commenting as they leave "you don't deserve to have an audience or platform with views like this, I will not be back", she would both get the message that the world will no longer tolerate assholery for the modicum of amusement that follows, and that people don't actually agree with her selfish opinions and beliefs.

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

I agree with you. BTW, yes they needed a signature of a man, but remember the man was LEGALLY responsible for the debts, so in THAT situation thats fair. Obviously what we have now is much better. But what I mean is those fewer rights came with far fewer responsibilities. And remember 90% of men could not vote too and 1% of men still opened everything!! Not disagreeing with you at all on the less rights and fighting for them, I just mean it is more complex than the one way picture painted... oh and course yes a lot of negative sterotypes where present about what women could do, how capable they were... obviously very bad... but did have the advantage of women and children first as a result and they did not go to war the coal mines. And of course many women fought very bravely to get rid of those gender sterotypes and to gain access to those rights.

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep exactly

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

And with the crazy feminazis , they are trying to just get rid of mens rights for god knows what . They took a movement and turned it upside down because they think being equal isn't a good thing , which I never understood, but I believe that there's still good in feminism when you take away the crazy ones

[–]mellainadiba[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I love it , she was so spot on . Thank you I want to steal those to use against the feminazis

[–]mellainadiba[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Please do and share widely. Same with anything I post, edit it as you please.

[–]beniesixx980 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Because they really don't get that it isn't just about women its about every one

[–]FEMMEPO20200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

For sure you are right

[–]Doc-Engineer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is over a month old..

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You nailed it

[–]chambertlo3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

My sister has been ruined by feminism, and instead of just learning to have a conversation like an adult, she gets up and walks away from any conversation that doesn’t go her way. It’s sickening to see otherwise reasonable people act so fucking childish. But that’s feminism for you; women who have never grown up into adulthood and project their insecurities by not contributing anything of value to society, and running away from any opinion their disagree with.

I have yet to meet a feminist with an educated opinion.

[–]mellainadiba[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

standard I don't have an argument or want to hear you but your just wrong

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’ve met some, but they usually conflicted about calling themselves feminists

[–]I_Fucking_Love_Traps1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

lmao pickmemaxxing

/s

[–]Gordop0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ideologically possessed. Both succinct and an accurate description of feminists. I'm going to start using that.

[–]Lickiecat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Let them eat their own.

So that the world may see them for the monsters they truly are.

[–]Verbalicedtea0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What if this whole movement was a conspiracy. Like what if the people at the top of feminism don't even believe the shit they sell they just use women who are gullible as pawns in their sick game. The goal is to gain control of young minds and lead an army of people who follow their leadership blindly. Or what if this whole thing was started by companies so they can profit off these weird ideologies. This is just a thought I don't believe this to be the case lol, it's just one of my hits blunt moments.🤣

[–]EightBitEmi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This.

[–]mel_mel_mel_mel_mel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

+1 No other way of putting it

I tried to have a respectful conversation on the askfeminists sub

Basically every post from me was downvoted as soon as posted and every post from feminists was upvoted. Even when some said the same thing I was downvoted for.

Some people you just can’t talk to

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Check the link below for another woman out for another SAVAGE take down of feminism. This is truly beautiful, in a few words, she destroys feminism:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gdytm9/this_woman_below_comment_could_not_have_debunked/

I am actually looking for more content from her, if I cant find it

[–]maria_ines_21_-1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy

She says feminists as if we are all the same, we are not, and I can assure to you, a small minority thinks like this, not all feminists

[–]mellainadiba[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Or on campus. And again if youre not like this, great, but you are the quietest, tiniest voice and hold no power, feminist is run by these peopel:

There was a proposal at Simon Fraser University (near Vancouver) to open up a men's centre on campus to address issues like suicide, drug/alcohol addiction, and negative stereotypes. The women's centre, which already existed, opposed this. They argued that a men's centre is not needed because the men's centre is already "everywhere else" (even though those issues aren't being addressed "everywhere else"). The alternative they proposed was a "male allies project" to "bring self-identified men together to talk about masculinity and its harmful effects"

.A student at Durham University in England, affected by the suicide of a close male friend, tried to open up the Durham University Male Human Rights Society: "[i]t’s incredible how much stigma there is against male weakness. Men’s issues are deemed unimportant, so I decided to start a society". The idea was rejected by the Societies Committee as it was deemed "controversial". He was told he could only have a men's group as a branch of the Feminist Society group on campus, ironically, the feminsits group states that they do not talk about men issues [9].

