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This definitely holds true in our current society

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April 29, 2020
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Title This definitely holds true in our current society
Author it_could_be_me_1027
Upvotes 387
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Date 29 April 2020 05:01 AM UTC (3 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/706645
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/ga382n/this_definitely_holds_true_in_our_current_society/
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[–]itsalexcl25 points26 points  (13 children) | Copy

We talk about issues of both sides, Feminists don't. And that's just a fact.

[–]Unbentbugle-2 points-1 points  (12 children) | Copy

There’s a thing called a feminazi which is the man hating side of feminism. feminism is when they actually want equality between men and women. :/

[–]DevilComeKnockin19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Honestly, it hasn't been about equality in 30 years. I know because I was there. Once intersectionalism and "patriarchy theory" started becoming more widely discussed on campuses, the movement swiftly became purely about securing all the benefits of patriarchy (chivalry, preferential treatment in court, a "lowered bar of entry" so to speak) while off-loading [onto men] all of the sacrifices necessary to preserve those benefits. In short, it became very much about "having Her cake and eating His too".

Since then, it's just been accelerating toward what we have now.

[–]Euclidian13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said!

[–]Shuja1Ali10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

You know many feminist leaders have supported misandry

[–]Unbentbugle1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Oh.. I didn’t know that

[–]Shuja1Ali9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its cool bro, just know egalitarianism means fighting for gender equality

[–]Lickiecat5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

How can you have equality with a term like FEMinism. It is pretty clear what the main priority is.

[–]itsalexcl9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

And how many Feminists havedone something to help men?

[–]Unbentbugle3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now that I think about that..Nothing :/

[–]SpellBlue0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Search for the word "feminazi" on the dictionary, this word doesn't exist at all.

[–]itsalexcl6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

They probably forgot to change the definition of feminism.

[–]Unbentbugle3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Really?! I thought that was a actual word ,’:/

Edit:spelling

[–]Vman21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Feminazi just means radical feminist. However it's a false distinction. There is no majic line between feminism or radical feminism. It's the same ideology.

[–]StrawhatMucci10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imo avoid anyone who calls themselves a feminist. Especially men they are traitors to their own gender

[–]some1arguewithme5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nope. Repeal the 19th.

[–]mellainadiba5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yuppppp, and this coming from someone who was a staunch feminist for 4 years till I realised what a toxic hate cult it is. Most of the prominent antifeminists, and MRAs are actually ex feminists, hmm I wonder why

Check out vids by Karen Strughan, Cassie Jaye, Helen Pluckford

[–]pandolfio3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I always have the same argument with a female friend of mine.

When I say "feminists this, and that", she says she's a feminist, and doesn't.

So I tell her every single time that it doesn't matter that some feminists aren't like that, even that the majority of feminists aren't like that.

The issue is that the radical feminists are the ones that manage to get laws pass that are unfair to men, suffocating atmosphere in colleges and corporations - they're the one spreading misinformation on traditional and social media about domestic violence, 'rape culture', the gender gap.

So what is the bullet proof way to explain people who are for gender equality, that the mainstream feminism is against that? And that it is a danger that needs to be fought hard against (esp by all the women who say they're for equality, but seem completely oblivious to the harm that feminism does to men, and to society as a whole).

[–]Vman21 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Feminism is at best about equality of OUTCOMES for women in SELECTED areas of society. Often while maintaining or deepening disadvantages for men in other areas. Egalitarianism is about equal OPPORTUNITIES for ALL people in ALL areas of society. Big difference. Once you understand this you can point out hundreds examples of the hypocrisy of feminism.

[–]pandolfio0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a very good point.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli4 points5 points  (21 children) | Copy

Yep, fuck radical feminists trying to kill all men, real feminists are actually good

[–]Diogenes--0 points1 point  (20 children) | Copy

I've never seen any brand of feminist speak out against VAWA and Title IX, federal hate laws which punish innocent men.

I've never seen any feminist speak out against their own feminist hate group, nor the democrat hate party which they pressured into passing these hate laws.

If your group has passed hate laws, and you haven't left the group nor spoken out against the hate laws... you're a hateful bigot. Feminists of all brands are evil.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli3 points4 points  (19 children) | Copy

I have seen feminists on this subreddit right here saying that they don’t like the misandrist feminists one bit, and that the rad feminists are just louder, maybe you need to listen to people who are sane instead. Maybe stop nitpicking people to talk to

[–]Diogenes---5 points-4 points  (18 children) | Copy

Yet they haven't spoken out against hate laws. Which belies the truth we all know, and which only some (like you) deny - that feminism is a hate group and feminists are evil.

