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Smh, feminists attacking another women for not being a feminist

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September 14, 2018
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Title Smh, feminists attacking another women for not being a feminist
Author aethetic
Upvotes 33
Comments 24
Date 14 September 2018 05:03 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit antifeminists
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/708827
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/9ftrp8/smh_feminists_attacking_another_women_for_not/
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[–]MirrorkatFeces14 points15 points  (29 children) | Copy

Feminists are crazy and can be downright awful, never met a good one

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (28 children) | Copy

Feminists are crazy and can be downright awful, never met a good one

Men are crazy and can be downright awful, never met a good one

[–]MirrorkatFeces5 points6 points  (27 children) | Copy

Found one in the wild

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (26 children) | Copy

You stereotyped, so why can’t I?

[–]Wordshark6 points7 points  (25 children) | Copy

You’re conflating feminists with women. Stereotyping a sociopolitical faction is different than stereotyping a gender.

Also his anecdote is a lot more believable than yours

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (24 children) | Copy

Don’t give me that crap. Stereotyping is stereotyping.

[–]MirrorkatFeces3 points4 points  (23 children) | Copy

Steroetypes exists for a reason, you do a good job of proving that

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (22 children) | Copy

Men talk about everything and everyone else, but when the tables are turned, y’all cry foul.

[–]MirrorkatFeces1 point2 points  (21 children) | Copy

*Everyone FTFY

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (20 children) | Copy

I’m not talking about “everyone”, I’m talking about men.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy

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[–]Boomtown19996 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

God I hate echochambers

[–]CucumberMonkee5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

Lol, she took the first sentence then disregarded everything else said. Children do that when someone's right and they dont want to listen.

Also equating anti-feminist with wanting male domination isn't logical. It's like if I said I'm pro abortion (which I'm not but it's an example) and someone said that I must want all babies dead bc of my abortion views. That skips several steps and goes to the extreme. Another example would be how anyone who's Republican must be a nazi who approves of everything Trump does. It may not be true but it sure does paint the other side as evil.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

Also equating anti-feminist with wanting male domination isn't logical. I

But....that’s what that is.

[–]Wordshark1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Lol no

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

So you’re anti equal rights for men and women, but you’re not pro male domination?

[–]Wordshark1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

I’m not anti-equal rights. Very firmly pro-, in fact. I just don’t think I live in a patriarchy.

I reject feminism, both as a sociopolitical faction, and as an academic lens (I think “feminist critique” is largely dishonest, manipulative, and harmful). I believe the feminist historical narrative is misleading, at times to the point of slander.

In short, the feminist movement holds no monopoly on the concept of gender equality. I don’t disagree with their stated goal, but with their view of the world.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

I just don’t think I live in a patriarchy.

“Patriarchy is a social system in which males hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege and control of property. Some patriarchal societies are also patrilineal, meaning that property and title are inherited by the male lineage.“

You can say with a straight face that we don’t live in a male dominated world? So you’d go up to a man and say “this is not a man’s world, we are all equal”? Yea I dare you to go to the Middle East and see how they treat you.

I reject feminism, both as a sociopolitical faction, and as an academic lens (I think “feminist critique” is largely dishonest, manipulative, and harmful). I believe the feminist historical narrative is misleading, at times to the point of slander.

Because of a few.

but with their view of the world.

Feminists are not a monopoly. They come in all shapes and sizes. So you’re judging all feminists because of a few.

[–]CucumberMonkee1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

  1. We don't live in a patriarchal society. If you live in the US like I do, the citizens shape politics. Women and elderly make up the majority of voters so women actually hold the most sway over politics. The next part of the definition, I would really like you to expand upon. How do men hold moral authority over women? I'm a little confused with that one. Also how do men have more social priviledge? Women are twice as likely to get a STEM job over a man, they serve lesser prison sentences on average, and they tend to do better in school by a sizable margin.

  2. She didn't say anything about a male dominated world. She said she doesn't live in a male dominated society. There's a difference because nobody's saying that middle eastern women don't live in a horrible situation. So your argument about middle eastern women being mistreated doesn't have anything to do with the convo. I think we can all agree that they aren't treated right and nobody said otherwise. She said she doesn't live in a male dominated society and you were like yeah but look at these women and who do.

  3. You can claim that the actions of a few poison peoples minds against feminism but the reality is that when major leaders of the movement are the ones who turn people away, there's a major problem with the movement. Examples would be NY times writer Valenti claiming that driving Sec. Nielson out of her private dinner was completely okay because it was for a just cause. Another would be that women who are anti abortion are no longer welcome at the Women's March. Those women are apparently no longer women because of their beliefs. Feminism isn't as welcoming as I think you believe it is, also, the term anti-feminist does not equal wanting male domination. It is a specific term meaning anti-feminist movement

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

We don't live in a patriarchal society.

If you live in the US like I do,

....

Women and elderly make up the majority of voters so women actually hold the most sway over politics.

The majority of people in positions of power are men. Our laws are passed by men.

The next part of the definition, I would really like you to expand upon.

How do men hold moral authority over women?

It’s very obvious you’re just taking the definition extremely literal. Just because you don’t see it, never experienced it and/or you find holes in the definition, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Also how do men have more social priviledge? Women are twice as likely to get a STEM job over a man, they serve lesser prison sentences on average, and they tend to do better in school by a sizable margin.

You sound like white people who complain about affirmative action and free housing for minorities which somehow equals to “there’s no racism/discrimination”.

they serve lesser prison sentences on

Because us women are less likely to re-offend.

She didn't say anything about a male dominated world.

Of course she didn’t because she knows damn well women in other countries have it far worse than us ungrateful western women.

She said she doesn't live in a male dominated society. There's a difference because nobody's saying that middle eastern women don't live in a horrible situation. So your argument about middle eastern women being mistreated doesn't have anything to do with the convo. I think we can all agree that they aren't treated right and nobody said otherwise. She said she doesn't live in a male dominated society and you were like yeah but look at these women and who do.

Because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

You can claim that the actions of a few poison peoples minds against feminism but the reality is that when major leaders of the movement are the ones who turn people away, there's a major problem with the movement.

Just like with every movement you have your bad apples. The extremes. And since I can think for myself, I know that feminism, as a movement, is just fine.

Examples would be NY times writer Valenti claiming that driving Sec. Nielson out of her private dinner was completely okay because it was for a just cause. Another would be that women who are anti abortion are no longer welcome at the Women's March. Those women are apparently no longer women because of their beliefs. Feminism isn't as welcoming as I think you believe it is, also, the term anti-feminist does not equal wanting male domination. It is a specific term meaning anti-feminist movement

Wow! One feminist! I wish I could judge all white men because of our dear “grab them by the pussy”, not racist at all, president.

[–]CucumberMonkee1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hahaha! I stopped reading after "you're taking the definition extremely literal." Apparently you dont know how definitions work but you're meant to take them literally. Also that's the definition YOU provided so idk why you're upset about me using it against you. I would also like to state that the definition YOU gave says "and" not "or," meaning that if it doesn't meet /all/ the criteria then the word doesn't apply.

You had my respect for coming to an obviously biased reddit to share your opinion but that one sentence destroyed any respect. If you dont know how words work maybe you should educate yourself. I wont be responding again, I tend to stay away from conversations where ppl dont give actual proof and instead yell that everyone else is wrong for not following their extremely illogical opinion. If you ever decide that you want an adult convo, feel free to reach out. I like logical debate. Until then, bye.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

OK.

[–]GreenInferno861 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'd bet it's r/feminism



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