In 2015, the University of York in the U.K. announced its intention to observe International Men's Day, noting that they are "also aware of some of the specific issues faced by men", including under-representation of (and bias against) men in various areas of the university (such as academic staff appointments, professional support services, and support staff in academic departments) [11]. This inspired a torrent of criticism, including an open letter to the university claiming that a day to celebrate men's issues "does not combat inequality, but merely amplifies existing, structurally imposed, inequalities". The university responded by going back on its plans to observe International Men's Day and affirming that "the main focus of gender equality work should continue to be on the inequalities faced by women". In contrast, the University of York's observation of International Women's Day a few months earlier was a week long affair with more than 100 events [12].

[1].Author Warren Farrell went to give a talk on the boys' crisis (boys dropping out of school and committing suicide at higher rates) at the University of Toronto, but he was opposed by protesters who "barricaded the doors, harassed attendees, pulled fire alarms, chanted curses at speakers and more". Opposition included leaders in the student union [2]

[3].Three students (one man and two women) at Ryerson University (also in Toronto) decided to start a club dedicated to men's issues. They were blocked by the Ryerson Students' Union, which associated the men's issues club with supposed "anti-women's rights groups" and called the idea that it's even possible to be sexist against men an "oppressive concept" [4]. The student union also passed a motion saying that it rejects "Groups, meetings events or initiatives [that] negate the need to centre women’s voices in the struggle for gender equity" (while ironically saying that women's issues "have historically and continue to today to be silenced") [5].J

anice Fiamengo, a professor at the University of Ottawa, was giving a public lecture on men's issues. She was interrupted by a group of students shouting, blasting horns, and pulling the fire alarm [6].At Oberlin College in Ohio, various students had invited equity feminist Christina Hoff Sommers (known for her individualist/libertarian perspective on gender) to give a talk on men's issues. Activists hung up posters identifying those who invited her (by their full names) as "supporters of rape culture" [7] [

At Saint Paul University (part of the University of Ottawa) on September 24th, 2015, journalist Cathy Young gave a talk on gender politics on university campuses, GamerGate, the tendency to neglect men's issues in society, and the focus on the victimization of women (in the areas of sexual violence and cyberbullying). She was met by masked protesters who called her "rape apologist scum" and interrupted the event by pulling the fire alarm [10].

opposing mens issues in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2E5aQ7yb8

blocking mens rights:

http://archive.is/AWSEN

tGreat that you care. But this is what the world ACTUALLY does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD3PqQfwgaY".

[–]maria_ines_21_-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Feminism is about the equality of genders, the goal is not to bring men down, but rise women up, if they are bringing men down then, yes, I don't think they should be calling themselves feminists, because it creates the image that all feminists hate men, not true

[–]mellainadiba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you actually read the list? The 2nd one was specifically feminist LEADERS and ORGANISATIONS only not random feminists... that was deliberate, the second one was campus feminist.... a movement is its leaders not random people on the internet like you. If that is what you claim then I can just as well point you towards pink pill and the women who want to literally (not trolling) kill all men or put them in concentration camps or gender critical or something

So no I reject your definition of feminism, for the simple fact that your leaders, academics, and mainstream media (articles getting over 5,000,000 views each) don't espouse what you claim.

It is up to you, the supposed moderates to get to the top of feminism, because right not you literally mean nothing, and youre voice is the tiniest pip squeak.

Feminism is a cult, full of academic fraud, a complete misspelling of history and more to the point hate... much of it do wit money and interests rather than feminist idealogy purely, I give you that, e.g. Feminise charity for DV Refuge the CEO is on 500,000 a year and has 200 staff, no wonder they make stuff up and do stuff even though they know it harms even women, if they need the money to keep their status... and it works 98.3 DV funding in female.... they even actively campaign against mens DV that 1.7% is just too much money!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Egalitarianism/comments/gec8io/highly_informative_we_urgently_need_to_reform_the/

[–]mellainadiba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminism 101 1) Take an issue that affects both sexes 2) Ignore the men and play it as a WOMEN ONLY problem. 3) Project it as a problem that affects all women. 4) Blame men and/or patriarchy and/or toxic masculinity and make sure women are not seen as part of the problem.
5) Legislate gendered laws and policies (but gendered ONLY towards women) 6) Publicise the problem as if it is everywhere and thereby persuade the government to hand over vast amounts of funding. 7) Advertise for "victims." more numbers = more funding. Shelters/ hotlines/ centres/ gendered laws are all good... trying to solve the problem so no more victims... NO NO NO!

