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Sooooo...do you want to be objectified or not?

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September 19, 2019
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Title Sooooo...do you want to be objectified or not?
Author fen90der
Upvotes 138
Comments 20
Date 19 September 2019 08:35 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/707703
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/d6b5br/sooooodo_you_want_to_be_objectified_or_not/
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[–]joker3818 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

[My thinking is wrong.] But the worst part about the partriarchy is that [my thinking is wrong].

[–]MatSapientia16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s simple. Feminism goes against nature. Accept nature and you’ll be happy.

[–]vviviann14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did she have a spasm mid writing that

[–]my_name_jeff237 points38 points  (0 children) | Copy

She wants a good looking man to objectify her. If it's an ugly, short, fat balding man then it's rape

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

This is a bit ridiculous. You can't be critical of sexual objectification of women if you are a woman and admit that you WANT to be blatantly judged for how sexually attractive you are.

I've been cat-called once. It wasn't anything to go home and cry about. I also didn't blush and thank them (like some people go as far to say that women should be thankful for it). I'd have rather it hadn't happened, but also not some huge trauma. It was mildly embarrassing, sort of weird, and almost funny, because the guy called me a 'sexy librarian.' So I felt like I got objectified and called a nerd all at once :/

But yeah, just the one time, and I used to live in a major city. I don't think it really happens all that much, and when it doesn't nobody needs to be crying about it because they "have no worth" and all this other silly feminist hand-wringing.

Like, tf? Nobody cat-called you and it's STILL the patriarchy's fault? :(

[–]OBeliskPhantasm0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I feel like, and I'm probably wrong, but isn't some one cat calling you just some one saying you're attractive? I feel like most of the people that are doing cat calls don't know how to act in social situations, OR they just don't give a shit. This isn't me advocating cat calling... but like I guess it kind of makes sense, in the terms that dudes are going to tell people they are attractive, and if it's stupid, they make themselves look stupid? I dunno.

[–]gemauve0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There is something about guys who catcall when surrounded by their male peers (such as construction workers on lunch break). It depends on the culture. It's as if they show off their boldness to each other by teasing women on the streets, some macho thing. (I'm from Brazil and used to be so common there). Idk but it's interesting to observe.

[–]OBeliskPhantasm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Humans are interesting in general in how we act and communicate. One of the funniest yest monkiest things I ever saw was a woman who was telling another woman about how she burned her hand She acted out burning her hand and then said "yeah, ouch!". We're strange things.

[–]Nightblare5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine believing that men don't go through the same kind of shit involving thier own looks, job, etc... this whole "I'm the only one with problems in this world" attitude is a huge display of ones closed and biased mind.

[–]Nybaz5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, she's ugly

[–]GatemouthBrown1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So is it also the patriarchy’s fault that men want to be desirable just the same as she does? Or maybe, and I know this is crazy, but maybe almost all creatures that reproduce sexually are part of a selection process. Let’s make up a term and call it “natural selection”! I think that I might be onto something here! That would explain the brightly colored birds and fishes and the ram males and walrus males battling for dominance and stuff!

Wow! It’s almost as if over 100,000 years of human beings were born into a species that reproduces sexually and were therefore already sexual beings making it no more possible to “sexualize” them than it is to “featherize” a bird or scale-ize a lizard.

Call me crazy.

[–]StrawhatMucci1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Whats worse than the post is the bunch of fucktard feminists commenting on it. Seriously read the shitshow about the fat goth lol

[–]baronmad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Noo its not strange at all, evolution makes us into very offspring seeking people and part of that process is to find a mate that finds you attractive so he or she wants to produce offspring with you.

[–]daniel133240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dumb feminists now get offended when you don’t whistle at them. Lmao gottem.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel insecure, therefore the patriarchy is evil.

[–]ShadowWitcher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That post needs to be saved. Fucking golden. Their basically admitting that they want to be catcalled and that they are measuring their worth by how a man sees them.

Either that or they are admitting that catcalling is just making a compliment and not some kind of sexual harassment. (Sometimes it's just a compliment, sometimes it's actually sexual harassment)

[–]katsnackshackysacks-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

It doesn’t matter who is objectifying you or why. The point of this is that whether you are ugly or pretty, people will be quick to taunt you for your appearance. Objectifying is inescapable and hardly about sexuality at all.

It’s also describing a pretty engrained thought process when you realize you’ve been conditioned to want to be desireable, even if it’s not what you want at all, in your logical mind.

[–]gemauve0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

C'mon, this is a tumblr hot take on a very complex subject. "When you realize you've been conditioned to want to be desirable"? ffs. Think young adults in the prime of their lives, feeding on process junk foods, trying to find out who they are, not taking care of themselves properly because of an insidious thought process that goes like this: "any standards by which attractive people measure themselves must be a patriachical conspiracy". It's covert form of manipulation, just like what you think "the patriachy" does. In real life it does nothing to address low self-esteem. Also a way to rationalize secretly wishing to be "worthy" of catcalls.

[–]katsnackshackysacks1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don't disagree with you in that people often have low self-esteem because they don't take care of themselves or lack control of their lives... However, there are certainly more interesting, more important attributes for people to attain than being attractive or sexy. I think people need to get past the whole narrative that we are programmed the same as cave-people. We are animals, sure, and sexuality is generally a part of life, but no one should be told that it's central to our existence. When people start valuing their attractiveness over their health, achievements, and character, then there's a problem. Or several problems.

As someone who receives catcalls, I promise you they are n e v e r appreciated. Not by the creepy old bald guy, nor by the tall guy with the admittedly nice hair and the snatched jawline. It's uncomfortable and stressful. I feel sorry for anyone who wishes to be "worthy."

[–]gemauve0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree with you about valuing other traits over attractiveness. An attractive person is not made of just a nice body. Here I'm talking about receiving compliments on your appearance by strangers, not aggressive or demeaning comments. (Some guys say horrible shit back at you when you respond negatively to their calls, that is absolutely stressful no doubt). I would just keep walking and choose not to feel offended, otherwise that's giving up my control over my emotions to some random douche I'm never gonna see again. But It would be hypocritical of me to say I have n e v e r appreciated a catcall of the nice compliment type. That says nothing about my worth as a human though. Each person should be responsible for determining their own worth if that makes sense. It's how you treat yourself and others, your moral values, your sense of right and wrong, you set the bar for how you wish to be treated. So overvaluing appearance is a problem, especially if you don't fit the standards of your culture, BUT also for conventionally attractive people who feel that's all they have to offer to the world. It's hard but I believe you if you say you never got a little ego boost by a catcall.



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