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[–]TragicOptimistic1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a woman myself I would say a lot of progress has been made for women since the suffragist movements worldwide. I don't feel oppressed and for the most part I feel like society DOES cater to me in some ways more than men. I wouldn't say I'm entirely equal to males in that there are still some inequalities especially in third world countries. For the most part in my first world western nation, I am pretty happy and generally don't feel oppressed. I do like feeling protected by men though but I think that is an instinctual feeling related to my gender.
[–]vasekgamescz0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh common sense those are rare
[–]nacho-chonky0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I disagree with the last one, there can be many ways other than wealth to be privileged, wealth is a main one for sure but for example health is a privilege, many people born with MS or ALS are definitely less privileged than people born healthy, and I do believe there is a certain amount of privilege being born a race that makes up the majority of whatever country you are from, but being born a man over a women is western society is not something that gives extra privilege
[+]Blood_Priestess-11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
disagree.
biology has nothing on gender roles for it is innate; gender roles are completely man-made. I say man-made because men think their penis puts them above women.
Nonsense.
You cannot stand the fact women are rejecting gender roles because how would you know you are a man? If a man has no gender-conforming women to use and abuse, is he really a man?
Facts don't care about your feelings, dear men. A woman who is assertive, doesn't have long hair and doesn't wear high heels and useless dresses is still a woman.
This lack of identity is purely yours, dear men. You are the ones suffering from it. Go to a therapist.
No woman owes you anything. Sorry not sorry.
[–]Yodas-Fart-Chamber[S] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Men and women naturally gravitate towards certain fields, sorry, gender roles are biological for the most part.
Most women do the same gender roles, it's not my fault.
I never claimed a women who is assertive, short hair and doesn't wear high heels and dresses was not a woman, not sure were you pulled that out of.
No one mentioned personality and no one mentioned that women owe men anything. You clearly have a lot of issues, seek help.
[+]Blood_Priestess-6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
you are talking about gender roles and you don't even know what it means.
[–]Yodas-Fart-Chamber[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I do
[–]the-mega-sad1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Literally everyone here knows about gender roles but you. You are clearly ignoring the fact that men and women are biologically built differently, and therefore, one gender can not do one thing as well as another. Males are generally physically superior, while females are generally mentally superior.
But you, my friend, are the lowest of the low. Your stupidity has blinded you from reality and it is time for you wake up from you illusion of perfection.
[–]Blood_Priestess-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
no, men think just because they have a penis and physical strength ( which are obsolete in our modern world) that puts them in charge of everything.
gender roles were made up by men so they could subjugate women. i refuse to play by those rules and so do many, many women. take that.
[–]the-mega-sad1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wow. That is the most sexist, stereotypical statement I have ever heard.
Perhaps you should read a book, learn how the real world works. I have said all that needs to be said and if you refuse to listen, that is your choice, you will just stay blinded by your twisted view of reality.
[–]Blood_Priestess-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
honey, i did read books, i speak to women on daily basis and i dont give a damn about man-made gender roles.
neither should you, tbh.
it's your choice after all, but mind you, women are abandoning gender roles all over the world ( see south korean women on marriage) while you men are....still stuck.
what's gonna happen to you men when there is no woman to your liking?
[–]the-mega-sad0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ah, classic feminist move. Only looking at the female side of things, and not only ignoring the male side of things, you make up false propaganda that gender roles were man-made(which they are not, they are mostly biological).
It’s so funny to see feminists like you being so trapped by your own twisted view of reality, that you become what you swore to destroy, sexists.
You are why feminism is a joke, honey.
[–]Blood_Priestess-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
that's the point; i could care less about the male side of things. no real feminist does.
we'll see who's gonna have the last laugh, sweetie.
[–]the-mega-sad1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re only proving the entire sub’s point that feminists are just a bunch of sexists. and it would appear that “real” feminists don’t exist anymore.
The people with a just view on reality will have the last laugh,
Sweetie XD
You are the type of guy who calls architecture doodling.
[–]bufedad1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Gender roles came about entirely because women stayed pregnant.
Before birth control women spent nearly their entire adult life pregnant or nursing.
This was the basis of women's gender role.