That is feminism in power right now. That is feminism on campus. That is feminism in the media. But, but, no Im a feminist and Im not like that? Your voice is the tiniest one, a pipsqueak. As I said, that is feminism in power right now. That is feminism on campus. That is feminism in the media. Don't like it change it instead of replying on here about what a good feminist you are and not like that

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

If you think otherwise, great. However, you are tiniest, quietest voice and you hold no power in feminism. Feminist in power:

So what you're saying is that you, a commenter using a username on an internet forum are the true feminist, and the feminists actually responsible for changing the laws, writing the academic theory, teaching the courses, influencing the public policies, and the massive, well-funded feminist organizations with thousands and thousands of members all of whom call themselves feminists... they are not "real feminists".

You're not the director of the Feminist Majority Foundation and editor of Ms. Magazine, Katherine Spillar, who said of domestic violence: "Well, that's just a clean-up word for wife-beating," and went on to add that regarding male victims of dating violence, "we know it's not girls beating up boys, it's boys beating up girls."

You're not Jan Reimer, former mayor of Edmonton and long-time head of Alberta's Network of Women's Shelters, who just a few years ago refused to appear on a TV program discussing male victims of domestic violence, because for her to even show up and discuss it would lend legitimacy to the idea that they exist.

You're not Mary P Koss, who describes male victims of female rapists in her academic papers as being not rape victims because they were "ambivalent about their sexual desires" (if you don't know what that means, it's that they actually wanted it), and then went on to define them out of the definition of rape in the CDC's research because it's inappropriate to consider what happened to them rape.

You're not the National Organization for Women, and its associated legal foundations, who lobbied to replace the gender neutral federal Family Violence Prevention and Services Act of 1984 with the obscenely gendered Violence Against Women Act of 1994. The passing of that law cut male victims out of support services and legal assistance in more than 60 passages, just because they were male.

You're not the Florida chapter of the NOW, who successfully lobbied to have Governor Rick Scott veto not one, but two alimony reform bills in the last ten years, bills that had passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, and were supported by more than 70% of the electorate.

You're not the feminist group in Maryland who convinced every female member of the House on both sides of the aisle to walk off the floor when a shared parenting bill came up for a vote, meaning the quorum could not be met and the bill died then and there.

You're not the feminists in Canada agitating to remove sexual assault from the normal criminal courts, into quasi-criminal courts of equity where the burden of proof would be lowered, the defendant could be compelled to testify, discovery would go both ways, and defendants would not be entitled to a public defender.

You're not Professor Elizabeth Sheehy, who wrote a book advocating that women not only have the right to murder their husbands without fear of prosecution if they make a claim of abuse, but that they have the moral responsibility to murder their husbands.

You're not the feminist legal scholars and advocates who successfully changed rape laws such that a woman's history of making multiple false allegations of rape can be excluded from evidence at trial because it's "part of her sexual history."

You're not the feminists who splattered the media with the false claim that putting your penis in a passed-out woman's mouth is "not a crime" in Oklahoma, because the prosecutor was incompetent and charged the defendant under an inappropriate statute (forcible sodomy) and the higher court refused to expand the definition of that statute beyond its intended scope when there was already a perfectly good one (sexual battery) already there. You're not the idiot feminists lying to the public and potentially putting women in Oklahoma at risk by telling potential offenders there's a "legal" way to rape them.

And you're none of the hundreds or thousands of feminist scholars, writers, thinkers, researchers, teachers and philosophers who constructed and propagate the body of bunkum theories upon which all of these atrocities are based.

No...You're the true feminist. Some random person on the internet. LOL

[–]maria_ines_21_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

All I meant is that not all feminists will treat you badly for having different believes, most will ask you why, and will try to debate on that topic, will make their own arguments and listen to the other person

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Post that tweet on feminism reddit and ask for a discussion. See what happens and how quickly you are banned. If they see you have posts on here they will also ban you.

I just stated universitys and even posted videos stating what feminists do. The only mens officer in the entire United Kingdom was banned and blocked by feminists despite the uni having a womens officer, LGBT, minorities and so on

Do you want me to quote what the HEAD of the National Union of Students Women said about the idea of a mens officer?

You're living in lalal land about feminism. You might as well try and tell me not all Nazis are bad... and point to examples of the good ones who helped people



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