The saddest thing about feminism.

It’s not the man-hating “all men are rapist/murders/stupid” or that they must have everything handed to them because they are women narrative (although they are up there). It’s the fact that they are gaslighting each other.

Think about it, one minute they say it’s all about giving women the confidence to tackle any issue in life (which I see nothing wrong with as long as they don’t make men look stupid to do it which leads back to the first point. Also, “the future is female” should have been a massive red flag that feminism is no longer for equality if it ever was). The next minute, they undercut it to say that they will never succeed because they will be raped/murdered/oppressed by a man anyway by misinterpreting (intentionally or not) statistics to confirm their sexist bias or by feelings alone. That’s honestly fucked up.

I could be interpreting this wrong so feel free to correct me but it seems like all these poor women who are are a part of the feminist movement fail to realize that they are being emotionally abused by the very movement that claims to be protecting them from abuse.

[–]AndyClausen0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a tough one. I somewhat agree, but on the other hand... It's fucking tough to be a woman most places in the world. And even in the western world, we have some old male bosses who think it's okay to harass women employees and give all their male friends bonuses for the same work because they also think their wife is nagging them. This is why metoo happened, although it started with actresses having to do sexual favours to get roles in movies, it spread out to general workplace harassment.

Here's where you start having a point though. Suddenly, it's about every time someone has touched your butt or whistled at you in the street. And it's a girls-only club, so if men come out they get bashed.

There are many cases where it starts out as a good idea, but idiots take over and ruin it. Remember here that it's not always a majority though.

Also, I can to some extend understand how some women can think all men are pigs. Just like I can understand how some men can think all women are sluts. They're wrong, and I strongly disagree, but it's not 100% without reason.

And as mentioned before, let's try to keep this on neither misogyny nor misandry, but equality.

[–]username2136[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I completely get what you are saying and I agree too. Although, these old bosses make up an extreme minority because in the westernized countries, it is illegal to do that in the first place and that is why the reason for the wage gap has little to nothing to do with discrimination.

I thought metoo was a great idea on paper. It is an opportunity for people (women at least any man who speaks up about HIS experiences would have happen to them what women claim men has always done to them) to tell their story about being sexually assaulted. Of course, people lied about it all the time and only led to more false accusations (how much more I’m not sure. The stats I can come up with were made before metoo became a thing) and more people becoming aware of it and what it can do to those who are victims of these false accusations.

I understand that these people aren’t the majority of feminists but the problem is, feminism was never designed for the non-radicals. Even since Seneca Falls, they have always believed that men are the universal oppressors and women were the universal victims (aka patriarchy) despite it already being illegal to do so even back then. So is it any wonder why so many of them are so hostile to the plight of MRAs? They have project that they are doing back to them what they were hoping to accomplish with men in order to legitimize their movement.

This leads to my biggest problem with feminism. We are at a point where society and our government has done all they can to protect them without infringing on the rights of others. They made things like paying women less than men illegal, rape was always illegal and society made it taboo and so on. Yet, these psychos are not satisfied. They MUST have the ability to infringe on men’s lives anyway they can, possibly due to the fear mongering I mentioned that all men are out to get them so they believe that it is necessary. They want to get rid of the presumption of innocence for rape trials, for example, because they let their fear and disgust of rape justify punishing more innocent people if it meant fewer rapists get away due to there not being enough evidence to convict them. I think India has already done this and the false accusation rate skyrocketed to 93%, I could be wrong though so feel free to correct me.

This is where the true plight of the MRAs come in. They see that there is no law against: filing a divorce for no reason (that might be something anyone can do not just women now that I think about it), female perpetrated domestic violence due to the Duluth model always assuming the man is abusing her, female perpetrated rape because “made to penetrate” isn’t a part of the definition so it is very difficult to convict a female rapist, a woman can make a false rape accusation with little to no risk to herself while the accused becomes a pariah for the rest of his life and so on and we are close to throwing the removal of the presumption of innocence onto that pile.

I can empathize with them believing that all men are rapists and whatnot to an extent because I used to think that all women were narcissists who use their boyfriends and their own children as punching bags. I saw it everyday with my mother with me on the receiving end of her rage whenever something I do goes against her plans and my friends with nearly all of their relationships were with horrible women who eat power trips for breakfast and would gladly beat the shit out of them in public if they felt like it. But I was a child when I believed that and now believing that is just intellectually dishonest because I have female friends who would never dream of doing that to anyone. I still get incredibly nervous around women even if I am not attracted to them and I fucking hate it, if I could stop it I would have done it years ago because it is borderline irrational at this point.

These feminists KNOW it isn’t actually ALL men who sexually assault women (in America, it’s not even 0.5% of men and that is the worst case scenario including the estimated percentage of rapes that go unreported according to the FBI and the BJS, for man on woman murder it is much much less) but they keep saying it anyway because they don’t want their brainwashed slaves to realize they are being gaslighted.

Title	The saddest thing about feminism.
Author	username2136
Upvotes	8
Comments	2
Date	December 15, 2019 3:46 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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