It really doesn't take much, tbh. Women are primed by evolution to be cold and unfeeling. To have no conscience; no "soul" as religions put it. And religions are not misogynist, they're simply correct about this.

Just add a bit of feminism to give womens' inherent evilness a lightning rod (men) and watch the nightmare unfold. As it's been doing for decades.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli2 points3 points  (15 children) | Copy

Okay first off, that was down right sexist, and secondly, cold and unfeeling? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963313/ go on and read that. Are you trying to make anti feminists look sexist? It sounds like you’re actually a woman hater, not a feminist hater.

[–]Diogenes---1 points0 points  (14 children) | Copy

"Zebras have stripes"

Does that statement mean that I hate zebras?

No, I't simply an accurate description.

I don't hate women. I don't like them, but there's no hate here. I've simply described them accurately. They evolved to be that way for reasons, likely to be able to move on quickly if the man providing for them / their children died. It's not their fault, but it bears talking about and warning other men.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, zebras obviously have stripes, and that is not one bit an insult, it’s like me saying that you have hair, but you’re comparing an obvious outward appearance to a lack of empathy in an entire gender. What if I said that you were cold, unfeeling and evil? You tubby ginger cunt. The research is all there, men have less empathy and you’re trying to say that women are worse than men right from the fact? I hate to say this but statistics are that women commit less crimes. Wake up

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli-2 points-1 points  (12 children) | Copy

You’re a cockroach trying to kill a human on his feet, it’s not going to work

[–]Diogenes---1 points0 points  (11 children) | Copy

You're a cockroach

I'm not the one supporting hate laws with my silence.

You're the cockroach. You don't like this fact about yourself, so you lie to yourself about being a good person. But that doesn't fix this fault you have, so you project it onto others.

As Marx instructs in The Communist Manifesto, you "blame your enemy for what you yourself are doing." This is classical psychological projection. Like how the viciously anti-gay preacher is almost invariably gay. He can't accept it about himself so he projects it onto gays and hates them for having the same trait he can't accept about himself.

You're a slimy, evil little cockroach. If you weren't, you would speak out against HATE LAWS IN THE YEAR 2020 ffs... but you don't. You are evil.

[–]Doc-Engineer2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

So how outspoken are you about these hate laws? Where can I find your petition, or pictures from your last march? How about a copy of a letter I can write to my Senator? "Blame your enemy for what you yourself are doing". That's a good one.

[–]Diogenes--2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm doing something. No woman on earth is, and very few men are either. Awareness is nowhere near the point of having a march. Excellent suggestion about writing a letter, thanks! I will start drafting one immediately.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Stfu you tubby, radical, conservative

[–]Diogenes--0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Lol, looks like I made baby mad! Baby want baba? Need diaper changed? Awww, how cute!

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh please, what hate laws? The government protecting us from a deadly virus? Yeah sure, hate laws. I don’t support hate laws, I barely come on this subreddit, I’m just here really for fun. If you think I’m supporting hate laws with my silence, then my mum and dad are too, they don’t read this stuff, it’s just your loud ass over here trying to convince everyone that women are evil.

And aren’t you doing exactly what that preacher is doing? You can’t accept the fact that men just have some traits that are worse than women, so you try to flip it around and call them evil

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Will you shut the fuck up? How exactly are you speaking out, huh? Screaming at people on reddit? Is that speaking out? Do you think the government would come here and find this stuff and say “oh wow, that is a really good point, I’m going to change this, I’m going to change that too”

[–]Diogenes--1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Raising consciousness of a problem is a well known and proven method of effecting change in the world. Of course it won't get through to thick-skulled demons like you. But that's OK, one need not reach everyone to make a difference.

what hate laws?

We've already discussed this. VAWA and Title IX. It's always in one ear and out the other with you people. Whether you're actually female, or every bit as dumb and girlish due to being a soy-guzzling male, you're all the same. Lack of testosterone makes a person fucking stupid.

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is that not sexist?

[–]GiveMeTheBroccoli-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

And you’re becoming what you’re fighting against, you’re generalising all women as unsympathetic demons and evils of this world.

[–]ajax51500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That is a mind we cannot change. It has been proven to be impossible.

[–]Vman20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

For once I disagree with him and I would have liked to try and change his mind. Radical feminism IS true feminism. They are one and the same. There is no definition to distinguish between radical feminism and "true" feminism. It's all feminism. Furthermore, every individual feminist believes her take on feminism is "true" feminism. In essence his premise is incorrect.

Also antifeminists and non feminists are not more "true" feminist than feminists. That is self evidently false. Antifeminists and non feminists are far more egalitarian than feminists. Which is probably what he wants to express.

He's got his terminology all mixed up.



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