Birth Control was introduced in 1960. Women entered the workforce in large numbers by 1965.
5 years is all it took for women to eschew their gender roles once biology was taken out of the equation
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You didn't have to get pregnant even without birth control. Women could have remained single, or practiced safe sex (pull out game) or used condoms. So I don't think your entire statement is true as woman's purpose is not entirely relegated to baby making or sex objects. I feel as though a woman's purpose is also related to companionship and committment. Male and female are companions to each other. I'm a Christian okay, Christianity teaches us that women are a helper to men, which implies women are more than baby making machines. We provide help, and companionship and for most of us I would hope, love.
[–]bufedad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You didn't have to get pregnant even without birth control.
We've already determined that abstinence birth control doesn't work. And that's WITH sex education.
If it doesn't work WITH sex education, it sure doesn't work WITHOUT it.
So I don't think your entire statement is true as woman's purpose is not entirely relegated to baby making or sex objects.
Purpose? The word purpose is irrelevant when you're always pregnant or nursing.
I feel as though a woman's purpose is also related to companionship and committment.
That's irrelevant to the discussion.
Women's gender role is based on the biological fact that adult women spent their entire adult life (nearly... for some entirely) pregnant or nursing.
Half their children would die before reaching adulthood, regardless of what they did.
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Pulling out during sex is not abstinence my dude
[–]bufedad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Please don't tell me you think that's birth control?
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It is a method. If ejaculation does not enter the woman's uterus, babies don't happen. Therefore by definition it's birth control. It's not 100% effective. But conceptually it's birth control in a sense.
[–]bufedad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Lol... sex ed would do you a world of good
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You're not making a very good argument to prove me wrong. Also I did take sex Ed thanks.
[–]bufedad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you lack basic sex education, then chances are you won't be convinced by anything I post...lol
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Secondly a woman's biological clock stops ticking at about 40 at the latest. Women start to experience menopause symtpoms and though you're right if you didn't have a lot of kids in those times yours may not survive but they also don't stay children forever and a woman's ability (biologically) to nurse only lasts so long. But there were definitely means of contraceptive before birth control. And some have proven to be effective but may not have been as widely known due to the lack of internet and sex education. Archeologists found condoms dating back from like 110 BC that I've read about. Secondly have you ever heard of "Natural Family Planning?" Google that shit. Women are actual infertile temporarily for various parts of their menstrual cycle and if they learn how to track it they can prevent pregnancy via natural means. I am in no way stating abstinence works but there are methods that do work that are not abstinence related such as the aforementioned methods I described. Source: I'm a woman and not a virgin.
Moreso women became pregnant because it was what was expected of them by society. I don't think the invention of birth control necessarily changed morals that much. The 60s broke a lot of things my promoting lose culture but I don't think the invention of birth control in pill form in the 1960s was the catalyst for women violating their "gender roles" I think it was a myriad of things.
[–]bufedad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Secondly a woman's biological clock stops ticking at about 40 at the latest.
In 1900 the average life expectancy of a woman was 48 years.
Berkley.edu
That's around 8 to 10 years when you weren't having kids anymore.
But then you are completely overlooking how frail women's bodies were after having that many kids.
Being pregnant leeches nutrients from the mothers body. Today we have ample access to food and prenatal vitamins to counteract that. That's only a recent human development. After 13 kids, most women were very very frail, with fragile bones, and weakened muscles.
Women's lives were not like they were today.
[–]EE_Master1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are only TWO genders, the rest is your fâîrÿtäłé
[–]TragicOptimistic0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am a female who doesn't wear heels or dresses often. I am just me and I don't really put it on a basis of gender roles. If I feel like wearing a dress I wear it. If I don't I don't. The progress that was made for me gives me the freedom to choose whether or not I want to wear a dress and heels. Which is awesome. But we don't need to fight for something we already have the right to do. I'm pretty sure my boyfriend thinks I look cute in a dress and heels or my jeans and t shirt, it makes no difference to most men how we dress and act and what we wear. I'm pretty sure they would find us cute no matter what. And it sure doesn't matter how other women see me. I could not give two fucks how other women perceive my "gender role" I'm just going to keep on keeping on and being me.
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You’re doing exactly what the image said not to do.
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