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I know i shouldn't give any more attention to r/thefairersex, but it looks like our subreddit is toxic masculinity subreddit

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August 31, 2019
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Title I know i shouldn't give any more attention to r/thefairersex, but it looks like our subreddit is toxic masculinity subreddit
Author Dogedoomofinternet
Upvotes 132
Comments 18
Date 31 August 2019 04:02 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/707748
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/cxx5xy/i_know_i_shouldnt_give_any_more_attention_to/
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[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (2 children) | Copy

Women don't get to define masculinity. End of discussion.

[–]Philletto14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy

THIS.

See the bad decisions that happen in society when 50% are silenced and women decide for us.

[–]User-31f64a4e1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

And certainly not to straw-man masculinity.

See what I did there?

[–]KoolAid71212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

you know when it’s gone too far when I, a female, am being accused of being toxically masculine. how about we just let everyone do what they need to do? it’s not that hard.

[–]Super-Chick40 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

So they don’t hate men? Yeah that’s the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard.

Besides what about the women on this sub. There are women on this sub.

[–]REEEEEE13377 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh cool, finally some outside attention to that shithole.

That sub and r/femaledatingstrategy are really weird, the people that post there definitely aren’t normal people, they’re alts/bots or something like that

[–]Redhood61618 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

And of course they didn’t mention toxic feminity which (according to their logic) would also harm humanity.

[–]The_Invader_Kilz7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

I always laugh when feminists say that we have a rape culture in the west. A culture is a societal behaviour or shared custom. I don't know anyone who is OK with rape, so to say that we have a culture of rape in the west is a joke. Go to India or south east Asia, where they actually have something that resembles rape culture and then tell me that western men condone women being brutalised.

[–]subhchatu2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

We don't have a rape culture

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Non of these are true... like, I literally advise men to get help all the damn time, and I've never seen anyone bash nonconformity. There is the odd hyper conservative dude on here, but the attitude generally seems to be live and let live. As for encouraging violence... when and where? I've never seen incitement to violence here or on mgtow... I don't like trp so idk what it's like over there, but I imagine it's the same. Also like... these subs exist to encouragement emotional and social fulfillment? Like, that's the sole point, to get men out of the servant mindset and taking care of themselves and loving one another?

All this from the thefairersex which... jeeze, you don't have to scroll far before you start seeing unironic posts about needing another plague, or mass aborting boys, or not having sympathy for male victims/standing up for abusive women. If toxic masculinity is a thing, and we are gonna use that highly gendered and offensive term, the primary perpetrators are demonstrably feminists. Dudes together do tend to take care of each other and encourage self help... least as far as I've seen.

[–]damienkingston1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So they don't want men to make rights on their body, But they are okay what defining with masculinity is?

[–]damienkingston1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If a person has a vagina then you not qualified to tell me what masculinity is and isn't. Period.

[–]damienkingston1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My masculinity, My choice!

[–]RXelaH19841 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try writing about toxic femininity, and how the majority of women in relationships one-sidedly abuse their partners, harass, and assault individuals without much repercussions, morally and legally.

[–]Smooth_Imagination4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

there is toxic feminity and toxic feminism.

Both genders have tendencies that are equally toxic if not balanced.

Toxic 'masculinity' is only the potential extreme outcome of the expression of traits that are otherwise healthy and beneficial.

For example, 'toxic masculinity' stops people becoming narcissists (delusional over confidence, since men will tear down the bullshit and unproven), it promotes team spirit, it promotes within team spirit, stoicism and serving the greater good above yourself, it promotes some competition, but in ways that usually benefit the group and lead to skills that are truly exceptional.

Feminism cannot say this.

[–]markrod4200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"They dont hate men"

That might be true, technically i dont know that penis envy counts as hate.

[–]User-31f64a4e0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

discourages ... seeking mental health help

As if psychologists are an unconditional positive influence? Look up "recovered memory syndrome", where thousands of shrinks convinced people who had not been abused as children that they were.

discourages emotional connection or fulfillment

Incorrect. Men are not women, so we connect differently. This "criticism" essentially boils down to, men do not act like women and do not prefer the same ways of being. So what?

teaches men that nonconformity reduces value

It is women, not men, who are conformist. Men don't go to the bathroom in groups, follow trends, obsess about what other people find popular, follow fads, etc.

Rape culture

Does not exist.

misogyny

Much less common than misandry, and almost always false when alleged.

violence against women

Funny how nobody gives a fuck about (much more common) violence against men, even when done by women. Are they too masculine? If so, back to the housewife role, ladies!

harmful gender roles

Nonsense assertion. You ladies wanna join the Army as 11B straight-leg infantry, even though you don't have the strength for it? You, what, want men to stay at home with the kids even though we are less temperamentally suited for it? All this blather about "sex roles" is just nonsense from women who are jealous of men.

[–]KevinAndWinnie4Eva0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

r/Motow lost its way a bit it seems. it was pkay at first but now its just seemingly bitter and lonely men bashing all women relentlessly no matter what



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