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"Men killing themselves doesn't mean they are unhappier than women"

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Title "Men killing themselves doesn't mean they are unhappier than women"
Author Morenas0
Upvotes 178
Comments 31
Date 26 March 2020 01:41 PM UTC (8 months ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/706932
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/fpboij/men_killing_themselves_doesnt_mean_they_are/
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[–]Gribbo6951 points52 points  (3 children) | Copy

We're just more efficient at it. If a guy wants to kill himself he's gonna do it properly. Maybe a lot of women do it as "a cry for help". 😷

[–]1444636831 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

Also, men are expected to show strength, and so "reporting" suicidality is likely lower, while clearly effective suicidality is higher.

[–]Roses182018 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly lol. What do they not get about that? I’ve seen this argument before somewhere and it’s just like.. wow. When a guy wants to kill himself, he usually does it. I notice that girls more often seek a reason not to. It kind of disgusts me when people even make things like this a competition. Oh!! look!! women are more suicidal!! Or when they say “Women are more likely to get raped” when it’s in response to something that implies all men are rapists or some shit. Like, ok but who fucking asked..? All victims of these things should be taken into account and acknowledged no matter what the ‘slightly’ higher majority is. Instead of bringing eachother together these types of people drag everyone down and honestly treat men like shit. I’m a woman btw but I see it and the way the people in the feminism community act is ridiculous.🙄

[–]RussianAnnaB5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can tell you about 7 girls I went to school with claim suicidal and yet none died. Not to mention the all “I cut myself” yet somehow no scars and if there are it’s from picking minor cuts. But I know 2 boys that killed themselves. Up for effectiveness. Across for attention. Guess who had all across.

[–]____stupid_meme____24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy

The reason they REPORT it and use "less efficient methods" is bc they seek atention and its easier to be a woman,if it was a man reporting it people would say man up or some other bs like that,but the society has empathy only for women. Sori if bad englis

[–]Avidion1811 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

10/10 for logic

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dont even get where they get these stats. I understand where you get suicide rates. But how do you get suicide attempts. Theres no way to truthfully track this.

People could just claim suicide attempts for attention.

[–]LegendaryFlamed8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

And out of experience "I had depression and I was suicidal" is at least as often used as "I was raped" without thinking about it. Some women use it to underline their statements saying "Oh, but I'm proof". So, yeah. I know a lot girls you act suicidal and stuff just for attention, which is truly sad.

[–]jack938853 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

A performative suicidal attitude isn't uncommon, what is unfortunate is when the right people don't pick up on it and it goes too far before they can get help

[–]PaladinGamer5635 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm a guy that prefer poison. And many spies, rebels, and soldiers use poison when they get caught as well.

[–]minhtri191 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have no idea how she think poison is less effective. Like just a small dose of cyanide is enough to send you to Gods already, work almost everytime.

[–]killingtimeitself2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

depends on what you consider small. you need to consume a relatively large amount cyanide before your body can't remove it faster then it can affect you.

[–]Canadasosig4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Uh oh clown alert

[–]keelen02053 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Simp

[–]SavvyVolley67 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

They don’t commit because: (a) living as a female has a societal safety net (b) their problems are never that bad; it’s usually just their egos hurting more than anything. “WAHHH MY DAD WON’T LET ME DRESS LIKE A SLUT!!! I’M GOING TO TAKE A BOTTLE OF VITAMIN C!!!” (c) they just want attention because that’s the essence of their existences.

Living as a male has no safety net. Everyone (women) expects the most from us, our problems are real and no one cares. Dudes are killing themselves in droves and women are still blaming masculinity because they could never fathom that maybe most of them are terrible mothers, terrible partners, and terrible teachers, all that put young men through a gauntlet for the first 18-odd years of their lives and blame them for it.

[–]JZSquared2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The gold medal for mental gymnastics goes to...

[–]CrustyCumBollocks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Another thing men are better at LOL.

[–]bluesteelballs2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

What I'm hearing is "Wamen don't have enough guns"

[–]Lickiecat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Difference. Women aren't really trying to kill themselves, only trying to make people think they are. Adding to their manipulative nature.

Not in all cases of course, and not to say men don't also do this. Suicide is nothing to be taken lightly, so these kind of generalizations can be somewhat dangerous.

[–]laptopdragon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

we could also argue that men are more competent at completing a job and women are more likely to screw up everything, then cry about it and blame someone else at the same time.

[–]LULgetcanceranddie2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Two things here that they of course miss.

  1. The methods used by men are typically those that are extremely likely to work (gunshot, noose, jumping from a very high distance)
  2. The methods typically used by women are those with very low chances of working, such as cutting and pills.

For the second point I raise, I think that women typically "attempt" as a cry for help, rather than an actual attempt for suicide.

[–]qemist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women are much less likely to attempt suicide by means that are certain to be fatal. Some doubt their sincerity.

[–]seanisgeynt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

men commit suicide more

women report more

Of course they do, they have a support network, people give a shit if they attempt. Guys aren't allowed to speak up about this kind of thing in society. I get told off for telling my experiences because it "devalues theirs" whenever there is a conversation about it. They litteraly tell me off for "one-upmanship" because im a guy therefore I can't have it as bad

[–]144463684 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

How about this:

I think it's dreadfully sad for a person to be so unhappy they want to end it all.

Can we just stop the composition fallacy for once, please? Does everything need to be a competition? Or can we just say "people committing suicide is bad. Let's figure out ways to help these people out."

To say "well, Group X really isn't unhappier than Group Y, because reasons" is incredibly unfeeling.

[–]RockmanXX5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Does everything need to be a competition?

For Feminists, life is an oppression Olympics. Can't let men be victims OF ANYTHING, they are always the perps and anything that shows men being victimized is an exception to the rule which can be safely denied because muh patriarchy.

people committing suicide is bad. Let's figure out ways to help these people out

And eventually that would lead to uncomfortable statistics like men being the biggest victims of it and we can't have that.

[–]nightreaper__1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Please don't tell me this is r/feminism again

[–]Morenas0[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nah it's r/FraggileWhiteRedditor which is worse

[–]nightreaper__0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But what about r/FragileBlackRedditors

[–]Philletto1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Women actually report higher rates of suicide attempts"

Because its not suicide, its drama

[–]CactusCatYT-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Link?

[–]Jonslatt-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why are you hating on this? It doesn't seem like the poster is pushing their agenda and they even say "doesn't necessarily mean", meaning the don't rule out the possibility that men are unhappier. Weird post to be upset about



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